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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 7/11/2014 12:13:19 PM   
Spidery

 

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Air Losses: 48 Japanese, 17 Allied, 40 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Subs

Near Ambon, Albacore puts a torpedo into Mutsu (7/21/0 damage) she will need some yard time.

Near San Francisco, I-33 puts 3 torpedoes into AO Patoka (6580 tons) and sinks it.

Pacific

Quiet

Burma area

Try a strike at Ledo. Sweep comes in after the bombers and it is a mess with 26 Helens lost and only a single C-47 knocked out on the ground. The sweep itself comes in later and the Ki-43-IIb do quite well against a collection of Hurricance IIb and IIc, Martlet II, P-40E and B-339D.

China

Quiet

Australia

Two CA task force bombard the Australians. On the way out they encounter two subs near Saumlaki. Looks like he may have a lot of subs in that area. The Nagato and Mutsu were heading to Ambon to do some bombardments but Mutsu now needs to head for the yard.

Engineering

Allies expand Cairns to 8.

R&D

P1Y1 to 5/43.

Mitsubishi Ha-43 to 5/44.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 7/11/2014 12:24:43 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		Are those Chinese units in the mountains surrounded? Is there a chance they can flee?

Otherwise, I would use them to train a sentai of bombers and simply bide my time for a month or six. Pin them with something and forget about them for a while...the Chinese are so tough to kill off.

I know you aren't happy with some aspects of your game, but I think you are doing great versus an elite player.

With China gone, Burma will be a real slog fest and should be safe late into the game. The big challenge will come from the Americans up thru Marshalls or along New Guinea and even potentially in the north pacific although General Winter helps there greatly.

What are your defenses at Ponape and Kusaie and Kavieng like? Can you prep a counter invasion force for Kusaie?

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 7/11/2014 12:59:40 PM   
Spidery

 

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Are those Chinese units in the mountains surrounded? Is there a chance they can flee?

Otherwise, I would use them to train a sentai of bombers and simply bide my time for a month or six. Pin them with something and forget about them for a while...the Chinese are so tough to kill off.



They are not all isolated yet but I am working on that.

Difficult to keep up regular bombings as they are close enough to India that he can LRCAP using Lightnings, he has done that once, and it was expensive. I could keep fighters back to contest but that gets expensive. One worry I have is that he could start dropping supply to some of them and then they might become a serious threat. Also, I can't really protect the airfields against night raids by 4E.

I'm keeping up bombardments and expecting attrition to work on them as well. I'm getting about 10 LCU VP a turn just from this so that is 120 devices a day dying off. Every now and then the unit count drops as something dies.

I only launch attacks when the divisions are fully up to strength so the LCU VP loss is probably less than the ops losses bombers would take.

The Corps on the Paoshan/Lashio road I want to eliminate because it controls the hex and I think that interferes with the movement of supply, fuel and oil between Burma and China. It also force me to overstack as I move reinforcements to Burma. I've killed the two small Burmese units that were there so next attack should be more effective.

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I know you aren't happy with some aspects of your game, but I think you are doing great versus an elite player.


Thank-you, it is all a learning experience.

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With China gone, Burma will be a real slog fest and should be safe late into the game. The big challenge will come from the Americans up thru Marshalls or along New Guinea and even potentially in the north pacific although General Winter helps there greatly.

What are your defenses at Ponape and Kusaie and Kavieng like? Can you prep a counter invasion force for Kusaie?



Ponape is well defended, Kusaie poorly, Kavieng could do with some more and I am worried he can land at Namatanai and walk on Kavieng.

I have some engineers and aviation support heading for Aitape and Sorong to start building defenses along the New Guinea coast. I've got a lot of engineers coming free from China and just reaching the ports for shipping out.

Rabaul is a level 9 airfield with 400+ aviation support so I think he won't be able to risk a move within 6 hexes of it until he has Thunderbolts and by then I should have Franks. Once Darwin falls, it will be interesting to see if he sends the 4E to the Pacific or tries to advance in the DEI.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 7/11/2014 1:15:01 PM   
Lowpe


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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 7/11/2014 1:32:45 PM   
Spidery

 

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Status: offline 		Summary of the remaining Chinese forces.

