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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/27/2014 5:53:14 PM   
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The PL-877 Kilo has no anti submarine weapons of any kind. Can this really be correct, or should the SET-65M be added?


Which Kilo? Just checked and have two torps that are.

You can see the number at the top of DB viewer.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/27/2014 6:37:53 PM   
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Minor point...it occurs to me that if these are added they probably should be named differently so it is not obvious when one encounters one of these things what it is. If something shows up as Civilian Dhow (Suicide Bomb) in the game display, after all, one would probably just sink it rather than let it get close enough to cause damage. :)



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I have mentioned earlier the possibility of adding generic suicide explosives as weapons, but I wonder if it would make sense to do it as ships and facilities? Each of them would have a weapon, but one with no range (or maybe 0.001 miles, if it has to have some range to work), and with enough explosive power to destroy the ship/facility itself and any nearby targets.

Suicide Bomber (Terrorist) <-- possibly modeled as the Downed Pilot, but with a warhead?
IED (Terrorist)
Land Mine (Generic)
Anti-Tank Mine (Generic)
Vehicle (Truck Bomb) (Terrorist) <-- 500-lb. warhead?
Vehicle (Truck Bomb, Nuclear) (Terrorist)

And watercraft...

Civilian Boat (Suicide Bomb) <-- 500-lb. bomb for this one and the other non-nuclear ones?
Fishing Boat (Suicide Bomb)
Civilian Dhow (Suicide Bomb)
Civilian Junk (Suicide Bomb)
Container Ship, Feedermax (Nuclear Bomb)
Tanker, General (Nuclear Bomb)

Anyway, it's just a thought. Maybe this would be an easier way to do things?




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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/27/2014 8:42:06 PM   
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Regarding the Kilo: I was referring to the PL-877.

Most or all of the PL-877M, PL-877E and PL-636 in the database have torpedo wire control data links and are equipped with wire guided torpedoes capable against submarines (TEST-71M or some variant of that). The PL-877 has no such data links and cannot use those torpedoes, so I would have expected to see the SET-65M on the PL-877. But it has only got the 53-65K against surface ships and nothing against submarines.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/27/2014 8:51:55 PM   
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Regarding the Kilo: I was referring to the PL-877.

Most or all of the PL-877M, PL-877E and PL-636 in the database have torpedo wire control data links and are equipped with wire guided torpedoes capable against submarines (TEST-71M or some variant of that). The PL-877 has no such data links and cannot use those torpedoes, so I would have expected to see the SET-65M on the PL-877. But it has only got the 53-65K against surface ships and nothing against submarines.


Ok thanks. Just needed to know what to look at.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/29/2014 6:58:56 PM   
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I would like to request that F-35 be given six-internal AIM-120D load-out from ~2020 onwards. I couldn’t find recent information, but this is often used as a reference when discussing this.

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The F-35’s limited internal missile load-out remains a concern. In September 2008, it prompted Maj Richard Koch, chief of the USAF’s Air Combat Command advanced air dominance branch, to state that “I wake up in cold sweat at the thought of F-35 going in with only two air-dominance weapons.” This shortcoming clearly concerns Lockheed Martin, too, as the company has illustrated a six-internal missile configuration (using a new launcher design and compressed carriage missiles) as part of ‘notional’ Block 5 configuration, for service after 2020.

Jon Lake: Air Forces Monthly Dec 2010 (p. 44-45).


I understand this is not written in stone, but as I see it there are many similar, potential weapon load-out already in the DB. Hey – at least I’m not asking CUDA’s.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/30/2014 4:42:13 PM   
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Per my inquiry on the main page, I would request that at least the Paveway III series of LGB (GBU-24xx)have a minimum launch altitude dropped. The seeker head was much more advanced and designed for quicker capture by the LST. That said, I know the USAAF was using lofting techniques prior to the 1988 introduction of this system. I know it is hard wired into the system but perhaps a mod of the Paveway II systems for low altitude use with a higher CEP

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/30/2014 8:57:46 PM   
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Various requests logged up to this point.

Thank you all!

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/30/2014 9:05:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mgellis


Minor point...it occurs to me that if these are added they probably should be named differently so it is not obvious when one encounters one of these things what it is. If something shows up as Civilian Dhow (Suicide Bomb) in the game display, after all, one would probably just sink it rather than let it get close enough to cause damage. :)



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ORIGINAL: Mgellis

I have mentioned earlier the possibility of adding generic suicide explosives as weapons, but I wonder if it would make sense to do it as ships and facilities? Each of them would have a weapon, but one with no range (or maybe 0.001 miles, if it has to have some range to work), and with enough explosive power to destroy the ship/facility itself and any nearby targets.

