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RE: RIP??? - 6/10/2014 4:42:43 PM   
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Iki-shima, Tsushima and Fusan have some serious 40cm guns. Yura Strait and Hoyo have only 15cm

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RE: RIP??? - 6/10/2014 4:50:25 PM   
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Here is what a 40.6 cm coastal gun might look like. (Not from the Paciific )


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RE: RIP??? - 6/10/2014 5:00:39 PM   
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Interesting...the 40cm guns at the three fortresses mentioned were destined for Akagi and Tosa which were not built (as BB's) due to the Washington Naval Treaty.

They used the actual twin turrets as gun emplacements and would have looked very similar to those on Nagato.

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These were the first large-caliber guns designed entirely in Japan. They were mounted afloat only on the Nagato class, but had been planned for use on the Kaga, Amagi and Kii classes of the early 1920s, all of which were canceled as a result of the Washington Naval Limitation Treaty. Those completed guns and mountings intended for the canceled ships were then used for the modernization of the Nagato class during their 1930s rebuilds. One of the old turrets removed from Mutsu was installed as a static display at the Japanese Naval Academy at Etajima. Three twin turrets originally intended for Akagi and Tosa were instead used as coastal artillery, covering the southern entrance to the Sea of Japan on Tsushima, Ikishima and at Pusan, Korea.
These guns were generally similar to British wire wound guns of the time but were of lighter construction, being about an inch (25 mm) less
in diameter at the muzzle than the 15"/42 (38 cm) Mark I. This may indicate that they were not wire wound over their full length.
Used a Welin screw breech but with an Elswick 3-motion short-arm mechanism, which resembled that used on the British 18"/40 (46 cm) guns of
1917. The breech block needed to be withdrawn straight back into the carrier before it could be swung. A total of about 40 guns were
manufactured at the Kure and Muroran Ironworks.


http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNJAP_161-45_3ns.htm





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RE: RIP??? - 6/10/2014 5:07:34 PM   
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I think this is one emplacement. Not sure which. Evidentry big shortage of rhinocerous horn powdah.




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RE: RIP??? - 6/10/2014 5:10:52 PM   
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Evidentry Japan-mens very inscrutaburh so much bettah at camofrage than Germany-mens but-ah need Korea-mens in diapers to come and trim bushes.

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RE: SHE'S HERE! - 6/10/2014 9:32:48 PM   
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OK, I looked it up. At its narrowest, the Tsushima Strait is 60 km..so if you split the distance from Tsushima to Iki-shima to maximize range to either battery you will be 30km or 18.6 miles out from both batteries.

That's 32,700 yds. At maximal elevation (43 degrees) the 40.6 guns on Nagato had a theoretical maximal range of 41,400 yds...so yes...theoretically...the 40.6 cm guns on Iki-shima and Tsushima could cover the strait. You might even get more range depending on the elevation above sea level of the battery.
Of course it would have to be pretty damn good visibility or radar control.

So, can you sail by in AE?

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RE: SHE'S HERE! - 6/10/2014 11:24:23 PM   
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It depends.
Of course you could sail in... :-)

maybe a look at the other side of the world could be helpful?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-Channel_guns_in_the_Second_World_War

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RE: SHE'S HERE! - 6/11/2014 8:20:55 PM   
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Do your subs have air conditioning?
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsub/articles/20140611.aspx

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RE: SHE'S HERE! - 6/12/2014 1:47:37 AM   
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Do your subs have air conditioning?
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsub/articles/20140611.aspx


They oughta put rubber buggy baby bumpers on the darn things. Now say that three times fast.

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RE: SHE'S HERE! - 6/12/2014 6:34:19 PM   
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Do your subs have air conditioning?
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsub/articles/20140611.aspx



Yes

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RE: RIP??? - 6/12/2014 6:51:45 PM   
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I have been completely wrecked by infirmity for a week. First malaria and yellow fever and God knows what else from hanging out at FOB San Miguel...and then a tooth abscess.


