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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 5:11:07 PM   
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WW2 joke, and not we didn't dominated them in 1940 it was the main problem. The german get much trouble in defense we got in our it's what I'm saying.




well liddle hart and many others were of this opinion ( re:ww2 ) and 'fortune favored the bold'.

as for this game I fail to see cohesion in your part, lets see how it ends...ball is round...



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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 5:57:02 PM   
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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 5:58:19 PM   
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WW2 joke, and not we didn't dominated them in 1940 it was the main problem. The german get much trouble in defense we got in our it's what I'm saying.




well liddle hart and many others were of this opinion ( re:ww2 ) and 'fortune favored the bold'.

as for this game I fail to see cohesion in your part, lets see how it ends...ball is round...





well, u'll have to understand you have to play to win,

all that second half, french team played as if they had all the time in the world...leisurely...

anyway better luck next time...

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 5:59:17 PM   
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Frustrating defeat, anyway it's still better than last WC


yes - better luck next time... I remember feeling sorry for the one u lost when Platini was a player. That was losing in 'style'...

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 6:04:38 PM   
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Frustrating defeat, anyway it's still better than last WC


yes - better luck next time... I remember feeling sorry for the one u lost when Platini was a player. That was losing in 'style'...


you don't remember the last one when we lost all our game and got the player on strike

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 6:05:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've watched most of the games so far and this went to the worst 3. Team France looked like it more or less gave up somewhere around 80 minutes... As if they were morally beaten, some of the players even stopped running... Huge, huge contrast to the fast paced and very enjoyable Brazil-Chile, USA-Belgium and Argentine-Swiss where both teams gave their everything to the last minute.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 6:22:44 PM   
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Frustrating defeat, anyway it's still better than last WC

Yes. I feel for you and Francois, and the other French fans. But I really must say;

Woof !! This one was strange. Lowe had Muller, Kroos, Ozil, and Klose (Schurrle) facing Matuidi, Valbuena, Benzema, and Griezman. Gotze was still out, as was Podolski. This match was almost a midfield rugby scrum. Neither team showed much breakaway aggressiveness, butt … Very surprisingly, given their lineup, when Germany spread, they played the field and the creases very, very well. Kinda guess Lowe knows what he’s doing.

Sad for France, but that’s futbol. Now Germany has to face (likely) Brasil. A very different side, with a very different paradigm. For US folks it’s like the 1985 Chicago Bears facing the 1981 SF 49ers.Woof !!!

Damn good futbol going on down here.


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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 6:23:20 PM   
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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 6:30:31 PM   
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Now it's break time before Brazil and Colombia. The country has and continues to shut down when Brazil plays. Supposedly some stores reopen in malls after the game. I'm off to a BBQ to see the game.

Oh, yes. I'm doing a typical US 4th of July BBQ, but my TVs are thundering the Brazil/Colombia game. I've actually got some of my Alabama neighbors interested in what's going on. Go figure.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 6:30:38 PM   
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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 6:43:26 PM   
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I've watched most of the games so far and this went to the worst 3. Team France looked like it more or less gave up somewhere around 80 minutes... As if they were morally beaten, some of the players even stopped running... Huge, huge contrast to the fast paced and very enjoyable Brazil-Chile, USA-Belgium and Argentine-Swiss where both teams gave their everything to the last minute.


Sorry,

cannot go with this comment. IMHO it was a game on even level, with twi teams which both were very disciplined, not allowing too many chances for the other side. Germany was lucky to score early, but France did keep the pressure high until the very end. Remember the great chance Benzema had in minute 94, a few seconds before the end. They definitely did not give up this until it was over.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 6:48:54 PM   
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Woof !! This one was strange. Lowe had Muller, Kroos, Ozil, and Klose (Schurrle) facing Matuidi, Valbuena, Benzema, and Griezman. Gotze was still out, as was Podolski. This match was almost a midfield rugby scrum. Neither team showed much breakaway aggressiveness, butt … Very surprisingly, given their lineup, when Germany spread, they played the field and the creases very, very well. Kinda guess Lowe knows what he’s doing.


Well,

here in Germany the discussion before the game mainly went about the role of Philipp Lahm. Up to the match against Algerie, he had his position in the defensive midfield, but from his origin he´s a right defender - and he´s one of the best worldwide on this position. With this match Loew did put him on his original position, and switched Mertesacker for Boateng in the defense center. These changes made a huge difference, because our defense today was rock-solid - something we did not see too often before. This allowed him to bring both Khedira and Schweinsteiger for the defensive midfield, and they were the strategic directors for the offense.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 7:33:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		This next match is going to be awesome! I feel a Colombia victory but that may just be because a co-worker is Colombian and thus I've kept a close eye on Colombia this Cup. Brazil just hasn't impressed yet, but of course today could be the day they pull it all together.

Germany - France felt odd. I couldn't say it was a poor game but somehow it felt off a bit. Germans did enough to win but they will need more in the next match.

