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Self Sealing Fuel Tanks - 7/21/2014 6:02:58 AM   
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RE: Self Sealing Fuel Tanks - 7/21/2014 12:16:04 PM   
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RE: Self Sealing Fuel Tanks - 7/21/2014 1:42:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I wonder if self sealing tanks were taken into consideration in plane statistics.

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RE: Self Sealing Fuel Tanks - 7/21/2014 2:19:42 PM   
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RE: Self Sealing Fuel Tanks - 7/21/2014 2:27:15 PM   
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RE: Self Sealing Fuel Tanks - 7/21/2014 2:40:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think that would be part of it, along with the steel plate behind the pilot. I've read histories where pilots use to fly with a helmet as well and they would put it UNDER the seat (as there was no steel there) but that was in bombers.

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RE: Self Sealing Fuel Tanks - 7/21/2014 3:27:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think the shot fuel tank in the video was filled with fuel or water(the last shot where someone pokes a hole with a cartridge).

I think self-sealing tanks worked mostly against shrapnel and light calibre rounds. The sealing process took time.

In WitPAE afaik all planes with self-sealing fuel tanks have armor: 1 but not necessarily the other way around, some that didn't like H8K have armour rating 1.

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RE: Self Sealing Fuel Tanks - 7/21/2014 4:03:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I had watched a vid some time ago -- probably seen by most people here. I think it was from a German gun camera.

In it a P-47 was hit and a large fire resulted. After a few seconds, the fire was out, and fuel could be seen fanning out. After a few more seconds, this stopped and the 47 pulled away.

It was rather amazing to watch.

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RE: Self Sealing Fuel Tanks - 7/21/2014 9:24:33 PM   
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probably seen by most people here.


Awe... I missed it.

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RE: Self Sealing Fuel Tanks - 7/22/2014 6:29:12 AM   
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Fw-190 (von Hinton) vs La-5, Fw-190 (Kurvenkampf)vs P-47 (saved by self Sealing Fuel Tanks) in a long vertical tunring fight, Fw-190 (Kurvenkampf) vs P-51 (Acrobatics), USAAF Capt DW Johnson Johnson in unknown plane (from flight characteristics I'd say p-47) vs FW-190 ace (obvious).

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RE: Self Sealing Fuel Tanks - 7/22/2014 10:51:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry to ruin the party again but the P-47s used in Europe didn't have wing fuel tanks. Only P-47N did. (source: wiki and David Donald's American Warplanes of World War II, P-47 cut-away/explosion picture on page 225 and text on page 227).

I think what is seen on the video is either an incendiary or more likely explosive shell that burns where it hit.

edit: films of the time were very IR sensitive so it perhaps would have looked less spectacular to a naked eye or modern cameras.

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RE: Self Sealing Fuel Tanks - 7/22/2014 12:27:28 PM   
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RE: Self Sealing Fuel Tanks - 7/22/2014 1:12:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dr.hal

I think it is reflected in the durability of the aircraft.


I think so also...GP


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