A: Surrounded, 12 units here and I have a division wasted keeping them here. Three artillery units approaching and will start bombarding.

B: Still need to cut the NE and E exits, only 267 enemy AV left with no guns. Have some artillery bombarding and when all the troops have arrived will start attacks.

C: Surrounded, 4 units, they have been without supply for ages and will probably not attack these ever.

D: Surrounded, only 228 enemy AV left in 6 Corps. Three artillery units are bombarding.

E: Surrounded, 3 units, not sure how strong. Have a division moving to reduce this pocket.

F: Surrounded, 5 Corps with only 291 AV left, last deliberate attack achieved a 9::1 result so will collapse soon.

G: Surrounded, 1 unit not sure what it is.

H: Free to move, 1 HQ unit, a recon unit is trying to chase it down and have bombed occasionally.

I: Free to move E or SW, 1 strong Corps and one shattered one, 598 AV. 6 artillery units are reducing this.

J: Free to move except NW and SE. A division is split across the river to prevent break-out in a dangerous direction. 1 Division keeps them occupied but the hex has a 15,000 SL so even that overstacks. 7 Corps and 7 HQ but only 580 AV.

K: Free to move and trying to move onto the road. Three Corps all have been retreated at least once so not sure how strong now.

L: Free to move except SW, 1 Corps. This will probably make it to India but I am just trying to damage it as much as possible before then.

M: Free to move except along the road. 1 Corps 400 AV and 50 guns, I have artillery and am trying to reduce it. Each division heading for Burma should stop here for one attack and then move on.

N: Free to move to the SE but I am closing that hexside with a Division. Once that is closed will try and reduce the forces before he can get any relief there. Contains some American and British base forces so worth extra VP.






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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 7/11/2014 2:45:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I bet he will try to advance in both directions. Why pushin so much towards Darwin if he doesn't want to exploit the position once conquered?
And more if I were him I'd try to open a third front in kuriles or andamanes.
You're doing very well

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 7/11/2014 3:48:10 PM   
Spidery

 

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Air Losses: 1 Japanese, 4 Allied, 1 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Subs

Quiet

Pacific

On Feb 3rd I had two heavy traffic intercepts at 136, 167. This turn I have one at 116, 167. If that is one of the same task forces it is moving to Sydney at 5 hexes per turn. Just in case, I'll drop two subs onto 111, 167 and see if they find anything.

Burma area

Allies have moved over 200 fighters into Ledo.

China

Ki-43-IIb using drop tanks at range 3 manage to shoot down 2 C-47 airlifting supply to the Chinese. That was for 11 aircraft assigned to LRCAP. Nice to confirm can shoot down transports at range 3 occasionally.

Australia

Quiet

Engineering

Quiet

R&D

Quiet

Reinforcements

An 8150 capacity tanker

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 7/11/2014 3:54:40 PM   
Spidery

 

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ORIGINAL: MrBlizzard

I bet he will try to advance in both directions. Why pushin so much towards Darwin if he doesn't want to exploit the position once conquered?
And more if I were him I'd try to open a third front in kuriles or andamanes.
You're doing very well


I will wait and see.

He may be attacking at Darwin because it is about the only place he can attack at the moment without risking carriers, since Burma is being flooded with troops from China. It will only take a couple of months to redeploy the forces used against Darwin to attack elsewhere.

I think it unlikely he will attack the Andamans and am well protected against that. An attack in the Kuriles as soon as winter passes could happen.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 7/11/2014 6:45:44 PM   
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Pacific

I have my subs put perfectly on his two tanker forces near San Francisco (see below) but they fail to attack, curses!


Where are those AMC's when you need them. :)

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 7/11/2014 7:13:21 PM   
Spidery

 

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Air Losses: 2 Japanese, 4 Allied, 1 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Subs

I-33 near San Francisco is attacked and takes 11/0/3 damage so will head back to the yard.

A PB near Iwo-Jima takes a torpedo and at 10/51/5 damage will limp to the nearest port.

