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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/7/2014 4:29:12 PM

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What is your troop strength in Burma now?

Including Moulmein but not the more Southern coastal bases.

About 11 Infantry Divisions, 2 Tank Divisions, 2 Divisions worth in smaller units, 20 artillery units, 15 AA units, lots of tank regiments mostly spread out as garrisons to protect against air drop. About 800 aviation support mostly in Magwe, Katha and Rangoon. 4 more infantry divisions are being transferred but there are 2 2/3 unrestricted infantry divisions that will, eventually, be pulled.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/7/2014 5:00:12 PM

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protect against air drop.

He can hit you with over 200 AV if he uses both Chindits...be careful. Having a fire brigade/regiment on SR too probably not a bad idea.

How are you moving supplies to Burma, I am not having a problem.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/7/2014 8:41:22 PM

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protect against air drop.

He can hit you with over 200 AV if he uses both Chindits...be careful. Having a fire brigade/regiment on SR too probably not a bad idea.

How are you moving supplies to Burma, I am not having a problem.

Key bases (Katha, Myitkyna, Lashio, Magwe, Moulmein, Pegu, Rangoon, Paoshan, Tsuyung) have 100 to 150 AV behind level 3+ forts. The smaller bases, such as Mandalay, mostly have just a tank regiment.

I mostly have lots of forces on strategic move at a time but will aim to keep a division in thirds spread around.

I have been dropping supplies into Rangoon but stopped, hoping that supplies would flow from China. I wasn't doing anything particular to help but have just tried pulling supplies to Kweiyang and releasing it on the supply long move days. I'll see if that works. I do have some 70,000 supply en route to Rangoon and (if that stays in Burma) that should last a couple of months.

Curiously, I didn't have much problem until I opened the Burma road. I wish I could tell whether supply is flowing from Burma to China.

Note that it is the upcountry bases that have supply shortages plus Akyab occasionally. For example, Katha has a demand of 6000 has 170 engineers working and about 150 planes on CAP. So it needs 400+ supply a day. With a max supply draw of 1650 it really needs to draw at least twice a week.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/7/2014 8:44:04 PM

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March 26th 1943

Air Losses: 2 Japanese, 7 Allied, 1 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at: Buin

Allies take 4 Ops losses for F4U-1 Corsairs

, nice but I wonder what he was doing.

Allies are taking ops losses for "R4D-1 Skytrain", I wonder where he is using transports?

Subs

Inconclusive actions only.

Marshalls

I-123 is subject to multiple attacks from carrier planes but is undamaged. It gives me an approximate location of the Allied carriers (South East from Maleolap).

Solomons, etc.

Allies land at Buin. CA Australia takes a mine hit at Vella Lavella from a sub-laid mine (I though he knew about these) but the many DD and DE manage to clear the minefield.

1st Marine Division seems to be landing at Buin (a bit overkill as I only have a fragment of a naval guard unit there, 13 AV).

He seems to have completely failed to notice an SCTF of 6 CA & 5 DD in the area that I will send into action.

Burma area

Quiet

China

Quiet

Australia & DEI

Quiet

Engineering

Sabang airfield to 4.

R&D

D4Y4 to 4/43

Reinforcements

Quiet

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/8/2014 12:30:55 PM

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March 27th 1943

Air Losses: 6 Japanese, 65 Allied, 1 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy: Buin
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Subs

I-16 sinks AO Platte

, carrying fuel cargo, about 400 miles East of Mili. Not sure how many AO he has but I seem to be sinking some of his better ones.

Marshalls

Quiet, lost sight of the Allied carriers again.

Solomons, etc.

6 CA raid Buin. They fail to get through to the transports as they meet 4 SCTF, 1 with the Washington, 1 with the North Carolina, and two with 2 CL each. CL Raleigh took 38 hits and was left heavy fires, heavy damage so may sink; at long range, many 20cm shells hits were blocked by the deck armour. CL Achilles took enough damage to flood magazines but doesn't look in danger of sinking. Some Allied destroyers suffered heavy fires but probably not enough to sink. Throughout the battles there are no torpedo hits scored; I wish my ships would keep their torpedoes to shoot at BB and not engage DD

!

