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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/21/2014 4:12:30 AM   
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That's interesting. I am asked if I want to use the Notional Unit and for the first time there is a change of odds dependent upon the answer. 3:1 (but giving away a +1) or 4:1 (with no modifiers). The French choose the 4:1 and hope the Germans roll low.

The Germans can increase the odds of one of the battles - but not both as they are almost out of aircraft. They take a chance and do not fly. There is only von Bock left for re-organisation.




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/21/2014 4:18:02 AM   
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So to the first attack, north of Paris. Its a 4:1 +2 on the Blitz table....

...its a 7(9) and the French lose their Militia, with the 7th Infantry Shattered. I do not convert.

The French D500 fighter is destroyed too.




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/21/2014 4:27:02 AM   
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The result is a Breakthrough meaning that Paris falls to two German Panzer Corps!! Problem is I moved my units too early and cannot undo

The hexes southeast of Lille and northwest of Rheims are vulnerable to counter-attack. The German units could be out out of supply if those attacks are successful!




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/21/2014 4:31:20 AM   
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For the 5:1 attack on Rheims (fractional odds must have come into play) the Germans throw a 4. They are allowed to choose Blitz so presumably Rheims is not actually a city hex (there is no yellow dot)*.

The defending 5th Infantry Corps is Shattered (no retreat conversion) and the Panzers move in....

* Just checked the WIF maps and sure enough Rheims is not on there.




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/21/2014 4:39:54 AM   
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In the real Case Yellow the Germans got just about as lucky as it was possible to be -everything fell right. Well in this AAR they have not been quite as fortunate, but what a break. The weather throw is a 10 - Storm in the North Temperate. The Allied counter attacks will be at -2 odds levels. Now THAT is unlucky or the Allies.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/21/2014 4:47:38 AM   
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There is just tooooooo much to consider in this game....

... its one of the things that makes it so brilliant .

While the weather has saved the Germans - neither the French in the south or the CW in the north can get even 1:1 odds - this has also put the Germans in Paris and environs out of supply. I should have moved von Bock but did not consider weather and supply (although in fairness I also did not consider the possibility of a breakthrough to Paris so my total incompetence at this game has been made clear for one and all to see).




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/21/2014 1:13:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		The good news for the Germans is that the Allies can't ground strike the German positions with aircraft or artillery in storm, meaning their panzer spearheads in Paris are safe, as is the unit linking them up.

(The breakthrough is a lesson learned for French players: leave a unit in Paris to prevent breakthroughs and paradrops.)

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 6:01:23 PM   
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The Allied moves are very limited due to the ground strikes previously. The only plan is to surround Paris - as far as is possible, and hope that a counter-attack becomes possible...






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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 6:11:51 PM   
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The Axis impulse ends equally as quickly. The Germans are able to beef up their units on the outskirts of Paris. If the weather changes and the French have the impulse they are not out of the woods yet - but it looks better than it was...

But in the meantime the turn continues and the weather is rubbish... another 10.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 6:15:46 PM   
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The Allies pass with all except the French for a 40% chance of ending the turn.

This way they can continue to manoeuvre units toward Paris and hope they get lucky.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 6:22:16 PM   
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But its a 6 and the turn carries on. The Wehrmacht can continue to gravitate troops west.

And, on a 2, the turn ends with the German troops in Paris still out of supply - there will be no Vichy this turn...

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 7:06:18 PM   
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Germany:
INF
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NAV
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Sub (2nd Cycle)

Italy:
Impero (2nd Cycle)
Pilot

Japan:
Asama (Repair)
MIL
MECH
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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 7:12:48 PM   
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China:
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Commonwealth:
INF
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France:
GARR
INF DIV
Saved 4 BP's by mistake

USA:
AMPH (2nd Cycle)
USS Hornet (2nd Cycle)
USS Indiana (2nd Cycle)

USSR:
INF
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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 7:20:21 PM   
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Impulse: Reinforcement

China:
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Commonwealth:
HMS Lion has been placed in the Construction Pool
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HMS Victorious
HMS Frobisher
INF
MECH (IND)
MOT (IND)

France:
4 x INF
MOT

USA:
AMPH has been placed in the Construction Pool
USS Massachusetts has been placed in the Construction Pool
USS Denver has been placed in the Construction Pool
USS San Diego has been placed in the Construction Pool

USSR:
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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 7:24:42 PM   
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Germany:
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Italy:
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Japan:
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Junyo has been placed in the Construction Pool
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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 7:28:20 PM   
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This could be really key! The Axis throw an 8, the Allies a 4(6) and have the chance of a re-roll. They choose to take it (unsurprisingly): Axis 4 Allies 10(11) - the Allies will have first go this turn.