Grunion and Trout are attacked near Palembang with Grunion taking a minor hit.

Pacific

A force reported as 2 ships including a CL is spotted 8 hexes East of Maleolap. Could be the precursor to an attack on the Marshalls, a bombardment force, or just poking around to see what search is up. I'll expect the worse.

A task force appears at 111, 167 as expected. Reports as 9 ships, all SC, the two subs there fail to attack.

Burma area

A night strike against Ledo from 15000 feet fails to score any hits.

China

A couple of good attacks on Chinese:
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Ground combat at 80,42 (near Kienko)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 25555 troops, 172 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 794

Defending force 22469 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 502

Japanese adjusted assault: 435

Allied adjusted defense: 91

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
349 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1923 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 267 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
40th Inf Group Brigade
6th Division
36th Infantry Regiment
Korea Army

Defending units:
76th Chinese Corps
56th Chinese Corps
87th Chinese Corps
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Ground combat at 79,45 (near Patung)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 31987 troops, 244 guns, 9 vehicles, Assault Value = 965

Defending force 26115 troops, 103 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 138

Japanese adjusted assault: 712

Allied adjusted defense: 13

Japanese assault odds: 54 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
2548 casualties reported
Squads: 20 destroyed, 139 disabled
Non Combat: 103 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
41st Division
110th Division
3rd Ind.Mixed Brigade

Defending units:
33rd Chinese Corps
98th Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
85th Chinese Corps
90th Chinese Corps


Australia

Quiet

Engineering

Quiet

R&D

Quiet

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 7/12/2014 3:24:50 PM   
Spidery

 

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Air Losses: 11 Japanese, 9 Allied, 2 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Subs

I-31 fails to get an attack on the big task force heading for Sydney. Now confirms as at least 28 xAP and 4 escorting SC.

Pacific

The forces in the Marshalls are now confirmed as carriers and an invasion force. 7 Nells are lost to CAP repeatedly scouting the force, at least they didn't try a suicidal attack. Limitations of the game engine mean I haven't a clue what is actually present, see below. Only the first 8 task forces in the hex are reported on and the report is capped at 10 ships per task force. Among the task forces reported is one with what looks like 2 or 3 fleet carriers and one with CVE.

Burma area

Quiet

China

More progress. Shoot down 2 DC-3 and a C-47 delivering supplies to the Chinese on the Paoshan/Lashio road (Ki-43-IIb using drop tanks and LRCAP at range 3 from Katha).

Australia

Allies try a bombardment attack. I think that goes well:
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Ground combat at Darwin (76,124)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2616 troops, 264 guns, 222 vehicles, Assault Value = 1710

Defending force 35599 troops, 440 guns, 363 vehicles, Assault Value = 961

Japanese ground losses:
125 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 37 (12 destroyed, 25 disabled)


Engineering

Quiet

R&D

Quiet






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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 7/12/2014 3:59:21 PM   
Spidery

 

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ORIGINAL: Feurer Krieg

quote:

Pacific

I have my subs put perfectly on his two tanker forces near San Francisco (see below) but they fail to attack, curses!


Where are those AMC's when you need them. :)


Sunk by gunfire from the Formidable I lost three raiding here earlier when they encountered the Formidable traveling unescorted (oh for some subs then!)

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 7/12/2014 6:16:58 PM   
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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 7/13/2014 6:33:06 PM   
Spidery

 

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Air Losses: 18 Japanese, 8 Allied, 6 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Subs

An xAP carrying part of the 3rd IJN Special CD unit is damaged near Iwo-Jima, 21/61/18/8 damage it is a touch and go whether it can make the nearest port.

A PB fleeing Eniwetok is torpedoed and lost with all hands.

RO-64 tries to tangle with the Marshalls invasion forces and is lost.

Pacific

The forces have moved only a little, it still looks like he only has light carriers here.

14 Nells launch a night attack and manage to put a torpedo into CVE Chenango, no evidence of serious damage.

An ACM is slow to get out of the way and is sunk by a bomb from SBD-3, some 6 Ki-43-IIb tangle with the 25 escorts, they just get one plane through to attack the bombers but then it breaks off due to a mechanical problem.