DD Yukikaze takes enough damage to sink later

. DD Teruzuki and Tokitsukaze take damage and are too close by day and get sunk by 15 SBD-3 that attack

. The A6M5 on LRCAP arrive to engage the SBD-3 after the attack and shoot all down in revenge

. Nachi and Kinugasa will need a little yard time.

A CL task force is also in the area and subject to attack. The first attack has escorts and only 1 N1K1-J is able to get through to the bombers and takes 3 of them out. The other attacks are unescorted and provide a field day for the fighters. 4 CL take hits and will need some yard time. None are seriously damaged.

Air loss from the battles 4 Ki-44-IIc lost for 19 F4F-3 and 39 SBD-3 downed

.

So on a strict VP ratio that is 37 Japanese VP lost for 58 Allied and, possibly, another 20 or so if Raleigh sinks. However, I would rather not lose any DD.

Search is quite good at Buin and I still don't see any BB. I think he may be sending them in just for the night phase.

The 250 men at Buin are overwhelmed by the 1st Marine Division.

The fighters were based at Buka and very few are damaged with plane fatigue manageable. Not sure whether to leave them there, and risk sweeps, or pull them back.

Burma area

Supply arrives at Rangoon and the supply situation in Northern Burma is improving.

China

Quiet

Australia & DEI

Quiet

Engineering

Laoag airfield to 3. Allies expand Darwin to 5.

R&D

Now have 5 fully repaired Ki-84a factories. So June arrival is guaranteed, two more factories to repair so question is how early in May I can get it.

Reinforcements

SS RO-102

Other

A large convoy from Palembang delivers fuel and oil to Hong Kong and it looks like a good bit has flowed to Fusan.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/8/2014 12:54:04 PM

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Any advice on the what balance between fighters, dive and torpedo bombers on the carriers?

I'm thinking that with the D4Y4 available it may be worth moving more towards dive bombers and away from torpedo bombers. I'm stuck with the A6M5 for another month and the USN will start getting hellcats so I was wondering whether to increase the number of fighters.

For example, on the Kaga might go for 41 A6M5, 27 D4Y4, 13 B6N2. Doing that the total force would be 312 A6M5, 165 D4Y4, 96 B6N2.

When he struck at Maleolap he had about 150 escorts so something like a CAP of 180 seems desirable and 130 escorts doesn't seem enough so should I go for more fighters? Something like 350 fighters, 140 dive bombers and 90 torpedo bombers?

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/8/2014 3:15:49 PM

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Wonder why he didn�t combine the NC and Washington? I would have.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/8/2014 8:43:07 PM

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March 28th 1943

Air Losses: 11 Japanese, 55 Allied, 2 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy: Buin
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Subs

Near Rabaul, S-27 puts a torpedo into CL Sendai then attacks again and sinks her with another hit.

Marshalls

Quiet. Vague suggestion of the Allied carrier location with one sub at 6/6 detection.

Solomons, etc.

36 Nells launch night strikes at the Allied fleet at Buin, mostly targeting light cruisers, all miss

.

Lightning sweep Buka where there are A6M5, Ki-44-IIc and N1K1-J on CAP. The Tojos suffer a bit but the Georges do a number on the Lightnings. 3 APD are supposed to be delivering supplies and would then be used to evacuate damaged planes. SBD-3 and F4F-4 strike at them and suffer. However, a few bombers get through and APD Namikaze is sunk and APD Okikaze has 95 fires so may as well be scuttled.

Two new Aces, one army and one navy.

PO2 Fujita R. was transferred from reserve into 204 Ku S-1 yesterday. On his first day in a front-line squadron, and the first time he flies a Shiden, he participates in 3 missions and shoots down 6 aircraft. The boy is a natural!

