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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/24/2014 12:41:30 AM   
Mike Solli


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4 Jan 43

Sub War

The RO-102 was patrolling off the Australian coast near Cooktown when she was caught and sunk by some DEs. That area is becoming too dangerous a hunting ground for my subs. I’m going to pull them out of there.

In the gap between Okinawa and Kyushu, I caught a US sub (Pollack?) and hit her with a depth charge. She was reported as sunk, but I’m sure she isn’t. Hopefully, it isn’t FOW and she’ll head home.

5 Fleet

The bombardment fleet finally left, but the bombers made their daily run. Adak’s damage is:

Port: 100%
Airfield Service: 94%
Runway: 97%

Still no supply, but I’ll resume the PB fast transport convoys tomorrow.

4 Fleet

Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

Not much happened today. My bombing run of Ternate destroyed a Kittyhawk IA and damaged a couple others. It appears there’s 2 squadrons of fighters there, but the airfield is still at level 1.

My naval search identified a TF at Luganville. KB1 was too far to the west to attack, but if I angled them to the NE, I could just hit a point after the AM movement to be at 7 hexes from Luganville. I thought long and hard about it and decided to go for it. Keeping fingers crossed hoping it wasn’t an ambush.

SRA

Nothing to report.

Burma

A sentai of Helens hit Chittagong killing a few fighters on the ground, damaging almost a dozen more, and causing moderate damage to the airfield.

China

Nothing to report.

Other Stuff

Reinforcement:

TK Takane Maru (Type-1 TM – 8150 capacity) – to Babeldaob to haul oil/fuel to the Home Islands.


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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/24/2014 12:45:38 AM   
Mike Solli


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5 Jan 43

Sub War

Nothing to report (finally).

5 Fleet

Allied bombing of Adak, causing no additional damage.

But, there was some excitement. My cruiser bombardment TF was in position to bombard Unmak Island. I had a couple Glen subs check out Unmak and Dutch Harbor, and I’m glad I did. The US BB TF is sitting at Unmak Island and there are a couple of TFs at Dutch Harbor, and one of them shows 2 CVs! Needless to say, the cruiser TF will not head to Unmak. It’s heading west a bit to stay out of Allied naval search range. KB2 is still heading north. I refueled it yesterday so it’s ready to go. I’m hoping to ambush the carriers (if they really are carriers).

Ted inadvertently gave away some good intel in our discussions on the Noumea attack. It’s below.

4 Fleet

Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

KB1 bended to the east and, sure enough, ended the AM turn exactly 7 hexes from Luganville. There were three attacks. The first was composed of 23 Zeros and 13 Kates against 8x F4F-3s and 6x F4F-4s. One Zero was lost. The Kates sank an xAKL.

The second attack was composed of 39 Zeros and 25 Kates, opposed by 7x F4F-3s and 6x F4F-4s. No Japanese planes were lost and 2 Wildcats went down. The Kates put a 250kg bomb into the DE Parrott and 2 bombs into the AP J. Franklin Bell. I don’t believe either went down. Ted told me later that the AP will eventually upgrade to an APA. I hope she sinks.

The final attack of 10 Zeros and 17 Kates (no opposition) sank the DE Litchfield and xAKL Karuah with torpedoes.

I’d really like to get that AP, along with any escort vessels I can get. I’m sending KB1 farther to the east to end 6 hexes away from Luganville, so my Vals can get into the fray tomorrow. We’ll see what happens.

SRA

Nothing to report.

Burma

Same old same old.

China

Nothing to report.

Other Stuff

Reinforcements:

TK Kanto Maru (Std-E – 860 capacity) – To the SRA.
17 Garrison Unit – 14 Army – will only be around a year.

A6M5b R&D advances to 9/43.

During our discussions, Ted mentioned that he actually had 2 carriers at Noumea (their air complements were on training) and that he had hoped I would have stuck around another turn. Then I would have had to deal with an additional 72 Wildcats, and 66 bombers. That told me that he has configured his CVs to carry 36 Wildcats, 18 Dauntlesses and 15 Avengers. It’s very nice to know that.

He also said this:

“FOW hit me hard. That TF was only spotted once, was reported as AK's, and the position it was in when reported made it appear as a supply run. Next turn it was gone. Or it was never spotted...hard to tell. No mysterious radio signals in the sigint file either. You got lucky :)”

One other thing. He started that email that had the turn with “Morning you sumbitch”.


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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/25/2014 12:08:12 AM   
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Sub War

Finally a success (at least from Japanese eyes). That US sub that has been frolicking around Truk ate a depth charge today. She’s just damaged, but I’m sure Ted will send her home to get repaired. It was one of those new Type 2 DCs. Very nice.

A few hexes north of Okinawa, the Plunger sank an Ehime class xAK. That was my fault. I wasn’t paying attention to that TF and didn’t set their route properly. The only consolation was that she had already unloaded.

I’m quickly learning that the PBs are of little use as ASW ships. Most use the Type 95 DC. They don’t have the depth (range?) to reach subs in deep water. Their only benefit is that they prevent Allied subs from surfacing and attacking on the surface. They are torpedo magnets. I am going to have to rethink my convoy escort plan.

The SCs aren’t much better. Their short range prevents them from being used as convoy escorts, so I use them in ASW TFs. Being tiny, they are hard to hit, so sub torpedoes usually miss. When they do get hit – matchsticks. They do attack relatively frequently, but rarely do any damage. I guess their benefit is that they use up Allied sub torpedoes so the subs have to go back to port to replenish more quickly. I get a lot of them, so I’m not too worried about losing them.

5 Fleet

Ted has several TFs hanging around in and near Dutch Harbor. Today, I just saw the generic types, cargos mainly, but there was one with CAs. That’s probably the bombardment TF. No sign of any carriers. I’m still moving forward with my plan and KB2 is moving north, still a few days from being in position to attack. I want to attack with my carriers from the SE of Dutch Harbor. That’ll keep me away from Unmak Island, where his air units are located. I still don’t think he has any fighters in the area, at least there aren’t any that can reach Adak. I want to attack from 7 hexes away. That prevents me from using my Vals effectively (2x 60kg bombs at 7 hexes vs. 1x 250kg bomb at 6 hexes). That’s ok. I keep their max range at 6 hexes. If anything blunders to within that range, the Vals will get them.

My cruiser fleet is safely out of range, but still hanging around, if needed. There’s an ASW TF just to the NW of Dutch Harbor. I think it’s going after one of my subs in the area. Should it head to Adak (he’s done that before), I’ll send in the cruisers for a bit of target practice.

Adak is getting supply again. The base is up to 545 with lots more in the pipeline. The ground units are repairing their disrupted squads and the engineers are working on the airbase. The runway damage is down 7% to 89%. It’ll be a while.

My ground unit reinforcements are nearing the Aleutians. I’ll hold them at Amitchka and send the ships in one at a time. I’ll probably send in some tanks first, since they’re going to arrive first.

