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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/1/2014 3:54:46 PM

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One thing I've noticed sending my carriers to Pearl:

They seem to act like a big searchlight, exposing Japanese subs the whole trip back.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/1/2014 8:58:08 PM

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28 July 1942

Neikiang falls.

quote:

Ground combat at Neikiang (75,44)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 51438 troops, 396 guns, 347 vehicles, Assault Value = 1604

Defending force 18710 troops, 103 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 501

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 2712

Allied adjusted defense: 82

Japanese assault odds: 33 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Neikiang !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), op mode(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: HQ(+)

Japanese ground losses:
597 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 102 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
6721 casualties reported
Squads: 262 destroyed, 113 disabled
Non Combat: 182 destroyed, 100 disabled
Engineers: 25 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 90 (66 destroyed, 24 disabled)
Units retreated 5

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
70th Division
63rd Division
12th Tank Regiment
3rd Tank Regiment
13th Tank Regiment
15th Division
35th Division
11th Tank Regiment
1st Army

Defending units:
24th Chinese Corps
11th Chinese Corps
60th Chinese Corps
95th Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Base Force

They're heading for Chungking. When they get there, I'll have 2400 AVs there, so I doubt he'll dislodge me easily if/when he makes his move.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/1/2014 9:48:40 PM

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What fort level in Chunking?

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/1/2014 10:11:11 PM

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6. They've been working at it all game.

I think it's maxed, as the fort level is red.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/1/2014 10:14:30 PM

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The red does not mean maxed out - it means the supply cost to build higher goes up steeply.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/1/2014 11:45:11 PM

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The read actually means you must have a minimum of (IIRC) 30,000 supply present there to build more. As BB said, supply cost is higher too, which I think is the case for every % of every level of fort or other building.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/2/2014 11:51:26 AM

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Thanks for that.

It's a bit rich for me right now. I think Chungking's around 8,000 right now.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/2/2014 12:59:38 PM

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The red does not mean maxed out - it means the supply cost to build higher goes up steeply.

Some are maxxed at 6. they read as "6/6" and are red.

Others appear red at 6 but can still be built higher. They typically read as "6/9" and are in red.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/2/2014 4:47:19 PM

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Would it be a good idea to try to increase those that can be increased above 6?

I mean, China is already supply starved... do we really need to spend more and more supply to raise some of the "last stand" based?

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/2/2014 6:16:11 PM

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IMO, the supply is better spent in providing replacement devices and bullets to the units on hand. Oh, and once in a while they should get a cup of rice too!

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/2/2014 10:14:30 PM

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Looking again, I'm at about 11,000 there. I'll use that for more important things than forts.

30 July 1942

Big Picture

His daily bombing has been at only a few spots over the last several days: The Diampur refugees at Ledo, the airfield at Chungking, and Canton. I'm guessing most of his offensive India air is in the East. If I see them stop for a day, I'll assume they're shifting their attention westward again.

I've had good search coverage from Normanton. Pretty much no shipping in and out of Darwin for quite a while now.

All my carriers except Wasp are on the blocks for upgrades. About 10 days for the Yorktowns and 40 for the Lexingtons. The latter are getting their big 5"/38 upgrade, which is why they're taking so long. I'll make due with four for now.

My Chinese fleeing Neikiang for Chungking got attacked by an armor-heavy group.

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Ground combat at 75,45 (near Chungking)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1530 troops, 0 guns, 284 vehicles, Assault Value = 971

Defending force 11788 troops, 54 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 191

Japanese adjusted assault: 235

Allied adjusted defense: 68

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: fatigue(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 22 (3 destroyed, 19 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
3652 casualties reported
Squads: 101 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 141 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 27 (9 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Units retreated 5

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
13th Tank Regiment
35th Division
3rd Tank Regiment
12th Tank Regiment
15th Division
11th Tank Regiment
1st Army

Defending units:
60th Chinese Corps
24th Chinese Corps
11th Chinese Corps
95th Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Base Force

Heavy on my side, but a fair amount of tanks are down.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/3/2014 9:10:57 PM

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01 August 1942

Another month in

Things of interest this turn.

