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RE: Game enhancements - 12/12/2013 12:12:15 PM   
Agathosdaimon


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Status: offline 		AI is always the big one - and i think to make sure that is rich and varied with each of the scenarios

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RE: Game enhancements - 12/16/2013 11:12:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bought the Great War and Europe at War and like them so much I believe I will grab this next month before the sale ends as I am lacking a few games in this time period.

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RE: Game enhancements - 12/17/2013 5:37:19 PM   
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AI is always the big one - and i think to make sure that is rich and varied with each of the scenarios


I recall that CNAW has some AI improvements over CEAW (like AI actually using commanders) that were never backfitted into the earlier game. The Grand Strategy mod effort for CEAW did make some code changes but didn't do anything to the AI itself, but did add some unit events and other AI bonuses depending on which side you play. I will be curious to see what will be done with this game. Any hints?? Throw us a bone!

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RE: Game enhancements - 12/18/2013 12:15:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		indeed, overall i want more interest by Matrix to be thrown towards its stirling napoleonic wargames - CNAW, and Frank Hunters Campaigns on the Danube, CoG, EiA NiI, - all tooo good and demand love and attention. CNAW is so much better than people realise

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RE: Game enhancements - 12/18/2013 9:20:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes CNAW is a very good game that has been sadly neglected,So looking forward to the New Year, I hope to start improving this game further, with some official help from Lords Studio & Slitherine.

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RE: Game enhancements - 12/19/2013 12:22:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		great, well as i say the AI is the biggest thing that needs tightening up - i just played through the 1806 campaign on normal setting - no advantage to either side and inabout 20 minutes i won as france - just leisurely steam over the AI that barely bothered to even field a single unit against me - they have units, i know they do and they have resources but they dont bother to make use of any of them. They could easily put up a solid defense but they just just seem impotent in the extreme - i think the french is ok i have heard but teh coalition is like Rome total war 2 release version brain dead.
I wonder, did developers just give up before finishing the AI or was their standard for a challenging AI just set way too low. a game has got to have an AI that will at least make things enjoyable.

I am not sure if the AI is bad in all the campaigns as i had played the 1813 one previously and lost as france.

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RE: Game enhancements - 12/30/2013 6:28:38 PM   
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RE: Game enhancements - 12/31/2013 3:45:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Hotschi, I have made available a new download link for the 1805 Mod.



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RE: Game enhancements - 12/31/2013 9:13:41 PM   
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RE: Game enhancements - 2/6/2014 8:46:41 AM   
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I thought you might like a heads up,that there is a big chance, that this game will get a major update in the not to distant future, but then again, going by the lack of activity here, that might be a pointless exercise I think. If there are gamers who would like to see this great game thrive, now is the time to say so, all comments welcome!



I just bought the game and have played the tutorial campaign. I enjoyed it very much, having familiarity with CTGW really helped, even though this is an older game. If CNAW were to be updated and rendered like CTGW then it would be a polished looking product indeed. I do have a number of questions about the game but I can often solve them by gameplay. I will play your mod as soon as I've played some more.

I'm supporting this game!

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RE: Game enhancements - 2/11/2014 3:16:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Been playing this game for over a week and am really enjoying it! I like the 1805 and 1808 campaigns mainly.

I'm going to download your mod now Kirk...am I correct that I just replace the \data folder with the contents of your "data (Mod Files)"? I shall ignore the "Data (Backup Version 1.0)" folder yes?

Thanks! Looking forward to the upgrade of CNAW!

Oh by the way, what is Napoleon in Italy like as a game?

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RE: Game enhancements - 2/11/2014 10:26:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Napoleon in italy is a gem, it is a perfect tbs combination of campaign operational level and then tactical battles that you can do or auto resolve. The auto. Resolve is pretty good too and the ai gives a detailed log of the unfolding of the battle, but the tactical is alot of fun and nearby forces on the campaign map can sometimes turn up or not in the battles - heaps of commanders and units .the only flaw is that some people might have a hard time getting it to run smoothly on a newer OS - i run mine on windows 7 but one has to play around with compatibility settings. It has a number of campaigns too and the Ai is very good

Cnaw is alot of fun i agree, i have applied the mod but find that some of my ship units have missing images, so that they are invisible in production queues and on the map - i am not sure how to fix this and whether this is caused by the mod

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RE: Game enhancements - 2/12/2014 6:25:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the feedback on Napoleon in Italy, much appreciated.

What are your thoughts about Crown of Glory: Emperors Edition - if indeed you have that game? In your opinion, what is the best Napoleonic war-game out there (and why)?

Thanks again Agathosdaimon!