Amitchka has received most of an air support unit. I want to station fighters there (Hiryu’s old fighter daitai, which I’ve been using for training). I’m going to send another air support unit to Attu. That one will house an Emily chutai from the Home Islands. Unfortunately, it will take a bit of finagling to do. The Emily unit is permanently restricted so the unit heading to Attu must be non-restricted to get there, then change to General Defense Army. Then, I can change Attu to General Defense Army so I can base the Emilies there. Fortunately, I have plenty of PPs to do that (currently 2700).

The Zeros that I station at Amitchka will be in and out of there. I’m going to use them to beat up on the Allied bombers from time to time. I don’t want to keep them there constantly, because Ted might send a fleet to visit them. I don’t want that.

I have a minelaying sub a few hexes off Adak fully loaded. If I see a fleet headed toward Adak, she’ll move in and unload her eggs. My goal is to have as many different platforms to counter Ted as possible. The mines will erode (which is why I haven’t laid them yet) but if I dump them at the right time and a fleet visits and eats one or two, that’ll slow Ted down. That’s the name of the game now, slow Ted down.

Finally, a midget sub arrived at Adak. Yeah, I know they’re pretty much useless, but you never know when you’ll get a shot in. Even if the sub misses (likely), the sub may force the enemy fleet to use op points and prevent it from effectively doing the nastiness it came to do.

4 Fleet

I keep saying that nothing is happening here. Actually, all kinds of things are happening here. I’m building up forts everywhere. Two of the 4 Marianas Islands are at fort level 6, with one increasing to 7. The other 2 are at 5+. I also ship troops there as I get them. My goal is to make those islands miserable for Ted to take. They will all have plenty of infantry, tanks, artillery and CD guns. I have plenty of air support so I can station aircraft there should the need arise. Currently, only ASW/naval search is present there. There is no need for anything else right now. The occasional Allied sub transits the area, probably headed to another hunting ground. It’s good practice for my pilots.

I build up airfields and ports very rarely because I don’t want to give a good base to the Allies. I understand that he will eventually be able to take just about any base he wants, but he’ll have to work to build them up (not that it will take much time with all the SeaBees he gets).

Aside from the Marianas, my major bases in this region are Truk and Kwajalein, with Kwajalein being only marginal. Everything else is pretty much the way it was when the war started other than increased forts. Wake is maxed out (6k troop max) with max forts. It has a tiny Nell (G3M3) unit of 2 planes that does naval search out toward Midway Island. Wake is just a speed bump, but one that can potentially trash an enemy regiment.

SE Fleet

The only bombing that happened for either side was my night bombing of Terapo. Minor damage there.

I have quite a few subs surrounding Noumea, just in case his carriers are still there. Ted said he pulled them out, but if the Yorktown took decent damage from the bomb hit, he may not have risked pulling her out. At any rate, I’ll have my subs hang around for a week or two, just in case.

Rabaul and Gasmata are still holding their own against Ted’s occasional bombing attacks. He still doesn’t have any fighters that can reach Rabaul and they usually get butchered when they fly over Gasmata. Shortland Island currently has only a sentai of Tojos, and hasn’t been bothered in a while. I may station some Betties there, just in case. None of my airbases in the area currently have any damage.

SRA

Other than the sub that is sitting off Davao, Ted is leaving me alone here. In my constant effort to harass Ted, I am building up an airfield (to level 2) at Saumlaki, which is one of the line of islands south of Ambon. It just reached level 1 today. If you recall, Ted kept Merauke and resisted a couple of my attempts at invading that damn base. That area is primarily under his control, but I night bomb Merauke when the bombers fly (1x sentai of Helens flying out of Hollandia). The damage is slight and easily repaired but I do destroy the odd fighter on occasion. Anyway, Ted keeps a small surface fleet to the west of Merauke, exactly 12 hexes from Saumlaki. It just sits there, apparently for defense. Merauke (which has 1x squadron of P-60 night fighters and 1 other squadron of fighters) is 14 hexes from Saumlaki. I have a 36 plane daitai and 9 plane chutai of Nells stationed at Ambon. Once Saumlaki reaches level 2, I’m going to move the planes there and set them at a 12 hex limit. Eventually, they’ll go after the surface fleet. I usually have ~3 subs in the area. I’ll make sure the subs are to the east, to pick off any cripples that survive the Nell onslaught. That’s my plan, anyway.

All of the stuff I get from Palembang (and all of Sumatra, actually) goes to Singapore. From there, large convoys move directly to the Home Islands. They have CVE support (ASW Vals) and some serious escorts. The convoys move on a specific route staying to shallow hexes as much as possible. I have air and sea ASW along that route for the most part. With the exception of the deep water hex just NW of Pescadores (which is not part of the route, but adjacent to it), Ted doesn’t have any subs around here. He will, eventually. Right now I have 4x Tonans (the 5th is still repairing after eating 2 torpedoes last July), 8x 12.8k TK, 11x 11.6k TK and 5x 8150 TK hauling fuel and oil (as well as some xAKs for resources). They are just keeping up with the production in the area. If I lose any, I’ll start to build up in Singapore. I’ll probably add a few more of the 8150 TKs to that convoy, just to be safe. I am getting a string of them out of production over the next few weeks. (The rest of those TKs are going to Manila or Babeldaob to haul oil/fuel to the Home Islands from those hubs.)

Miri and Brunei ship all of their oil/fuel to Cam Ranh Bay. CRB has a convoy that ships the stuff to Nagasaki. Here’s how I set this one up (it works perfectly). Miri’s oil was repaired to 300 and the refinery kept at 150. Brunei’s oil was repaired to 20. I set Miri to stockpile oil and Brunei to stockpile fuel (next game I’ll reverse it). Each base has 9x 1250 TKs in 2 TFs (4 & 5) with escort (1 To’su each). They are all set to CS to CRB. CRB’s convoy is 4x 11.6k TKs (46.4k capacity) with escort (3x Wakatakes I think, but it doesn’t matter). That convoy moves constantly, alternating fuel and oil. It’s the perfect set up. After it hauls one commodity and returns, there’s just enough of the other to fill the TKs and do it all over again. I wish the other routes were that perfect.

With the sub harassment off Davao, I have switched my hub from there to Manila and Babeldaob. Manila first.

Since I took the Philippines, Manila has been hauling resources to the Home Islands. Aside from what is mined there, there are about 5 islands to the south that produce resources. I use small xAKL convoys to ship it to Naga. (I think. It’s the base at the very tip of the southern PI peninsula.) Now, I also ship fuel from Tarakan there. That’s not a lot of fuel (24k per month) but I’m staying away from Davao for a while.

Babeldaob is the new hub for Babo and Boela, as well as the excess fuel produced from Java (about 40k per month). The oil from Samarinda also goes here. Balikpapan send’s its fuel to Truk. I use 2x convoys, each of 4x 7950 TKs and 4x Ansyu-C PBs. These run constantly and use most of the fuel produced at Balikpapan. The remaining fuel goes where needed.

Burma

Ted didn’t fly today. I guess he’s rebuilding his air units. My fighters are full of highly experienced pilots. They usually tear apart any air opposition. It’s fun to watch. Ted often says in emails how frustrated he is in this area. He thought he’d be running rampant here, but I constantly tear up the RAF and have his main army bottled up between Cox’s Bazaar and Akyab (on the road). Most of my army is there as well, but I have several other divisions that are free to maneuver. My attack to take Akyab is about a week off. Just waiting for the last of the assault units to get in position.