Intel Chimp had this to say:

quote:

1942-07-31 Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Kwajalein Island

Something's going on there. I'm still keen on kicking off my invasion in the next week or so, once my ships are out of the yards.

Cairns is up to level 5, and I put two B-26 squadrons there. I took a shot at Port Moresby. It looks like Nicks are the official anti-bomber plane of the IJA right now.

quote:

Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 7

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 7000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
32nd Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 2

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 3 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 7000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
32nd Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 7000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes

I've moved up three more Marauder squadrons form Brisbane there, plus some Beaufighters. A group's worth of fighters moved to Townsville to beef them back up. I have one squadron of P-40s at Cairns, also.

Cooktown's starting to look rather nice for a base, with the range benefit. I know supplies there will be a bear, though. I'll mull it a bit. Back in UV, Cooktown was a no-brainer, but the road network here isn't as forgiving.

Speaking of bombers, all my USAAF squadrons went to the higher plane counts, so I was busy adding pilots to them all. My SOP is to have two extra pilots over plane capacity.

My remnants at Imphal got driven out to the south, after a few attempts.

quote:

Ground combat at Imphal (60,40)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4219 troops, 22 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 140

Defending force 4082 troops, 19 guns, 27 vehicles, Assault Value = 65

Japanese adjusted assault: 122

Allied adjusted defense: 37

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Imphal !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
2458 casualties reported
Squads: 21 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 107 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 14 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 26 (26 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1
Units destroyed 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
Imperial Guards/C Division

Defending units:
1st Burma Division
106th RAF Base Force
6/9th Jat Battalion

Same with the guys from Paoshan.

quote:

Ground combat at 67,44 (near Paoshan)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 11081 troops, 137 guns, 48 vehicles, Assault Value = 308

Defending force 6138 troops, 32 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 26

Japanese adjusted assault: 109

Allied adjusted defense: 106

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
154 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Allied ground losses:
518 casualties reported
Squads: 31 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Assaulting units:
5th Guards/A Division
5th Guards/C Division
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
21st Army

Defending units:
54th Chinese Corps
NCAC

Finally, CF took another swing at Canton, and missed.

quote:

Ground combat at Canton (77,59)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 50150 troops, 417 guns, 85 vehicles, Assault Value = 1472

Defending force 30288 troops, 282 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 674

Japanese adjusted assault: 673

Allied adjusted defense: 933

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3017 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 171 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 40 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 25 (1 destroyed, 24 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (2 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
943 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 108 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Assaulting units:
Hong Kong Def Force
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
10th Garrison Unit
56th Division
66th Infantry Regiment
33rd Division
20th RGC Division
21st Mortar Battalion
1st JAAF AF Coy
4th Air Division
Canton Special Base Force
32nd JNAF AF Unit
47th JAAF AF Bn
2nd JAAF AF Coy

Defending units:
2nd Prov Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
14th Chinese Corps
62nd Chinese Corps
6th Chinese Corps
16th Group Army
57th AT Gun Regiment

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/3/2014 10:23:43 PM

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1942-07-31 Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Kwajalein Island

Something's going on there. I'm still keen on kicking off my invasion in the next week or so, once my ships are out of the yards.

Do you know where the KB is lurking now?

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/3/2014 10:31:12 PM

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No. I'm assuming Truk.

One advantage I'd have is having my carriers buried amongst 4 or 5 amphibious TFs, probably diluting any strikes he makes.

Treespider got burned badly in that situation in our game a while ago, losing all of KB in the process. He hit me in the middle of landing troops at Luganville. I lost one carrier from his air.

I know... nothing's for sure.

I plan on having the follow-on base forces, engineers, and aircraft immediately behind the invasion, so I hope to have defenses up fairly quickly.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/3/2014 11:34:31 PM

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No. I'm assuming Truk.

