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Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/14/2014 12:06:54 PM

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Download Black's Sci-fi Music Mod:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ej6yyoas1y5nyz5/Black's_Sci-fi_Music_Mod_v2.rar

This mod replaces the background and event music with new, high quality, sci-fi themed tracks. I've carefully chosen music that is of high quality and I've remixed some tracks to make the music fit better into the game. If you like sci-fi or space themed music in general, then you may want to check out this mod.

Please note that, even though I remixed some tracks, I didn't create any of them. See the Readme file for legal information and the credits, and if you like one of the tracks, consider checking out the artist for more awesome tracks.

Compatibility

This mod is compatible with the retail and Steam versions of Universe.

This mod is fully compatible with other mods that don't mod the music files.
If the other mod does change the music, then you could remove the music folder from the other mod,
or move the other mod's music files into: (game folder)\Sounds\Music

This mod modifies the following files:
- All .mp3 music files inside Sounds\Music.
- All .mp3 music files inside Sounds\Effects. (Don't confuse this with the .wav effects files)

How to install/uninstall

See the Readme file. It's important you follow the instructions in the Readme.

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/14/2014 12:09:32 PM

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EDIT: nevermind this post, it doesn't apply anymore.

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/14/2014 1:10:35 PM

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This doesn't violate copyright does it? You are technically 'redistributing' copy protected material. Don't want anyone getting in legal trouble here.

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/14/2014 1:15:29 PM

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It's fine as long as it's kept to fair use. The only additional requirement some of those channels lay down is that you advertise their channel and/or where you can find the music. See the Readme for all of that information. I put a lot of effort into providing this information inside the Readme.

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/14/2014 5:13:59 PM

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Will give it a try! Thx,

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/14/2014 10:13:08 PM

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Before i download it...
There is maybe an audition on youtube or similar?

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/15/2014 7:11:33 AM

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I suggest you simply try it out in game to see what effect it has. The download is fairly small anyway.

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/15/2014 11:44:21 AM

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This is still in violation of copyright as per section 107 which describes the limitations for fair use. http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#107

Also if you read the beginning of this page http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html you will see that fair use is a right attributed to the owner, not the general public. You MUST still obtain permission from the creator of the material, this permission cannot be obtained through distributors such as VEVO and youtube users. In any case, as the purpose of this mod does not fall in accordance with section 107 permission cannot be obtained.

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/15/2014 12:48:21 PM

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What you said is simply incorrect. But why don't you go complain about the obvious copyright violations over on this forum like some of the graphical or sounds mods that use content or work from other games and movies, and such. The mass effect and star trek mods would be an obvious choice to start with, no? But seriously, I don't quite understand what your deal is. Did I step on your toes, or something?

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/15/2014 12:57:54 PM

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Because this is a violation of copyright? Because i value the law? I don't have to explain myself for trying to help someone avoid breaking the law. The only thing that matters here is that you did not obtain permission from the artist/creator's of these tracks and therefore regardless of whether or not you are within fair use or not[which you aren't] you cannot create a copy and upload it for use by others. "One of the rights accorded to the owner of copyright is the right to reproduce or to authorize others to reproduce the work"

This is essentially the same situation as if you or I were to make a copy of say..an ACDC song for instance on a CD and then loan that cd or give that cd to a friend so that he could listen to it while he does his homework or flips burgers at mcdonalds. Boths situations are a violation, and to make things worse your crediting the distributors rather than the artists.

Any case, i'm not trying to antagonize you. Just alot of people misunderstand what "fair use" implies.

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/15/2014 1:09:12 PM

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I also have a music folder with some pretty epic stuff in it. But i cannot upload it legally which makes me sad :(

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/15/2014 1:12:11 PM

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You are comparing apples with oranges, plus you have absolutely no idea under which conditions the content provided falls. The channels in question can dictate under which conditions the tracks can be used and such because they hold ALL THE RIGHTS to it. So if they say it's OK, then it IS. And yes, this thing does fall under fair use.

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/15/2014 1:13:51 PM

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And I'm very sorry about your music mod, but maybe you should go ask the creator or whoever holds the rights to figure out what conditions they want to apply. Simply checking out the websites where the music can be found or sending them an email does the job.

EDIT: You could've sent me a PM instead of cluttering up this topic...

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/15/2014 1:25:24 PM

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Your suggesting that if for example, person A purchases a copy of person B's music person A then has the right to make a copy and redistribute it? If this is the case, this is not true. All parties involved must have permission to redistribute, and that permission ABSOLUTELY CANNOT be granted by anyone other than the owner or those whom the owner has appointed legally authorized to do so.

