Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Unforeseen

Well damn you got my support lol. No point in continuing URM :)

Since your taking suggestions... maybe others will agree with this idk but i think that the Death Ray shouldn't even be in the game...or at least nerfed down to a more reasonable end game weapon. The kind of damage it does is absurd for game play purposes.

Also something needs to be done about planet destroying weapons. I would hate for them to NOT be in the game at all, and i do think it should be an endgame level technology...but the way that you get it needs work. IMO, because realistically any weapon should be able to destroy a planet. At least in the case of an energy weapon. You just have to have a good enough power source and a weapon that can reliably handle that amount of power. As a suggestion we could add a planet destroyer at the end of every tech tree. With a relatively expensive research cost.

Edit: This will leave me with enough time to start working on my Music Mod :)

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ORIGINAL: Sithuk

Any plans to resolve the pacing of the early game on pre-warp starts where the players sits for a relatively prolonged time just beelining the Warp bubble then Gerax drive? Locarnus did some interesting work in that area. With high research cost games the pre-warp drive game could be made shorter and still be relevant and interesting.

I would ask that you consider first and foremost the impact on the AI before creating a change. Please don't introduce a change if it puts the AI at a disadvantage.

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ORIGINAL: Unforeseen

Im personally against shortening the prewarp stage, i just wish there was more to do during the phase.

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Problem found. What are you Icemania? A casual?

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In my opinion, the "consolidation" techs (Meridian shields, hyperfusion reactors etc) should be violently murdered and buried in a shallow grave. They kill variety and make the game both visually boring and predictable. I would suggest following Locarnus' example and removing these technologies, extending the abilities of its predecessors to fill the niche, or weakening them and placing them alongside their former prerequisite as another "specialization" path.

For example;

For reactors, the root tech would be "space reactors", that would be directly upgraded to "fission reactors", which in turn would have two techs which improve its efficiency. Following that, it would branch off to "Fusion reactors" as the efficiency option, "Hyperfusion reactors" which would be raw power option, and "Quantum reactors" as a middle ground. In this example, you could also set another gas, maybe Tyderios, to be a fuel for Hyperfusion reactors so you could diversify your fuel sources and use different reactors for different ship types. Civilian ships would use fusion, non-combat state ships would use quantum reactors, and combat ships would use hyperfusion. I think this could be very interesting and improve the game in a tangible way.

What do you think about this idea?

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ORIGINAL: ParagonExile

Hey Lurchi, I just made a post for Icemania's mod, and I wanted to get your opinion as well.

This is a repost of what I just rote;

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ORIGINAL: Icemania

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ORIGINAL: ParagonExile

Hey Lurchi, I just made a post for Icemania's mod, and I wanted to get your opinion as well.

This is a repost of what I just rote;

Now this is the right place ...

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ORIGINAL: Unforeseen
Since your taking suggestions... maybe others will agree with this idk but i think that the Death Ray shouldn't even be in the game...or at least nerfed down to a more reasonable end game weapon. The kind of damage it does is absurd for game play purposes.

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ORIGINAL: lurchi
About the AI, I sure do think about this. I'll bring more diversity into Universe, but the research paths stay quite simple, actually. Also we now can take the AI by the hand using the Research Order system. I hope Icemania will help with that, he's quite involved with that matter.

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ORIGINAL: Unforeseen

OMG that is EPIC!!!

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ORIGINAL: Unforeseen

One of the things that makes this mode interesting to me is the variables placed on every empire in the game during the phase regarding pirates.
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on the other hand it helps players who exploit things like tax levels to give themselves a huge boost in population and tax gain... because the AI won't be "as far" behind.

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ORIGINAL: lurchi
There should be a penalty for setting the taxrate to 0. The higher birthrate suggests people have more free time for , so what about the populace slowly getting lazy causing the planets research points and construction speed to drop. Would be no problem for new colonies with low population, but sure a big problem for high populace worlds and especially at game start.

