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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 11:21:41 AM

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Damn disconcerting it is. The Allied player does everything he possibly can and gets steamrollered anyway with nothing but a few cuts and bruises administered to the Japanese in return.

I'm sorry if this offends Greyjoy, but you should have gotten your butt handed to you.

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 12:19:55 PM

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Damn disconcerting it is. The Allied player does everything he possibly can and gets steamrollered anyway with nothing but a few cuts and bruises administered to the Japanese in return.

I'm sorry if this offends Greyjoy, but you should have gotten your butt handed to you.

To be honest it is a bit of a mystery.. maybe the BBs made a big difference ? maybe a fair bit of the allied troops there just arrived and were in strat mode ?

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 12:24:25 PM

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Please pardon me for having an opinion and the audacity to pollute this thread with it.

I'll bow out now.

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 12:29:45 PM

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Some comments here seem to forget that the Aussie troop quality is still poor at this stage. We don't know if they were still militia squads or had the newer 42 rifle. Raw AV is a misleading number to look at. Geraldton was a clear terrain hex with only forts at 2. Where was the fortress you speak of??

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 1:19:49 PM

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Please pardon me for having an opinion and the audacity to pollute this thread with it.

I'll bow out now.

uhm??

What do you mean Hans?

I can't say I am surprised with the result at Geralton. I've been there on the receiving side of this many times in my game against Mr.Kane. I even lost 220K 1943 troops (US, UK and Aus ones) in mid 1943...
I think the main factor is experience. Japanese IDs are crack ones, while allied are pretty poor. Add the distruption caused by the BBs and the result couldn't be much different against early 1942 allied troops.

That's why I'm investing Oz. For some more months my LCUs can really do the difference against his own, especially on coastal areas, where my ships can use their firepower.

Now I wonder what will he do with Perth... I have 3 more divisions arriving and LOTS of siege artillery, along with AA, base forces and Combat Engineers.
10 AKEs are at Exmouth... I really hope he decides to stand for a fight there...possibly bringing his CVs...

Mar 27, 1942

The KB moves south with another amphib TF...Busselton is the target but it seems to be abandoning by the troops present there...
The enemy's army is retreating south, pounded by 200 bombers...3 Divisions are already marching south...more troops are unloading... BANZAI!!!!
Carnavon fell...and 3 more Bdes are now doomed in the middle of anywhere...

SS Snapper takes a shot to the Akagi...hit but no explosion...phewwwwwww

Lose 2 more xAKs to his subs near Geralton...but now, as Veji said, the foot is in the door...

Mavis spot many ships near Esperance... fleeing aux units it seems... subs are enrouted there...

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 1:28:46 PM

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Damn disconcerting it is. The Allied player does everything he possibly can and gets steamrollered anyway with nothing but a few cuts and bruises administered to the Japanese in return.

I'm sorry if this offends Greyjoy, but you should have gotten your butt handed to you.

To be honest it is a bit of a mystery.. maybe the BBs made a big difference ? maybe a fair bit of the allied troops there just arrived and were in strat mode ?

Don't think they were in strat mode... pretty sure that if it was the case it would have shown in the combat report "mode(-)"

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 1:31:27 PM

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Some comments here seem to forget that the Aussie troop quality is still poor at this stage. We don't know if they were still militia squads or had the newer 42 rifle. Raw AV is a misleading number to look at. Geraldton was a clear terrain hex with only forts at 2. Where was the fortress you speak of??

Clear terrain means a lot, especially if you get pounded by sea. That's why western Oz is so voulnerable...
Now everything depends on what erik will decide to do. Stand and fight for Perth, risking to lose the whole lot, or retreat fighting?
Not an easy decision...

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 1:38:45 PM

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Oh, forgot to say: a couple of Indian Bdes managed to escape from Akyab and eventually reached Kalemyo, where they attacked and defeated the 1st Raiding Rgt... now I need to send someone to take care of those bastards...but I am not in hurry: they can't go anywhere.
Tomorrow the 21st Army will cross the river and shock attack Ledo. May the Gods of War still be with us...

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 1:44:57 PM

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Damn disconcerting it is. The Allied player does everything he possibly can and gets steamrollered anyway with nothing but a few cuts and bruises administered to the Japanese in return.

I'm sorry if this offends Greyjoy, but you should have gotten your butt handed to you.

To be honest it is a bit of a mystery.. maybe the BBs made a big difference ? maybe a fair bit of the allied troops there just arrived and were in strat mode ?

