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Resupply ships won't supply an answer. - 6/7/2014 6:13:27 AM

Hannable

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Up until now, I've not been able to get this far into the game ... either I did something wrong, a new patch came out, or a bug/crash would keep me from advancing.

Now here I am with resupply ships and not a clue on how to use them. I'm assuming that they act like underway replenishment ships that gas up the warships without having to send the fleet back to base. Trouble is - I can't figure out how to fill up the cargo bays of the resupply ships. I sent one to a hydrogen cloud thinking there would be some kind of order to give it, but there isn't one, and refueling only puts fuel into the ship's own tanks and not into the cargo bay (and the resupply ship wants to go take fuel from a station or base instead of the cloud itself, and I'm pretty sure they can draw directly from a cloud).

Any helpful answers as to how to use these things would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: Resupply ships won't supply an answer. - 6/7/2014 6:56:22 AM

ehsumrell1

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hannable

Up until now, I've not been able to get this far into the game ... either I did something wrong, a new patch came out, or a bug/crash would keep me from advancing.

Now here I am with resupply ships and not a clue on how to use them. I'm assuming that they act like underway replenishment ships that gas up the warships without having to send the fleet back to base. Trouble is - I can't figure out how to fill up the cargo bays of the resupply ships. I sent one to a hydrogen cloud thinking there would be some kind of order to give it, but there isn't one, and refueling only puts fuel into the ship's own tanks and not into the cargo bay (and the resupply ship wants to go take fuel from a station or base instead of the cloud itself, and I'm pretty sure they can draw directly from a cloud).

Any helpful answers as to how to use these things would be greatly appreciated.

Hello Hannable;
When you send a resupplyship to a gas giant or gas cloud you must deploy it. Send the vessel to
the gas source. Once there, right click on the source and the menu will have a deploy order. It
takes a few seconds to deploy (and to un-deploy), but once done then ship refueling operations
can commence. Hope this helps!

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RE: Resupply ships won't supply an answer. - 6/7/2014 10:29:10 AM

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I always hated that it doesn't really function like a normal fuel tanker would in real life but oh well. Still infinitely useful since i minimize fuel cell usage on my ships.

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RE: Resupply ships won't supply an answer. - 6/7/2014 10:59:39 AM

Lucian

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I always hated that it doesn't really function like a normal fuel tanker would in real life but oh well. Still infinitely useful since i minimize fuel cell usage on my ships.

That would be a great idea for the game. Tanker ships that you can add to a fleet which can refuel other ships until their own reserves run out. I'd love the ability to do that.

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RE: Resupply ships won't supply an answer. - 6/7/2014 11:15:21 AM

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ORIGINAL: Unforeseen

I always hated that it doesn't really function like a normal fuel tanker would in real life but oh well. Still infinitely useful since i minimize fuel cell usage on my ships.

That would be a great idea for the game. Tanker ships that you can add to a fleet which can refuel other ships until their own reserves run out. I'd love the ability to do that.

I doubt that would work well at all. The fleet refuels, and the tanker takes on the extra load of fuel required by the fleet? Where would it find that kind of amounts of fuel? Maybe at the capital spaceport if there has been some piece, quiet, and moderate ship building.

I really like the resupply ships, but I figured out how to deploy them years ago :)

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RE: Resupply ships won't supply an answer. - 6/7/2014 11:15:54 AM

pasty11

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Yea no tankers seems like a huge omission.

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RE: Resupply ships won't supply an answer. - 6/7/2014 11:25:51 AM

Lucian

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Where would it find that kind of amounts of fuel?

Wherever much larger fleets find fuel - as they inevitably do. I don't really see the problem.

Huge fleets often have to split up and then later regroup in order to refuel, I've seen it happen often in the game. In the worst case this would be the same sort of situation except with tankers the refueled fleet would not have to return to base for for a long time, allowing decent amounts of fuel to stockpile for when they do.

And military tankers would be a good strategic target in a battle - as they are in real life.

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RE: Resupply ships won't supply an answer. - 6/7/2014 12:07:32 PM

Bingeling

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Where would it find that kind of amounts of fuel?

Wherever much larger fleets find fuel - as they inevitably do. I don't really see the problem.

Huge fleets often have to split up and then later regroup in order to refuel, I've seen it happen often in the game. In the worst case this would be the same sort of situation except with tankers the refueled fleet would not have to return to base for for a long time, allowing decent amounts of fuel to stockpile for when they do.