Hory crap that is painful!

FAM: uhhhhhhhhhhhh. <writhing around like KSM during a CIA baptism>

Brother in law (dentist): You have an abscess. I'm going to have to put 18 shots in your gums and 12 in your palate and then drill till we hit bone.

FAM: OK

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RE: RIP??? - 6/12/2014 7:24:35 PM   
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Looks like he's getting his retaliation in first

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RE: RIP??? - 6/12/2014 7:53:07 PM   
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Looks like he's getting his retaliation in first


He did marry my complainingest sister but did not seek my advice first so that is his problem.

To his credit it hurts much less today. Now it's just the malaria and yellow fever and whooping cough and scurvey...although now I have to go see and endodontist and get 18 more gum shots and 12 palatal shots.

He wrote down "brother-in-law" on the referral. I wonder if that is some secret dentist code for "hurt the baaaastard...bad"

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RE: RIP??? - 6/12/2014 9:22:51 PM   
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Did you notice the notation "Difficult Patient" when you read your chart upside down at the reception desk?

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RE: RIP??? - 6/12/2014 11:17:23 PM   
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Did you notice the notation "Difficult Patient" when you read your chart upside down at the reception desk?

Although they may have spelled it w-u-s-s.

Cap, by any chance was that abscess caused by grinding your teeth as you worked with the new computerized medical records system,
or submitted your California Tax on Responsible Adults? In the former case, you should be able to claim worker's compensation and
in the latter case, a tax deduction equal to your pain and suffering. We'll all be your witnesses!

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RE: RIP??? - 6/12/2014 11:30:33 PM   
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I called the endodontist to schedule an appointment today.

Hot blonde receptionist (I imagine): Do you know which tooth we will be working on Mr. Mandrake?

FAM Yeah, one of mine.

<She actually laughed but recovered quickly>

Hot blonde receptionist (I imagine): Do you have dental insurance Mr. Mandrake?

<OK, end of mirthmaking...she is probably not that cute anyway>

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RE: RIP??? - 6/12/2014 11:46:58 PM   
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Did you notice the notation "Difficult Patient" when you read your chart upside down at the reception desk?

Although they may have spelled it w-u-s-s.

Cap, by any chance was that abscess caused by grinding your teeth as you worked with the new computerized medical records system,
or submitted your California Tax on Responsible Adults? In the former case, you should be able to claim worker's compensation and
in the latter case, a tax deduction equal to your pain and suffering. We'll all be your witnesses!


Naw, I had that tooth filled years ago...then the filling fell out...so it was rotorootered out again and a bigger filling applied...then the tooth cracked...so I needed a root canal with a temporary filling...then I waited 7 years <nobody told me that was too long>..so now another rotorooter and a new temp filling and now that has to be drilled out again next week and I need to have any microscopic cracks filled then recapped...then I go back in August to have the cap drilled out again and a permanent crown applied.

I reminded of the Seinfeld joke: "The only difference between Josef Mengele and my dentist are the magazines in the lobby"


When I was a medical student there was this homeless alcoholic guy with advanced diabetes, no teeth and a bad infection on his gangrenous big
toe. We are pumping him full of antibiotics, spending thousands to save his toe and everyday at rounds he asks:

Mr. Jones: Hey Doc, do I get to go home <sic> today?

Chief Resident: No, sorry Mr. Jones. We need to get your blood sugar under 200.

Mr. Jones: Aww Doc, just cut it offfff <sprays spit out through missing teeth..then smiles broadly> I don't need it.

Guy was an amazingly happy fellow. Didn't matter to him how many toes he had. I am beginning to understand his philosoffffy.

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RE: RIP??? - 6/13/2014 1:00:16 AM   
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Did you notice the notation "Difficult Patient" when you read your chart upside down at the reception desk?

Although they may have spelled it w-u-s-s.

