Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Tomcat84

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ORIGINAL: mikmyk

Add a generic unit like a truck, car, building and add the sensors to it.

Just to make sure my brain isn't missing something:

- if I take a car on the enemy AI side and add for example a Tall King sensor to it to be a decoy and turn it on, my player side will get the emissions, but the enemy will actually get the sensor info too, right? It will be a working Tall King that produces data? There isnt a way to have the sensor emit the signal but not actually produce useful info?

It's not a big problem but if there is a simple way then I am interested in knowing :)

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ORIGINAL: mikmyk

Actually no. Just add another side for the decoys that has an awareness level of blind. Easy.

Don't name the side decoys

Mike

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Ausairpower: Suppose the Russians don’t quite master stealth to the degree of the F-22A, but manage a RCS of 0.01 square metres from all aspects. The F-22A’s APG-77 will detect the PAK-FA at ~40 nm and the F-35’s APG-81 at ~30 nm. Passive electronic surveillance might increase detection ranges, but this still makes long-range missile shots problematic, as tracking depends upon the opponent emitting, which smart opponents will try not to do.
The PAK-FA’s radar can be expected to be an improvement on the IRBIS-E so at front-on aspects might detect the F-22A at ~15 nautical miles and the F-35 at ~28 nautical miles; and from side and rear aspects, the F-22A at ~43 nautical miles and the F-35 at ~51 nautical miles.

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FRONT

F-22 sees T-50 @ 50nm in game -> should be 40nm
T-50 sees F-22 @ 35nm in game -> should be 15 nm

F-35 sees T-50 @ 31nm in game -> should be 30nm
T-50 sees F-35 @ 40nm in game -> should be 28 nm

SIDE & REAR (tested in game from side)

F-22 sees T-50 @ 45nm in game -> should be ? nm
T-50 sees F-22 @ 40nm in game -> should be 43 nm

F-35 sees T-50 @ 28nm in game -> should be ? nm
T-50 sees F-35 @ 44nm in game -> should be 51 nm

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ORIGINAL: Dutchie999

I have another good one to add to the database. The new K-77M (izdeliye 180) air to air missile for the Sukhoi T-50. Designed to compete with the new AIM-120D.

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ORIGINAL: Hydrolek

Next polish "low defense" system:

23 MM ANTI-AIRCRAFT MOBILE GUN AND MISSILE SYSTEM ZUR-23-2KG

Polish Army air defence systems/ The Wisła programe.
zur 23 2kgi

The ZUR-23-2-KG system is equipped with 23mm cannons, GROM missiles, traverse and elevation electric drives. It can work in external FCS, it is equipped with programmable sight CP-1 (with night and day track, LRF, two ballistics ) or collimator sight CKE-2. The system can fight the targets by means of 23mm sub-calibre ammunition type API (BZT), HEI-T (OFZT), APDS-T and FAPDS-T.

The ZUR-23-2-KG system is designed to fight (using 23mm cannons and GROM missiles) low-flying air targets such as: aircraft, helicopters, winged rockets, unmanned flying objects, landing troops and unarmoured and lightly armoured ground targets.

Main characteristics:

Weapon 2 x 23 mm cannon
2 x GROM missile launchers
Firing angles Horizontal 360 degrees
Vertical from -5 / -3 to +75 degrees
Practical rate of fire up to 400 rds./min. for one gun
Cannon range: maximal vertical/total/
maximal effective for ground targets 1500/2500/2000 m for API and HEI
2000/3000/2500 m for APDS and FAPDS
Maximal range of GROM missiles 5500 m
Height of the target flight
minimal/maximal for GROM missiles 10/3500 m
Missile firing angle Horizontal 360 degrees
Vertical from 0 to +70 degrees


high reliability,
good technical and tactical features allow to fire the targets (which appear unexpectedly and move in different directions) with great efficiency,
the collimator sight CKE-2 or programmable sight CP-1 generates automatically (during target tracking) the proper leading angles for every action on the battlefield,
firing from different places in different weather and time conditions,
adaptation to the use of new, sub-calibre ammunition and GROM missiles,
adaptation to work in external FCS.

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ORIGINAL: Dutchie999


I have another good one to add to the database. The new K-77M (izdeliye 180) air to air missile for the Sukhoi T-50. Designed to compete with the new AIM-120D.