One advantage I'd have is having my carriers buried amongst 4 or 5 amphibious TFs, probably diluting any strikes he makes.

Treespider got burned badly in that situation in our game a while ago, losing all of KB in the process. He hit me in the middle of landing troops at Luganville. I lost one carrier from his air.

I know... nothing's for sure.

I plan on having the follow-on base forces, engineers, and aircraft immediately behind the invasion, so I hope to have defenses up fairly quickly.

Well since you expect them to be in Truk it sounds like you are expecting or even hoping for a large CV battle. Having KB strikes diluted against amphibious TFs will undoubtedly work to the advantage of your CVs but the Japanese will have plenty other advantages being on the defensive. By forcing such a battle you are not going to be able to capitalize on other typical Allied advantages like LBA or CVEs as you won't have LBA in range and your CVEs haven't started coming in yet. And of course the KB you are facing is full strength (including post Dec 7th reinforcements) with very good pilots. On paper it really does not look like a favorable engagement for the Allies but I guess you don't really have anything else going for you. Win the battle and you can completely shift the tide of war. Lose the battle and the Japanese probably get the Autovictory but that has a decent shot of happening anyway. I guess you might as well go for it and if it fails just sue for peace or something.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/4/2014 11:34:33 AM

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He'll get autovictory at this point, as he has a 4.5-1 advantage right now.

I have to start with something. I can't wait until mid-1943. Unfortunately, grabbing island bases won't make that up. I need a real offensive in India.

A USMC division and two USA divisions are about three weeks from Cape Town. I'll probably be able to buy out one of the Army units. The Marines are ready to go.

My ship losses weren't out of whack, as he never hit Pearl. I'm probably better than I normally am in China, holding enough of the large bases. India (and Ceylon) look like a good autovictory route. I haven't looked, but Calcutta must roll in plenty by itself.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/4/2014 6:43:26 PM

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Yikes, Calcutta's worth over 1,000 pts to the Japanese. That's like wiping out KB every day.

No wonder my VP ratio is falling faster than a fat guy from a balcony.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/4/2014 8:17:46 PM

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Yikes, Calcutta's worth over 1,000 pts to the Japanese. That's like wiping out KB every day.

No wonder my VP ratio is falling faster than a fat guy from a balcony.

Well they only get those 1000 VPs once so I'm not sure what you mean by wiping out the KB every day.

The army loss VPs are probably the biggest source of VP losses, however. The final attack on Benares destroyed a total of 6833 squads and devices. At a cost of 3 squads/devices per VP that is nearly 2300 VPs. And unlike the base control VPs you cannot reverse these losses.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/4/2014 8:56:09 PM

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That's not so bad. I was thinking it was a constantly accruing amount. I never paid much attention to victory point, since to me, that isn't the point of a long game.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/4/2014 10:41:25 PM

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03 August 1943

I ran a sweep against Port Moresby from Cairns with Beaufighters. Not so good, as I lost three for no gain. I think experience played a big part, as they weren't very good. Numbers are back up. The Beaufighter and Oz P-40 pools are rather high right now, since there are only a handful of Australian fighter squadrons on the continent. I should look over some of the Wirraway squadrons to see if they can convert.

I've been asleep watching Pearl, as I've ran that base completely out of fuel. Never had that happen before. Fuel usually seems infinite there. I have one tanker group filling up in the states. I have to wait until my big Suva bound cargo fleet is out before I can get the rest of the tankers out. No big deal. Pearl doesn't see a whole lot of ship traffic, so I can be a bit leisurely about it.

My Suva cargo group has Coast Guard ships with Haida and Taney. Charleston and an 8,000 mile destroyer are also going along. I noticed that Taney is getting Hedgehogs with her September '42 refit. She's probably the first ship to get them.