Cap, by any chance was that abscess caused by grinding your teeth as you worked with the new computerized medical records system,
or submitted your California Tax on Responsible Adults? In the former case, you should be able to claim worker's compensation and
in the latter case, a tax deduction equal to your pain and suffering. We'll all be your witnesses!




Naw, I had that tooth filled years ago...then the filling fell out...so it was rotorootered out again and a bigger filling applied...then the tooth cracked...so I needed a root canal with a temporary filling...then I waited 7 years <nobody told me that was too long>..so now another rotorooter and a new temp filling and now that has to be drilled out again next week and I need to have any microscopic cracks filled then recapped...then I go back in August to have the cap drilled out again and a permanent crown applied.

I reminded of the Seinfeld joke: "The only difference between Josef Mengele and my dentist are the magazines in the lobby"


When I was a medical student there was this homeless alcoholic guy with advanced diabetes, no teeth and a bad infection on his gangrenous big
toe. We are pumping him full of antibiotics, spending thousands to save his toe and everyday at rounds he asks:

Mr. Jones: Hey Doc, do I get to go home <sic> today?

Chief Resident: No, sorry Mr. Jones. We need to get your blood sugar under 200.

Mr. Jones: Aww Doc, just cut it offfff <sprays spit out through missing teeth..then smiles broadly> I don't need it.

Guy was an amazingly happy fellow. Didn't matter to him how many toes he had. I am beginning to understand his philosoffffy.



Well Captain, I have the movie for you. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074860/?ref_=nv_sr_1
The marathon Man. People would walk out of the movie until the scene with the Dentist was over and then come back in.

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RE: RIP??? - 6/13/2014 2:27:53 AM   
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Is it safe?



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RE: RIP??? - 6/13/2014 3:03:40 AM   
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Ahhhhhhh! Sympathetic tooth pain!

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RE: RIP??? - 6/13/2014 3:11:18 AM   
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Naw, I had that tooth filled years ago...then the filling fell out...so it was rotorootered out again and a bigger filling applied...then the tooth cracked...so I needed a root canal with a temporary filling...then I waited 7 years <nobody told me that was too long>..so now another rotorooter and a new temp filling and now that has to be drilled out again next week and I need to have any microscopic cracks filled then recapped...then I go back in August to have the cap drilled out again and a permanent crown applied.



I know the dentist figures he can get another three or four payments out of that tooth, but isn't it time to clamp down and insist on an implant? I understand the werewolf and vampire ones are big with the hip people these days (not that I'm one of them) ... (and also not that anyone ever thought I was!)

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RE: RIP??? - 6/13/2014 1:48:12 PM   
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My dad just got a dental implant at 83 He fought for that tooth way longer than I. The Mandrake clan fights for their teeth.

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RE: RIP??? - 6/13/2014 1:58:50 PM   
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*************July 18, 1943(c)**********


Sakhalin and the Kuriles: The Canadians start landing at Shimushiri and are pretty badly disabled as they were not prepped for this lovely isrand.

Improbably, some staff flunkie forgets to order the attack at Shikoku.

A previously damaged CL and her sister ship are lurking about by Etoforu and get pummeled.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Etorofu at 127,54

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 24
SBD-5 Dauntless x 15

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 damaged
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CL Noshiro, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Yubari, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage

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RE: RIP??? - 6/13/2014 2:08:01 PM   
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Borneo: JJ sends some TK's to Brunei??? They get spotted by B-25's from Palawan.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Brunei at 65,87

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 11

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
TK Chinkai Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
TK Teiyo Maru
TK Kenwa Maru


Miri: We bring in some more infantry and Miri falls. A prep bombardment by Santa Fe and Mahan is waaaay too effective,,wrecking the airfield which was the point of the exercise.
Never seen a CL do that much damage.