Back to my air force. I have most of the 3 Air Division in Burma. A few units are elsewhere. There are some recon units scattered around the SRA and a fighter sentai defending Palembang. The fighters, as I mentioned above, have high experience pilots. Every now and then, I pull out a few with experience in the 70s and replace them with some at 50-52. They gain experience very quickly. I have 5x bomber sentai (4x Helen and 1x Sally) here as well. They fly primarily night bombing raids. If they flew during the day, they would eventually be decimated. I don’t have the production to handle that. I produce 120 Helens and 40 Sallies a month, more than I expected to produce, by the way. The plan was for 90 & 40. Eventually, when I go on the defensive in Burma, I’ll pull the bombers out and use them for ASW. At that point, I expect to reduce my bomber production by 60-90.

The 22 Air Flotilla is also stationed in this theater. Most are stationed at Pt. Blair – 36 Zeros and 36 Betties, along with recon/flying boat. I have 45 Zeros on a CAP mission over Rangoon. I also have 45 Nells (G3M3 model) at Little Andaman Island. They can just reach Colombo at normal range. Ted has no fighters at Colombo. Eventually, they’ll pop some ships there. Finally, I have 31 Nells that have been flying naval search/naval attack out of Batavia. That reminds me:

I have Emilies flying naval search out of Christmas Island (IO) and Cocos Island, just in case Ted wants to sneak up on Java from that direction. Just today, I found an Allied TF to the SW of Christmas Island heading NE. I suspect it’s a bombardment force, to pester me and test the waters. I moved the Emily unit out of Christmas Island and replaced it with the Nells from Batavia. I’m hoping they blast the TF. I didn’t like putting them on the likely target, but I think it’s worth the risk. The only problem is that I have no subs in the area. I need to look at my sub allocation and have a division allocated here. Should be interesting tomorrow.

China

Not much happening here right now. Recall that I took Tuyun to build up to a level 2 airbase. I have achieved that a couple days ago and stationed an Oscar unit there. It’s the only Ki-43-IIa unit I have in China (the rest are the Ic). It’s trained for strafing and the plane carries 2x 250kg bombs at normal range (6 hexes). Tuyun just happens to be 6 hexes from Chungking, one of 2 bases that have Chinese air units. I’ve flown sweeps over Chungking the past few days with no bites from the Chinese fighters. I may move some bombers here to bomb Chungking or I may try a strafing attack with the fighters. I haven’t decided yet.

The 3 Tank Division is still taking replacements. It needs only 6 tanks and 8 motorized infantry squads to be up to full strength (other than some support squads). I was going to send it north to Urumuchi (however you spell it) to take the oil. I have a tank regiment and cavalry brigade rampaging around up there however and may try to take it with them first. We’ll see. At any rate, I don’t think Ted knows of the tank division’s existence. It’ll be a reserve for now. Soon, Northern China will be mine. I’m slowly pushing the Chinese into the 4 base box with Chunking in the SE part of the box. China is mine for the taking, at least everything other than that box. My intel says that there are over 500k troops in Chunking. If I can take most of the resources and LI that China still owns (500 LI and enough resources to support them I believe), then they’ll starve. I figure I’d capture about half of the LI intact. An extra 250 supply a day can’t hurt. If I am able to do this in China, I’ll form a ring of steel around that box and fly LRCAP over Chungking to kill transports trying to fly supply in. Then I’ll consider what to do with the excess, high experience, divisions in China. They won’t be able to be moved out very quickly, because of the PP cost.

Other Stuff

I’ve changed my thoughts on training pilots. The IJAAF pilot pool is now below 1000 constantly. I have upped the requirements for pulling pilots out on training and into the reserve. Here’s an example:

Right now, I have 350 IJAAF fighter pilots in the reserve. About half are in the 50-53 experience range and the rest are at 70+. I don’t pull fighters out of training units until they hit a minimum of 52 exp/73 air. If I had stayed at 50/70, I’d probably be out of pilots in the pool by now. Another option is to continue with the 50/70 requirement and then when I am out of pilots in the pool, pull the lowest pilots from the reserve to increase their levels.

I still have 1500 IJNAF pilots in the pool. I have increased their requirements as well but am thinking I should keep them at 50/70 so I can train more. I have only 150 pilots in the fighter reserve. Gotta think about that some more.

Total reserve pilots to date:

IJAAF: 1192
IJNAF: 678

I did notice that I got my increase in new pilots in training this month. That’s nice, but it will significantly increase my HI cost at the end of the month. I hope I can keep banking 100k HI each month. We’ll see.

One last thing. I’ve noticed that when my CLs upgrade, they lose their air capacity. I’m beginning to get all these 1 plane FP units. I’m going to increase their capacity to 9 (by using an AV). Then I’ll fill them out with ASW or naval search pilots and put them where needed. I may use them in pairs, 1 with ASW and the other with naval search pilots. Not sure if it helps, but it can’t hurt.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/25/2014 12:49:42 AM   
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I’m slowly pushing the Chinese into the 4 base box with Chunking in the SE part of the box. China is mine for the taking, at least everything other than that box. My intel says that there are over 500k troops in Chunking. If I can take most of the resources and LI that China still owns (500 LI and enough resources to support them I believe), then they’ll starve. I figure I’d capture about half of the LI intact. An extra 250 supply a day can’t hurt. If I am able to do this in China, I’ll form a ring of steel around that box and fly LRCAP over Chungking to kill transports trying to fly supply in. Then I’ll consider what to do with the excess, high experience, divisions in China. They won’t be able to be moved out very quickly, because of the PP cost.


I hope you intend to take Chungking and knock China completely out of the war rather than simply bottling them up.

It's well worth it, not just for the VP's or the industry, but for the units that are freed as well. I don't just mean combat troops either: if there's no Allied bases in China, then there's nowhere near the same demand for engineers, aviation support, AA units or aircraft.

You can turn Chungking into a machine to crank up the experience levels of your troops in China, and to reduce the cost of units before you buy them out (if a division takes heavy losses, buy it out on the cheap and send it on an island holiday). I've a whole host of elite divisions (10 divisions with 90+ EXP and even more in the 80's) that have been processed through the Chungking meatgrinder.

It does require a certain psychological indifference to take Chungking, though. There's a great deal of destroyed and disabled Japanese squads in the combat reports, but the Chinese losses are always much, much worse.

What are your house rules regarding buying out LCU's?

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/25/2014 1:46:50 AM   
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I’m slowly pushing the Chinese into the 4 base box with Chunking in the SE part of the box. China is mine for the taking, at least everything other than that box. My intel says that there are over 500k troops in Chunking. If I can take most of the resources and LI that China still owns (500 LI and enough resources to support them I believe), then they’ll starve. I figure I’d capture about half of the LI intact. An extra 250 supply a day can’t hurt. If I am able to do this in China, I’ll form a ring of steel around that box and fly LRCAP over Chungking to kill transports trying to fly supply in. Then I’ll consider what to do with the excess, high experience, divisions in China. They won’t be able to be moved out very quickly, because of the PP cost.


I hope you intend to take Chungking and knock China completely out of the war rather than simply bottling them up.