Troops showed up at Chungking and I attacked:

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Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 81814 troops, 185 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2387

Defending force 42119 troops, 340 guns, 313 vehicles, Assault Value = 1370

Allied adjusted assault: 1560

Japanese adjusted defense: 2397

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1325 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 207 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 17 (1 destroyed, 16 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
8959 casualties reported
Squads: 143 destroyed, 773 disabled
Non Combat: 102 destroyed, 189 disabled
Engineers: 19 destroyed, 58 disabled
Guns lost 16 (4 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
9th Separate Brigade
19th Chinese Corps
5th New Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Corps
95th Chinese Corps
7th Construction Regiment
58th Chinese Corps
11th Chinese Corps
29th Chinese Corps
3rd Construction Regiment
23rd Chinese Corps
60th Chinese Corps
71st Chinese Corps
303rd Brigade
8th Construction Regiment
100th Chinese Corps
83rd Chinese Corps
10th Construction Regiment
12th Construction Regiment
37th Group Army
23rd Group Army
16th Construction Regiment
14th Group Army
14th Chinese Base Force
7th Group Army
7th Artillery Regiment
China Command
1st War Area
56th AT Gun Regiment
1st Artillery Regiment
Lusu War Area
CAF HQ
1st Chinese Base Force
15th Group Army
3rd Chinese Base Force
25th Group Army
10th Group Army
13th Group Army
49th AA Regiment
Central Reserve
19th Chinese Base Force
4th Chinese Base Force
Red Chinese Army
24th Chinese Corps
21st Chinese Base Force

Defending units:
15th Division
3rd Tank Regiment
35th Division
13th Tank Regiment
12th Tank Regiment
14th Division

Not a good move, as it cost me 800 AVs. I thought it may have been a weak vanguard, but guessed wrong. Should have bombarded to gauge the situation. A black eye should learn me...

I sent CF a note about the autovictory probability. He intended to keep the game going which is good. I've had so many aborted games where I had to endure 1942 and never played with all the fun toys that come the next year. The game is racing along for me right now. We fit in two a day on weekdays and 3 or 4 on the weekends. Even that's at a casual pace, as we both have lives. Anyway, I won't be doing anything rash in the meantime to desperately stave off defeat. I'll probably run a few Halsey-style raids on his outlying bases to see how well he's guarding the East. Any major event, I'll wait the month and a half for the Lexingtons to finish their upgrade. Their AA should top an Atlanta by the time they're done.

By that time, I can hopefully have 2+ American divisions in India, one of which being Marines. I've been sending fulled up B-25 units over, too. I'll be rolling in bombers over there by that point. My first Spitfire squadron arrived in Melbourne. As usual, they're ahead of the production pool, so I figure it's at least a month and a half before they're up to strength. The Spit is not a good Pacific War plane, with it's crap range. I can't even ferry it to Moresby, for Odin's sake.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/5/2014 1:44:22 PM

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I thought on autovictory. WWII is full of examples wwhere countries have changed sides once the tide of war went against them, italy, Romania, Finland, Bulgaria and romania come to mind and also T. In this game Thailand withdrawls troops by early August, 1944. I believe there should also be this possibility with some other countries like India and Burma which had large independance movements. There should be a scale that if there are 10,000 possible victory points between india cities and units that once 5,000 has been hit, that the computer rolls each turn after for a possibility of it changing sides. It would go up by +10 for each additional 1,000 points lost. This should also be used for DEI. DEI surrendered long before every individual hex was occupied. If a nation surrenders then all hexes automatically goes to the victor unless a former allie still has units, ground, air or naval in that hex. Once that hex has been abandoned by that former allie it would automatically convert to the victor's side. This would be a more historical game and add some realism about politically motivated choices in an effort to support and keep allies in the game for fear they might surrender. Not sure if the game model can support the variables here but it would make for an interesting game.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/5/2014 4:43:02 PM

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I like your ideas Bif 1961. The game has no mechanism to flip entire countries but it does do that for unoccupied bases that have enemy presence close by.