Some Nells from Rabaul try a night strike at Lunda, some losses and no damage inflicted.

Lightnings sweep a poorly defended Buka, 1 P-38G shot down.

Burma area

Quiet

China

A small corps is destroyed near Patung freeing up an infantry regiment.

Some more C-47 are downed by LRCAP as they try to resupply Chinese. I'm surprised he hasn't done anything about this yet.

Australia

A CA bombardment hits Darwin and nicely targets the artillery:
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Night Naval bombardment of Darwin at 76,124

Japanese Ships
CA Kumano
CA Suzuya
CA Atago

Allied ground losses:
47 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 30 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 40 (3 destroyed, 37 disabled)
Vehicles lost 44 (11 destroyed, 33 disabled)

E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for CA Kumano
CA Kumano firing at 32nd Infantry/C Division
E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for CA Suzuya
CA Suzuya firing at 21/22 Field Regiment
CA Atago firing at 168th Field Artillery Battalion


He launches a bombardment attack and his weakened artillery suffer:
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Ground combat at Darwin (76,124)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2388 troops, 258 guns, 215 vehicles, Assault Value = 1736

Defending force 35561 troops, 440 guns, 363 vehicles, Assault Value = 958

Japanese ground losses:
126 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 36 (26 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 18 (2 destroyed, 16 disabled)


Engineering

Quiet

R&D

Quiet

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 7/13/2014 6:37:37 PM   
Spidery

 

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

He even brought the kitchen sink!


Both for the Nauru Island attack and this attack I have no evidence that he has the American fleet carriers present. He could be holding them back out of sight to strike at KB if it engages. However, I suspect he has them elsewhere and is just waiting to see if KB will respond.

Would it be worth a strike at his invasion? Would the damage inflicted make up for the loss of strategic surprise? Using KB would be risky because of the level of sub infestation and the long routes back for repair.

He didn't immediately attack Maleolap and the other Eastern bases so I suspect he his heading direct for Roi-Namur and Kwajalein. Will be interesting to see.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 7/13/2014 9:16:59 PM   
Spidery

 

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Air Losses: 32 Japanese, 6 Allied, 8 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Subs

RO-68 is badly (72/28/20) damaged by air attack in the Marshalls.

Marshalls

Allied forces move into Kwajalein Island and Roi Namur. A number of midget subs try to interfere but only one gets a shot and that misses. 7 are lost. Bombardments are fierce. Both shock attacks fail but the writing is on the wall for the defenders. Allied losses are light.
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Ground combat at Kwajalein Island (132,115)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1040 troops, 3 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 67

Defending force 3335 troops, 35 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 36

Allied adjusted assault: 4

Japanese adjusted defense: 9

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
1378 casualties reported
Squads: 49 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
163 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
148th Infantry Rgt /1
627th TD Bn /4
3rd AmphTrac Engr Bn /1

Defending units:
4th Raiding Regiment
6th Fleet
Nimur Naval Fortress
Kwajalein Base Force

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Ground combat at Roi-Namur (132,114)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1120 troops, 0 guns, 87 vehicles, Assault Value = 84

Defending force 4032 troops, 28 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 49

Allied adjusted assault: 22

Japanese adjusted defense: 8

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 5)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
1183 casualties reported
Squads: 19 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 17 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 11 (5 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
117 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
24th (Sep) Infantry Rgt /1
2nd USMC Tank Bn /4
2nd AmphTrac Engr Bn /1

Defending units:
Ichiki Det.
7th JNAF Coy
24th Air Flotilla
6th Base Force


Some Nells launch a night attack but there are wildcats on CAP and only 8 press the attack. They launch at the Lexington but all miss (so my theory that the fleet carriers were absent is proven false).

