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Badly needed DW Universe fix! Diplomacy Cool Down Times - 6/1/2014 9:44:20 PM

Tanaka

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Diplomacy is pretty useless in this game as long as you can just change diplomacy with the click of a button every turn! There should be repercussions for making and breaking treaties. Reputation should mean something and should stick. Bad one day and good the next! What??? War on! War off! Trade on! Trade off! Embargo on! Embargo off! Huh??? Its ridiculous and the worst thing about this game! Please fix this and make this game so much better!

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RE: My only request for a DW Universe update: Diplomacy... - 6/1/2014 10:17:32 PM

Shark7

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Cool down times and a few other options as well:

1. Lie about another empire: What better way to play the galactic intrigue game than to make two enemies hate each other more than they hate you.

2. Arbitrate between 2 empires: Act as a peacemaker between empire A and empire B to improve their relations.
3. Disaster relief: Special case of being able to send a gift only when an empire has an active disaster. Should have an effect on galactic reputation as well as relations between you and the target empire.

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RE: My only request for a DW Universe update: Diplomacy... - 6/1/2014 10:53:30 PM

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Liking these suggestions a lot! :)

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RE: My only request for a DW Universe update: Diplomacy... - 6/1/2014 11:08:55 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

Diplomacy is pretty useless in this game as long as you can just change diplomacy with the click of a button every turn! There should be repercussions for making treaties. Reputation should mean something and should stick. Bad one day and great the next! What??? War on! War off! War on! War off! Huh??? Its ridiculous! Please fix this and make this game so much better!

Don't hold your breath.I have been asking for these for years.

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RE: My only request for a DW Universe update: Diplomacy... - 6/2/2014 3:50:07 AM

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Yeah, it's a known issue that hasn't been resolved, unfortunately

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RE: My only request for a DW Universe update: Diplomacy... - 6/2/2014 4:26:30 AM

Tanaka

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This game with EU IV diplomacy would be amazing!

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RE: My only request for a DW Universe update: Diplomacy... - 6/2/2014 4:40:07 AM

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Agreed, long known issue, highlighted many times by the community, yet no action taken. It's time to get this all done Matrix.

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RE: My only request for a DW Universe update: Diplomacy... - 6/2/2014 5:52:18 AM

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Agreed, +1, thumbs up, and all of that.

I had an empire turn on and off it's trade embargo six separate times in half an hour - and for no reason. It happened the very moment I discovered them.

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RE: My only request for a DW Universe update: Diplomacy... - 6/2/2014 11:35:24 PM

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Also, I see no way to ask/threaten another empire into making peace - even when subjugated!

In terms of cooldown, embargo flip/flopping seems most annoying, whether from the AI or my own advisors.

- E

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RE: My only request for a DW Universe update: Diplomacy... - 6/3/2014 2:13:21 AM

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Hmm, there are a few more I'd like to see.

1. Insult: You can guess the result of this one.

2. Veiled threat: Sounds non-threatening, but they get the message

3. Taunt: keep annoying them

As you can see, these 3 options are specifically to taunt an empire and goad them into war.

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RE: My only request for a DW Universe update: Diplomacy... - 6/3/2014 7:08:28 PM

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4. Give me ALL of your ALE.....OR ELSE!

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RE: My only request for a DW Universe update: Diplomacy... - 6/3/2014 11:33:55 PM

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4. Give me ALL of your ALE.....OR ELSE!

Ahem, the next expansion....

Distant Worlds: Space Pirate Data Edition.

Take on new challenges such as protecting your cargo dock from a drunken android on a rampage.

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RE: My only request for a DW Universe update: Diplomacy... - 6/4/2014 8:08:30 AM

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When in doubt....raid!

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RE: My only request for a DW Universe update: Diplomacy... - 6/4/2014 3:48:41 PM

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When in doubt....raid!

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RE: My only request for a DW Universe update: Diplomacy... - 8/21/2014 7:52:45 PM

Tanaka

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Just got offered lots of money to initiate trade sanctions on another empire by a rival empire. They paid me 20,000 credits. Next turn I get asked to undo them by another empire and poof! I remove them. Great way to make money for nothing!

Again cool down times and repercussions desperately needed!

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RE: My only request for a DW Universe update: Diplomacy... - 8/22/2014 3:35:25 AM

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I like this idea also, for me the most important thing would be to nix the Tech Trading Exploit.
Maybe even disallow certain techs from being traded.
Any space-faring Intelligent species wouldnt go around carelessly trading Technology.

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RE: My only request for a DW Universe update: Diplomacy... - 8/22/2014 11:12:28 AM

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While they are at it, they could give pirates real diplomacy... Having only protection agreements as your only option is pretty silly.

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RE: My only request for a DW Universe update: Diplomacy... - 8/22/2014 12:30:25 PM

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I don't know if I want pirates to have real diplomacy. Instead of asking for money each month, what if the pirates asked for one of the following instead:

1. Give me all your research on <X> technology
2. Give me colony <Y>
3. Your last Cruiser looks really interesting. Give it to us.
4. Give us 50,000 credits one-time

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RE: My only request for a DW Universe update: Diplomacy... - 8/22/2014 3:23:47 PM

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I've said it many times here, but I'll say it again. I'll throw large sums of money at Erik and Elliot for a diplomacy expansion!

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RE: My only request for a DW Universe update: Diplomacy... - 8/22/2014 8:23:31 PM

Tanaka

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Nanaki

While they are at it, they could give pirates real diplomacy... Having only protection agreements as your only option is pretty silly.

Especially when you can just turn on turn off turn on turn off...

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RE: My only request for a DW Universe update: Diplomacy... - 8/22/2014 8:24:15 PM

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x years minimum treaty duration would at least make it impossible to agree to a embargo and then break it immediately. With the insane values the ai set to those you can get everything, and it costs only a little bit reputation.

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