It's well worth it, not just for the VP's or the industry, but for the units that are freed as well. I don't just mean combat troops either: if there's no Allied bases in China, then there's nowhere near the same demand for engineers, aviation support, AA units or aircraft.

You can turn Chungking into a machine to crank up the experience levels of your troops in China, and to reduce the cost of units before you buy them out (if a division takes heavy losses, buy it out on the cheap and send it on an island holiday). I've a whole host of elite divisions (10 divisions with 90+ EXP and even more in the 80's) that have been processed through the Chungking meatgrinder.

It does require a certain psychological indifference to take Chungking, though. There's a great deal of destroyed and disabled Japanese squads in the combat reports, but the Chinese losses are always much, much worse.

What are your house rules regarding buying out LCU's?


I look at it this way:

Those units will just die on some island, rather than never being destroyed in China .

I believe they're playing PPs to cross borders, with exceptions for the Thai, etc.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/25/2014 2:55:49 AM   
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Yes, we pay for crossing borders. I'll most likely continue to take bases in China. I've heard horror stories about Chungking though.

Good point about the units in China vs. on an island.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/28/2014 1:05:57 AM   
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7 Jan 43

Sub War

Things are starting to heat up. Fortunately for me, several of his subs had duds. Do I remember reading somewhere that in Jan 43, the US sub torpedo dud rate drops to 50% or am I dreaming that?

Anyway, Ted did have some successes. He stationed the S-42 at Adak and sank a PB in a fast transport convoy. Ah well, such is life. I do want to get rid of that sub before I send in my reinforcements.

He took out an xAKL just off Truk. He had at least 2 subs around Truk, because I sank the Trout. Banzai!

5 Fleet

The supply level of Adak is rising again and the runway damage dropped another 7% to 89%. 38 days until the base force there can get CD guns.

KB2 is still a day or 2 from refueling and then will take a couple of days to get into position to attack Dutch Harbor. I still see several TFs sitting there.

4 Fleet



SE Fleet

I have a ring of subs around Milne Bay. I may abandon that tactic. One of them took a DC hit from an ASW TF and has to go to Rabaul for temporary repairs. His ASW is just too powerful for me to use subs in this way any more.

SRA

I spotted that TF that I thought was going to bombard Christmas Island. It's still heading NE. I sent a TF (3 CA, 1 CL, 8 DD) from Singapore to see if they can intercept it. If they continue on the course they are currently on, my Nells out of Little Andaman and Betties out of Pt. Blair will have a field day. They'll pass within 6 or 8 hexes of those bases. That's very curious. I have also moved the Ryuho, Taiyo and Unyo along with the 4 remaining BBs out of Davao to Singapore. It'll take a while for them to get there, but maybe they can be of use over there, especially the carriers.

Burma

Some night bombing of Chittagong happened here, but nothing of note.

My Akyab assault force is still not in position. I hate Burma. Everything moves so slow here.

China



Other Stuff

Reinforcement:
xAK Kakoruta Maru - Std-D - will convert to a TK.

The Ki-100-II R&D advanced to 5/45.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/28/2014 1:23:11 AM   
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7 Jan 43

Sub War

Things are starting to heat up. Fortunately for me, several of his subs had duds. Do I remember reading somewhere that in Jan 43, the US sub torpedo dud rate drops to 50% or am I dreaming that?



I don't know what the percentage is, but the American torpedoes work most of the time now. Heads up!

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/28/2014 1:41:52 AM   
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7 Jan 43

Sub War

Things are starting to heat up. Fortunately for me, several of his subs had duds. Do I remember reading somewhere that in Jan 43, the US sub torpedo dud rate drops to 50% or am I dreaming that?



I don't know what the percentage is, but the American torpedoes work most of the time now. Heads up!


-20%, so 60% working on 1/1/43.

Down to real working rates on 9/1/43, which should be 10% duds.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/29/2014 1:25:31 AM   
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Thanks Lokasenna. I thought it was something like that.

8 Jan 43

Sub War

This section is only going to get longer as the game proceeds. There is still a sub hanging out around Truk, just to the SE. Any TFs entering or leaving Truk need to do it from the north.

The I-29 took a hit from some Allied DDs a few hexes to the E of Dutch Harbor. That area is teeming with TFs now. Her damage is 33-43(8)-4(2)-0. She’ll head to Etorofu for repairs.

5 Fleet

This was the area of Ted’s focus today. It started with the former bombardment TF (4 BB, 2 CLAA, 3DD) entering Adak and sinking 2x Ansyu-C PB on fast transport missions. They appear to have dropped at least some of their loads. The TF did not bombard. I’m not sure what their mission actually was. Ted and I are talking back and forth right now so maybe he’ll tell me.

Later that day, another PB was offloading supply and they were hit by 6x SBDs escorted by 6x Wildcats, flying from a dot hex. Smells like a carrier to me. Actually, upon checking the TF after the turn was over, I see more planes than a single carrier’s worth. I’ll wager there are 2 carriers there.

I need to make some decisions. KB2 is refueling tomorrow and about 1.5 days away from the action. KB1 will reach Truk tomorrow or the day after. I’m going to refuel KB1 and replenish aircraft, and then send them north as well. The slow replenishment fleet is full and sitting at Truk. I’ll send them north as well. The fast replenishment fleet has plenty of fuel available (>90% before refueling KB2). I still have the cruiser TF (4 CA, 4 CL, some DD) up north hanging out. Here’s the plane situation:

KB2: 108 Zeros, 18 Vals, 54 Kates
2 Allied CV: 72 Wildcats, 36 Dauntelsses, 30 Avengers
KB1: 135 Zeros, 72 Vals, 81 Kates

I also have a daitai of 27 Zeros (Hiryu’s fighter component) that I can fly to Amatchka (or whatever) or I can distribute them on the KB 2 but would have to remove the Vals (no big deal) and 9 Kates. I’d love to wait for KB1 to arrive, but that’s about a week off. Another option is to station them on the island and have them LRCAP KB2. That’s inefficient, but it’ll allow me to keep the bombers on the carriers. I still have a day or 2 to decide what to do. It’ll all depend on where I station KB2. If I come in from the west, that’ll work, but if I come in from the SE, I’ll need to station them on the carriers in order to use them.

I have an ACM and CMs with 150 mines headed toward Adak (a few days out) but I’m not sure I’ll get the opportunity to use them. I did send the I-124 in today to drop her 40 eggs. You never know when something good will come of that.

I got intel “heavy radio communication”, a TF east of the Aleutians around Kodiak Island headed west. My subs in the area are getting fewer in number from damage, but I’m going to send a Glen sub out that way to try to get some better intel. I wonder if it is an invasion fleet? So far, there is a CV TF, BB bombardment TF and a couple of ASW TFs. Sounds like a precursor to an invasion.

4 Fleet

Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

Only thing of interest was my night bombing of Pt. Moresby, which destroyed a couple of fighters on the ground and damaged about a dozen more, as well as causing light damage to the airfield.

SRA

The carriers and BBs got away from Davao safely and are on their way to Singapore. A sub attacked (and missed) an xAKL just south of Davao. There’s not much sailing in or out of Davao any more, mainly ASW TFs not doing their jobs.

