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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/13/2014 11:28:41 AM   
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Hi, the standard sonar sensor of each Italian FREMM units is a hull sonar "UMS 4410CL" (FREMM) and a WASS "SNA-2000-I".
The ASW version (Margottini, Fasan ecc...) beyond this have a VDS "UMS 4249 CAPTAS" and a echo sounder "SeaBeam 3050 multibeam".

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/13/2014 12:46:23 PM   
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Hey guys, just bringing to your attention that the Italian FREMM Carlo Bergamini (F 590) is of the "general purpose" version and not ASW, as it was the first FREMM built I'm a bit suprised to only see the ASW version in the database whilst the first ship of the latter version was built later on.

Still regarding the Italian FREMMs (both versions), they decided in the end to equip them with "Sylver VLS A-50" cells and not "Sylver VLS A-43" making them able to hold both Aster 15&30 and not only the first one as it seems to me it's in the DB for now.

Thanks for you time, keep up the great work !

Cheers


I also noticed that the Italian FREMM "ASW" currently present on the DB has: 1x OTOmelara 76mm
1x OTOmelara 127mm

Those are the armaments of the the "general Purpose" version, the ASW should have 2x OTO Melara 76mm cannons.




Just discovered an other problem but this time with the french FREMM, Italian FREMM being bigger in size they have an hangar capable of hosting 2 helicopters (NH90 or AW101) whilst the french counterparts only have one hangar spot but in the DB if you check the French Aquitaine class you will notice that there are 2 hangar spots.

Hope I don't look like a pain in the *** with the FREMMs, just trying to help pointing out the problems I found testing the ships capability IG.


PS: You forgot to add the "MBDA Milas" (weapon) to the Italian "ASW" FREMM, which exists in the Database (they use the same lauchers as the OTOmat teseo MK2).

Italian (not french) FREMMs OTOmelara 76mm are all equiped with "Davide" munitions(existing in the DB as an other Cannon)And Vulcano munitions for the 127mm


Cheers,

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/15/2014 4:18:16 AM   
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Change in zumwalt armament.

http://news.usni.org/2014/08/05/navy-swaps-anti-swarm-boat-guns-ddg-1000s

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/16/2014 1:28:10 PM   
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AMSAR radar on the newest versions of RAF Typhoon (2016+) has a "Radar, FCR, Air-to-Air & Air-to-Surface, Medium-Range" role, but its listed abilities are "Air Search, Altitude Info, Heading Info, Range Information, Speed Information". It lacks surface or ground search ability and, when tested ingame, it can't detect ground targets.

PARS-3LR missile and EER sonobuoys are in the database, but can't be assigned in scenario editor with "Add weapon record".

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/16/2014 8:17:59 PM   
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Could we add these Canadian Halifax class updates ?

http://www.jproc.ca/rrp/halifax_modernization.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_class_frigate

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Looking at our 2012 Version of the Halifax (ID 1898) I think we got it all but please do post if we missed something.

Thanks!

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/16/2014 8:35:27 PM   
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All requests logged since my last posting. Thank you all. We'll get to them as soon as we can.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/17/2014 12:57:46 PM   
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Could we add these Canadian Halifax class updates ?

http://www.jproc.ca/rrp/halifax_modernization.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_class_frigate

Thanks



Looking at our 2012 Version of the Halifax (ID 1898) I think we got it all but please do post if we missed something.

Thanks!

Mike


You did. I was editing an older scenario and didnt realise I had to rebuild the scenario database. Got it now.
Thanks

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/18/2014 3:07:56 PM   
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Someone from a while back put in a request for the F-20 Tigershark.

I found a loadout chart for it that may be of some use.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/18/2014 9:30:21 PM   
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Thanks Coiler. Updated the request.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/20/2014 6:56:26 PM   
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In case this could help the team, I just worked on it:

LRASM - Long Range Anti-Ship Missile

LRASM Techincal datasheet

I'll soon publish an article on LRASM following a visit I had at Lockheed. I am also waiting for the Navy to get back to me on some questions I had.
Maybe I'll have more info then

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/21/2014 11:55:33 AM   
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Some corrections/edits when you get a chance:

All 4 French Navy Floréal-class frigates had their NAJIR Optronics replaced with SAGEM EOMS-NG:
http://en.dcnsgroup.com/2014/07/11/dcns-ach%C3%A8ve-l%E2%80%99int%C3%A9gration-du-nouveau-syst%C3%A8me-optronique-des-fr%C3%A9gates-de-surveillance-bas%C3%A9es-outre-mer/