Another good example is gamestop. If you buy a game from gamestop it's legal, but just because gamestop could legally sell you the game does not mean they have the legal authority to permit you to copy the game and give the copy away.

"The distinction between what is fair use and what is infringement in a particular case will not always be clear or easily defined. There is no specific number of words, lines, or notes that may safely be taken without permission. Acknowledging the source of the copyrighted material does not substitute for obtaining permission."

However in this case it IS clear, because the content was copied and made available for anyone to use regardless of the purpose and in this case made available for personal use. In contrast you have youtube, which makes content available for use but it cannot be downloaded and thus cannot be used for purposes other than the intention.

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/15/2014 1:26:04 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BlackAlpha

EDIT: You could've sent me a PM instead of cluttering up this topic...

Dually noted, my apologies.

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/15/2014 1:30:15 PM

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You are forgetting one thing. If you create something, you can dictate whatever conditions you please and that overrules the more general laws. But that's the last thing I will say on this subject since this discussion is waaaay off topic and going even further off topic now. This is not what I made this thread for.

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/15/2014 2:20:33 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Unforeseen

Because this is a violation of copyright? Because i value the law? I don't have to explain myself for trying to help someone avoid breaking the law. The only thing that matters here is that you did not obtain permission from the artist/creator's of these tracks and therefore regardless of whether or not you are within fair use or not[which you aren't] you cannot create a copy and upload it for use by others. "One of the rights accorded to the owner of copyright is the right to reproduce or to authorize others to reproduce the work"

This is essentially the same situation as if you or I were to make a copy of say..an ACDC song for instance on a CD and then loan that cd or give that cd to a friend so that he could listen to it while he does his homework or flips burgers at mcdonalds. Boths situations are a violation, and to make things worse your crediting the distributors rather than the artists.

Any case, i'm not trying to antagonize you. Just alot of people misunderstand what "fair use" implies.

Which is kind of funny because dual cassette decks have been around for decades, and back in the 80's, friends and I would get together with our music collections and make copies of each other's tapes. No one seemed to give two farts about copyright and pirating back then - they even legally sold the equipment that let you do it.

Now all of the sudden you can't even put a song in a YouTube video without some butthurt producer whining about copyright - as if they're going to make money by charging the YouTube videographer a licensing agreement. Those morons ought to be happy for the free advertizing. My PAID FOR music collection doubled in size thanks to hearing music on YouTube or elsewhere that I wouldn't have even known about if not for hearing it in someone's video.

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/15/2014 2:26:52 PM

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As long as you have specifically obtained permission from the individual artists such as J�n Hallur to upload their music for free access and download for the purpose of this game mod then you would not be in violation. At no point have you claimed to have obtained this permission which is why this conversation has continued as long as it has. You've more made it sound as if you obtained permission from sources like VEVO, which would not be acceptable.

Anyways, have a nice day.

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/15/2014 2:28:42 PM

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I've never stated either that i endorse the way copy right works or is handled anymore. I simply stated before that i didn't want anyone in the community getting in any kind of trouble here. There is a community called nexus that will insta ban people for even the suspicion of piracy, and then there is the legal concerns to boot.

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/15/2014 2:53:29 PM

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Like I said before, if you really would care about the things you mentioned, then you would raise hell on some of the other mod's topics. Sounds to me like you are just jealous that you can't upload that music folder you mentioned (which probably contains a bunch of illegally obtained tracks).

Well here's some advice on that. If you wish to create a music mod, stick to artists who are open for new ideas and aren't butt hurt about vague borderline copyright issues. This basically means, avoid big publishers and stick to the smaller channels or lesser known artists because they are usually a lot more liberal with their conditions. Like I said before, check out their website/channel or send them a message. Don't know what your music track list consists of but I guess you could still try that. They will usually be happy for you to promote/advertise their music to a group of people who would otherwise not have known about their music. This works for smaller and less popular games, I'm not so sure about a bigger game where your mod could get extremely popular, then you enter murky waters. But it's literally impossible for you to get in trouble because if it turns out afterwards that they maybe changed their minds and/or they have a problem with it, then whoever holds the rights can send you a cease and desist order, you remove their track, and that's it, everybody's happy.

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/15/2014 6:37:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: Unforeseen

This doesn't violate copyright does it? You are technically 'redistributing' copy protected material. Don't want anyone getting in legal trouble here.