And military tankers would be a good strategic target in a battle - as they are in real life.

Good military targets where the player can screw an AI that does not manage to utilize them. Wreck a huge store of fuel on the move, while busting their ships and gas mines with other fleets.

From my AAR game. Lots of fleet activity in the "new east", rescued by a mining system with 3 caslon giants to mine.

The fleets are cruisers and carriers, both carry 400 fuel.

The two types of fleets have 18 and 31 ships.

When they refuel, they want to reserve the full fuel capacity. 18*400 and 31*400. Or 7200 and 12400 caslon. They will maybe arrive at half capacity or a bit less, so they will actually grab maybe a bit more than half of that.

The eastern, new, large spaceport, has been sucked dry by fleets on repair and refuel missions. The 3 gas mines in the fantastic system to the north? 21k, 5k, 22k. But how often do you find 3 good fuel sources a trivial jump from the frontier spaceport? That has no other resources to fill up the cargo of the mining stations?

The gas mines can supply the fleets as is. They could even maybe manage if the fleets carried tankers along, but because this is an amazing system for fuel.

How would a tanker setup look? Well, it needs to be able to at least fill the fleet up once. Doubling the fuel requirement for the larger fleets to 14800 and 24800 fuel reserved when incoming. None of the gas mines could fill up the bigger fleet, which would head elsewhere as default.

To where? The next spaceport to the rear also has fleets visit now and then. It has 30k fuel with 7.6k reserved, maybe from a fleet heading there or new ships being built. A fraction less than the reserved required by the imaginary fleet.

Or to the capital, remember no gas mine can help them at current AI designs. The capital has 128k caslon, it can manage. At least as long as fleets don't go back to actually pick up that fuel :) How about the fuel burnt by extra travel with big fleets?

Resupply ships? If we had that tech? Easy, but one single ship can not serve 3 fleets. Multiple can deploy on the same gas giant, civilians will not come to pick up their fuel to feed the spaceport, they will go to the gas mines. More fuel will be lifted from the same gas giants.

Resupply ships could deploy one sector ahead of the Spaceport, and fleets would not have to go one sector back for fuel between their pirate base busts. The resupply ship could move behind the pirate busting fleet, deploying on the very gas giant that hosted the pirate base, while the battle still rages. And the resupply ships put no strain on the normal fuel network, they refuel themselves when deployed.

Resupply ships would make my eastern front work without an amazing fuel system to support it. And I would not have to worry about pirates attacking the gas mines (they have). I must add that my eastern front is extremely target rich, targets being pirates.

Fleets having to split up to refuel? With resupply ships deployed they would not have to unless you run excessively large fleets with extra large fuel capacities. But of course, if one fleet is incoming, the other one would avoid the resupply ship, with the incoming fleet reserving more fuel than they will use. But if you manually order the second fleet there, they will most likely find fuel, as the resupply ship mines more before they arrive, and the since first fleet members release some fuel after finishing their refuel missions.

Targets? If the AI knew how to deploy resupply ships efficiently, and how to utilize fleets efficiently? They would be amazing targets in war, because the best way to stop those fleets could be to strangle their fuel supply. But the AI deployed its resupply ship at the opposite map corner, so it hardly matters. And the AI fleet will probably get a mission to attack a mine at some other end of the galaxy next.

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RE: Resupply ships won't supply an answer. - 6/7/2014 5:36:52 PM

Hannable

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ehsumrell1

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hannable

Up until now, I've not been able to get this far into the game ... either I did something wrong, a new patch came out, or a bug/crash would keep me from advancing.

Now here I am with resupply ships and not a clue on how to use them. I'm assuming that they act like underway replenishment ships that gas up the warships without having to send the fleet back to base. Trouble is - I can't figure out how to fill up the cargo bays of the resupply ships. I sent one to a hydrogen cloud thinking there would be some kind of order to give it, but there isn't one, and refueling only puts fuel into the ship's own tanks and not into the cargo bay (and the resupply ship wants to go take fuel from a station or base instead of the cloud itself, and I'm pretty sure they can draw directly from a cloud).

Any helpful answers as to how to use these things would be greatly appreciated.

Hello Hannable;
When you send a resupplyship to a gas giant or gas cloud you must deploy it. Send the vessel to
the gas source. Once there, right click on the source and the menu will have a deploy order. It
takes a few seconds to deploy (and to un-deploy), but once done then ship refueling operations
can commence. Hope this helps!