Not a mystery at all. Massive bombardment such as GJ put on the Allies will result in massive disruptions sometimes causing the enemy to lose-even at 1-2 odds. Happens to me daily in China. It is way over powered but that is the way the game works. Works that way for the Allies later in the game. Forts or no, it is very dangerous to defend an open terrain coastal hex. With the KB there, GJ would have won this in a few more turns anyways as he could keep piling the disruption on with air attacks.

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 1:51:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Damn disconcerting it is. The Allied player does everything he possibly can and gets steamrollered anyway with nothing but a few cuts and bruises administered to the Japanese in return.

I'm sorry if this offends Greyjoy, but you should have gotten your butt handed to you.

To be honest it is a bit of a mystery.. maybe the BBs made a big difference ? maybe a fair bit of the allied troops there just arrived and were in strat mode ?

Not a mystery at all. Massive bombardment such as GJ put on the Allies will result in massive disruptions sometimes causing the enemy to lose-even at 1-2 odds. Happens to me daily in China. It is way over powered but that is the way the game works. Works that way for the Allies later in the game. Forts or no, it is very dangerous to defend an open terrain coastal hex. With the KB there, GJ would have won this in a few more turns anyways as he could keep piling the disruption on with air attacks.

True. Later in the game it's the same for the allies. The only way Japan can defend a clear coastal hex is to file lots of mines, lots of CD guns and possibly to have 7+ forts... something VERY difficult to do for Japan....so you better think twice before investing much efforts on coastal clear hexes

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 1:54:02 PM

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What I mean Greyjoy is that I seem to be in one of my "This game makes the Japanese so ahistorically overpowered its ridiculous moods" today.

Standing and fighting against them anywhere in '42 seems to be a futile pursuit.

I certainly wouldn't counsel he stands and fights given the Japanese ability to steamroll anything in its path.

The point I made that I retracted in the face of ny59Giants retort was incredulity at casualties of only 4 squads suffered clearing a fortified city defended by a divisions worth of troops.

He chose to focus on my use of the term fortified, when the real point is that only losing 4 squads attacking even a completely unfortified city defended by a divisions worth of troops is incredible.

The Japanese truly are supermen.

I apologize for my petulance.

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 2:00:50 PM

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What I mean Greyjoy is that I seem to be in one of my "This game makes the Japanese so ahistorically overpowered its ridiculous moods" today.

Standing and fighting against them anywhere in '42 seems to be a futile pursuit.

I certainly wouldn't counsel he stands and fights given the Japanese ability to steamroll anything in its path.

The point I made that I retracted in the face of ny59Giants retort was incredulity at casualties of only 4 squads suffered clearing a fortified city defended by a divisions worth of troops.

He chose to focus on my use of the term fortified, when the real point is that only losing 4 squads attacking even a completely unfortified city defended by a divisions worth of troops is incredible.

The Japanese truly are supermen.

I apologize for my petulance.

Well, true, possibly I got a very good dice&roll on the casualities counter... but please consider the squads lost or disabled during the landings... something like 2000 men lost out of an army of 30,000 men... that's not few!

However I understand what you say...but I consider the enemy almost opposed no opposition at all after the HEAVY air and naval bombardments... now go back few pages and see what I suffered at Sian...something like 20,000 Japanese killed!
It's all about distruption... when an army is distrupted it opposes very little resistance and that's how I explain the very little losses on my side in this battle

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 2:02:42 PM

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What I mean Greyjoy is that I seem to be in one of my "This game makes the Japanese so ahistorically overpowered its ridiculous moods" today.

Standing and fighting against them anywhere in '42 seems to be a futile pursuit.

I certainly wouldn't counsel he stands and fights given the Japanese ability to steamroll anything in its path.

The point I made that I retracted in the face of ny59Giants retort was incredulity at casualties of only 4 squads suffered clearing a fortified city defended by a divisions worth of troops.

He chose to focus on my use of the term fortified, when the real point is that only losing 4 squads attacking even a completely unfortified city defended by a divisions worth of troops is incredible.

The Japanese truly are supermen.

I apologize for my petulance.

Well it is true that japanese LCUs tend to be way overpowered early in game because of experience and morale being so high. Or the other way round allied LCUs are strongly underpowered early on because of that. This game also doesn't take into account the moral effects of fighting on one's own turf.

