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RE: RIP??? - 7/7/2014 2:32:42 AM   
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Saw the Vulcan up close and personal when it was still in service and came over to display at the Toronto Air Show.
I was stationed at CFB Trenton where the Vulcan and other birds practiced and flew the Toronto mission. Sitting at the end of the
runway just outside the perimeter fence when the Vulcan took off and put in full power for a steep climb - the very ground trembled.
The power and noise of those engines was incredible.

No wonder they guzzled so much fuel that the Falklands raid required something like 8 air-to-air refuelling sessions per Vulcan! That
just made the raid more remarkable.

Didn't we refuel them? Or let them refuel in the Azores?

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RE: RIP??? - 7/7/2014 2:43:47 AM   
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Saw the Vulcan up close and personal when it was still in service and came over to display at the Toronto Air Show.
I was stationed at CFB Trenton where the Vulcan and other birds practiced and flew the Toronto mission. Sitting at the end of the
runway just outside the perimeter fence when the Vulcan took off and put in full power for a steep climb - the very ground trembled.
The power and noise of those engines was incredible.

No wonder they guzzled so much fuel that the Falklands raid required something like 8 air-to-air refuelling sessions per Vulcan! That
just made the raid more remarkable.

Didn't we refuel them? Or let them refuel in the Azores?


There's an excellent BBC Documentary on Youtube on just this; Last raid of the Vulcans

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RE: RIP??? - 7/7/2014 7:33:57 PM   
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RE: RIP??? - 7/7/2014 7:36:24 PM   
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RE: RIP??? - 7/7/2014 7:44:19 PM   
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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 2:14:40 AM   
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So this is where those spare planes are





EnZed markings?

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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 2:41:40 AM   
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So this is where those spare planes are





EnZed markings?


NZ Barracudas????

These are FAA aircraft.



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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 6:33:50 PM   
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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 6:40:07 PM   
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So this is where those spare planes are





Definitely NOT Cleveland. Too picturesque.

The eaves have huge overhangs and many roofs are very steeply pitched and there are quite a few very oddly designed two story houses with 15x15 ft first floors.

NOT the US. It must rain or snow like Hell there. Probably Southern NZ somewhere.

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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 6:48:33 PM   
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Planes in back have 4 blade props.

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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 6:55:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		No, I take it back. I think those are flying greenhouses in back with wings folded.

Fulmars. Not sure why they have 4 blade props.


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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 6:58:01 PM   
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Australia? South Africa? New Zealand?

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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 7:04:41 PM   
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No, I take it back. I think those are flying greenhouses in back with wings folded.

Fulmars. Not sure why they have 4 blade props.

The shape of those canopies makes me think of some P-39 type. Specifically, look at the one 2nd from the right, which is the right-most one where you can see the canopy.

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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 7:21:32 PM   
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No, I take it back. I think those are flying greenhouses in back with wings folded.

Fulmars. Not sure why they have 4 blade props.

The shape of those canopies makes me think of some P-39 type. Specifically, look at the one 2nd from the right, which is the right-most one where you can see the canopy.


There is a big air inlet under the prop. Not a P-39. Plus there is the small matter of the wings.

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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 7:23:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Somebody here will know the model number of the uglofortresses with the four blade prop AND the name of the bar partly hidden by the third big tree on the left.

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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 7:25:40 PM   
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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 7:37:06 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 7:43:45 PM   
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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 8:33:23 PM   
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Kanoya, in SW Kyushu appears lightly garrisoned so we try a Pegasus Bridge thingy.



I think the bridge analogy you're looking for is the bridge at Arnhem, Allied dog.

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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 10:25:52 PM   
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No, I take it back. I think those are flying greenhouses in back with wings folded.

Fulmars. Not sure why they have 4 blade props.

The shape of those canopies makes me think of some P-39 type. Specifically, look at the one 2nd from the right, which is the right-most one where you can see the canopy.


There is a big air inlet under the prop. Not a P-39. Plus there is the small matter of the wings.


Wings, schmings. Those things reduce dive speed.

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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 11:02:32 PM   
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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 11:21:43 PM   
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Barracuda for sure. Ugly things.








Yes, you are right. 4 blade prop. High mounted tail. Ugly wing folding system with special drying racks to make dried apricots or something.

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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 11:24:40 PM   
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So this is where those spare planes are





Definitely NOT Cleveland. Too picturesque.

The eaves have huge overhangs and many roofs are very steeply pitched and there are quite a few very oddly designed two story houses with 15x15 ft first floors.

NOT the US. It must rain or snow like Hell there. Probably Southern NZ somewhere.


Brett's Wharf, Hamilton, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
According to one source, the high buildings at top left are the stands at Ascot Racecourse (now Eagle Farm Racecourse).

Another source said that (at least some of) the aircraft were P-40s waiting for reassembly*, while others were aircraft for aircraft carriers (c. 1943)

*i don't think this is correct (i think they misidentified the Barracudas), but that is what the second source said.

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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 11:33:08 PM   
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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 11:35:29 PM   
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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 11:36:57 PM   
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RE: RIP??? - 7/8/2014 11:51:42 PM   
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Why are the lot sizes so freaking small in Brisbane? It's a big country.

HOA rules.

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RE: RIP??? - 7/9/2014 12:21:06 AM   
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No, I take it back. I think those are flying greenhouses in back with wings folded.

Fulmars. Not sure why they have 4 blade props.



The FAA version of the Spitfire - the Seafire - was given a 4 blade prop to get extra acceleration and wind over the wings on take-off.
I don't think the overall performance of the Seafire was better than the Spitfire because of the heavier landing gear and arrester hook,
but clearly the extra lift to get off a short deck was a priority.

I am not aware of any US-built army fighters that used a four-blade prop so I figure that rules out any P-39/P-40 variants.

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RE: RIP??? - 7/9/2014 1:28:45 AM   
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I am not aware of any US-built army fighters that used a four-blade prop so I figure that rules out any P-39/P-40 variants.


Agree that the planes in the pic weren't P-39 or P-40s.

P-47D had 4-blade prop (as did the F4U4 Corsair, but that was not an Army plane). The planes with 4-blade prop in photo aren't P-47s, though.

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RE: RIP??? - 7/9/2014 2:08:29 AM   
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I am not aware of any US-built army fighters that used a four-blade prop so I figure that rules out any P-39/P-40 variants.


Agree that the planes in the pic weren't P-39 or P-40s.

P-47D had 4-blade prop (as did the F4U4 Corsair, but that was not an Army plane). The planes with 4-blade prop in photo aren't P-47s, though.

That settles it, then. They're alien craft piloted by time-traveling cats with laser beams.

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