6 Ki-44-IIc lost for 7 P-38G, 10 F4F-4, 35 SBD-3 downed

. I am really liking the N1K1-J. Not sure why it out performs the Ki-44-IIc that much; it may just be the Tojo climbs faster and takes the brunt of the first attack from the sweeping Lightnings.

Burma area

Quiet

China

3 Chinese corps are not yet trapped. They get attacked again and retreat towards Ledo. If I'm not careful these may escape to India. They are only 1 hex away from being in supply.

Australia & DEI

Quiet

Engineering

Quiet

R&D

Quiet

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/8/2014 8:46:58 PM

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Two new Aces, one army and one navy.

PO2 Fujita R. was transferred from reserve into 204 Ku S-1 yesterday. On his first day in a front-line squadron, and the first time he flies a Shiden, he participates in 3 missions and shoots down 6 aircraft. The boy is a natural!

Love this details in the game! Follow Fujita and tell us about him!

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/8/2014 9:23:23 PM

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6 Ki-44-IIc lost for 7 P-38G, 10 F4F-4, 35 SBD-3 downed. I am really liking the N1K1-J. Not sure why it out performs the Ki-44-IIc that much; it may just be the Tojo climbs faster and takes the brunt of the first attack from the sweeping Lightnings.

It is the guns. 4 20mm cannons baby!

Gives her almost twice the firepower. But having something absorb the diving Lightnings certainly helps! Lets the George mix it up with good morale and undamaged.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/9/2014 4:23:00 PM

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March 29th 1943

Air Losses: 1 Japanese, 3 Allied, 0 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy: Buin
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Subs

RO-100 is sunk near Buin in the Solomons.

Marshalls

Quiet.

A sub suffers multiple attacks by carrier planes but is undamaged and gives a location on the Allied CV. They may be heading back to the barn.

At Ponape, an Allied attacks a PB carrying supply, counter-attack is ineffective. Two attacks each score 1 hit but one is a dud. At 35/77/5/2 damage she will be disbanded in port and hope can get some repairs before I send her to Truk. Ponape is a level 1 port with 15 Naval Support so not going to get many repairs done.

Solomons, etc.

RO-100 is run over by the Washington and Achilles task forces and is sunk.

A few Nells try a night attack at xAP unloading at Buin but all miss.

The fighters from Buka have pulled back to Rabaul. I deploy the first P1Y1 aircraft at Rabaul but the days needed to get them ready are huge, it will be a fortnight before half are ready (one problem with SR 4). In a few days, when aircraft and crews are ready, I plan to throw everything into an attack and see if I can sink some ships.

Burma area

More artillery has arrived at Warazup and I will restart bombardments.

China

Quiet

Australia & DEI

Quiet

Engineering

Quiet

R&D

Quiet

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/9/2014 4:33:02 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Spidery

March 28th 1943

Air Losses: 11 Japanese, 55 Allied, 2 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy: Buin
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Subs

Near Rabaul, S-27 puts a torpedo into CL Sendai then attacks again and sinks her with another hit.

Marshalls

Quiet. Vague suggestion of the Allied carrier location with one sub at 6/6 detection.

Solomons, etc.

36 Nells launch night strikes at the Allied fleet at Buin, mostly targeting light cruisers, all miss.

Lightning sweep Buka where there are A6M5, Ki-44-IIc and N1K1-J on CAP. The Tojos suffer a bit but the Georges do a number on the Lightnings. 3 APD are supposed to be delivering supplies and would then be used to evacuate damaged planes. SBD-3 and F4F-4 strike at them and suffer. However, a few bombers get through and APD Namikaze is sunk and APD Okikaze has 95 fires so may as well be scuttled.

Two new Aces, one army and one navy.