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 2:07:23 PM

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Those two American Rgts should be from the 31st ID if I remember correctly... or the 25th... however one of the few "free" units the allied gets early in the game... it's pretty important to maul them now... and would be awesome to destroy them once for all. Will do my best to harvest as much as possible in Oz...something I wasn't able to do in India (well, in India between Colombo and Calcutta I think I've bagged nearly 100,000 men...not that bad anyway)

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 2:32:52 PM

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 2:44:05 PM

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What I mean Greyjoy is that I seem to be in one of my "This game makes the Japanese so ahistorically overpowered its ridiculous moods" today.

Standing and fighting against them anywhere in '42 seems to be a futile pursuit.

I certainly wouldn't counsel he stands and fights given the Japanese ability to steamroll anything in its path.

The point I made that I retracted in the face of ny59Giants retort was incredulity at casualties of only 4 squads suffered clearing a fortified city defended by a divisions worth of troops.

He chose to focus on my use of the term fortified, when the real point is that only losing 4 squads attacking even a completely unfortified city defended by a divisions worth of troops is incredible.

The Japanese truly are supermen.

I apologize for my petulance.

Well, true, possibly I got a very good dice&roll on the casualities counter... but please consider the squads lost or disabled during the landings... something like 2000 men lost out of an army of 30,000 men... that's not few!

However I understand what you say...but I consider the enemy almost opposed no opposition at all after the HEAVY air and naval bombardments... now go back few pages and see what I suffered at Sian...something like 20,000 Japanese killed!
It's all about distruption... when an army is distrupted it opposes very little resistance and that's how I explain the very little losses on my side in this battle

Good points all Grey, but to a degree aren't you also making my point for me?

Shouldn't the disruption that accompanied those 2000 casualties in the landings also have resulted in a degraded level of performance in the battle for the city?

A heavily disrupted, heavily attrited force lands over a beach under heavy coastal gun fire and goes on to sweep the defenders suffering only a few hangnails in return.

I don't begrudge the success of taking a coastal city in open terrain with low fort levels that has been heavily bombed and bombarded, I just think it's incredible that it was done with only 4 squads lost.

Kudos to you for pulling it off.

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 2:45:29 PM

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Wow - disaster for Japan becomes disaster for the Allies. Call on Marshal Murat and begin the pursuit!

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 2:46:45 PM

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PS - I would argue that although GJ obliged by landing at Geraldton, the decision to defend here was highly risky strategically. Had GJ discovered the truth, it would be easy to land behind him and trap these troops without the risk of landing in his teeth.

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 4:14:18 PM

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PS - I would argue that although GJ obliged by landing at Geraldton, the decision to defend here was highly risky strategically. Had GJ discovered the truth, it would be easy to land behind him and trap these troops without the risk of landing in his teeth.

My recon planes failed on me. Despite 9/10 DL on the turn before I landed, it seemed that only 12,000 men were present there. Possibly this was due to the fact that I was using Mavis from Exmouth and Jakes from the KB to recon...didn't have an operative field anywhere nearby (The closest AF was at broome!)

@Hans: I do think that most of those 2000 casualities were among already disabled squads. Those two divisions were used extensively during the siege of Batavia and when I loaded them they had 10% of disabled squads. I guess those disabled got destroyed during the landings, but the intact squads not thanks to the HEAVY counterbattery fire by my BB/CA/CL/DDs that were shielding the landing ships.
I bet if I had all those surface assets embedded the distruption would have been much much higher

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 4:31:37 PM

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R&D:

didn't talk much about economy till now.
Slowly the economy is getting set.
Next month will start producing Rufes (unfortunately only 2 FP groups upgrade to them but wanna use them if I can).
The A6M3 should be online by mid april 42
KI-44 IIa by the end of may (only 3 groups upgrading to the a version, so not investing much on this model).
7x30 factories of KI-43 IIa are getting repaired. Hopefully I can get the IIb version by late 42.
Finally reached the breakeven point for Ha-35, Ha-32 and Ha-33...producing more than what I'm expending... trying to get the 500 bonus ASAP
Will be hard with PDU OFF...but I'm doing my very best

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 10:00:09 PM

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What I mean Greyjoy is that I seem to be in one of my "This game makes the Japanese so ahistorically overpowered its ridiculous moods" today.

Standing and fighting against them anywhere in '42 seems to be a futile pursuit.

I certainly wouldn't counsel he stands and fights given the Japanese ability to steamroll anything in its path.

The point I made that I retracted in the face of ny59Giants retort was incredulity at casualties of only 4 squads suffered clearing a fortified city defended by a divisions worth of troops.

