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RE: HMS Warspite - 7/28/2014 7:13:03 PM   
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I've always liked the ship. Wish she was just a tad faster so she could join a CV TF , but she's still faster than most older battleships . Actually I would have liked a squadron of her class.
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Sadly we did not have the money to modernise all 5 ships of the class . Barham and Malaya thus entered WWII with only a modest upgrade package. Queen Elizabeth and Valiant, being modernised later, received a more modern armament package than the Warspite, but all three were useful additions to the fleet during the war - with that interesting mix of old (hull) and new (superstructure) they looked like sex on a stick too Only the South Dakotas (mean, moody, mofo's) came close in the looks dept.


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RE: HMS Warspite - 7/29/2014 2:10:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'll take Warspite or any "R" class over the US BBs with their kindergarden experience level!!

Having said that, the Warspite was torpedoed off PH in one of my games too!! She sits being fixed in LA as we speak.

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RE: HMS Warspite - 7/29/2014 3:59:15 PM   
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RE: HMS Warspite - 7/29/2014 7:39:46 PM   
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As a JFB I try and sink her every chance I get. Just because
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As a JFB I would expect nothing else from you - the Grand Old Lady is quite a scalp for the Axis after all


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RE: HMS Warspite - 7/30/2014 4:22:18 AM   
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I to just finished Castles of Steel, very very good book. Looking to start his other book Dreadnought. Think Im reading them reverse order....but oh well. Got a feeling however that Dreadnought will be a very slow read

Hi jakla,
you'll find Dreadnought an entirely different read from Castles of Steel! In D, all the warfare is political, & the shots are exchanged in diplomatic exchanges, political speeches published in newspapers, governments directing changes in naval strategy, & internecine warfare in the British/German naval commands. The climax of the book centers on the design & (unbelievably fast) construction of HMS Dreadnought, & her transformative influence on the navies of the world.

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RE: HMS Warspite - 7/30/2014 9:46:45 AM   
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As a JFB I try and sink her every chance I get. Just because
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As a JFB I would expect nothing else from you - the Grand Old Lady is quite a scalp for the Axis after all



In my game vs the AI the Japanese know how important she is - Warspite has just finished the initial repairs in Seattle and is ready to go back to sea but there are 3 subs lurking off the coast (hexes 208.52, 208.53 and 208.54) waiting for her no doubt.

I have several AMs working the area on ASW and some more DD's coming up from SF & LA, as well as KV Wetaskiwin earmarked to escort Warspite to the canal (I may as well try and get her to the rest of the RN in Ceylon).

However I know as soon as she hits open water one of those subs is going to nail her, so for now, her crew are enjoying some extended liberty in the Pacific Northwest.

Cheers,

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RE: HMS Warspite - 7/30/2014 3:22:13 PM   
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I to just finished Castles of Steel, very very good book. Looking to start his other book Dreadnought. Think Im reading them reverse order....but oh well. Got a feeling however that Dreadnought will be a very slow read

Hi jakla,
you'll find Dreadnought an entirely different read from Castles of Steel! In D, all the warfare is political, & the shots are exchanged in diplomatic exchanges, political speeches published in newspapers, governments directing changes in naval strategy, & internecine warfare in the British/German naval commands. The climax of the book centers on the design & (unbelievably fast) construction of HMS Dreadnought, & her transformative influence on the navies of the world.


Thanks for the comparative, jmalter. I enjoyed Castles of Steel, but don't think that Dreadnought would be my proverbial cup of tea. If I wanted to read about political posturing, who said what in the newspapers and the like, I'd pick up any number of other recent publications on modern warfare.

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RE: HMS Warspite - 7/30/2014 6:19:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		The parts I recall liking best about Dreadnought were the profiles and interplay between the British Royals, Kaiser Wilhelm, Bismark, and Admirals Fisher & Tirpitz. It basically focuses on the world before WWI, from the late 19th century to literally the moment before the Great War begins, weighing heavily on the naval perspective and of course the effects of HMS Dreadnought and the naval race which followed. I found I liked it more then I thought I would, but if you're picking it up expecting it to be exactly like Castles of Steel you'll probably be disappointed.

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RE: HMS Warspite - 8/1/2014 3:18:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		I suspect that AirGriff has a bounty out on the Warspite in my game after the drubbing she just gave him. The Warspite is a very nice ship with radar and great starting XP.

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RE: HMS Warspite - 8/1/2014 3:57:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just finished reading "Dreadnough" and "Castles of Steel"

Castles of Steels is a war book, no questions asked...
Dreadnough... not so much, I was expecting a book heavily focused on the development of dreadnought and/ or the dreadnough race.