Oklahoma hits a mine at Kwajalein and the defensive guns do okay against the DMS.
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TF 199 encounters mine field at Kwajalein Island (132,115) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

76 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
DMS Wasmuth, Shell hits 18, heavy fires, heavy damage
DMS Chandler, Shell hits 12, heavy fires
BB Oklahoma, Mine hits 1


It also scores a few hits on bombarding and invading ships:
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Allied Ships
BB Resolution
BB Ramillies, Shell hits 2
BB Revenge

Allied Ships
CL Columbia
CL Montpelier
CL Cleveland
CL Nashville, Shell hits 6
CL Phoenix
CL St. Louis
CL Richmond
DD Flusser
DD Cushing
DD Shaw, Shell hits 1
DD Conyngham

Pre-Invasion action off Kwajalein Island (132,115) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

91 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Oklahoma
BB Nevada, Shell hits 1
DD Thracian, Shell hits 1
DD Clark, Shell hits 1
DD Anderson, Shell hits 1
DD Sims, Shell hits 1
xAP William Williams


Solomons, etc.

I send a CA task force of 3 CA and 5 DD to try and bombard Munda. It runs into three separate CL task forces and is bloodied. DD Yudachi and Suzukaze are damaged in the night combat, left in their own task force and sunk during the day. The other forces withdraw damaged but with all fires out.

CL Detroit takes a long lance and 9 gun hits including at least 5 from 20cm shells. With heavy fires, heavy damage she may sink. Otherwise, damage inflicted is minor.

4E hit Rabaul at 20,000 feet. The Endo Det manages to put up 1 plane but scores no hits. Nicks are slaughtered. For some reason there are loads of ops losses.

Burma area

Quiet

China

Continue to reduce forces.

Australia

Nagato does a rather poor bombardment at Darwin:
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Allied ground losses:
99 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)

E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for BB Nagato
BB Nagato firing at 25th Infantry Division
DD Uranami firing at 25th Infantry Division
DD Akatsuki firing at 25th Infantry Division
DD Ariake firing at 32nd Infantry/C Division


4E hit the airfields again.

Engineering

Quiet

R&D

Quiet

Allied Actions

The Lexington was spotted in the Marshalls so it is likely all the carriers are there.

BB California, Arizona, Oklahoma, Indiana, North Carolina, Revenge, Tennessee, Pennsylvania, Resolution, Ramilles, Washington, Nevada, Mississippi, New Mexico, were reported in attacks during the day. So that looks like he has thrown practically all the BB into this attack.

It therefore seems, he has all the forces deployed in the Pacific and I think I will act as though that is going to be his main axis of advance in 1943.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 7/13/2014 9:49:58 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		How are the Marianas shaping up? I think he wants to get there before your Chinese divisions can.

Eniwetok and he is there.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 7/14/2014 7:19:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

How are the Marianas shaping up? I think he wants to get there before your Chinese divisions can.

Eniwetok and he is there.


I think you are correct. Haven't seen the marines, did take a shot at an AO so he may have brought enough along to rearm, refuel and push straight on without stopping.

Saipan, Tinian and Guam have divisions, Pagan has a garrison unit and others that make 300 AV. Rota only has the engineers present. Saipan is just short of forts 6 and the others are forts 4. The dot bases are undefended. A Division is about a week from arriving at Rota. A couple of division thirds are en route to other bases (as they get released/bought out in stages). To max out the defenses I need about 5 divisions and 2 brigades, and nav guard units for the dot bases.

There are no mines present but Guam has enough naval support to rearm mine layers so can lay a few minefields. Is it better to lay one big minefield or cover all the bases?

There is an Air Division at Saipan giving torpedoes to all the bases and there is enough supply at bases.

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It seems to me, that if you can manage a break even or better CV engagement here in the Marshalls you may buy yourself 4 months of building up defenses but if you do seek an engagement bring everything you have.

He may have to clean up the Marshalls before making a grab deeper, too.






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That is pretty good defense in the Marianas. Since you can't predict what base the Allies will go for, I guess mines everywhere with maybe different mine types present at bases you really want to protect?


I thought I was short of mines but found about 450 already loaded on minelayers that I can send to the area. I think I will drop them on the bases where there are CD guns defending because they seem to work best that way.

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Eniwetok should have mines, I believe they are very effective there.


There are a few there, hope for the best.

