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Losses reported first turn, that did not occur - 12/7/2014 1:38:52 AM

DHRedge

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Looking at the starting scenario setup, and after first turn, there is a discrepancy.

It shows more losses then has actually been recorded in losses types.

The units where the planes were removed from had no combat, and were not attacked, and are in a clear town hex.

How could 100+ planes, and 90 of them transports have been destroyed when I never did any transport missions, and the base was not attacked, and it was after first turn, so no planes were damaged?

Could someone explain that, or is my game a variant being hacked (my computer gets hacked regularly as part of corporate harassment programs, Witp was unplayable because of hacks, since data values and unit naming kept changing)

In this situation, is it a hack, or is it some other situation that is not recorded on the lines for that page.
Both the soviet, and German show different totals.

7 and 64 = 71, however it then says 296 losses, is there another row for plane loses not in the data sheet?

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RE: Losses reported first turn, that did not occur - 12/8/2014 9:31:42 PM

DHRedge

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I have save games that show that error, although odd that nobody replied to such an obvious discrepancy.

It should be noted, this is with Beta 1.08, however the discrepancy should be able to be concluded so the reported losses and actual losses match, or if erraneus losses occur, that should be corrected.

Side Note on the comment about hacks, to understand why corporate systems hack people playing games, they believe in voodoo and sophisticated methods of brain washing. They believe that if they create situations in every interaction a person has, they can get the person to follow that pattern. So it is possibly a hack to try to divert attention from the reality of playing a game, to some use of symbolic correlating evidence that is not the issue. Or subtle repeating of patterns that only the subconscious will see by most people, and if repeated often enough can in some cases be an attempt to program someone.

If this situation does not occur in every variant(if it is a Security State hack), then tech support should not spend time finding and correcting the issue, the issue will be corrected by targeting the actual individuals involved, if it is because of illegal hacks.

It should also be said that if the goal is to figure out how the brain works, you could have asked at the tavern, and avoided a war you can not win. For if you are to commit crimes, illegal actions against just people, to find how just people think, all you will get is a war. And unlike your actions.

This time it is legal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfbAFgD2mLo

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RE: Losses reported first turn, that did not occur - 12/9/2014 12:01:15 PM

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Discrepancy between turn losses & aggregate losses has been reported, but (SFAIK) not commented upon.

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RE: Losses reported first turn, that did not occur - 12/9/2014 1:10:11 PM

morvael

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Individual plane losses do add up to 296. As do losses by type. The only part that does not sync are the losses by category. If I remember well Luftwaffe starts with many damaged aircraft, so these may be the ones causing those high losses and for some reason not recorded in operational losses. Maybe the counter gets reset after they are calculated. Something to check, but nothing major.

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RE: Losses reported first turn, that did not occur - 12/9/2014 1:44:19 PM

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Ok, I have nailed it. I happens only in case an airbase is displaced by enemy movement. All damaged planes on that airbase are lost, but not accounted for in the category stats (though present in losses by type and model). And there is a lot of damaged aircraft in German bases on turn 1, for example 136 Ju 52/3m are damaged out of ~300. I'll add this bug to the list, though I don't know when it will be fixed.

However I would advise against risking airbases so much as the Axis player so as to lose so many aircraft on the second turn. Every machine is precious for the small Luftwaffe...

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RE: Losses reported first turn, that did not occur - 12/9/2014 1:45:35 PM

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If I'll ever fix this, they will be recorded in "Lost on the Ground" category.

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