Perhaps it's my Arsenal showing, but lord I feel like the announcers have it in for Mesut Ozil in this tournament. He hasn't been excellent, I grant, but in most games he has had several accurate, well-weighted "Ozil" passes that could have been assists. For example, his final run and pass at his intended target's feet that was just plain whiffed on. To hear the announcers, though, he is going to single-handedly take Germany out of the Cup. For example, when a pass to him was overcooked and too long, Ozil chases it down into the corner and the announcer testily says something disparaging about "Mesut Ozil turns his back to goal."

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 8:13:12 PM   
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Well,

here in Germany the discussion before the game mainly went about the role of Philipp Lahm. Up to the match against Algerie, he had his position in the defensive midfield, but from his origin he´s a right defender - and he´s one of the best worldwide on this position. With this match Loew did put him on his original position, and switched Mertesacker for Boateng in the defense center. These changes made a huge difference, because our defense today was rock-solid - something we did not see too often before. This allowed him to bring both Khedira and Schweinsteiger for the defensive midfield, and they were the strategic directors for the offense.

Good thoughts. And yes, midfield defense was solid, and you all haven't seen much of that yet. I like what you think about midfield, that's important, but Khedira and Schweinsteiger are going to have to go up against some nasty midfielders that also play striker. Your game will open deeper and wider. Think you can do it, but the soccer gods will rule.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 8:27:04 PM   
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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 8:44:53 PM   
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Yes. I feel for you and Francois, and the other French fans.


Don't be sorry for me, I didn't follow the world cup, and besides, today was blackcurrant wine day, which takes precedence over football.

So, OT inside this OT thread, here's the recipe, just in case you grow blackcurrant in Alabama (or in Chile).

Harvest the blackcurrant as late as possible, when the fruits begin falling on the ground, the sweeter the better.
Crush them gently in a large pot. Don't overdo this, you just need to break the skin of the fruit, so that it mixes with the wine, if you squash them to pulp, the wine will taste sour.
Add red wine, one liter of wine per kilogram of fruit. The wine should not be too strong (12% or so). This year, I'm using Bourgogne grand ordinaire, which is a light burgundy made with pinot noir.
Add a few leaves of blackcurrant (it makes the thing tastier)
Cover, and let the mixture macerate for two or three days. When it is ready, it should no longer smell of wine, just of fruit (three days are usually enough, I know people who wait for a week).

Press the mixture, filter through a cloth or something thin, so that you only keep the juice
Add 750 g of sugar per litre of juice
Put on the oven, low fire, until it boils, turn with a wooden spoon so that it doesn't stick
Let it boil lightly for about five minutes
Remove from the fire, let it cool, and bottle. Don't close the bottles
Leave the bottles for a week in a cool and dark place, then cork them.
The wine is ready, you can drink it now, but it will get better over time, and will keep for two and three years in a cool and dark place (don't lay the bottles flat, keep them standing)

You can drink it with water, it is refreshing, and the cooking éliminates most of the alcohool, so it is safe for kids and teatotalers.
You can also mix it with white wine or champagne, it is then called "kir", and is nice before a meal
Some people use it as a base for deserts, sauces, anything blackcurrant flavored.


Francois


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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 8:54:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wow, Brazil came to play today. This is a wild match, but the Selecao are almost unlucky to not be ahead by 2 or 3. Still, the brave (foolhardy?) approach by Colombia has certainly made this exciting to watch.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 9:02:49 PM   
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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 10:49:40 PM   
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The Brazil v Colombia was poorly officiated as he blew the whistle for fouls, but didn't use any cards until things were out of control and the game was a do what you want to do affair since there were no consequences. Neymar is in the hospital for tests.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 11:37:43 PM   
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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/4/2014 11:45:37 PM   
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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/5/2014 4:09:29 AM   
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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/5/2014 6:45:19 AM   
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Brazil v Germany next! No road to a championship is ever supposed to be easy.

The Brazil v Colombia was poorly officiated as he blew the whistle for fouls, but didn't use any cards until things were out of control and the game was a do what you want to do affair since there were no consequences. Neymar is in the hospital for tests.
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Pretty amazing fact considering they have won the World Cup 8 times between them - and in the case of Brazil have appeared in every finals, and Germany have only missed a couple (iirc) - these two footballing powerhouses have only ever met once before in the World Cup!

2002 Final Brazil 2-0 Germany


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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/5/2014 9:46:08 AM   
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Neymar has been ruled out of playing any more in the Cup as he has a cracked vertebrae.


Huge loss, and the play was poor by the Colombian, knee up right into the back. Yikes.

This takes some of the creativity out of Brasil, but what does it give? Who will step up and what different tone will the game take with Neymar out?

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/5/2014 9:55:25 AM   
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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/5/2014 5:58:07 PM   
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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/5/2014 9:55:21 PM   
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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/5/2014 10:38:40 PM   
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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/5/2014 10:47:57 PM   
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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 7/5/2014 11:01:22 PM   
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