I suppose it is possible to program the surrender of countries but, as I understand it, Matrix has stopped further development of the game and all new changes appear to be by the game's fans who have the skills to make them happen, with input from a couple of Matrix support staff.

I think your idea is along the lines of what the game's designers were trying to achieve when they set up the VP system - to keep the Allied player from totally retreating in 1942 from Japanese advances while waiting for force buildup in 1943. Unfortunately there are some game balance issues wherein the Japanese player can achieve far more in the first seven months of play than they did historically, and it would guarantee auto-victory if entire countries flipped. In your example of India, several AARs have shown the IJA taking almost all of India but the commitment there leaves the Allies to hit them in other areas.

As currently configured, if the Japanese player goes for auto-victory he must overextend the defensible perimeter and expose his LOC to counterattack. This makes for an interesting game, which is the goal, rather than total historic realism.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/5/2014 4:59:57 PM

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I ran a sweep against Port Moresby from Cairns with Beaufighters. Not so good, as I lost three for no gain. I think experience played a big part, as they weren't very good. Numbers are back up. The Beaufighter and Oz P-40 pools are rather high right now, since there are only a handful of Australian fighter squadrons on the continent. I should look over some of the Wirraway squadrons to see if they can convert.

The Beaufighter should not be used for sweeping. They are pretty much outmatched by any Japanese fighter. They are much more useful as bomber escort where they will prevent intercepting Japanese fighters from concentrating exclusively on your bombers. The P-38 is a far more effective sweeping fighter and is probably the only other fighter that can reach Port Moresby from OZ for quite some time.

As for the P-40 I think it's actually a pretty decent plane when you can get it into combat but at this point of the war that is difficult due to range constraints and lack of aggressive Japanese LBA attacks. But you get a lot of them and CAP missions generate good pilot experience even without combat.

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ORIGINAL: Mundy
I've been asleep watching Pearl, as I've ran that base completely out of fuel. Never had that happen before. Fuel usually seems infinite there. I have one tanker group filling up in the states. I have to wait until my big Suva bound cargo fleet is out before I can get the rest of the tankers out. No big deal. Pearl doesn't see a whole lot of ship traffic, so I can be a bit leisurely about it.

As you say its not going to be decisive but the fact this happened means that you are completely missing one of the important goals of the Allies in 1942 which is simply building up all that supply and fuel in forward bases.

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ORIGINAL: Mundy
Not a good move, as it cost me 800 AVs. I thought it may have been a weak vanguard, but guessed wrong. Should have bombarded to gauge the situation. A black eye should learn me...

Terrain, terrain, terrain. The Chinese are woefully bad in offensive attacks in terrain.

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ORIGINAL: Mundy
I sent CF a note about the autovictory probability. He intended to keep the game going which is good. I've had so many aborted games where I had to endure 1942 and never played with all the fun toys that come the next year. The game is racing along for me right now. We fit in two a day on weekdays and 3 or 4 on the weekends. Even that's at a casual pace, as we both have lives. Anyway, I won't be doing anything rash in the meantime to desperately stave off defeat. I'll probably run a few Halsey-style raids on his outlying bases to see how well he's guarding the East. Any major event, I'll wait the month and a half for the Lexingtons to finish their upgrade. Their AA should top an Atlanta by the time they're done.

If you do raid be sure to get in and get out as quickly as possible. Don't feel guilty about wasting fuel and gathering ship damage by moving at full speed even if you don't think it is absolutely necessary. And of course always keep a replenishment fleet nearby in case fuel does get low. A surprise carrier raid is only a surprise for about one turn. Just recently I had a game where the USN carriers surprised the IJN in the Coral Sea by sinking a transport fleet only to end an in a complete Allied disaster (3 USN CVs sunk nary a IJN ship damaged) when the USN stayed an extra day for an ill-advised port strike on Port Moresby. If you want to have those fun toys in 1943 don't waste the valuable toys in 1942.