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ORIGINAL: ParagonExile

If I might make one more suggestion, try coming up with unique tech names for each tech, it adds a ton of personality and makes the tree much more interesting than if you just use "enhanced" or "advanced" for everything.

Just my 2 cents. Hope it goes well!

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ORIGINAL: Icemania

Actually I've balance tested the Death Ray. It needs a buff ... not a nerf.

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ORIGINAL: Icemania

What I'd really like is a Super Weapon for each and every branch of the Weapons tech tree.

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ORIGINAL: lurchi

We think very similar about the planet destroyers, actually. I wanted to make a planet buster as endtech for the energy weapons, rockets and torpedoes. At first it seemed like a good idea, but there's a big problem. The game only knows one single planet destroying weapon. There are no templates for planet destroyers at all so we can't take the various races by the hand to show them how to do it. I'm afraid this won't work out without some help from Elliot.

We beseech thee, O Elliot.

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ORIGINAL: Unforeseen

Icemania you tested the death ray against torpedoes. Not only are they completely different weapons categorically but torpedoes are actually noted as being OVERPOWERED to begin with. Not a very good example.

Better to test the DR against other beam weapons like the phaser and assault blaster.

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ORIGINAL: Icemania

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ORIGINAL: lurchi
About the AI, I sure do think about this. I'll bring more diversity into Universe, but the research paths stay quite simple, actually. Also we now can take the AI by the hand using the Research Order system. I hope Icemania will help with that, he's quite involved with that matter.

Certainly will.

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ORIGINAL: Icemania

Please be careful with weapons that require massive investments of research in other chains. I'm not necessarily against that, but to justify that extra cost, there needs to be a benefit. A good example in Vanilla was Torpedo Bombers, where you also have to research Missiles and Missile Bombers to an extent i.e. in addition to Torpedoes and Torpedo Bombers! I've broken that link in the AI Improvement Mod.

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ORIGINAL: Icemania

Also please include Colonisation Rebalanced. I've included this in the AI Improvement Mod, with research costs balanced to become feasible. Feel free to use that.

Maybe extra and improved Wonders as well. Extended has a lot of extra races and there aren't enough Wonders to go around.

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ORIGINAL: lurchi
Maybe we can work this out. Sure would be epic.

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ORIGINAL: Unforeseen

What actually makes it destroy the planet? Haven't really looked at it so I have no clue :P

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ORIGINAL: Unforeseen

Also, I was looking at the tech tree and had a thought...perhaps point defense weapons should be in the energy weapon tree. It doesn't really make sense for them to be attached to the concussion missile since its not a missile weapon and doesn't shoot down missiles that I know of. Attach to Enhanced Beam Weapons maybe?

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ORIGINAL: Unforeseen
Lol :P, well in that case it does need a buff. Maybe range idk.

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ORIGINAL: lurchi
I want to give them their very own tree, but I dunno if that'd cause the AI not researching it. This needs testing.

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ORIGINAL: Blackstork

I would be glad if you check that time to time, because its the place where we build for sidegrade usage system, where sidegrades could provide better options for certain races, making different races gameplay more distinct and special , with its own optimal choices/picks and reasoning, even from pool of 50 races.

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ORIGINAL: Blackstork

Also i have question, since i am less into tech tree modding: Can you by modding assign goverment which unlocked by certain tech?
Also question : can you limit fitting of certain module to certain class of ships?

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ORIGINAL: Icemania

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ORIGINAL: lurchi
Maybe we can work this out. Sure would be epic.

I was thinking the equivalent of Death Rays rather than Super Lasers for each branch ...

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ORIGINAL: Icemania

If they open up Ship Tactics to modding

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ORIGINAL: Icemania

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ORIGINAL: lurchi
I want to give them their very own tree, but I dunno if that'd cause the AI not researching it. This needs testing.

If it's in Research.txt then it has an item number and I can include it in the Build Order.

I would keep it in Weapons though to avoid an unbalance between each Research Branch.