I would like to report a sensor error with UAE Navy Baynunah: In game it shows Vigy 105. This optronic is quite old and was never fitted on Baynunah. Baynunah also has EOMS NG:
http://www.navyrecognition.com/images/stories/middle_east/uae/opv/baynunah/pics/CMN_combattante_br71_Baynunah_class_corvette_UAE_Navy_15.JPG
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=62

Data on EOMS NG
http://www.sagem.com/IMG/pdf/D1422E_EOMS_NG.pdf

mikmyk, do you have a status update regarding the addition of the following classes?
Abu Dhabi
Falaj 2
KCR40
SIGMA 10514 PKR
FMPV Kri Klewang

Thanks and keep up the good work




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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/23/2014 3:46:36 PM   
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Is there any interest in creating some hypothetical V-22 variants? I was specifically thinking of a Sea Control variant (SV-22? sort of a replacement for the S-3 Viking), a COD/Aerial Refueling variant (HV-22? roll-on capability like the Marine C-130s) and maybe an AEW variant (EV-22? which I think has been proposed for the UK). I think these have all been proposed in the real world

SV-22



Specifications for the SV-22 Osprey (speculative, from http://www.jeffhead.com/modelbuilds/US-sv22.htm)

Flight Crew: Four (pilot, copilot and two flight engineers)
ASW Crew: Four Anti-submraine Warfare specialsts.
Capacity: 20,000 lb (9,070 kg) of internal cargo, sensors, equipment.
Length: 57 ft 4 in (17.5 m)
Rotor diameter: 38 ft 0 in (11.6 m)
Wingspan: 45 ft 10 in (14 m)
Width with rotors: 84 ft 7 in (25.8 m)
Height: 22 ft 1 in/6.73 m; overall with nacelles vertical (17 ft 11 in/5.5 m; at top of tailfins)
Disc area: 2,268 ft² (212 m²)
Wing area: 301.4 ft² (28 m²)
Empty weight: 33,140 lb (15,032 kg)
Loaded weight: 47,500 lb (21,500 kg)
Max. takeoff weight: 60,500 lb (27,400 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × Rolls-Royce Allison T406/AE 1107C-Liberty turboshafts, 6,150 hp (4,590 kW) each
Maximum speed: 275 knots (509 km/h, 316 mph) at sea level / 305 kn (565 km/h; 351 mph) at 15,000 ft (4,600 m)
Cruise speed: 241 kn (277 mph, 446 km/h) at sea level
Range: 879 nmi (1,011 mi, 1,627 km)
Combat radius: 390 nmi (426 mi, 722 km)
Ferry range: 1,940 nmi (2,230 mi, 3,590 km) with auxiliary internal fuel tanks
Service ceiling: 25,000 ft (7,620 m)
Armament:
ASW: (Up to 4,900 lb (2,220 kg))
- 4 x Mark 50 or Mark 54 Torpedos
- Sonarbouys
Guns:
2 × 7.62 mm (0.308 in) M240 machine gun

MV-22 COD/ARF



Refueling capability
Boeing is developing a roll-on/roll-off aerial refueling kit, which would give the V-22 the ability to refuel other aircraft. Having an aerial refueling capability that can be based off Wasp-class amphibious assault ships would increase the striking power of Marine F-35Bs, as they would not rely on refueling assets that could only be based on full-sized Nimitz-class aircraft carriers or from land bases. The roll-on/roll-off kit can also be applicable to intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance functions.[103] Boeing has funded a non-functional demonstration on a VMX-22 aircraft. On 29 August 2013, proximity tests were conducted between a MV-22 and an F/A-18 Hornet.[104]

The high-speed version of the hose/drogue refueling system is designed to be deployed at 185 kn (213 mph; 343 km/h) and function at up to 250 kn (460 km/h; 290 mph). Onboard tanks and a roll-on/roll-off bladder can contain up to 12,000 lb (5,400 kg) of fuel. The operator must open the ramp to extend the refueling hose, then raise the ramp back up once it is extended, with the top ramp door left open. The Osprey could refuel rotary-wing aircraft, but it would require a separate drogue used specifically by helicopters and a partially converted nacelle. Bell and Boeing are hoping for funding for additional testing to include contact between the refueler and receiver and eventually the passage of fuel between the two aircraft.(wikipedia)

EV-22









quote:

(Above) As an alternative to the Merlin airframe, Boeing is actively promoting a version of the V-22 Osprey fitted with a palletized version of the Thales Cerberus mission system and the Searchwater airborne radar system under the project designation of TOSS. This evolved Cerebus system could also be fitted to Merlin's equipped with a rear ramp.


http://frn.beedall.com/masc.htm


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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/23/2014 4:48:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: navyrecognition

Some corrections/edits when you get a chance:

quote:

All 4 French Navy Floréal-class frigates had their NAJIR Optronics replaced with SAGEM EOMS-NG:
http://en.dcnsgroup.com/2014/07/11/dcns-ach%C3%A8ve-l%E2%80%99int%C3%A9gration-du-nouveau-syst%C3%A8me-optronique-des-fr%C3%A9gates-de-surveillance-bas%C3%A9es-outre-mer/


Thanks item added to list.