PO2 Fujita R. was transferred from reserve into 204 Ku S-1 yesterday. On his first day in a front-line squadron, and the first time he flies a Shiden, he participates in 3 missions and shoots down 6
6 Ki-44-IIc lost for 7 P-38G, 10 F4F-4, 35 SBD-3 downed. I am really liking the N1K1-J. Not sure why it out performs the Ki-44-IIc that much; it may just be the Tojo climbs faster and takes the brunt of the first attack from the sweeping Lightnings.

Burma area
aircraft. The boy is a natural!

Quiet

China

3 Chinese corps are not yet trapped. They get attacked again and retreat towards Ledo. If I'm not careful these may escape to India. They are only 1 hex away from being in supply.

Australia & DEI

Quiet

Engineering

Quiet

R&D

Quiet

The Tojo is a slightly better climber and it is easier to service.. Other then that, the N1K1 is superior...

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/9/2014 5:34:40 PM

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Any advice on the what balance between fighters, dive and torpedo bombers on the carriers?

You didn't get much of a response here, and I was interested in reading it.

Of course, the primary factors will be tactical and strategic. Are you near land based air support? Expected enemy strength? Mission goal? Your strength? How close is resupply?

Generally speaking 2-1 db to tp ratio or even higher with these planes I think.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/9/2014 6:46:16 PM

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Cannonfodder, not in this game. Still uses the original aircraft data, see below.

It isn't just that they shoot a few more aircraft down, they don't take anywhere as near as many losses. There were 18 George, 16 Tojo and 9 Zero opposing a sweep by 25 P-38G. 6 Tojo were lost and no George (the Zeroes were on LRCAP and didn't arrive). 8 Tojo were left damaged at the end of the day versus 3 George.

I suspect it is the maneuver at the highest band that makes a difference plus the slight range advantage of the guns may help. It did seem to be the case that Tojos damaged Lightnings while Georges destroy them, which is showing the value of the cannons.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/9/2014 6:53:26 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Spidery

Any advice on the what balance between fighters, dive and torpedo bombers on the carriers?

You didn't get much of a response here, and I was interested in reading it.

Of course, the primary factors will be tactical and strategic. Are you near land based air support? Expected enemy strength? Mission goal? Your strength? How close is resupply?

Generally speaking 2-1 db to tp ratio or even higher with these planes I think.

Given that the torpedoes in DBB are so much worse than in standard (something I hadn't known before), I'm heading for more D4Y4 and less B6N2. Still want to keep the B6N2 around for the extra search range. Also, the NavT trained pilots need to be shared with the Nells/Betties/Frances etc. so are in shorter overall supply, but I still have lots of prewar pilots.

Ideal situation would be in defense of the Marianas so with limited LBA support, ready access to resupply, approximate equality in carrier aircraft. Mission goal would be to break the back of an invasion attempt either by stopping it cold or smashing the enemy carriers so they can't maintain a supply line.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/10/2014 5:07:35 PM

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March 30th 1943

Air Losses: 1 Japanese, 3 Allied, 1 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy: Buin
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Allies are losing R4D-1 Skytrain to ops regularly, I wonder where they are flying.

Subs

I-20 sinks the damaged DD Cassin near Pearl Harbour. Two hits but the first was a dud.

Marshalls

Liberators hit Eniwetok.

Solomons, etc.

Quiet

Burma area

Good VP trade at Warazup now more artillery has arrived:

quote:

Japanese ground losses:
149 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Allied ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 17 (8 destroyed, 9 disabled)

China

Quiet

Australia & DEI

Quiet

Engineering

Guam airfield to 5, with an Air Division at Saipan this should allow me to do upgrades.

Uruppu-Jima forts to 4. Tinian forts to 5.

R&D

Quiet

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/11/2014 10:49:16 AM

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Memo from Yokosuka head of research to Combined Fleet Headquarters.

A variant of the Navy Suisei Carrier Bomber Model 11 has been developed that replaces the Atsuta engine with the Mitsubishi MK8P Kinsei engine. It is capable of carrying an 800kg bomb to a combat range of 420 km with improved speed and much improved reliability.

Unfortunately, there is no way to release the bomb.