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sangeli
The Beaufighter should not be used for sweeping. They are pretty much outmatched by any Japanese fighter. They are much more useful as bomber escort where they will prevent intercepting Japanese fighters from concentrating exclusively on your bombers. The P-38 is a far more effective sweeping fighter and is probably the only other fighter that can reach Port Moresby from OZ for quite some time

I know better to use them as a "real" fighter. Hitting ships at 100 feet is their real role. I thought they'd have good odds vs Nick, being a similar airplane. Against them, I can totally put this on the pilot experience, which averaged just under 50.

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ORIGINAL: Sangeli
As you say its not going to be decisive but the fact this happened means that you are completely missing one of the important goals of the Allies in 1942 which is simply building up all that supply and fuel in forward bases.

I don't know if I'd rate Pearl as "forward". My other bases are pretty well stocked. Suva is over 200k, with more on the way and 300k+ for fuel. Pago Pago, I believe, is a little over 50k in supply, but has a minimalist occupying force right now. New Zealand is improving. I've even gotten rid of most of the red exclamation points in India right now. However, I've emptied Abadan of supply right now, and will have to let them recharge for a month, at least. Another convoy from Cape Town, I guess. Run fuel in the meantime. I'm casually keeping the Alaska Theatre up right now. More attention has been going to those little dinky isolated bases. They seem to eat up supply quickly and are a pain to ship to.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sangeli
Terrain, terrain, terrain. The Chinese are woefully bad in offensive attacks in terrain.

I know... It's hard to suppress the knee-jerk reactions. At least I can be sure it won't be easy for him, either.

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ORIGINAL: Sangeli
If you do raid be sure to get in and get out as quickly as possible. Don't feel guilty about wasting fuel and gathering ship damage by moving at full speed even if you don't think it is absolutely necessary. And of course always keep a replenishment fleet nearby in case fuel does get low. A surprise carrier raid is only a surprise for about one turn. Just recently I had a game where the USN carriers surprised the IJN in the Coral Sea by sinking a transport fleet only to end an in a complete Allied disaster (3 USN CVs sunk nary a IJN ship damaged) when the USN stayed an extra day for an ill-advised port strike on Port Moresby. If you want to have those fun toys in 1943 don't waste the valuable toys in 1942.

Don't worry, I'll never put more than a day into any strike. Two factors to think of: If the target has an effective search radius, it can give KB a couple days head start toward my ships. It's still some distance to cover and how willing would Cannonfodder be to firewall the throttles to get there? I think I have a squadron of F4F-7s in San Fran. It might pay to get them on a carrier and run some long range recon missions on my probable targets. The dash-7 was pretty much a flying fuel tank. I've suspended sending Seabees to Pearl, as I've hit the stacking limit there (routing them to India, by the way), so no transport missions have sailed recently.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/5/2014 7:13:48 PM

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Correction to last post: I have F4F-3Ps, not -7s. Looking into it, the effective range of the latter isn't too effective, though the ferry range is.

04 August 1942

Hunches

The day starts off with a bang.

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Sub attack near Cox's Bazar at 53,42

Japanese Ships
TK Daiei Maru, Torpedo hits 1
DD Amagiri

Allied Ships
SS Grunion

SS Grunion launches 2 torpedoes at TK Daiei Maru
Grunion diving deep ....
DD Amagiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Amagiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Amagiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Amagiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Amagiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Looks like an empty tanker.

My hunch sorta came true. Bombing at Ledo stopped the previous turn, and as I guessed, he went west.