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It seems to me, that if you can manage a break even or better CV engagement here in the Marshalls you may buy yourself 4 months of building up defenses but if you do seek an engagement bring everything you have.

I doubt I shall contest with the carriers in the Marshalls. Instead I will place them to intervene in the Marianas where they can have some useful LBA support. Currently, I still have two large groups of Kates to upgrade to Jills and only upgraded a few Vals to Judys.

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He may have to clean up the Marshalls before making a grab deeper, too.


Not sure that he needs to. The bases don't seem to pose a significant threat.

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Air Losses: 18 Japanese, 8 Allied, 2 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy: Roi-Namur, Kwajalein Island
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Subs

I-8 is damaged near San Francisco.

A Std-C Tanker is lost near Truk.

Marshalls

Heavy bombardments and an air strike by 170 SBD are sufficient to weaken the defenders at Roi-Namur and Kwajalein Island and both bases fall.

Allied DD Cassin is reported to have taken heavy damage from hitting a mine at Kwajalein Island.

Solomons, etc.

Night bombing at 20000 feet of Rabaul costs 4 planes. The Irvings damage two Liberators but then break off with low ammo.

The damaged cruisers and DD are at Milne Bay and need to decide whether to stop for repairs or move them somewhere safer first.

Burma area

Magwe is bombed at night from 20000 feet and 7 Ki-44-IIc are lost for no damage inflicted. These high altitude night raids are a pain.

China

Allies lose 3 C-47 shot down over China and 4 more to ops (not necessarily in China).

Australia

DD Oyashio discovers a minefield at Darwin and takes 28/46/26 damage. It has a cruise speed of 6 and full speed of 13. If it runs at cruise speed it will be 6 hexes from Fenton and 6 from the nearest friendly port. It therefore may be lost. If it runs at full speed it could move to be 10 hexes from Fenton and under air cover from Dili, but is likely to take additional damage and may sink.

Ise bombards Darwin for very little damage.

Engineering

Saipan forts reach 6.

R&D

Quiet

Rebuilds

Do I rebuild the units destroyed in the Marshalls?

The air flotilla most certainly, one base force that has some DP guns also at once, a normal base force probably worth it.

However, is it worth rebuilding 6th Fleet HQ? It feels like Naval Support will become less important as the perimeter contracts. The "Ichiki Det." is a small unit so is that worthwhile?

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Magwe is bombed at night from 20000 feet and 7 Ki-44-IIc are lost for no damage inflicted. These high altitude night raids are a pain.

What % of the Tojo was on CAP? I think that is best you can hope for with the Irving's without radar...



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Magwe is bombed at night from 20000 feet and 7 Ki-44-IIc are lost for no damage inflicted. These high altitude night raids are a pain.

What % of the Tojo was on CAP? I think that is best you can hope for with the Irving's without radar...


14 Tojo on 80% CAP at 17000 feet. However, some of the damage because he sent three groups at 18000, 20000, 22000 feet for a total of 22 Liberators that reached the target.

Problem at Magwe is that he has few Liberators available but could add the Wellingtons and Blenheims and against them the fighters would probably score. Going to mix up whether to fly or not.

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Problem at Magwe is that he has few Liberators available but could add the Wellingtons and Blenheims and against them the fighters would probably score.


Wrong. You can't shoot down anything at night without night fighters. Blenheims are perfectly safe from your normal fighters.

Try putting 10% on CAP at 8000 feet. That way a few planes will interfere with the attack, but you won't lose a lot of fighters.

The most effective I have been with normal fighters doing night duty is to have them there, but unable to engage the bombers whether because of altitude or because of time. I don't lose any fighters, and the bombing runs are greatly ineffective -- at least so far -- as long as there is AA present and even better balloons.

I got to the point where it is simply counterproductive to fly any night CAP, and just pull everything back and rely upon AA. Unfortunately, sometimes there are troops or ships or something you need to protect. Then, take your lumps and smile. And since you are a JFB this is excellent training for later on in the game.




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Wrong. You can't shoot down anything at night without night fighters. Blenheims are perfectly safe from your normal fighters.