I would like to report a sensor error with UAE Navy Baynunah: In game it shows Vigy 105. This optronic is quite old and was never fitted on Baynunah. Baynunah also has EOMS NG:
http://www.navyrecognition.com/images/stories/middle_east/uae/opv/baynunah/pics/CMN_combattante_br71_Baynunah_class_corvette_UAE_Navy_15.JPG
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=62

Data on EOMS NG
http://www.sagem.com/IMG/pdf/D1422E_EOMS_NG.pdf


Thanks item added to list.

quote:

mikmyk, do you have a status update regarding the addition of the following classes?
Abu Dhabi
Falaj 2
KCR40
SIGMA 10514 PKR
FMPV Kri Klewang


Abu Dhabi and Falaj 3- No progress. Hung up on sensor stats.
KCR-40: Will add soon
Sigma 10514 and Algerian SIGMA: Still waiting on final fits on these
FMPV KRI KLEWANG: will add soon.


quote:

Thanks and keep up the good work


Thanks for your help!


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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/23/2014 8:02:27 PM   
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Question on radar and acoustic signatures... As per a couple of prior posts by my I'm not sure if they currently effect detection in the game. I hope this issue is resolved.

Regardless, how were these values in the database determined? I'm sure accurate data for this is hard to come by. Was there some guesswork? In regard to ships many ships have identical sonar signatures which I assume is based mainly on size. Same for many subs, most of the modern subs have the same signatures. Maybe they are all very similar or maybe there's no way to really know differences so they are made the same in the database.

Some US and US allied ships have Prarie Masker which reduces signatures. I have no technical information or data but have read some foreign ships (FREMM comes to mind as an example) tout low acoustic signatures. I see no reason to doubt some of these ships have these features but I don't see this in the database.

In addition, I've read that the LCS with it's water jet propulsion is very loud yet it's acoustic signature in the database is low.

These are just observations that may or may not be able to be answered but I was just curious.

Thanks

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/24/2014 8:02:30 AM   
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quote:

(FREMM comes to mind as an example)

Having been on board FREMM Normandie, I can confirm the entire propulsion system (Engine, bearings, shafts...) are fitted on anti-vibration devices. An engineer confirmed there was great deal of attention focused on reducing acoustic signature during design and construction phase.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/25/2014 7:02:18 PM   
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If its not to much trouble I'd like to request the Israeli Spyder SAM.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/27/2014 10:28:10 AM   
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DB entry request for USMC F/A-18D ATARS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Tactical_Airborne_Reconnaissance_System

Thanks

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/27/2014 11:13:28 AM   
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Regarding the V-22 variants, don't forget, you can add sensors to them while they are in flight in the editor, easily making the AEW or an unarmed MSA version.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see those versions with sonobuoys and loadouts too.


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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/27/2014 4:56:58 PM   
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Hi! Could you please provide more aircraft parking space on the LPD 17 San Antonio Class. It can transport 5 MV-22 http://news.usni.org/2014/06/16/u-s-moves-amphibious-warship-closer-iraq-four-u-s-ships-gulf or 2 CH-53, 2 UH-1Y, 2 AH-1 and 1 MV-22. http://blogs.militarytimes.com/scoopdeck/2010/06/22/all-that-and-an-osprey-too/

Thanks in advance.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/28/2014 1:12:13 AM   
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I know me (and someone else) a long while back requested the MiG-23-98.

While I'd previously found the armament (in Russian), I've also just found details on the radar (go to Moskit-23)

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Moskit-23 is an updated Moskit radar. The Moskit-23 radar is equipped with a TS-600 signal/data processor. Improved hardware and software allows increase in the search range of the radar for a fighter to 90km, tracking range to 60km. Moskit-23 provides ground mapping modes, and launching of the Kh-31A active radar missiles against naval targets from a distance of up to 100 kilometres. Guided bombs can also be used. Moskit-23 can detect and track hovering helicopters. It is designed for a proposed MiG-23 upgrade. It detects simultaneously 10 to 12 targets, selects the most dangerous 4 of them, tracks and engages them. Weight is 110kg.