April 1st 1943

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/11/2014 10:51:46 AM

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March 31st 1943

Air Losses: 2 Japanese, 2 Allied, 0 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

A number of offensive air operations have been ordered for the start of April, fingers crossed they won't be too bad.

Subs

I-34 locates Allied carriers near Johnson Island and is damaged.

Marshalls

Liberators hit Eniwetok, 2 A6M5 engage and 1 is lost for damage to Liberators but none shot down.

Solomons, etc.

Liberators bomb Port Moresby and sink the ACM in port.

Burma area

I stocked Kweiyang with a lot of supply and increased the supply demand for every base in Burma. Then on the weekly supply move I dropped the supply demand at Kweiyang. This seems to have shifted about 13,000 supply into Burma from China. 2 or 3 days and Katha should be out of the yellow.

Bombardments at Warazup intensify.

China

A bad attack at tidying up the Chinese costs a few squads.

Australia & DEI

Try send some some Nells to bomb Corruna Downs, no effect, is it possible to hit resources?

Engineering

Rabaul forts to 6, Sorong airfield to 5.

R&D

Ki-84a to 10/43
A6M5c to 7/43

D4Y4 enters production, 3 factories currently producing 70 but with expansion to 140.

Allies start getting Hellcats,

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/11/2014 11:08:43 AM

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March Overview

Not too bad a month.

Allies make a small advance in the Solomons but otherwise seem content with harassment actions. On Land, Air and at Sea I gain more VP than I lose. Allied land losses are mostly the forces in China being hunted down. Japanese land losses were the defenders of Darwin eliminated at the beginning of the month. Base points growth is mostly expanding Chungking. VP gain of 50+ per day, I would like to be averaging a gain of 100 per day. I need to try and step up the intensity of the air war.

         Japan   Allied
Overall: +1659    +755
Land:     +656    +219
Air:      +347    +322
Base:     +471     +57
Sea:      +185    +158

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/11/2014 11:12:16 AM

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March Industry

All okay, everything is flowing back okay. I am now dropping liquids at Hong Kong and removing them at Fusan. 6 oil wells fixed at Urumchi during the month. Rebuilding two divisions shattered at Darwin is eating into the growth in Armaments points.

Oil:      -109,487
Fuel:     +138,074
Supply:   +216,323
HI:        +78,365
Vehicles:   +2,039
Arms:       +8,104

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/11/2014 11:19:03 AM

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Ship Losses

I lost as below, 1 CL, 5 DD, 3 PB, 4 SS, 2 APD, 1 TK, 1 ACM. My subs are beginning to find it harder to operate. His subs had minimal success: a tiny TK, CL Sendai, 2 PB. Also put a couple more PB and an xAK into the yards.

Allied losses I can't make out. Confirmed: 27 PT Boats, 2 AO, 1 xAK, 1 xAKL, 2 APD, 1 CM, 4 DD. However, that is about 40 or 50 points short of what I sunk. There was a high possibility on a CL and CA Australia is showing as sunk by a mine. Also, it may be that air ASW has sunk some SS and there were 2 or 3 DD that were possibles.

Edit: of the Allied losses, 2 AO, 1 xAK, 1 xAKL, 1 CM, 1 DD were claimed by subs.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/11/2014 11:24:32 AM

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Engine Status

Stockpiles still there for future needs but am going to turn off some Ha-34 and Aichi Ha-60 production. The D4Y1 is obsoleted by the D4Y4 so the only uses for the Aichi Ha-60 are the Judy Recon and the M6A1. For the Ha-34, I am cutting back on the use of the Helen except for ASW so expect fewer losses, and the Tojo is going to be, mostly, obsolete once the Ki-84a and Ki-43IV are available. The Helen transport will be available next month and replace all other IJA transports.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/11/2014 11:31:22 AM

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Aircraft Pools

I have turned off a lot of production as pools are building up. Some of the bigger pools, Kate, Nell, etc. will be useful as Kamikazes.