He chose to focus on my use of the term fortified, when the real point is that only losing 4 squads attacking even a completely unfortified city defended by a divisions worth of troops is incredible.

The Japanese truly are supermen.

I apologize for my petulance.

Well, true, possibly I got a very good dice&roll on the casualities counter... but please consider the squads lost or disabled during the landings... something like 2000 men lost out of an army of 30,000 men... that's not few!

However I understand what you say...but I consider the enemy almost opposed no opposition at all after the HEAVY air and naval bombardments... now go back few pages and see what I suffered at Sian...something like 20,000 Japanese killed!
It's all about distruption... when an army is distrupted it opposes very little resistance and that's how I explain the very little losses on my side in this battle

Good points all Grey, but to a degree aren't you also making my point for me?

Shouldn't the disruption that accompanied those 2000 casualties in the landings also have resulted in a degraded level of performance in the battle for the city?

A heavily disrupted, heavily attrited force lands over a beach under heavy coastal gun fire and goes on to sweep the defenders suffering only a few hangnails in return.

I don't begrudge the success of taking a coastal city in open terrain with low fort levels that has been heavily bombed and bombarded, I just think it's incredible that it was done with only 4 squads lost.

Kudos to you for pulling it off.

I agree with you Hans that the Japanese should have been punished in this situation but the game has its limits. However, I have always said that if the Allied player does not panic and screw up things too much and holds onto his carriers, that there is no way he can lose the game. Japan is super strong at the beginning and it is out of whack but if they were left to their very serious historical limitations, the game might be a better simulation but certainly will be the more boring for it.

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/6/2014 11:07:32 PM

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Kalgoorlie is always a big key. Is there any recon on it yet?

Another question: how many turns a day do you guys do? This game seems to be progressing very quickly.

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/7/2014 12:19:01 AM

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Shouldn't the disruption that accompanied those 2000 casualties in the landings also have resulted in a degraded level of performance in the battle for the city?
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Kudos to you for pulling it off.

Looks really a little bit weired, who could disagree - but if there was no real fighting, no battle for the city?
The historical falls of Eben Emmanuel or Singers, let alone the fall of France or North Africa are examples what could happen if surprise and incompetence meets panic.
Some very (un)lucky shells, a brainfart by a thirdclass colonel giving a retreat order, leaving key terrain undefended, thirsty, green troops without ammo and fresh water, a complete mess of communication between a multinationed force, overshadowed by personal dislikes and questions about hierarchy - all this had happened many times before. :-(

Very unfortunately for Obvert, without a doubt, this disaster could very easily turn all in a big strategic mess for the time.

Well done, GJ.

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/7/2014 12:31:53 AM

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Kalgoorlie is always a big key. Is there any recon on it yet?

Another question: how many turns a day do you guys do? This game seems to be progressing very quickly.

I lost a lot of troops in Australia that I probably should not have running around the desert near Perth and Geraldton. In the future as the allies I will build a strong defense at Kalgoorlie and let the Japanese have anything else they want west of there.

You cannot really defend against the Japanese attacking western Australia without risking being cutoff and destroyed.

On the flip side the Japanese gain almost no resources or production so it is just a delaying tactic that burns fuel and supplies for them.

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/7/2014 9:57:55 AM

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We nearly run into a disaster!
I had the KB following an ASW TF moving South towards Busselton...
Forgot to change the orders for the ASW TF and during the night it reacted 4 times to enemy subs, moving the KB all around ending up 3 hexes North of Perth...

Luckly we didn't enocunter any sub, but the risk was high!

During the day bombers did their job to pinn down the fleeing enemy....tomorrow we'll attack, hoping those bastards do not slip between my fingers

From Kaga 18 zeros took off to sweep Perth... bad idea!...outnumbered by the brave australian pilots, i lost 7 zeros and 5 crack pilots

Later in the day the first oscar sweep at Perth did take some Revenge, but i hate losing pilots like that. During the day we've downed 12 Kittihawks, losing 7 zeros and 2 oscars....
Nells took off to attack shippings at Esperance... 2 cargo sunk for the loss of 2 Nells.

Kalgoorite has 18,000 men!

and Perth 56K!!! Gosh... luckly my reinforcements are coming. 3 more divisions are on their way. By the time we reach Perth they should be unloading at Geralton

I wouldn't want to sound stupid....but i think Perth and western Oz are doomed. Don't see how he can stop 6/7 well supported Japanese divisions with 6 BBs in support.