That Allied TF in the IO west of Sumatra disappeared again. I’m hoping I pick it back up and attack it. That would be great.

Burma

Only Cox’s Bazaar was bombed today, killing a Hurricane on the ground and lightly damaging the airfield.

China

Nothing to report.

Other Stuff

Reinforcement:
TK Kyoie Maru – Type-1 TM (8150 capacity)

The war has seemed to be focused in three places (in my order of priority):

Aleutians: CVs, BBs, ASW and an unknown possibly large TF in the area. Looks like an invasion of Adak to me. I’m confident Ted doesn’t know I have carriers in the area. I’m aware of 4 BB, 2 CLAA, 3 DD and there is (are) 1-2 CVs with escorts there as well. At least 2 ASW TFs round out the offensive power. I have KB2 (Kaga, Ryujo, Shoho, Zuiho) with 108 Zeros, 18 Vals, 54 Kates and have 27 land based Zeros. KB1 (Akagi, Soryu, Shokaku, Zuikaku) is about a week away with 135 Zeros, 72 Vals, 81 Kates. I also have a surface TF (4 CA, 4 CL, 4 DD) in the area. I’m debating whether or not to send the Yamato, Musashi, Nagato & Mutsu up from Truk, but probably won’t go. I have the fuel available, but it’s a long, slow trip for them. The battle will most likely be over by then.

SE Fleet: Ted, in my opinion, was planning something here, but I’m sure it’s put on hold with the Yorktown being damaged a few days go. I still control the air over my bases, other than a few outlying ones. I think the threat is low for the next month or so. By that time, the Aleutians will be resolved one way or the other and KB will be free to assist here if needed.

Burma: This is the lowest threat, in my opinion. I have control of the air over my air bases and I have his main army bottled up on the road between Akyab and Cox’s Bazaar. In a few days, I’m going to attack and take Akyab from Ted. I also have 3 divisions (after taking Akyab) that are free to react to Ted’s incursions.

Let’s go back to the Aleutians for a minute. Let’s assume the worst, 4 US CVs. That would mean 144 Wildcats, 72 Dauntlesses, 60 Avengers. That’s a scary thought against just KB2, that includes 2 CVLs. I may come in from the west and ambush whatever heads toward Adak. I probably wouldn’t get a shot at the carriers, but I could get the surface fleet. That may be enough to postpone whatever Ted has planned for awhile. I’ll make my decision after the next turn.


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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/30/2014 2:15:07 AM   
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Sub War

The SSX Ha-32 had been sitting at Milne Bay for awhile when she spotted an xAKL dropping off supply there and took a shot. She missed, but lived to fight another day. She's going back to Gasmata to rearm while a midget sub there is moving to Milne Bay to replace her.

The I-15, patrolling off San Francisco, spotted an xAK and put a torpedo into her. No report of sinking, but she's got to be hurting.

A brand new TK that was moving (just got her yesterday) took a torpedo while moving to Nagasaki. Her damage isn't too bad (19-32(18)-5(5)-0). She'll continue to Nagasaki where she'll repair her damage.

There's a bit more but it's part of a longer story, so I'll discuss it below.

5 Fleet

Lots of moving parts here. A PB moved to Adak to drop off supply. Also, the I-124 entered Adak to drop off 40 mines. It just so happened that the Allied bombardment TF (4 BB, 2 CLAA, 3 DD) came back to Adak to bombard. They all ended up at Adak at the same time. The bombardment fleet caught the PB and badly damaged her. She sank later in the day. It was amazing that she survived that TF. Then, the I-124 put two torpedoes into the BB West Virginia! Banzai!! A destroyer prosecuted her causing light damage (28-8-0-0). She'll head back to Yokohama for repairs. The Allied TF stuck around and bombarded Adak causing no damage. Not a bad day at all.

My carriers were slower than expected. KB1 (returning to Truk) is still 9 hexes away. By tomorrow it'll be at Truk and refueled and rearmed. I'll replace aircraft and send them on their way north. KB2 missed its rendezvous with the tankers by a hex. They'll rendezvous 5 hexes north of where they are now and refuel. KB2 will be 19 hexes SW of Adak, 1 day away possibly. I sent the slow replenishment fleet out from Truk to head north today. All the parts are moving north albeit slowly. Hopefully, they'll all be able to participate.

Oh yeah, Junyo, Hiyo and Hosho are at Truk and will head north with KB1 tomorrow. I'll probably split them off and send them separately. They didn't leave today because I don't have any DDs to escort them. They'll get a few from KB1. They will add 66 Zeros, 36 Vals and 24 Kates to the mix if they make it in time.

4 Fleet

Nothing but building forts…

SE Fleet

The only excitement was the midget sub attack described above.

SRA



Burma

A little bit of bombing of Cox's Bazaar and Chittagong that caused little damage was all that occurred.

The Akyab invasion force continues to collect. Just a few more days…

China



Other Stuff

Nothing.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/31/2014 9:14:25 PM   
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Sub War

I think I have the record for the shortest lived ship. The TK Kyoie Maru (Type-1 TM, 8150 capacity) was completed on 8 Jan 43 at Nagoya and sailed for Nagasaki that day. On 9 Jan 43, she took a torpedo from the Tambor. She was moderately damaged and continued on the Nagasaki. On 10 Jan 43, she took another torpedo, this time from Permit. Down she went. Sheesh. What a waste.

The S-42 is still hanging out at Adak. She took a shot, and hit, a PB bringing in supply. The PB survived and offloaded just about all her supply. She’ll stay and drop the rest tomorrow.

5 Fleet

It’s a quiet day, but the battle isn’t over, it’s just beginning. I can see the US bombardment TF sitting in a dot hex a few hexes to the east of Adak. There’s another TF with it, but I’m not sure what it really is. I hope it isn’t the US carriers. My intel doesn’t show any Allied aircraft there, which is good. There are also a couple of ASW TFs around Dutch Harbor. I’m down to just a few subs left in the area, as most of them have taken damage are being repaired or limping back for repairs.

KB2 (Kaga, Ryujo, Shoho, Zuiho) refueled today and will steam north. If they steam the full 9 hexes available (they used some OP points to refuel), they may be just in range to hit the bombardment TF. I doubt it though. The cruiser TF (4 CA, 4 CL, 4 DD) will refuel tomorrow. All this refueling is being done from the fast replenishment fleet, which has >50k fuel left.

KB1 (Akagi, Soryu, Shokaku, Zuikaku) and KB3 (Junyo, Hiyo, Hosho) left Truk today in separate TFs, and are ~70 hexes away from the action. Say, 6 days. Yesterday, the slow replenishment fleet (49k fuel) left Truk heading north as well.

Adak is up to 1436 supply. The ground units are recovering their disabled squads and slowly accepting replacements. Damage is 100% Port, 94% service and 65% runway. The base force there is 35 days from a TOE change, where it gets CD guns. I really would like to get those guns. We’ll see if Adak survives long enough for that to happen. I’m curious to see how much supply is required in the hex for to be able to create the guns.