To help 'quash' all this (maybe once and for all even) here is an article, although lengthy, that basically breaks down the legalities of FAN-BASED PRODUCTIONS.
Read the article here: http://spreadablemedia.org/essays/kosnik/#.U53hT7FHSHg

This excerpt basically says it all:
"fans who produce their own versions of mass-media texts�fan films and videos, fan fiction, fan art and icons, music remixes and mash-ups, and game mods, for example�take comfort and refuge in one rule of thumb: as long as they do not sell their works, they will be safe from legal persecution. Conventional wisdom holds that companies and individuals that own the copyrights to mass-media texts will not sue fan producers, as long as the fans do not make money from their works (for instance, Scalzi 2007 and Taylor 2007)."

�Free� fan labor (fan works distributed for no payment) means �free� fan labor (fans may revise, rework, remake, and otherwise remix mass-culture texts without dreading legal action or other interference from copyright holders)."

So if you're not making money off it, you're safe. Elliot and Matrix Games cannot use say, Star Wars
character portraits (as was originally done unintentionally, but since removed from the modding guide).
They have to either use their own original artwork/music, or receive written permission or pay royalties
to an original artist. This is because they 'sell' and 'make profit' on the game. Pretty clear!

@Unforeseen & @BlackAlpha

In our Star Trek mods, to avoid problems, our mods and descriptions contain both credit to any/all participants and the following statement or something similar:

Copyright Notice and Disclaimer

This is a fan-made game modification. Star Trek is owned by CBS studios Inc. and Paramount Pictures. I do not make any profit from this material nor do I accept donations.

I cannot accept responsibility for any damage that may be caused by downloading these files. All files are virus checked.

Happy Trekking

Hope this settles the debate on music/artwork/etcetera in Fan-made mods

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/15/2014 6:56:22 PM

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Thanks for the input. In my case, though, I force people to read the file that contains all of that information. In the first post I refer to it as well. That's another way of doing it. :)

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/15/2014 7:08:17 PM

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I fully agree BlackAlpha. Just wanted to settle things!

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/16/2014 2:52:42 AM

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Startrek and Mass effect mods on here ARE fan labor. This mod is NOT. There is no labor or modification, the tracks are not being used in a specific way that can be classified as a fan production. This is no different than uploading the tracks to pirate bay. BlackAlpha has simply taken the tracks and placed them into a folder, uploaded it and made it accessible to pretty much anyone. This means that anyone can download the files, rather than pay the owner for their own copy. Thus an act of online piracy. UNLESS BlackAlpha has permission which he has failed to point out since the beginning. He simply stated he was under the protection of the Fair Use act which i pointed out was false.

Accusing someone of piracy when you have yet to prove that you haven't committed such an act yourself is pretty hypocritical. I keep asking if you have permission, and you keep evading the question. If you got permission from their "website" then why don't you just give me a link to that page so i can see it for myself and we can be done with this rather than going back and forth on something that could have been over with at the very beginning rather than being a huge back and forth.

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/16/2014 4:35:26 AM

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Nope, wrong again. These tracks are either free or can be redistributed/remixed/whatever as long as the artist is advertised and no money is made off it. But go ahead and keep grasping at straws.

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/16/2014 8:24:56 AM

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Thanks for your mod BlackAlpha.
(In my country if you dont make any money it is legal).

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/16/2014 8:52:16 AM

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Thanks, BlackAlpha.

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/16/2014 10:50:47 AM

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"The distinction between what is fair use and what is infringement in a particular case will not always be clear or easily defined. There is no specific number of words, lines, or notes that may safely be taken without permission. Acknowledging the source of the copyrighted material does not substitute for obtaining permission."

http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html

You were saying?

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/16/2014 1:15:23 PM

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Unforeseen if you really care so much about the law why you even sit here arguing over fan made not even copyrighted music being redistributed
go to pirate forums or something state the copyright stuff there not somewhere where its not even violated because it was never even added to copyright protection or any other company like that

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RE: Black's Sci-fi Music Mod - 6/16/2014 1:34:18 PM

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This is not fan made ponasozis.

Not one single person has yet posted any sources to support the claims that have been made about the tracks not being copyright protected or not requiring permission for redistribution. I have repeatedly asked, to which i am responded with insults. I'm beginning to think this fellow is actually a pirate, and I'm wondering if he even has a legal copy of Distant Worlds...

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