eyegore
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So the alien just happened to evacuate into the escape pod when Ripley set the self-destruct? Total coincidence? And the queen in Aliens just happened to want to visit the space ship?
Those creatures obviously weren't hugely intelligent per se, but they were smart enough to understand unfamiliar threats against their survival.
You totally lost me with this. The alien didn't waltz into the escape pod, Ripley forced it in. Rewatch the scene or better yet, read the book, which is far more in depth than the movie. Again, book or movie, the actual Alien was Cargo...discovered by Ripley's team. The actual Space fairing race that hauled that Cargo is called The Engineers. Distinctly humanoid--as the main plot of it'd prequel--which there will be a 3 film trilogy- was WE-as humans were created by the Engineers (as seen in the opening where the Engineer drinks the fluid, falls into what is clearly Niagra Falls and the special effects show it's DNA being destroyed and reworked to create Man (or us). The actual aliens in the Cargo was originally intended for Earth BTW-to destroy us as a creation gone wrong, and the film ends with the Scientist not taking the logical safe path to escape back to earth but the illogical path to seek out the Engineers to see why they changed thier minds about us.
Although the next two movies are yet done The engineer tearing off david's head should give viewers a clue as to what that "why" is, as throughout the movie Humans look down upon thier own creation (David) and repeatedly disbarage him throughout. The Engineer seeing this creation showing even a worse reaction and sees a greater abomination and immediately destroyed it.
The alien itself , and it's intelligence is shown as no more than a typical insect with a basic "Hive' instinct and it's desire to defend it--though there is a scene in aliens where Ripley threatens to burn the eggs if the queen doesn't back off this along doesn't indicate anymore intelligence than the same lesson taught to a family dog. Instinct drives it's actions, like most creatures on this planet and is not to be confused with "reasoning' of an intelligence equal or even a bit below our own.
More interesting and if your seeking more concrete proof that even the Alien World is filled with Religion I'll copy paste an insert from an interview with the director:
Through Shaw and Holloway's investigations, we learn that the Engineers not only created human life, they supervised our development. (How else are we to explain the numerous images of Engineers in primitive art, complete with star diagram showing us the way to find them?) We have to assume, then, that for a good few hundred thousand years, they were pretty happy with us. They could have destroyed us at any time, but instead, they effectively invited us over; the big pointy finger seems to be saying 'Hey, guys, when you're grown up enough to develop space travel, come see us.' Until something changed, something which not only messed up our relationship with them but caused their installation on LV-223 to be almost entirely wiped out.
From the Engineers' perspective, so long as humans retained that notion of self-sacrifice as central, we weren't entirely beyond redemption. But we went and screwed it all up, and the film hints at when, if not why: the Engineers at the base died two thousand years ago. That suggests that the event that turned them against us and led to the huge piles of dead Engineers lying about was one and the same event. We did something very, very bad, and somehow the consequences of that dreadful act accompanied the Engineers back to LV-223 and massacred them.
If you have uneasy suspicions about what 'a bad thing approximately 2,000 years ago' might be, then let me reassure you that you are right. An astonishing excerpt from the Movies.com interview with Ridley Scott:
Movies.com: We had heard it was scripted that the Engineers were targeting our planet for destruction because we had crucified one of their representatives, and that Jesus Christ might have been an alien. Was that ever considered?
Ridley Scott: We definitely did, and then we thought it was a little too on the nose. But if you look at it as an “our children are misbehaving down there” scenario, there are moments where it looks like we’ve gone out of control, running around with armor and skirts, which of course would be the Roman Empire. And they were given a long run. A thousand years before their disintegration actually started to happen. And you can say, "Let's send down one more of our emissaries to see if he can stop it." Guess what? They crucified him.
So again I do not agree with the assumption any race can be made with DW. Governmeent types are shallow bonus's as is what you can actually tinker with in regards to growth rate, agression level or whatnot. You cannot inject any form of ideal that is religious based, there can be no EMOFS church or whatever. And most popular sci-fi fiction from alien to 2001 reject talking kittens as an option to define a race. It uses instead idealogical and religous slants to fuel the differences.
The black slime in the movie reacts to the nature and intent of the being that wields it, and the humans in the film didn't even know that they WERE wielding it. That's why it remained completely inert in David's presence, and why he needed a human proxy in order to use the stuff to create anything. The black goo could read no emotion or intent from him, because he was an android.
Shaw's comment when the urn chamber is entered - 'we've changed the atmosphere in the room' - is deceptively informative. The psychic atmosphere has changed, because humans - tainted, Space Jesus-killing humans - are present. The slime begins to engender new life, drawing not from a self-sacrificing Engineer but from human hunger for knowledge, for more life, for more everything. Little wonder, then, that it takes serpent-like form.
< Message edited by eyegore -- 6/22/2014 1:27:18 AM >
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