That has not been my experience. Against Blenheims, and maybe Wellingtons, they do okay - not a mass slaughter but a 1::1 or better result. In fact, I think I was doing okay against 4E coming in at normal altitudes (i.e. less than a 4::1 loss ratio). It is bombing from 15000+ feet that is a problem.

Also, things are worse since I got better radar - now the combats last long enough for me to lose many planes, previously night air-air combat was over almost immediately.

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That has not been my experience. Against Blenheims, and maybe Wellingtons, they do okay - not a mass slaughter but a 1::1 or better result. In fact, I think I was doing okay against 4E coming in at normal altitudes (i.e. less than a 4::1 loss ratio). It is bombing from 15000+ feet that is a problem.


You are doing better than me then. Here is the first of eventually 17 raids at night on Magwe with a heavy IJA night CAP. I lost over 17 planes A2A plus heavy op losses, but I did manage to destroy 1 Bleheim eventually. But I put that down to fog of war....

The Blenheims can't shoot you down very much because their guns are pitiful rifle caliber mgs.




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Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 27
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 16
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 3
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 7

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged


Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Blenheim IV bombing from 3000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Air Losses: 2 Japanese, 15 Allied, 0 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Subs

RO-68 sinks from previous damage sustained.

Ro-64, near Roi-Namur, is damaged by carrier planes and will head back to the barn.

Marshalls

Quiet

Solomons, etc.

Quiet

Burma area

More night strikes at Magwe from altitude, only 2 Ki-44-IIc lost. 2 B-24D lost on the day but may be from here or at Darwin.

China

Allies lose 2 C-47 shot down over China (not sure why he lets this continue).

Australia

Darwin airfield hit and Allies launch a deliberate attack. Excellent result as the defenders hold their positions.
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Ground combat at Darwin (76,124)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 70928 troops, 1188 guns, 970 vehicles, Assault Value = 1945

Defending force 35864 troops, 440 guns, 363 vehicles, Assault Value = 977

Allied adjusted assault: 1663

Japanese adjusted defense: 3234

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1705 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 221 disabled
Non Combat: 27 destroyed, 50 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 101 (18 destroyed, 83 disabled)
Vehicles lost 40 (4 destroyed, 36 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
3645 casualties reported
Squads: 99 destroyed, 365 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 51 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 24 disabled
Guns lost 83 (4 destroyed, 79 disabled)
Vehicles lost 37 (3 destroyed, 34 disabled)

Assaulting units:
4th Armoured Brigade
32nd Infantry Division
2/10th Armoured Regiment
2nd Australian/A Division
641st Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion
2nd Australian/B Division
25th Infantry Division
5th Australian/A Division
3rd Army Tank Brigade
3rd Australian Brigade
5th Australian/C Division
24th Infantry Division
5th Australian/B Division
2nd Australian/C Division
21/22 Field Regiment
30th Field Artillery Regiment
108th Anti Tank Regiment
2nd Medium Regiment
Southwest Pacific
A/B Battery Heavy Coastal Artillery Regiment
13th Australian Hvy AA Regiment
2nd Australian Hvy AA Regiment
168th Field Artillery Battalion
1st Medium Regiment
III Australian
109th Anti Tank Regiment
13th Field Regiment
2/16th Field Regiment
II Australian
Northern Territory
G/H Battery Heavy Coastal Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
48th Division
14th Tank Regiment
16th Division
56th Engr Rgt /2
31st Field AA Battalion
205th Ship Eng Coy
14th Army
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
310th Ship Eng Coy
110th Ship Eng Coy
21st Ind.AA Gun Co
21st Fld AA Gun Co
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
12th Ind.AA Gun Co
31st Ind.AA Gun Co
88th JAAF AF Coy
11th Ind.AA Gun Co
5th Air Defense AA Regiment
13th Ind.AA Gun Co
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
28th JNAF AF Unit /1


Interesting that his divisions are attacking in thirds, has he messed up upgrades?

Engineering

Uruppu-Jima airfield to 2. Sabang airfield to 3.

R&D

Quiet

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