Other forces in the area:

Amchitka Island (I finally looked up the spelling): I have most of an AS unit there slowly building up the airfield (not even level 1 yet). I do have a 9 Emily chutai flying out of there providing excellent naval search to the east. I have an AV with 9 Jakes that will reach there tomorrow. The only real reason I have her there is to provide seaplane support for the Emilies so the AS can be used for other purposes. The Jakes will provide naval search or ASW as needed.

Attu: There currently is nothing there, but an AS unit is enroute for air support, if needed. The AV was there until a couple of days ago.

Etorofu: This is the sub base for 5 Fleet. It is also where I have the fast transport TFs originate. The Hiryu fighter daitai is hanging out here waiting for Amchitka’s airfield to reach level 1. Then they will fly in to provide CAP until the airfield reaches level 2 and other missions become available. Should Ted’s carriers appear, I will most likely swap out some carrier Vals for these fighters. If these fighters remain at Amchitka, they’ll fly LRCAP over Adak, since Ted has resumed flying ~10-15 sorties a day. I have noted that he is no longer using his SBDs for this bombing mission. I suspect he’s got them on naval attack from Unmak Island. I’ll stay out of SBD range (7 normal, 8 extended), just to be safe. If things go my way, I may just pull the Kongs (escorting my carriers) into a surface fleet and move them 8 hexes from Unmak Island with heavy LRCAP support, just to see if I can ambush the SBDs. That’s just a little thought in the back of my mind, and would only happen if I am wildly successful.

Amchitka Island has been changed to General Defense Army, so I can fly Nells here (from Japan) if I think they can be used effectively.

The additional ground forces are arriving, but I won’t send them in to Adak as long as the US BBs are around. Once my carriers make their grand appearance, I don’t think they’ll stick around. Hopefully, some will be on the bottom of the ocean. The ground forces include: a tank regiment, a garrison unit & an artillery unit.

I have 4x CMs a few days out. If they have a chance, they’ll drop off their 150 mines (to add to the 40 sub mines). An ACM is enroute as well. She’ll disband in port. We’ll see how long she survives.

4 Fleet

Forts, forts, forts!

SE Fleet

Terapo was hit by my bombers, destroying/damaging a few fighters. They were P-39Ds and Kittyhawk IAs. Yeah, impressive stuff.

SRA

Nothing to report.

Burma

My bombers did their usual night bombing. They’ve been taking 2-3 losses a day, in addition to some OP losses. I’ve decided to stand them all down for a few days. They’re losing more planes than they’re killing and Ted refuses to fly his fighters. I’ll continue to sweep his airfields and gather strength for the inevitable British/Indian attacks.

China

A week or two ago, Ted moved his forces at Nanchang (4x HQ, 5x Corps, 4x Base Forces) to Liuchow. I had 2/3 of an infantry division there. He attacked unsuccessfully. I moved another division (5 Division, an elite unit) there. They just arrived, over a river, so they performed a shock attack. The odds were only 1:2, but the losses were definitely on my side. I lost 981(2) Japanese to 1992(145) Chinese. They lost a lot of infantry. I’ll let the 5 Division rest a few days to recover disruption and disabled squads, then I’ll attack with everyone.

Other Stuff

So, here’s the final tally sheet of planes:

KB2: 108 F, 18 DB, 54 TB (108 torpedoes)
KB1: 135 F, 72 DB, 81 TB (171 torpedoes)
KB3: 66 F, 36 DB, 24 TB (42 torpedoes)

Allied:
2 CVs available: 72 F, 36 DB, 30 TB
4 CVs available: 144 F, 72 DB, 60 TB

I think there are only 2 US CVs present, but I’ll assume 4.

The positioning is tricky. Here are ranges of the aircraft involved:

Plane: Normal/Extended
F4F-4: 5/6
F4F-4(drop tanks): 8/9
SBD-3: 7/8
TBF-1: 6/8

A6M3a: 8/9
A6M3a (drop tanks): 12/15
A6M5: 7/8
A6M5 (drop tanks): 10/12
D3A1: 6/7
B5N1/2: 7/9

Here are some critical distances:

0-6 hexes: US torp, Val 250kg
7 hexes: US 1000lb, Kate torp, Max Val range
8 hexes: Max US DB/TB range
9 hexes: Max Kate range

If I come against only the BB TF, I want to be at 6 hexes. The Vals might get lucky and go after the escorts. Otherwise, 7 hexes for torpedoes.

If I come against the US CVs, 9 hexes is a thought. Only my Kates will fly, but they will carry 2x 250kg bombs. Several of those hits and the carriers are burning hulks, with his bombers stuck on the flight deck. That could be fun.

So, what am I willing to trade for, potentially, 2-4 CV and 3-4 BB, plus escorts? Ideally, just planes. Initially, I will be very conservative with KB2. Carriers, in general, are fragile, but Japanese CVL/Es are extremely fragile. I’ve got 3 of them in this TF. If I have a sniff of US carriers, my goal is 9 hexes. Their goal will be to damage the US carriers with the carrier bombers stuck on the flight deck. That will set everything up for KB1, the hard hitters. They’ll arrive to clean up whatever they can catch.


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Production Update (based on 1 Jan numbers)

Ok, it’s the new year. I look at the beginning of 1943 as a new phase in the war. The most critical event to happen is that the US torpedoes get a lot better. They’ll get even better later in the year, but they’re a lot better than they were yesterday. This will soon create havoc with my SLOC. I write this after the 10 Jan turn, and his US subs have already sunk 3x xAK, 1x xAKL and 1x TK, as well as damaging a modern DD. I hope he doesn’t continue to sink an average of 1 ship every other day. That’ll get old.

I have learned one critical lesson that I will attempt to rectify this game, and will definitely change in future games. Japanese ASW begins with the Type 95 DC, and progresses through the Type 95 Mod 2 to the Type 2. I now know that the Type 95 should be used exclusively in shallow hexes because of its limited maximum depth, which is higher than Allied subs can dive. Some Japanese escorts never get anything better than the Type 95. In deep hexes, they do nothing except waste supply. This weekend, I hope to work at moving my ASW forces to work to their strengths, but it’s going to take a while to fix it. In the meantime, my obsolete ASW forces will probably continue to kill fish.

The raw stats are at the bottom.

Supply: Going in the right direction, albeit slowly. My monthly production is just over 850k. It seems like a lot, but apparently it isn’t. My goal from here out is to increase it by at least 50k a month. That’ll get me to 4 million by mid-44. I’d like half of it to be in Japan.

Fuel: It’s doing pretty well. I expect it to go down by 1 Feb. I’m doing some major fleet operations, mainly up in the Aleutians (as if you didn’t know). The majority of KB and a good chunk of the Combined Fleet is burning lots of fuel up there. The goal is to have 3 million in Japan by mid-43.

Manpower: Chugging along.

Heavy Industry: My goal was 7500, and I exceeded it. I increased the HI at Singapore and Hong Kong modestly and increased Java’s HI to support the fuel produced there as well as the resources in the area. The rest came from China. I expect it to possibly increase a little more from some bases I’ll liberate in China over the next couple of months. The end result will be a slight increase in fuel, but I’ll get more HI too, so it’s all good. I am currently stockpiling ~4600 HI per day, but that will decrease each month this year as the increased pilot training program goes into full swing. My goal is still an increase of at least 100k HI per month in the pool or 2.8-3 million HI by mid-43.