Producing:
Ki-48-IIb (1 Sentai equipped so far have two more to eventually get this)
E13A1 (still have some obsolete models to replace and take steady losses)
B6N2 (need a reserve and have a few LBA Kates still to replace)
Ki-46-III (role out to the IJA Recon is slow)
N1K1-J (key plane and still have some A6M5 on land to replace)
P1Y1 (slow role out and not sure where to replace the Nells)
D4Y1 (will still produce this for a while until the D4Y4 role out is going well)
D4Y4 (supplying this to carriers as fast as possible)

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/11/2014 1:28:31 PM

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April 1st 1943

Air Losses: 22 Japanese, 22 Allied, 18 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Subs

During the night, SS Grouper attacks AO Kokuyo Maru heading back to Balikpapan. It scores two hits but one is a dud. Unfortunately, the DD escorting only have type 95 DC and can't reach sub depth. SS Grouper makes two more attempts, the first is screened off but the second scores two more hits, one of which explodes and sinks the oiler

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During the day, SS Finback makes another attack on the same convoy but is screened off and misses the shot at DD Tsuta.

Marshalls

Quiet

Solomons, etc.

I must be doing something wrong. In the morning N1K1-J sweep Buin and easily brush aside the Wildcats on CAP. In the afternoon the bombers arrive on naval strike, some CAP is back up but all the strikes have escorts and keep the fighters from getting through to the bombers:

Combat 1:

quote:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Buin at 109,131

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 93 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 45
G3M2 Nell x 30
G3M3 Nell x 16
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 41

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 14 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak
G3M3 Nell: 6 damaged
G3M3 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CA Quincy
CA San Francisco
DD Gridley, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
CA Astoria
CA Vincennes
DD McCall

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
7 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 14000 feet
4 x G3M3 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
6 x G3M3 Nell bombing from 14000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
5 x G3M3 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
6 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 1000 feet
30 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 14000 feet
3 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 14000 feet

So 6 Nell used bombs for some reason and managed to score a hit on a DD from 14000 feet. 44 Nell used torpedoes as expected and failed to score any hits on the cruisers

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Combat 2:

quote:

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 12
D4Y1 Judy x 9
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 33

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 6 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak
D4Y1 Judy: 3 damaged
D4Y1 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CA Vincennes
CA Quincy, Bomb hits 1
DD Gridley, heavy fires
CA Astoria

One Val scores a hit but it is a belt armour hit so no significant damage

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Combat 3:

quote:

Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 9
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 18

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2 Jill: 1 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
DD McCall
CA San Francisco

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

Can't hit a barn door

quote:

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 6
P1Y1 Frances x 4
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 10
Ki-46 KAI Dinah x 6

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 4 damaged
G3M3 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak
P1Y1 Frances: 2 damaged
P1Y1 Frances: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CA Vincennes
CA Astoria
CA Quincy

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P1Y1 Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
6 x G3M3 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

No hits here either

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I'm getting the impression that there is no point in using torpedoes

. They just can't hit anything in DBB.

A group of Nicks on low nav attack were also supposed to attack but failed to arrive

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Meanwhile, Liberators come in at 1000 feet to target and sink 9 xAKL off-loading supply at Buna

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Total losses: 20 F4F-4 (16 air-air) for 1 Ki-44-IIc in air-air, 7 G3M3 (4 Flak), 6 G3M2 (5 flak), 3 D3A1 (all flak), 3 P1Y1 (all flak), 2 D4Y1 (both flak). So that is 20::1 losses inflicted in air-air combat

and 21 planes lost for 2 bomb hits only one of which did damage

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Burma area

Quiet

An extended range port strike on Columbo fails to take place.

China

Quiet

Australia & DEI

Quiet

Engineering

Allies have built a level 1 airfield at Cox's Bazaar.