I just did some testing of air engagements with F-22 and F-35 against T-50's and I noticed some strange things. The T-50 can see the F-22 much earlier on it's radar. 75nm and the F-22 can see the T-50 from 50nm away on it's radar. Shouldn't this be the other way around? But even then, these sound like very long detection ranges for advanced stealth aircraft.

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Ausairpower: Suppose the Russians don’t quite master stealth to the degree of the F-22A, but manage a RCS of 0.01 square metres from all aspects. The F-22A’s APG-77 will detect the PAK-FA at ~40 nm and the F-35’s APG-81 at ~30 nm. Passive electronic surveillance might increase detection ranges, but this still makes long-range missile shots problematic, as tracking depends upon the opponent emitting, which smart opponents will try not to do.
The PAK-FA’s radar can be expected to be an improvement on the IRBIS-E so at front-on aspects might detect the F-22A at ~15 nautical miles and the F-35 at ~28 nautical miles; and from side and rear aspects, the F-22A at ~43 nautical miles and the F-35 at ~51 nautical miles.

To make it more clear (using only radar!):

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FRONT

F-22 sees T-50 @ 50nm in game -> should be 40nm
T-50 sees F-22 @ 75nm in game -> should be 15 nm

F-35 sees T-50 @ 100nm in game -> should be 30nm
T-50 sees F-35 @ 75nm in game -> should be 28 nm

SIDE & REAR (tested in game from side)

F-22 sees T-50 @ 45nm in game -> should be ? nm
T-50 sees F-22 @ 40nm in game -> should be 43 nm

F-35 sees T-50 @ 28nm in game -> should be ? nm
T-50 sees F-35 @ 44nm in game -> should be 51 nm

By the way it is interesting to see how after a long time BVR dominated air combat and now with stealth fighter aircraft, the planes will be once more closer to each other.

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ORIGINAL: fool12342000

AN/APG-82(V)1 for F-15E ?

http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/apg82v1/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/APG-63_radar_family#AN.2FAPG-82.28V.291

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AN/APG-82

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ORIGINAL: mikmyk

Can you post a picture of the missile as well as the source of your data? We ask because people will ask us. :)

Will look at the radar issues. Might be IRST but will see.

Thanks!

Mike

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Source : Russia & CIS Observer
Date : 17 June 2007
Author : Piotr Butowski

Russia's new-generation PAK FA fighter — being developed by the Sukhoi Design Bureau — will have not only feature a new airframe, radar, avionics and engines. It also will be equipped with new-generation weapons that are being evolved in two parallel paths: the continued modernization of existing missiles with stepped improvement of their capabilities; and the design of next-generation weapons.

GosMKB Vympel, Russia's leading air-to-air missile design bureau, is busy evolving a full spectrum of missiles for the PAK FA, ranging from short-range weapons to long-range variants. In 2010, Vympel expects to complete its development of the short-range Izdeliye 760 missile — which is a significantly modernized version of the R-73 weapon, outfitted with an inertial flight control system and course correction receiver, improved rocket engine and with new multi-mode infrared seeker. The Izdeliye 760 is expected to be a close counterpart to the Western-built ASRAAM and Sidewinder AIM-9X missiles.

Three years later, the new-generation K-MD short range missile (also to be designated the Izdeliye 300) is to be operational. When compared to Izdeliye 760, the new missile will have longer range and will be capable of being launched from any direction; it will be also more resistant to jamming. The K-MD will be fitted with a new imaging infrared seeker enabling identification of target according to memorized images. The seeker's lock-on range will be two times greater than the seeker for the Izdeliye 760 missile. A new adaptive warhead will be introduced, and the missile's control will be performed with aerodynamic surfaces, as well as a thrust-vector engine nozzle.

Russia's most modern medium-range air-to-air missile is the R-77 (Izdeliye 170) and its export derivative RVV-AE (Izdeliye 190). A phased modernization of this weapon, designated the K-77-1 (Izdeliye 170-1), is now being tested. In addition, the K-77M (Izdeliye 180) missile is currently under development as a second step in the R-77's modernization. The most visible change in the Izdeliye 180's external appearance compared to the R-77/RVV-AE is replacement of its latticework fins by more common flat aerodynamic control planes. This reduces aerodynamic drag and cuts down on the radar cross-section. The missile will be fitted with a modernized active radar seeker and new double pulse solid-propellant engine. Its maximum range will be 2-3.5 times more than the Izdeliye 170 (R-77) missile, depending on the launch altitude. The Izdeliye 180 is expected to be better than the AMRAAM AIM-120C7 missile, and equal to its successor versions, with a service-ready date targeted for 2010.