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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/28/2014 1:57:38 AM   
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Added all request since last post. Added info on Mig-23-98 to existing item

Thanks!

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/28/2014 10:03:42 PM   
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For confirmation, there weren't any DB updates in the last beta, correct?

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/28/2014 10:22:42 PM   
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No. We're working on something else that involves a substantial delta to the db schema. Perhaps next beta release depending on how things land.

Mike

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/30/2014 10:05:00 PM   
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The Greek AB.212 ASW helicopters cannot be used on the Elli class frigates in the database. They are IRL: http://www.hellas.org/military/navy/images/kont-2.jpg

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/30/2014 11:08:40 PM   
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or 2 CH-53, 2 UH-1Y, 2 AH-1 and 1 MV-22. http://blogs.militarytimes.com/scoopdeck/2010/06/22/all-that-and-an-osprey-too


Are you sure that that's an operational load? That doesn't look practical for carrying aircraft for anything but a short time, and would seriously impede actual operations (arming the Cobras or loading troops onto the other helicopters and V-22 would be pretty slow, and possibly dangerous)

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 8/31/2014 5:26:29 PM   
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Hi Nick. I think it depends on the operation. I don't think it would deploy with such a load within an ARG. But operating alone to fulfill a special task it is able to load such a number of aircraft. Maybe not in a month long deployment but for a short time it seems possible. I think it is a matter of flexibility.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/3/2014 12:56:13 PM   
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Hey there!

Is it possible to make the CMANO engine able to counter-engage small rockets or mortar shells (those little red blobs) with C-RAM systems? I'm excited about those things but do not see the point of adding them as air defense ONLY due to their limited range. I doubt so but wanted to check this for sure.

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 9/5/2014 8:47:23 AM   
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Hi, everybody, as i'm from China, and i'm a military fan, i notice some setting issues of Chinese platfroms and weapons, i don't know whether you friends could fix it.
1.the seeker of Chinese HHQ-9A,B/HQ-9 is an active radar seeker instead of semi one, its seeker and specification is more close to a PAC-3(though HQ-9 can not attack targets in orbit) than SA-10.
2.there exists a mistaken radar setting in Chinese fighter's radar types and also ranges, here is some that i consider is the top priority:
a.KLJ-3 radar is not copy of russian equivalent, instead, it is a copy and variant of Israel's EL/M2032, and the range is, according to official release, over 140KM, the same problem is also in J-10's passive sensor settings;
b. the AESA of J-10B, though the type is OK, the range is still incorrect,maybe you friends could reffer to israel's AESA's range(because China has much communication in such techs with israel);
c. the range problem exists in JL-10A and other chinese airbone tactic radars.
3.KJ-2000 AEW, though has a same platform with A-50, is equipped with a totally diffrent AEW system,:
1)it's radar is made of 3 AESAs(together form a tri-angle), the type is close to Phalcon, but more advanced(you can set as late 2000s) and has a larger range of detection and tracting.
2)KJ-2000 has a surface detection radar whitch is more close to that on USAAF E-8 A/C,the range may be shorter than the USAAF
3)KJ-2000 also has a strong commin ability,but this is not very important
4.for JH-7A, what you friends have done were magnificient, yet there is sth need to correct that it does not have two OECM pods, on the other hand, it carries 2 DECM pods similar to Israel's ELL-8212/22
5.346 series radar on a PLAN ship is actually not PESA but AESA, and it has a larger range.
Anyway, you friends really make a miracle(i hardly find any words to describe), i never find any more military game realistic than this, i wish you friends make more progress
any reply could send to my e-mail:falcon2006@yeah.net, THKS

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/5/2014 9:44:27 AM   
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Hey there!

Is it possible to make the CMANO engine able to counter-engage small rockets or mortar shells (those little red blobs) with C-RAM systems? I'm excited about those things but do not see the point of adding them as air defense ONLY due to their limited range. I doubt so but wanted to check this for sure.

Regards


Thanks for answering my question so fast...

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/5/2014 10:50:25 AM   
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Radar 997 Artisan 3D, from 2011 replacing Radar 996 (AWS-9) and others in some large UK units (at current times I think in the database is only employed by some Type 23 Duke variants).
Is a SS and HF/3D radar, my estimates are range=108 nm, PH=65.
At least employed by:
CV Queen Elizabeth-class (I0C 2016?).
LPD Albion-class from 2011.
LPH Ocean from 2012?.
Some FFG Type 23 CUP from 2013, first ship equipped HMS Iron Duke.

http://www.baesystems.com/enhancedarticle/BAES_164913/artisan-3d-medium-range-radar-type-997

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