Now, what will the weather decide to do?

7 - North Temperate is Snow.....

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 7:30:27 PM   
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The CW choose a Land - there will be no naval gunfire support but, frankly, the CW would rather take the pressure off the French.

So what is the plan here? Well its Snow so the Germans in the French capital are out of supply still. With a -2 odds level the French cannot attack - they have no air force left to ground strike with anyway!

What they can do is surround the capital and then attempt to attack in the next impulse if weather conditions improve. Its all pretty desperate stuff....


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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 8:26:49 PM   
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The British leave a rear-guard - the 14th Motorised Corps - as sacrificial lambs in Antwerp as the great pull back begins....




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 8:42:00 PM   
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The impulses advance 3....

The Germans align Bulgaria - there is no impact on the US.

The Germans will use this impulse to try and optimise their air force positioning and to ensure their Paratroopers are available once more. The HQ's - von Rundstedt and von Bock move forward to put the Panzer Army in Paris back in supply. Its almost all over for the French....






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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 8:49:45 PM   
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The weather shows no signs of cheering up.... Its a 7 and the North Temperate remains Snow. If the Allies cannot counter-attack then Paris falls...assuming the Germans want to declare Vichy.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 9:09:08 PM   
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There is one attack declared this turn - against the French Garrison in Strasbourg. No aircraft or HQ support is used for this 5:1 attack.

It's a highly unimpressive 3.. The Germans are all disorganised but take no loses while the French lose their Garrison.




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 9:14:14 PM   
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On the roll of a 1 the turn continues - but its Blizzard....

Not much to do frankly. The French 41st Garrison withdraws into the Vosges mountains as it was out of supply where it was.

And on a 1, the turn ends.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 9:39:45 PM   
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Germany:
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Italy:
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Lepanto (1st Cycle)

Japan:
Junyo (2nd Cycle)
AMPH (2nd Cycle)
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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 9:46:31 PM   
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China:
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Commonwealth:
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HMS Nigeria (2nd Cycle)
Battleship (Build)
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INF
PARA
SUB (Build)

French:
ARM HQ
FTR

USA:
AMPH (2nd Cycle)
USS Massachusetts (2nd Cycle)
USS Denver (2nd Cycle)

USSR:
MECH
MECH DIV
MOT
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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 9:48:36 PM   
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Impulse: End of Turn

MWIF Narrator: Establish a Vichy Government In France?

Adolf Hitler: Thank-you for asking, but on reflection, no thanks

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 9:56:15 PM   
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China:
MTN (Communist)

Commonwealth:
HMS Implaccable has been placed in the Construction Pool
FTR
HMS Prince of Wales
INF (Ind)

France:
FTR
INF DIV
GARR

USA:
USS Alabama has been placed in the Construction Pool
TRS
SUB

USSR:
INF
CAV
MTN
ARM


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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 10:02:04 PM   
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Impulse: Reinforcement

Germany:
MIL (Bulgaria)
FTR
LND
INF
INF (Bulgaria)

Italy:
None

Japan:
Musashi has been placed in the Construction Pool
MIL
ART
Shokaku
Zuikaku
Asama
TERR (Korea)
CONV
SUB

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 10:04:26 PM   
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Impulse: Weather and Initiative

Allies 6 Axis 7. The Allies have no choice but request a re-throw....

Axis 5 Allies 1....

...the weather is a 9 - Blizzard...



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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/22/2014 10:23:16 PM   
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Well as expected, that first impulse ended quickly.....

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/23/2014 1:32:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		.... so wait, Germany didn't install Vichy?

Interesting.

Also, I know the French are in a bit of a pickle (by which I mean existential crisis), but why blow a re-roll on a Jan/Feb turn?

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