Light Industry: I keep what I take and repair none. With my excess of resources, It is supply in the bank.

Refinery: I have 90 shut off at Loyang and 300 shut off in Burma. That is to prevent them from producing fuel that will move and lose some to wastage. I prefer the oil movement – no wastage. It means slightly less supply in the short term (2700/month in China and 3990/month in Burma –only 133 oil remaining in Burma) but the oil will eventually make its way to Japan and be converted there.

Resources: No problems here. I’m shipping it to Japan as quickly as I can.

Oil: Oil is slowly pretty stable right now (the past month was unusual). I expect the oil to remain constant at 2.6-2.7 million until Ted starts to work over my SLOC from Singapore. So far, he has only tested it just west of Japan in the deep hexes. That area has quite a few ASW TFs in it, but most of the ships have the Type 95 DC. That is top priority to fix.

Naval Shipyards: They’re chugging along. I have 6 (I think) CVs and 1 CVL accelerated. Shinano is off and Taiho is normal. I also have 4 DDs accelerated, which is all that are available to be accelerated. All of my SSTs are off. I occasionally switch a CV to normal because I use slightly more points than I get each day. That will eventually turn around and I’ll have extra points. I’ll probably eventually accelerate the Taiho (assuming I keep KB healthy and not swimming with the fishes).

Merchant Shipyards: They’re chugging along as well. I have nothing accelerated but quite a bit shut off. Right now I’m dropping 90 points a day. I’m going to go through and shut some more stuff off.

Armament points: I currently have 500 of the 620 points shut off. The pool is very slightly rising. I got some ground units in early January and the pool dropped to 94-5k, but it’s on the rise again. If it drops to 90k, I’ll turn everything back on for a week to pump it back up.

Vehicle points: I have all 150 factories producing. I’ll keep them on, probably for the duration. They are keeping up with use. I am very critical of what I upgrade, especially tank units.

TRACOM: My goal for January is 100 IJA and 120 IJN pilots in the pool. Right now I have a lot of elite pilots in KB right now (77). After the Aleutians battles are over, I’ll move some into TRACOM. I want a lot here to (hopefully) accelerate some pilots through their training in order to reduce HI expenditures there.

KIA/WIA/MIA: Losses are still less than graduates from pilot training.

Pilot Training: You can see that the 1-3 month training numbers have jumped significantly. That’s the beginning of the increase in pilot training. We’re going to need those extra pilots in a year.

Political Points: I have sufficient numbers of political points to do what I need to do. Still I keep an eye on my expenditures.

Score: I don’t really care about the score. The ratio is slightly >2:1, for those who care.

Lost Planes: The numbers are pretty even, but I hold a significant edge in Air-to-Air combat. I’ve got more of the other 3 categories. It’s only going to get worse.

Lost Troops: It looks bad for the Allies, and it is. Don’t worry, AFBs, it’ll get “better” for you when Ted begins his offensives, especially against islands and he starts killing off my units.

Ships Sunk: It wasn’t too bad last month. I did lose 2 subs and a midget sub. Ted lost a lot of cargo ships and at least one TK. Nothing extraordinary.






Edit: I accidentally cut off some stuff at the bottom:

Allied Ship Points 0 2,581 2,703 122 2,703
Japan Ships Sunk 0 178 188 10 188
Japan Ship Points 0 1,574 1,629 55 1,629


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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 10/31/2014 11:22:43 PM   
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Hey Mike,

Can you send me that spreadsheet, and I'll enter my own numbers? I'm curious.

I'm Scen 2 instead of Scen 1, but it would still be nice to compare.

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Do you think that is enough Supply -- 4 million in mid 44? Well, I guess the answer is yes, but could you elaborate a little on how you got there?

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Lowpe, I have no idea what really is needed, but here is my "math" and "logic". I'm planning on my SLOC from the SRA to Japan will be cut in mid-44, let's say 30 Jun 44.

I am assuming I will be able to move excess resources and oil from Fusan to Honshu and excess stuff from the other Home Islands to Honshu, even after the SLOC from the SRA is cut. Given that assumption, I will need certain amounts of stuff to get me an additional 18 months to the economy:

Oil: 2.5 million
Resources: 5.8 million
Fuel: 3 million
Supply: 1.8 million

The supply is to supplement what is produced by the HI, LI and refineries, about 100k a month. The supply part is pure guesswork. If the remainder of the empire is cut off from Japan, only Japan needs to be supplied from Japan. So, given the HI, LI and refineries in the Home Islands producing, they will produce about 635k supply a month, plus the 100k stockpiled is 735k supply a month or 24500 supply a day. Is that enough to survive? I honestly have no idea, but that's the initial plan.

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Thanks. Very interesting. Having target goals for the economy can be tough for Japan.

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Lowpe, I have no idea what really is needed, but here is my "math" and "logic". I'm planning on my SLOC from the SRA to Japan will be cut in mid-44, let's say 30 Jun 44.

I am assuming I will be able to move excess resources and oil from Fusan to Honshu and excess stuff from the other Home Islands to Honshu, even after the SLOC from the SRA is cut. Given that assumption, I will need certain amounts of stuff to get me an additional 18 months to the economy:

Oil: 2.5 million
Resources: 5.8 million
Fuel: 3 million
Supply: 1.8 million

The supply is to supplement what is produced by the HI, LI and refineries, about 100k a month. The supply part is pure guesswork. If the remainder of the empire is cut off from Japan, only Japan needs to be supplied from Japan. So, given the HI, LI and refineries in the Home Islands producing, they will produce about 635k supply a month, plus the 100k stockpiled is 735k supply a month or 24500 supply a day. Is that enough to survive? I honestly have no idea, but that's the initial plan.

Yes, very interesting. It sounds like enough supply, given that it's the end-of-the-world.

At what point (if ever) do you stop caring about anything except the home islands? And build no planes except fighters and kamikazes? Do you plan to expend your surface fleet in 1 way attacks like the Yamato did, or keep the remnants around to attract bombs that might otherwise be targeted at more valuable things? Should you seek a 'decisive battle' when the Allies attack the Marianas, knowing that even a big victory will only delay them a few months?

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Very good questions. I don't have any good answers. I've never gotten past mid-43, and that was with the old WitP.

I won't ever stop caring about the fringe. If I can do something to slow Ted somewhere, I'll do it, given the fact that the Home Islands are key. If there is a location that is producing HI (Java comes to mind), I'll do what I can to keep it going. If he chooses to bypass Java, that could be a lot of HI produced for the war effort.

Only fighters and Kamikazes? Anything is (and will be) a Kamikaze. I'll continue to build planes that can become good Kamikazes as long as I can. I'll probably figure that out as time goes on.

I am of the "fleet in being" mentality. If I have something out there that can destroy an invasion fleet, I'll keep it alive, if only to keep Ted guessing. That's not to say I won't use ships if I can do important damage with them. Killing off a few cruisers is unimportant, unless I can do it with aircraft from a distance. Then it's worth it. A surface battle is a waste. Even if you win, your ships take damage, which effectively removes them for quite a while.