R&D

Quiet

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/11/2014 3:25:35 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Spidery
I must be doing something wrong. In the morning N1K1-J sweep Buin and easily brush aside the Wildcats on CAP. In the afternoon the bombers arrive on naval strike, some CAP is back up but all the strikes have escorts and keep the fighters from getting through to the bombers:

Either morale or inspiration are causing failed checks, or you are not spotting the ships until the afternoon, or the air base is overstacked and under coordinated? Or did you just fly the planes in the day before?

I am sure there could be other reasons to...

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/11/2014 3:31:49 PM

Spidery

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

quote:

ORIGINAL: Spidery
I must be doing something wrong. In the morning N1K1-J sweep Buin and easily brush aside the Wildcats on CAP. In the afternoon the bombers arrive on naval strike, some CAP is back up but all the strikes have escorts and keep the fighters from getting through to the bombers:

Either morale or inspiration are causing failed checks, or you are not spotting the ships until the afternoon, or the air base is overstacked and under coordinated? Or did you just fly the planes in the day before?

I am sure there could be other reasons to...

That is not my complaint/problem. Apart from some Nicks that didn't fly, everything that was supposed to flew and attacked. They just couldn't hit anything.

Morale 99. Level 9 air base. Air support exceeds number of aircraft present (but not by much). All planes were sitting there and had been idle for a while so plane fatigue was low.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/11/2014 3:37:31 PM

Spidery

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The torpedo on the B6N2 has effect 397, penetration 282, accuracy 31, 10% dud rate.
The 800kg SAP bomb for the D4Y4 has effect 536, penetration 174, accuracy 39, no duds.
The 500kg SAP bomb for the D4Y4 at range 7/8 has effect 440, penetration 126, accuracy 29, no duds.

After the dismal failure of torpedo attacks last turn I think I will plan on my carriers taking almost exclusively dive bombers. Just take a few B6N2 along for naval search out to range 10.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/11/2014 3:49:13 PM

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I thought you were disappointed with no morning strike.

Those torps really stink and the bomb kind of does too.! Stock: 529/529 43percent accurate for torp.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/11/2014 5:28:59 PM

Spidery

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April 2nd 1943

Air Losses: 14 Japanese, 23 Allied, 1 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Subs

A PB delivering supply to Ponape is damaged by SS Gunnel

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Marshalls

Wotje suffers visitations from 4E bombers.

Solomons, etc.

A massive (145 planes) 4E strike at Buna meets a hefty CAP of (26) N1K1-J and (29) Ki-44-IIc. It blasts through and does some damage to the airfield (19 service and 28 runway). Later low level attacks meet little resistance and sink 3 small xAK and an APD delivering supplies

. Air losses for the day: 9 Ki-44-IIc (1 on the ground), 4 N1K1-J versus 12 B-17F (1 to flak), 4 B-24D, 2 B-17E, 1 LB-30. And only 1 pilot KIA and 1 WIA

. Nearly all defending fighters are damaged.

Burma area

Quiet

China

Quiet

Australia & DEI

Quiet

Engineering

Quiet

R&D

Quiet

Allied Plans

I feel he plans on a very historical route. An Advance up the New Guinea coast and an advance on the Marianas.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 8/11/2014 5:46:30 PM

Spidery

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

I thought you were disappointed with no morning strike.

Those torps really stink and the bomb kind of does too.! Stock: 529/529 43percent accurate for torp.

All torpedoes are nerfed in DBB. It is sort of accurate in reflecting the relative effectiveness of the weapon but possibly over does it in not considering that the game is only an abstraction of overall operational effectiveness. It is not a one-sided thing, Allied torpedoes are nerfed as well; the Ansyu class PB seem to be able to survive a single sub-torpedo hit more often than not.

Bomb damage is reduced and accuracy a little with penetration for AP bombs being increased slightly.

Altogether, I expect that coupled with the Allied player willing to take risks beyond what was historically acceptable, this helps the Allies.

Mentioned it to Tom, he suggests that in his game with Greyjoy he basically abandoned the use of torpedoes mid 1944. I think I will be doing that earlier.

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