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RE: Game enhancements - 2/12/2014 10:33:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		good question - I think Crown of Glory is superb too - actually it may be perhaps the best all encompassing and beautiful of the games in teh genre.
Unfortunately there is no one game which covers it all in this genre, they all have their pros and cons. I think the best one may be the old Battles of Napoleon by SSI - it had heaps of add scenarios of historical battles and the AI was excellent - really tough, -

all teh games MATRIX sells are among the very best i think and then of course HPS sims and John Tiller has his napoleonic battles games, though his formula simple and eschews much of the aspects of command structures and such.
Frank Hunters Campaigns on the Danube is perhaps one of the most realistic in terms of fog of war and it makes for thrilling gameplay really, an operational chess game where you cannot even be sure of where your own pieces are

- that, napoleons campaigns and the Histwar games may be the very top of the chain in my view of current games that offer something realistic in terms of commanding armies with the limitations of the time, no total war god like view of everything

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RE: Game enhancements - 2/13/2014 4:13:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Great insight Agathosdaimon, thank you for sharing your thoughts. I am interested in Crown of Glory:Emperors Edition myself, maybe I'll take the plunge soon! I've not heard of some of those games you mentioned!

We could really do with a new (or at least updated) Napoleonic war-game!

Edit: What's the tutorial like for CoG:EE? It's a shame about the lack of you-tube playthroughs for novices like me.

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RE: Game enhancements - 2/13/2014 7:52:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hmm i cant recall at the moment if cog has an ingame tutorial, and am away from my home computer to check. I found myself having to read the manual

Yes i am hoping someone out there will do a new napoleon game soon - my continual wish is that someone would redo empire interactives Wargamer Napoleon 1813 . That game was released in 1999 in a broken state however it is by far the most ambitious and visionary napoleonic title ever released. With a staggering amount of detail and a comprehensive operational campaign coverijng the 1813 campaings in germany in detail. It was also scaleable real time and with fog of war and good ai and also tactical battles that were just as detailed. It is my spiritual favorite of all napoleonic era pc games, and what wargamer set out to achieve represents i feel the ideal against which all other games in the genre are to be measured


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RE: Game enhancements - 3/13/2014 12:30:17 PM   
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RE: Game enhancements - 3/14/2014 1:47:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		yes, i am hoping that Kirk23 can make good on updating this great game further - though i am still unsure how that will be possible as matrix have explained to me in other forums -over at slitherine that the developer ran off with the code and gave up on games or something and so the game is stuck as it is

- though i think the new lordz team should just go and create Napoleon at War 2 - i will happily do an 2d art for the game!

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RE: Game enhancements - 10/4/2014 4:39:56 AM   
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RE: Game enhancements - 10/22/2014 4:46:32 PM   
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RE: Game enhancements - 10/22/2014 5:14:26 PM   
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RE: Game enhancements - 10/22/2014 6:34:21 PM   
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RE: Game enhancements - 10/16/2015 10:43:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok a year has passed since I last did anything with this game,well I'm back to modding it and I will be making a new updated 1805 Campaign download available for anyone who still plays the game. I have been working on adding all the missing art to units in the game, as an example,the USA now has art done for Heavy Cavalry,Privateers & Bomb Sloops.Just in case you start to panic, the USA won't be starting the campaign in 1805,I think they join in 1812 if I'm not mistaken,any way the screen shot is for demonstration purposes only showing the new USA art in the game. I also will be looking to add new Commanders for USA & Spain etc.




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RE: Game enhancements - 10/16/2015 11:46:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		I still play off and on. I actually played for a bit a couple weeks ago. Thanks for the continued work on it!

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RE: Game enhancements - 10/16/2015 12:15:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Cheers! Is there anything you would like to see added to the game?

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RE: Game enhancements - 10/16/2015 8:02:58 PM   
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RE: Game enhancements - 10/17/2015 9:17:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know how many gamers agree with me on this,but I would like to try and change the start date for the main campaign game to 1803.

Because at the start of the Napoleonic wars it was only Britain and France that were at war!

Austria & Russia etc joined them in 1804 I believe, chances are the game will be hard coded,meaning that I can't start the scenario 2 years earlier,if that is the case,then I will change the starting units positions about,especially down at Gibraltar,where the battle of Trafalgar is due to begin on game turn one.
I personally don't like that setup,so as of the scenario start date of 1st October 1805 all these ships will be elsewhere scattered all over the map,meaning that Trafalgar won't happen,since the game is a what if and not historical.

I will also try to see if I can remove the blockage to free movement between the mediterranean and the Atlantic,caused by the Port at Gibraltar, I intend to move the port hex,so that the blockage is removed,I would also like to add a port at Malta if possible.

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RE: Game enhancements - 10/17/2015 1:20:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		One issue I have seen time and time again is the AI in the later half of the game. It only produces infantry. It never makes artillery or cavalry. Once I have destroyed the cavalry and artillery it starts with, I never see anymore, just hordes of infantry. It doesn't matter what side the AI is playing either.

Is there a way to fix that or is that something hard coded too?

I also see a mismanagement of the AI's generals. They will leave good generals in unimportant towns while I am cutting through the rest of their army. They will sit and wait for you to come to them, or just go around them and they will never move, letting themselves be cut off. Perhaps there is some code for the behavior of AI units overall that might fix this?

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RE: Game enhancements - 10/18/2015 12:55:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		I will see what can be done about the AI strategy.

But what I can do is add a new naval unit,the Sloop is cheaper than a Frigate,its faster than a Frigate, and its better at looting enemy Merchantmen.

NB: There is room in the production screen to add 3 more Land Unit Types if anyone would like more added please let me know.




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RE: Game enhancements - 10/18/2015 12:58:33 AM   
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