Tomorrow we'll release 100 zeros and 200 bombers in Western Oz... looking for the dominion of the skies

Morning Air attack on Perth , at 49,147

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 3 destroyed

CAP engaged:
No.75 Sqn RAAF with Kittyhawk IA (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 9 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
No.77 Sqn RAAF with Kittyhawk IA (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 9 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Perth , at 49,147

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 24

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 3 destroyed

CAP engaged:
No.75 Sqn RAAF with Kittyhawk IA (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 23300 and 25300.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
No.77 Sqn RAAF with Kittyhawk IA (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 22450 and 25300.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes

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Morning Air attack on 4th Aus Cav Brigade, at 50,142 , near Geraldton

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 14
G4M1 Betty x 14
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 22

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
133 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
7 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
7 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 10th Cav Recce Regiment ...
Also attacking 13th Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking 754th Tank Battalion ...
Also attacking 10th Cav Recce Regiment ...
Also attacking 4th Aus Cav Brigade ...
Also attacking 10th Cav Recce Regiment ...
Also attacking 754th Tank Battalion ...

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Morning Air attack on 4th Aus Cav Brigade, at 50,142 , near Geraldton

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
B5N2 Kate x 108

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 6 damaged

Allied ground losses:
177 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 13th Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking 108th Anti Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 10th Cav Recce Regiment ...
Also attacking 4th Aus Cav Brigade ...
Also attacking 13th Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking 108th Anti Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 10th Cav Recce Regiment ...
Also attacking 4th Aus Cav Brigade ...
Also attacking 13th Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking 108th Anti Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 10th Cav Recce Regiment ...
Also attacking 4th Aus Cav Brigade ...
Also attacking 13th Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking 108th Anti Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 10th Cav Recce Regiment ...
Also attacking 4th Aus Cav Brigade ...
Also attacking 13th Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking 108th Anti Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 10th Cav Recce Regiment ...

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Esperance at 56,153

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 15

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
ARD Tandjong Kv-2
xAK Nurani, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Theofano Livanos, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

CAP engaged:
49th PG/HqS with P-40E Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/7/2014 9:58:33 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Kalgoorlie is always a big key. Is there any recon on it yet?

Another question: how many turns a day do you guys do? This game seems to be progressing very quickly.

A couple of turns at average... some days even 3 or 4

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/7/2014 10:00:44 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wargmr

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Kalgoorlie is always a big key. Is there any recon on it yet?

Another question: how many turns a day do you guys do? This game seems to be progressing very quickly.

I lost a lot of troops in Australia that I probably should not have running around the desert near Perth and Geraldton. In the future as the allies I will build a strong defense at Kalgoorlie and let the Japanese have anything else they want west of there.

You cannot really defend against the Japanese attacking western Australia without risking being cutoff and destroyed.

On the flip side the Japanese gain almost no resources or production so it is just a delaying tactic that burns fuel and supplies for them.

Sure it's a delaying strategy, but owning Ceylon, Diego Carcia, Cocos Is and Western Oz, put the allies in a very difficult situation in the western part of the map. Untill they have a complete CV superiority it's pretty hard to take a foothold back in the west...and by that time i should have fortified enough the Pacific to be able to redeploy the KB in the west... or at least this is the geeneral idea

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/7/2014 11:03:14 AM

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How many tank regiments did you bring to western Australia?? Need them to act like Rommel's Panzer Corp in North Africa!!

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/9/2014 9:24:58 AM

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Mar 29- Apr 1, 1942

Ledo falls at the very first attack. The 21st Army invested with 950 AVs the garrison, composed of Chinese troops and small british and brumese LCUs. 6-1 and the base is ours!
Also the base fell almost intact (only 9 points of oil damaged)! BANZAI!

In OZ something is going on. Perth is being abandoned!!!! and the whole Oz army is retreating to Kalgoorite! Love that!
In the meanwhile we continue to chase the Geralton Army towards Perth. I have only 3 tank rgts with me, so not enough to really do a "Rommel" style advance... but we're proceeding.
10 AA units and 6 base forces just arrived at Geralton.
if Perth is really being abandoned, that could change everything and speed up incredibly my advance in the western Oz...WOW!

The KB tries to avoid all those nasty subs that are infesting the waters between Exmouth and Geralton... luckly I think I've managed to escape without being seen. Now we're regrouping at Koepang with the mini-KB. We will split the Carrier force in two, leaving 1 KB to the west and 1 for Centpac.