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Morning Air attack on Jubbulpore , at 46,27

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 42
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 27

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 7
Hurricane I Trop x 4
Hurricane IIc Trop x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 7 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.79 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead
No.14 Sqn RNZAF with Buffalo I (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead
No.607 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Raid is overhead
51st FG/16th FS with P-40E Warhawk (13 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(13 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Jubbulpore , at 46,27

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 62

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 3
Hurricane I Trop x 2
Hurricane IIc Trop x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 25

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
32 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.79 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
No.14 Sqn RNZAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 113 minutes
No.607 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 105 minutes
51st FG/16th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 55 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Jubbulpore , at 46,27

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 27

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 1
Hurricane I Trop x 1
Hurricane IIc Trop x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
51st FG/16th FS with P-40E Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 83 minutes
No.79 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
No.14 Sqn RNZAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
No.607 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Raid is overhead

All my fighters were from Bhopal, so their CAP just bled over. CF can hit the "airbase" here all he wants, for all I care. I upped the count at Bhopal with a half squadron of USAAF P-40s and two squadrons of RAF Hurricanes, all with external tanks on. I'm a little overstocked, support-wise, but I'm sending a base force from Hyderabad there to help. I'm guessing I'll be seeing Tojos soon, so I hope the extra numbers will help.

Jubbulpore itself is heavy with fighting LCUs to block an advance on that route. My new British division is there. When the US units arrive, I'll probably put them on the southern coastal road to threaten Calcutta.

Adak seems to have fighters present now -- about 12. No more free bombings, I guess.

I also noticed that the VFs on the carriers have upped to 36. That's a serious big deal with regard to future ops. Pretty much all the CVs will be slightly over capacity, so I can't just add the recon Wildcats on top of what's there. I'll have to think if I want to do a swap for a raid or not.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/6/2014 1:56:03 PM

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06 August 1942

The inevitable retaliation...

Happily, no bombing at all this turn. I did have to endure sweeps at Jubbulpore, though. I tend to stack my CAP at 10k, 15k and 20k, but I think I'll have to raise it 5,000 feet each. I'm resting everyone this turn.

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Morning Air attack on Jubbulpore , at 46,27

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 41

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 5
Hurricane I Trop x 4
Hurricane IIb Trop x 6
Hurricane IIc Trop x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 3 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed

CAP engaged:
No.34 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
No.79 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
51st FG/16th FS with P-40E Warhawk (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(12 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
23rd FG/76th FS with P-40E Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
No.258 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
No.14 Sqn RNZAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
No.607 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Jubbulpore , at 46,27

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 24

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 4
Hurricane I Trop x 2
Hurricane IIb Trop x 4
Hurricane IIc Trop x 5
P-40E Warhawk x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
Hurricane I Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.258 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
No.607 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 126 minutes
No.34 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
No.79 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 61 minutes
51st FG/16th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 6150 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 92 minutes
No.14 Sqn RNZAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
23rd FG/76th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 3000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Jubbulpore , at 46,27

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet

My Yorktowns will be out of the yard tomorrow.

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08 August 1942

Another sub snooping off California.

quote:

ASW attack near San Francisco at 217,71

Japanese Ships
SS I-26, hits 2

Allied Ships
SC-522
SC-521

SS I-26 is located by SC-522
I-26 diving deep ....
SC-522 attacking submerged sub ....
SC-521 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC-522 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC-521 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC-521 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC-521 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC-521 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

One good hit, another lesser hit. These sub chasers are the newer ones with K-guns and Mousetraps. It'll be getting a little less friendly for him.

The air war grinds on. Losses about even this turn. The extra altitude settings helped, I think. One P-40 unit went to Bombay to convert to Lightnings. They're almost have strength now.

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Morning Air attack on Jubbulpore , at 46,27

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 41

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 10
Hurricane I Trop x 7
Hurricane IIb Trop x 12
Hurricane IIc Trop x 6
Mohawk IV x 11
P-40E Warhawk x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
Mohawk IV: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 15000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.17 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
No.30 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
No.34 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Raid is overhead
No.67 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
No.155 Sqn RAF with Mohawk IV (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(11 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 11 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
No.14 Sqn RNZAF with Buffalo I (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead
23rd FG/76th FS with P-40E Warhawk (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
No.607 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Jubbulpore , at 46,27