The Marianas are, in my opinion, one of the key pieces of real estate. 2 of the 4 bases are at fort 6+ and the other two will reach level 6 soon. I'm going to pack them with troops and supply, along with substantial AS. I will fight for those islands. He probably will take them in the end, but he won't like it.

A decisive battle? No, but I want to pick him to death. Right now, there's stuff going on in the Aleutians of all places. I have an opportunity to sink some capital ships and possibly some carriers. I'm using a lot of fuel to do this, but I think it's one of those battles that is most likely stacked in my favor. I should take minimal ship damage. Only aircraft and valuable pilots, but I have a nice pool of IJN pilot replacements with more being added monthly. Will this materially affect the Allies? No, but it will make him pause the next time he attacks. If I can kill a couple of carriers, I'll have a nice carrier advantage for most of 1943. That give me more of what I need: time. There will eventually come a time where he has to attack, or he won't have the time to do what he needs to do to defeat me.

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Aleutians - During each turn I would click on hexes you are moving your CV/CVLs to get an idea what the weather will be for the next day along with where your opponents TFs are at. We both know that this isn't always accurate, but it can help. Since you are in the middle of winter up here, this factor could be decisive. During the four months of winter, invasions are very, very risky even with 100% prep. I think you will need to take some calculated risk up here with your CVs as you have just a few more months until the Hellcats come out and they can stand up to your Zeros.I would place a few subs on potential retreat paths of his CV if they get damaged to try to finish them off. Good luck my friend!!

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Very good advice as always, Michael. I never think of checking the weather. I also hadn't realized it was winter. What are the winter months?


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Thanks Mike. I agree with your Aleutian logic. If this was '44, the risk might not be worth it. But now, as you say you can cripple or seriously retard Allied operations in '43. My guess is that you may wind up taking damage to 1-2 of your big CVs and losing 100 pilots, in exchange for sinking 2 of his.

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Fighting in the north is always tough, let alone in the winter where invasions are super tough and the wear and tear on ships escalates...I had a mini-sub blow up because of a battery failure (actually that probably didn't have anything to do with the winter, but it is nice to think that it may have).

Land based air is unreliabe, floats even worse. Frustration abounds.

You are in winter now, I believe. November to March I seem to recall. Now, quick when is Monsoon season?

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Monsoon I have written down: 15 May to 15 Oct. I need to pay more attention to dates.

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quote:

You are in winter now, I believe. November to March I seem to recall. Now, quick when is Monsoon season?


Off here slightly, winter Nov 1st thru Feb 28th. See pages 223-4 or rule 12.0
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Ships moving in Cold Zones during winter will suffer operational system damage at double the normal rate.
All base construction in Cold Zones during winter takes twice as long.
Air units will fly 25% less aircraft on strike type mission.
Ground units unloading at an enemy base or into a non-base hex with enemy unit will suffer roughly three times the losses they would normally suffer


Thus, moving some support ships (ARs, ADs) may help when they are in port. Second, the amount of air power will be reduce for both sides.



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Thanks Michael. I haven't dug out the manual since I came back from deployment. Time to do that.

11 Jan 43

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5 Fleet

The two Allied fleets still sat on the dot hex 3 hexes to the east of Adak. KB2 was in range of TBs using bombs, but none flew. I think that was for the best. When they launch, I want them carrying torpedoes. The only offensive action in this region today was a visit by 6x B-24Ds and 7x B-25Cs. Note that his SBDs didn't fly. I'm sure they're on naval attack. He may have a sniff some of my ships being in the area, but noting has spotted them.

KB1, KB3 and the slow replenishment fleet continue north.

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SE Fleet

My nightly bombing, causing a few planes to be damaged/destroyed and a bit of airfield damage.

SRA



Burma



China

I destroyed a couple of badly battered Chinese Corps just south of Kweiyang.

Other Stuff

A DMS entered conversion to an E at Tokyo.

Tomorrow may be the day up in the Aleutians. KB2 will definitely be in range, dependent on whether Ted withdraws (doubtful) and the weather being good (again doubtful). Lots of heavy overcast and blizzards in the area. We'll see.

I haven't seen Ted's carriers up there since they made that attack on Adak that gave them away on 8 Jan.

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12 Jan 43

Sub War

- I'm beginning to like putting this here. More and more subs are popping up around the map. Still nothing along the SLOC from Singapore though.

5 Fleet

Today was an exciting and boring turn, all at the same time. KB2 parked itself 4 hexes to the SE of Adak. The US bombardment TF hit Adak again, but this time showed up with 9 BB, 3 CLAA and an unknown number of DDs. They did minor airfield damage (there wasn't much left to damage ) and killed a few troops. Overall, it probably wasn't worth the effort. That's when I got excited. I figured that putting some torpedoes into those lumbering hulks would make them, well, hulks. The night phase ended and I saw something else that make me pretty excited, air bombing of Adak with 27 Wildcats, 30 SBDs and 20 Avengers, all from that dot hex 3 hexes to the east of Adak. US carriers!

So now, I see 9 BBs 4 hexes to the east of KB2 and 2-4 CVs 7 hexes to the east of KB2. That made me jumpy for the rest of the turn. The turn proceeded on and on, and never went back to the Aleutians. No one flew!

After the turn, I saw that KB2 and the bombardment fleet were in extreme overcast and the US carriers were in the clear! Too bad my planes couldn't launch. Ah well, such is life.

I'm moving KB2 4 hexes due east of Adak for tomorrow. My intel says the carriers have 62 fighters, 82 bombers and 10 auxiliary aircraft. It is also showing 4 CVs in the hex, but I take those sightings with a grain of salt. There are 2-4 carriers there, because I know there were 2 at Noumea at the beginning of the month.

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SE Fleet

Half a dozen P-38Gs visited Rabaul and were overwhelmed by 3 dozen Japanese fighters. Four P-38 were lost in exchange for 1 Zero. Eight more P-38s swept Gasmata. Only 11 Japanese fighters responded, and 1 Zero was lost here too.

SRA



Burma

I had planned a sneaky little invasion, pretty much to harass Ted and turn his attention elsewhere. I had moved (by air) the 4 Parachute Regiment (Battalion strength unit) to Shwebo to invade Rangpur. That dot base is on the only railroad line to supply Chittagong and that area. Anyway, Ted must have noticed 80 transport planes at Shwebo because he swept that base with 18x P-40Ks. Neighboring CAP protected the transports at a cost of 5 Japanese fighters (about 3 WIA pilots) to 1 Allied fighter. Tomorrow, I'll fly in supply and then get the transports out of there.

China



Other Stuff

Nothing exciting to talk about. Just impatiently waiting for the next turn….

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Fighting in winter is frustrating!

Where is he rearming and refueling those thirsty BBs? Perhaps a few subs around there might net you a tanker or a BB?

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The Allies have ONLY two AEs big enough to reload BBs. I guard mine heavily.

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I suspect he's rearming/refueling the BBs at Dutch Harbor. There's no place else close enough. But, the BB TF will leave a couple days later. We ran 2 turns. I'll write them up tomorrow. Interesting events happening.

Only 2 AEs? Interesting. Gotta keep an eye out for them.

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