Suicide Bomber (Terrorist) <-- possibly modeled as the Downed Pilot, but with a warhead?
IED (Terrorist)
Land Mine (Generic)
Anti-Tank Mine (Generic)
Vehicle (Truck Bomb) (Terrorist) <-- 500-lb. warhead?
Vehicle (Truck Bomb, Nuclear) (Terrorist)

And watercraft...

Civilian Boat (Suicide Bomb) <-- 500-lb. bomb for this one and the other non-nuclear ones?
Fishing Boat (Suicide Bomb)
Civilian Dhow (Suicide Bomb)
Civilian Junk (Suicide Bomb)
Container Ship, Feedermax (Nuclear Bomb)
Tanker, General (Nuclear Bomb)

Anyway, it's just a thought. Maybe this would be an easier way to do things?






Why not just create some different generic HE weapons (IED) with very short range. Then it would just be to add this and a mount to the desired platform to create a floating bomb etc. Would not that be easier?

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/30/2014 9:17:44 PM   
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Yeah. Probably keep the NSA from reading our emails too as it is creepy.

I'll just throw some jabs about the Orioles:)

Mike

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/30/2014 11:40:01 PM   
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I hate to ask again, but I'm kinda stuck: Which datalink to add to get ESSMs to work on platforms that don't normally carry them? All my non-standard ESSM carriers can't engage without a datalink.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/31/2014 12:08:21 AM   
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Think you need fc and air detection radar added to sensors
So
Add 1760 STIR- ESSM +2MR, Adelaide + Nansen, Mk92 Mod 12....

Add some sort of air detection radar

Ex. 2674 AN/SPS-49

Add Correct missile mount (weapons's dialog)

ex. 624 Mk41 VLS [8 cells]

etc.



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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/31/2014 1:29:13 AM   
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Curious. I've got an SPS-77, SPS-49, a STIR and a Mk92 with a 48-cell Mk41 (and 24 ESSM) and I'm still getting the 'Unable to connect to firing unit with mandatory datalink' message in the manual fire dialog.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/31/2014 2:12:45 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mikmyk

Yeah. Probably keep the NSA from reading our emails too as it is creepy.



I would just like to take this opportunity to apologize to the families of any brave NSA officers who died of boredom while listening in on my phone calls. Because I am quite sure that would be the outcome if anyone had to listen in on hours and hours of my daily routine. :)




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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/31/2014 9:04:32 PM   
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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/1/2014 1:30:24 AM   
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Curious. I've got an SPS-77, SPS-49, a STIR and a Mk92 with a 48-cell Mk41 (and 24 ESSM) and I'm still getting the 'Unable to connect to firing unit with mandatory datalink' message in the manual fire dialog.


Try mount 1663 Mk29 Sea Sparrow -ESSM, Add sensors: 1024 Mk95 (not 3746) and a search radar AN/SPS-48E.

This should work

Mike

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/2/2014 11:35:01 AM   
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Couple of database requests:

Looking for a roughly 2018 3.2B F-22 Raptor which will highly likely have full Block 2 AIM-9X with HMD capabilities http://news.usni.org/2014/05/16/air-force-evaluating-new-targeting-monocle-f-22-raptor/
Also looking for roughly 2022 F-35A and F-22 with GBU-53/B SDB II, as well as a roughly 2019 US Navy Super Hornet with SDB II capability http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/raytheon-wins-usas-gbu-53-small-diameter-bomb-competition-06510/

(and probably also integration on F-16 and other platforms around the 2020 mark)

My thanks will be great as always :)

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/2/2014 1:25:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mikmyk


quote:

ORIGINAL: hellfish6

Curious. I've got an SPS-77, SPS-49, a STIR and a Mk92 with a 48-cell Mk41 (and 24 ESSM) and I'm still getting the 'Unable to connect to firing unit with mandatory datalink' message in the manual fire dialog.


Try mount 1663 Mk29 Sea Sparrow -ESSM, Add sensors: 1024 Mk95 (not 3746) and a search radar AN/SPS-48E.

This should work

Mike


Yeah you'll have to use a non-AEGIS version of the ESSM as those require a free datalink channel to fire, alternatively add an AEGIS datalink through the SBR script (INI file). No GUI for that yet, sorry!

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/3/2014 12:49:47 AM   
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Noticed that the F-16 and the F-15E are unable to carry the JSOW by default and that conversely legacy Hornets and Superhornets are unable to carry MALDs. Can this be rectified in an update of the database?

Sources:
http://www.raytheon.com.au/rtnwcm/groups/rau/documents/download/rau_factsheet_jsow.pdf

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/raytheon-and-us-navy-begin-mald-j-super-hornet-integration-161536815.html

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/3/2014 4:22:26 AM   
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The USAF never really used the JSOW. They bought a handful which they passed on to the Navy.