In centpac, on the 1st of April, one of my sub (I-23) got a DL raised from 0/0 to 10/10 in a single day... 10 hexes SW of Midway... I would be surprised if it was a cat that managed to get that level of DL in a single day at 10 hexes of distance...must be a CV.
Sending 3 more subs to investigate (one with glens).

In India, on april 1st, Erik ambushed me at Dehli.
12 Oscars and 13 Sallies shot down for only 5 enemies...ouch!

Another small surprise south of Tokyo...sub-laid-mines...and a TB explodes!

afternoon Air attack on Delhi , at 52,17

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 31

Allied aircraft
I-15-III x 4
Hawk 75M x 3
Hurricane I Trop x 22
Hurricane IIb Trop x 21
P-38E Lightning x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 33

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75M: 1 destroyed
Hurricane I Trop: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar sweeping at 20000 feet *

CAP engaged:
5th FG/17th FS CAF with I-15-III (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
11th FG/44th FS CAF with Hawk 75M (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
No.30 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
No.135 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
No.261 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
24th PG/3rd PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
21st PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
51st PG/25th PS with P-38E Lightning (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on Delhi , at 52,17

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 24
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 33

Allied aircraft
I-15-III x 2
Hawk 75M x 1
Hurricane I Trop x 15
Hurricane IIb Trop x 19
P-38E Lightning x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

No Allied losses

Manpower hits 11
Fires 8649

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
5th FG/17th FS CAF with I-15-III (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
1 planes vectored on to bombers
11th FG/44th FS CAF with Hawk 75M (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
No.30 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
No.135 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
No.261 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
24th PG/3rd PS with P-40E Warhawk (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 17150 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
21st PS with P-40E Warhawk (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
51st PG/25th PS with P-38E Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on Delhi , at 52,17

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 12

Allied aircraft
I-15-III x 2
Hawk 75M x 1
Hurricane I Trop x 15
Hurricane IIb Trop x 19
P-38E Lightning x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 3 destroyed

No Allied losses

CAP engaged:
5th FG/17th FS CAF with I-15-III (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
11th FG/44th FS CAF with Hawk 75M (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
No.30 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
No.135 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 17970.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 73 minutes
No.261 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
24th PG/3rd PS with P-40E Warhawk (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 17150 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
21st PS with P-40E Warhawk (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
51st PG/25th PS with P-38E Lightning (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead

in the meanwhile the very last Ducth resistance in Sumatra is annihilated

Ground combat at Pakanbaroe (46,83)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3882 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 127

Defending force 488 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8

Japanese adjusted assault: 31

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 31 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Pakanbaroe !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), preparation(-), morale(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-), fatigue(-)

Allied ground losses:
502 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 17 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 4

Assaulting units:
41st Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
Tapanoeli Gsn Battalion
Padang Defenses
NS KNIL Territory Regiment
Padang Garrison Battalion

Sending forces to reduce the last 2 concentrations of ducth troops in Java

< Message edited by GreyJoy -- 6/9/2014 10:33:34 AM >

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RE: Calcutta is sieged! - 6/9/2014 4:23:51 PM

GreyJoy

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April 2, 1942

The allies counter attack.

Erik, till now, is doing a masterfull Sir Robin.
Retired till Bombay and abandoned everything south of Dehli in India.
Now abandoning Perth in Oz.
Didn't defend anything except Calcutta and managed so to make me hit thin air every time.

Now he's hitting back.

I was right. Carriers east of Wake Is.

At least 4 TFs are spotted. Carriers in advance and BBs following 6 hexes behind.
Don't know yet if there's an invasion TF with them.
CVs' CAP shot down one of my Jakes, but not before that the brave pilot reported the advancing fleets.

3 subs are in those waters. 10 more are arriving from Truk, Tokyo and Saipan.

Wake is defended by a reinforced Naval Guard unit, with an AT unit, an AA Bn and the Wake CD unit. Not a piece of cake to invade if you ask me.

I have a SCTF at Yokohama and another one at Truk. The KB 1 will move to the pacific now, but won't arrive before 1 week. So if it's an invasion, the garrison will have to face it on its own. Risky move by Erik if it's an invasion...

Afternoon Air attack on Wake Island , at 136,98

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F2A-3 Buffalo x 11
F4F-3 Wildcat x 32
SBD-3 Dauntless x 60

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Runway hits 12
Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
7 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Port Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
12 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking Wake Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking Wake Island ...
Also attacking Wake Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking Wake Island ...
Also attacking Wake Coastal Gun Battalion ...
Also attacking Wake Island ...
Also attacking Wake Coastal Gun Battalion ...