What I got instead was an interesting book (don't get me wrong, it is a good book), about the key British and German actors from the late 19th century until the start of WW1. So, lots of information about the the Kaiser, his father and grandfather, Bismark, Tirpitz, Von Holstein, Von Bulow, other ministers, Queen Victoria, her sons/ daughters, Gladstone, Chamberlain, Churchill. Fisher, Jellicoe, the list goes on and on.



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RE: HMS Warspite - 8/1/2014 8:05:13 PM   
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I suspect that AirGriff has a bounty out on the Warspite in my game after the drubbing she just gave him. The Warspite is a very nice ship with radar and great starting XP.
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RE: HMS Warspite - 8/1/2014 9:20:04 PM   
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RE: HMS Warspite - 8/2/2014 7:27:53 AM   
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I don't know if this has been mentioned here, but http://www.dreadnoughtproject.org/tfs/index.php/Main_Page is a great resource.
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WWI ships were generally unattractive (but the Queen Elizabeths - even then - were flippin' gorgeous)





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RE: HMS Warspite - 8/2/2014 11:09:55 AM   
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RE: HMS Warspite - 8/2/2014 1:04:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good thing for the Warspite the Japs don't get any of these babies in the game:







Sorry I had no idea the image would this huge....obviously shoulda resized it.

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RE: HMS Warspite - 8/2/2014 2:23:33 PM   
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RE: HMS Warspite - 8/2/2014 2:26:52 PM   
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Good thing for the Warspite the Japs don't get any of these babies in the game:







Sorry I had no idea the image would this huge....obviously shoulda resized it.
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Why? As The Grand Old Lady proved during the real thing, she can handle it


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RE: HMS Warspite - 8/2/2014 2:27:42 PM   
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I guess this example of poor Allied play from World in Flames won't go down too well then



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Has Bullwinkle been playing MWIF as the Allies?


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RE: HMS Warspite - 8/2/2014 2:49:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not so much "playing" as bungling as the allies.

To be fair to the Grand Old Lady, the new pride of the Italian fleet is performing as well under her new colours as she normally does for the Royal Navy.

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RE: HMS Warspite - 8/2/2014 3:31:57 PM   
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Not so much "playing" as bungling as the allies.

To be fair to the Grand Old Lady, the new pride of the Italian fleet is performing as well under her new colours as she normally does for the Royal Navy.
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Sounds like you play the Allies in MWIF as competently as I do AllenK

With HMS Warspite now batting for the other side I feel an automatic Axis victory is about to happen


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RE: HMS Warspite - 8/3/2014 5:29:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, uncannily, ever she was repaired and put into service by the Italians, the axis have had a marked turnaround in fortune. I wonder how many MWIF games there have been where the axis have recaptured France and Stalingrad having lost them in 42.

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RE: HMS Warspite - 8/3/2014 5:49:44 PM   
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Well, uncannily, ever she was repaired and put into service by the Italians, the axis have had a marked turnaround in fortune. I wonder how many MWIF games there have been where the axis have recaptured France and Stalingrad having lost them in 42.
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Re-taken France? The Allied player must be rubbish Mind you, the Axis player sounds like a bit if a dingbat too!


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RE: HMS Warspite - 8/3/2014 7:34:50 PM   
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By the way, I'm glad you are writing your excellent AAR 's again. Really enjoy reading them. They've taught me all I know

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RE: HMS Warspite - 8/3/2014 7:38:22 PM   
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Yep, both equally terrible! Hold on, what am I saying? This is a solitaire match...

By the way, I'm glad you are writing your excellent AAR 's again. Really enjoy reading them. They've taught me all I know
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Touché!

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RE: HMS Warspite - 8/4/2014 2:33:53 AM   
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Are you still blathering on a full week later about this old tub? Goodness, man-find a hobby that you're good at. Clearly not World in Flames...

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RE: HMS Warspite - 8/4/2014 4:08:25 AM   
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Warspite1,

Are you still blathering on a full week later about this old tub? Goodness, man-find a hobby that you're good at. Clearly not World in Flames...
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No, definitely not World In Flames .... um...something I'm good at? I must confess I'm struggling here... oh I know, I have been known to put on a rather successful beauty pageant or two. You may of heard of them - they are held under the banner "Australian Beauties" and run in the thicky General Discussion forum

Anyways, back on topic, has it been a full week? Ironic isn't it that a thread designed to disparage one of history's finest, most celebrated fighting vessels (and the officers and men that fought with her) has been one of the most visited and posted on in this forum in the last few weeks?

Apart from a couple of posters , the remaining posts have been supportive of this fine ship - as I would have expected from the calibre of the majority of contributors to this forum. Regardless of nationality, most of us can appreciate fighting vessels with proud histories such as HMS Victory, HMS Ark Royal, USS Enterprise, USS Constitution, and HMS Warspite - for her sterling service in two World Wars (and of course her gorgeous looks - rightly has a place among such .


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