Will take another look at the MALD when we get back, thanks

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/3/2014 4:29:48 AM   
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Also added request for F-22 and F-35, thanks!


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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/3/2014 5:52:36 PM   
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The Whiskey class submarines in the database have a Trout Cheek [MG-10 Feniks] listed as active only search. I believe that should be passive only. Notoriously hard to find online sources but FWIW here is one: http://www.harpoondatabases.com/Encyclopedia/Entry1945.aspx

Also, makes little sense for a submarine to not have any passive sonar.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/4/2014 2:07:58 AM   
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Could we add these Canadian Halifax class updates ?

http://www.jproc.ca/rrp/halifax_modernization.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_class_frigate

Thanks

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/6/2014 2:57:51 PM   
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IAI Harop SEAD drone:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Harop
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/haroploiteringmuniti/
http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/16429/israeli-made-suicidal-drone-doubles-missile/#KTgVsORAkpYyQ083.97
http://www.indiandefencereview.com/news/harop-loitering-munitions-system-for-the-iaf/
http://www.uasvision.com/2014/06/17/iai-transforms-harop-into-missile/

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/9/2014 4:15:59 AM   
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http://news.usni.org/2014/08/05/navy-swaps-anti-swarm-boat-guns-ddg-1000s

Bad news, the secondary guns on DDG-1000 will probably be downgraded from 57mm MK110 to 30mm MK46. It's a pretty risky decision consider the little capability the MK46 has as a CIWS gun. Anyways, the change will need to be reflected in the database.

And may I remind your guys that the AAQ-37 EO DAS is still non functional due to the lack of IRdetection/classification zoom(while having optical zoom although the sensor operates in IR band).

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/9/2014 3:34:42 PM   
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Yugoslav Novi Avion

Link (in Serbian)

Another link (note the ASM loadout picture)

Additional link (one loadout listed, 2 R550 and 2 Super 530)

Loadout chart

Link



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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/11/2014 1:08:13 PM   
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The CWDB already includes two British 'what if' ships that I'd like to include in a Falklands scenario.  Can these be copied over to the DB3000? (unless there is a way that I don't know about for using the data from both DBs in a single scenario)

The ships are:
Type 43 Destroyer
R01 Queen Elizabeth CVA-01
could you also add 
R08 Ark Royal (Audacious not Invincible flavour)
Also need the Royal Navy's 1978 fixed wing airgroup of Phantom FG.1/2, Gannet AEW.3 & COD.4 and Buccaneer S.2 for the airgroup. 

Is it also possible to add:

K08 RFA Engadine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFA_Engadine_(K08))
K07 HMS Challenger  (http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/viewship.asp?id=19388)


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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/12/2014 2:39:45 AM   
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Helicopter carrier Moskva has two SAN-3 magazines with 44 goblets each... Wiki and old harpoon says 22 missiles per launcher?


Also I made a request on the CWDB thread RE: Argentine A4 loadouts...do I need to put that here as well?

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/12/2014 11:08:21 AM   
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Hey guys, just bringing to your attention that the Italian FREMM Carlo Bergamini (F 590) is of the "general purpose" version and not ASW, as it was the first FREMM built I'm a bit suprised to only see the ASW version in the database whilst the first ship of the latter version was built later on.

Still regarding the Italian FREMMs (both versions), they decided in the end to equip them with "Sylver VLS A-50" cells and not "Sylver VLS A-43" making them able to hold both Aster 15&30 and not only the first one as it seems to me it's in the DB for now.

Thanks for you time, keep up the great work !

Cheers

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/13/2014 3:09:15 AM   
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When possible, please add...

Selex ES Falco
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falco_reconnaissance_drone
http://www.selex-es.com/documents/737448/5986926/FALCO_Dsh_149.pdf <-- company brochure...what's not to love?
http://www.selex-es.com/-/falco-un-peacekeeping
http://www.selex-es.com/-/falco-saves-lives

Pakistan operates quite a few of these. Other countries seem interested in buying some.

Thanks for considering this one.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/13/2014 10:04:10 AM   
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Hey guys, just bringing to your attention that the Italian FREMM Carlo Bergamini (F 590) is of the "general purpose" version and not ASW, as it was the first FREMM built I'm a bit suprised to only see the ASW version in the database whilst the first ship of the latter version was built later on.

Still regarding the Italian FREMMs (both versions), they decided in the end to equip them with "Sylver VLS A-50" cells and not "Sylver VLS A-43" making them able to hold both Aster 15&30 and not only the first one as it seems to me it's in the DB for now.

Thanks for you time, keep up the great work !

Cheers


I also noticed that the Italian FREMM "ASW" currently present on the DB has: 1x OTOmelara 76mm
1x OTOmelara 127mm

Those are the armaments of the the "general Purpose" version, the ASW should have 2x OTO Melara 76mm cannons.


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