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 27

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 4
Hurricane I Trop x 4
Hurricane IIb Trop x 15
Hurricane IIc Trop x 9
Mohawk IV x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.258 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
No.67 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 26040.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 63 minutes
No.34 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
No.17 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 21990 and 23030.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
No.155 Sqn RAF with Mohawk IV (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and 24040.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
No.14 Sqn RNZAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 22040.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 79 minutes
23rd FG/76th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
No.607 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
No.30 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Jubbulpore , at 46,27

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 2
Hurricane IIb Trop x 9
Hurricane IIc Trop x 3
Mohawk IV x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

CAP engaged:
No.34 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 25000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
No.67 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 28000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
No.14 Sqn RNZAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 27440.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
No.17 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 109 minutes
No.155 Sqn RAF with Mohawk IV (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
No.607 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 73 minutes

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/6/2014 11:16:53 PM

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09 August 1942

Quiet over India.

CF took another shot at Canton.

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Ground combat at Canton (77,59)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 57225 troops, 480 guns, 82 vehicles, Assault Value = 1668

Defending force 28628 troops, 268 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 522

Japanese adjusted assault: 1142

Allied adjusted defense: 893

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2405 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 185 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 16 (1 destroyed, 15 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
520 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 88 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 21 (6 destroyed, 15 disabled)

Assaulting units:
33rd Division
116th Division
56th Division
10th Garrison Unit
Hong Kong Def Force
1st Ind.Inf.Group
20th RGC Division
47th JAAF AF Bn
Canton Special Base Force
1st JAAF AF Coy
21st Mortar Battalion
32nd JNAF AF Unit
4th Air Division
2nd JAAF AF Coy

Defending units:
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
62nd Chinese Corps
14th Chinese Corps
2nd Prov Chinese Corps
6th Chinese Corps
16th Group Army
57th AT Gun Regiment

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/8/2014 7:32:39 PM

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11 August 1942

Another quiet day, apart form the daily bombings of Chungking and Canton -- not to much effect on either this time.

Ran into a sub off the west coast.

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ASW attack near San Francisco at 214,73

Japanese Ships
SS I-1, hits 3, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Perkins

SS I-1 is sighted by escort
I-1 diving deep ....
DD Perkins fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Perkins attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-1 eludes ASW attack from DD Perkins
DD Perkins fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Perkins attacking submerged sub ....
DD Perkins loses contact with SS I-1
DD Perkins is out of ASW ammo
DD Perkins fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Two of those hits were good "hard" hits, with the third being the "soft" hit. Her cruise is over, I think. I don't know what the usual forum threshold is for keeping damaged subs online. I tend to pull them immediately anytime sys > 4

The USA 40th and 41st Divisions are still 15 days out from Cape Town. I should be able to easily flip one over with lots to spare. Two weeks later a lot of flak is due to arrive.

No sweeps or raids over India this day. My planes were stood down anyway. I'm waiting for my one squadron to fill up on Lightnings.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 12/8/2014 10:04:18 PM

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12 August 1942

My Marshalls raid sorta got there...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Kwajalein Island at 132,115

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 7
SBD-3 Dauntless x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Yamabato Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Chitose Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (14 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
14 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Raid is overhead
4 planes vectored on to bombers
13th Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead

Everyone was set first to Antiship, and as a secondary, hitting the various bases there. There were transports at Kwajalein itself, so the admiral in charge send in a little half-assed raid against them. One squadron of Zekes there, anyway. They're bailing back to Pearl. If CF were to firewall the throttles, he could just about get there in a day, so no thanks. A full blown cohesive strike probably would have ran over the CAP.

Next time I show, I'll have lots of amphibious TFs, along with ASW and minsweepers everywhere, which should dilute things.

Quiet everywhere else. One squadron of B-17s and one of B-18 show up at Cape Town. They haven't flipped to 12 plane squadrons yet. They're boxed up on the fastest xAPs I have and enroute for India.

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