Night Naval bombardment of Miri at 64,87

Allied Ships
CL Santa Fe
DD Mahan

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 32
Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 2


Ground combat at Miri (64,87)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1800 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 70

Defending force 1283 troops, 6 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 14

Allied adjusted assault: 42

Japanese adjusted defense: 5

Allied assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied forces CAPTURE Miri !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
627 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 33 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
Kanga Force Battalion
2nd/102nd Infantry Battalion
3rd/102nd Infantry Battalion

Defending units:
8th JNAF Coy
4th Naval Construction Battalion



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RE: RIP??? - 6/13/2014 2:17:20 PM   
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*******FOB San Miguel**********


FAM: <looking at battle reports> Yubari? Really? How many times has that damn thing been sunk already?

Moana: It's almost as if damage reports are irrationally exuberant.

FAM: Yes, yes. I was wondering the same thing.

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RE: RIP??? - 6/13/2014 2:25:06 PM   
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Did I tell this story? Hell, I can't remember.


So I am watching Blues Brothers during my infirmity with SG III. There is a great scene where Ray Charles runs a music store and a musician complains the action is dead on the piano. Ray comes out from behind the counter and starts playing Shake Your Tail Feathers.

The other musicians join in...the folks outside start dancing..great scene.

SG III watches the whole thing...pauses...then says "He's acting like he's blind"

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RE: RIP??? - 6/13/2014 2:34:45 PM   
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I was horizontal for about 4 d...so I watched everything on Netflix...even a 3 1/2 director's cut of Das Boot with no subtitles.

You can pretty much make out everything that is going on just from context, the acting, the occasional homologous German word and some knowledge of submarines.

The thing is fantastically filmed with great sets. Did they really have a working boat for the surface shots?

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RE: RIP??? - 6/13/2014 2:49:07 PM   
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Neighborhood update Quiet...almost too quiet. No screaming matches at night in the 'hood. The couch cushion hasn't been pissed on for 2 months.

PG is claiming she is going to move to a smaller place in a town named after a saint because her ex is threatening to go BK. I thought the $15K per month was unsustainable.

The nice but nerdy guy from across the street with a Harvard law degree and a PhD from MIT moved out...I guess...either that or he was killed
by a coven of blonde witches and they put his parts in a pickle jar. There are like 5 women over there about the same age and no men....except a carpenter and some painters from Jalisco.
Come to think of it, I don't think I have seen the carpenter for a week either. Maybe I should go over and introduce myself?

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RE: RIP??? - 6/13/2014 3:10:58 PM   
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Neighborhood update Quiet...almost too quiet. No screaming matches at night in the 'hood. The couch cushion hasn't been pissed on for 2 months.

PG is claiming she is going to move to a smaller place in a town named after a saint because her ex is threatening to go BK. I thought the $15K per month was unsustainable.

The nice but nerdy guy from across the street with a Harvard law degree and a PhD from MIT moved out...I guess...either that or he was killed
by a coven of blonde witches and they put his parts in a pickle jar. There are like 5 women over there about the same age and no men....except a carpenter and some painters from Jalisco.
Come to think of it, I don't think I have seen the carpenter for a week either. Maybe I should go over and introduce myself?



I guess that depends on how much you like pickle jars....


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RE: RIP??? - 6/13/2014 3:35:29 PM   
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Did I tell this story? Hell, I can't remember.


So I am watching Blues Brothers during my infirmity with SG III. There is a great scene where Ray Charles runs a music store and a musician complains the action is dead on the piano. Ray comes out from behind the counter and starts playing Shake Your Tail Feathers.

The other musicians join in...the folks outside start dancing..great scene.

SG III watches the whole thing...pauses...then says "He's acting like he's blind"

Bill Cosby told this story about Ray Charles...

He went over his house one time, whether to pick him to go somewhere or whatever I forget. So Ray is getting ready and (memory fuzzy, someone, probably) Ray's wife tells Bill to go in. The bathroom itself is in the dark, but in the light from the hallway Bill can see him at the sink, leaning over the sink a few inches from the mirror.

"What are you doing?"

"I'm shaving."

Bill is caught totally aback. "But, but..."

"What is it?

"The light is off."

"Turn it on if it bothers you!"



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