A future medium-range air-to-air missile as a follow-on to the Izdeliye 180 also is in development, but no additional information has yet to be released about this weapon.

Russia is the only country developing ultra-long range air-to-air missiles able of reach targets at distances of up to 400 km. Two such missiles are competing to be a basic weapon on the PAK FA fighter: the Izdeliye 172 (K-100) from Novator, and the Izdeliye 810 from Vympel.

All air-to-air weapons on the PAK FA (including the largest Izdeliye 172 missile) are designed to be carried in the aircraft's internal weapons bay. To allow these weapons to be deployed from the internal bay, Vympel is designing two types of ejection release units capable of carrying 300 kg and 700 kg loads.

The PAK FA also is expected to carry its basic complement of air-to-ground weapons internally. These include the modernized Kh-58Ush long-range anti-radiation missile, the newly-developed Kh-36 short-range anti-radiation missile, the new short-range electro-optical Kh-38 missile, as well as the UAB-250 and KAB-500M guided bombs. Heavier weapon types will be carried on the aircraft's external pylons.

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ORIGINAL: Dutchie999


new K-77M (izdeliye 180)

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ORIGINAL: mikmyk

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ORIGINAL: fool12342000

AN/APG-82(V)1 for F-15E ?

http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/apg82v1/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/APG-63_radar_family#AN.2FAPG-82.28V.291

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AN/APG-82

We've got this on our list but don't know yet when when it goes into service. Any ideas?

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ORIGINAL: Mgellis

Two quick questions...

First, just curious...any news on when chemical and/or biological weapons are going to be implemented in Command? (How would you do this...maybe they can only affect "soft" targets--armored vehicles can be sealed, etc.?)

Second, I'm not sure how this would be implemented, but any chance we could have an SDI beam weapon? (This was never actually built, of course, but I suppose they could be built now...or perhaps an experimental prototype gets put into orbit around 1987...maybe a Soviet one...those pesky Soviets, stealing all our secrets and then using them against us!) Basically, it would be a satellite-mounted particle beam (probably just use the data for the laser weapons, but maybe change the range) that could be used against missiles OR against other satellites. If there is only one or two of them, I suspect it's real value would be as a satellite-killer.

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ORIGINAL: mikmyk

Pretty sure this is part of Kobra system correct?

Do you have an data on the MMR radar associated with it?

Thanks!

Mike

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ORIGINAL: Barny

I am missing this one in the German (FGR) Luftwaffe part of the DB3000

From Wikipidia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-29

The German Democratic Republic (also known as East Germany) bought 24 MiG-29s (20 MiG-29As, four MiG-29UBs), which entered service in 1988–1989. After the fall of the Berlin Wall in November 1989 and reunification of Germany in October 1990, the MiG-29s and other aircraft of the East German Air Forces of the National People's Army were integrated into the West German Luftwaffe.[citation needed]

The Federation of American Scientists claims the MiG-29 is equal or better than the F-15C in some areas such as short aerial engagements because of the Helmet Mounted Weapons Sight (HMS) and better maneuverability at slow speeds.[68] This was demonstrated when MiG-29s of the German Air Force participated in joint DACT exercises with US fighters.[69][70] The HMS was a great help, allowing the Germans to achieve a lock on any target the pilot could see within the missile field of view, including those almost 45 degrees off boresight.[71] In contrast, the American aircraft were only able to lock onto targets in a narrow window directly in front of the aircraft’s nose. It was not until late 2003 that the USAF and US Navy achieved Initial Operational Capability of the Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System.

Since 1993 the German MiGs were stationed with 1./JG73 "Steinhoff" in Laage near Rostock. During the service in the German Air Force one MiG-29 ("29+09") was destroyed during an accident on 25 June 1996 due to pilot error. By 2003, German Air Force pilots had flown over 30,000 hours in the MiG-29. In September 2003, 22 of the 23 remaining machines were sold to the Polish Air Force for the symbolic price of €1 per item.[72] The last aircraft were transferred in August 2004.[73] The 23rd MiG-29 ("29+03") was put on display at Laage.
Barny