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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/12/2015 5:07:52 PM   
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I read this for the first time, so yup you are from the same high school as me

2x4 High

As Germany job #1 is stopping a landing near Rome.

So far I have been able to avoid whats going on in this thread even vs carlkey.



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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/12/2015 6:38:51 PM   
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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/12/2015 6:49:27 PM   
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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/12/2015 6:55:24 PM   
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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/12/2015 6:55:46 PM   
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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/12/2015 6:57:47 PM   
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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/12/2015 7:00:50 PM   
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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/12/2015 7:12:28 PM   
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Good attempt at cutting him off - perhaps a 'Ridge too Far'

ROFL

Good one !!

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/12/2015 7:29:17 PM   
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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/12/2015 9:22:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Baelfiin

Yeah I am an idiot






one more turn and you can forget the U-boats. worry about V-rockets


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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/13/2015 1:05:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Weather clears up a little, my airforce is back in action.

Very hairy situation at the Teramo Gap

My supply line is stretched to the breaking point

Germans being sneaky on the western coast, I think this withdrawal there is an attempt to bait me into charging north.

Maybe will link up 8th and 1st Canadian armies this turn.

Bomb campaign vs Vweps continues, hope to start '44 with max possible destruction




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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/13/2015 3:02:39 PM   
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VP's should start piling up.

You might want to consider stopping offensive operations to the north once you get to the eastern coast. Mop up during the bad weather and stock pile some VP's before good weather returns in summer.

Great operations so far.

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/14/2015 8:51:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		At the end of turn 26 I finally have a strong cutoff of the germans to the south.

Still two ports that they can escape from however.

LW making things rough on me, I need to do something about all of these stukas and fw190's based so close to the front.




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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/14/2015 9:15:57 PM   
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Even though it looks like I have a lot of Germans headed to the POW camps Victory points are still very tight.

Major focus on V weps over last 3 turns in the terrible weather net me a 0 vp hit for Vweps; I'll take it.




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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/14/2015 10:03:30 PM   
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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/14/2015 10:12:33 PM   
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See Baelfiin? All you had to do was trust your commanders. I'm glad it didn't turn into a "Ridge too Far"! lol I'm I still relieved of command?

I am still blaming you for getting a tank brigade surrounded and forcing me to fly my whole airforce in bad weather to save him 8)

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/14/2015 10:16:55 PM   
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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/14/2015 10:19:15 PM   
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I am pretty sure the ground war is over until may/june 44

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/14/2015 10:20:32 PM   
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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/14/2015 11:10:52 PM   
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If I promise not to slap another Private can I get a Corps back?

I will put you in charge of garrisoning Corsica and Sardinia against German paradrops. Might even give you two corps ...

In other news, Germans Launch Counterattack in Northern Italy, Southern Italian Army is Abandoned




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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/14/2015 11:53:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		With the Italian Campaign winding down until the summer offensive I turn my thoughts to Liberating France.

Southern France: The Decision. . .

Need to limit to 4 naval TF's, maybe 5 at most. Other than that, thoughts?




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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/15/2015 12:05:05 AM   
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I would say land he is very weak and disorganized now.

His replacements will be used up filling up surrendered units coming back which means his front line units will be weak and getting weaker.

The snowball effect.

Once you have the upper hand keep hammering.

Personally if I was you I invade near Brest asap.

Drop paras on the ridge east of port land to north of ridge and near Brest.

Hes down so kick him and finish him off.

Southern France I can defend with old lady's and children = horrible terrain, invade Breast

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/15/2015 12:24:43 AM   
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Pelton likes the Brest area. I am not sold on it though.




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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/15/2015 1:00:34 AM   
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Why should I land here? And why should I not?




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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/15/2015 1:16:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		"J" and "K" are the only way, and yes, that rhymes. Here's my master plan, brought to you by courier from Corsica. Oh, I almost forgot. No para drops in Corsica or Sardinia to report, so far. I would be negligent if I didn't mention that you should recon, for several weeks before you decide where to actually land. Fly them in very poor weather if you have to, they signed up for it.




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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/15/2015 1:24:43 AM   
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He can be ground down now I believe, aka Snow ball hes in deep trouble in Italy.


Personally I land B at B. Land C at D Land D 1 hex east of E

E land just to SE of Guingamp cutting that rail line.

Drop 2 para's on the rail line west of Loudear cutting that line Make sure its cut!!! land more if u need or all.

A Land west of Lorient cutting the rail line.

You have 2 paras left land 1 2 hexes inland from the Lorient landing and the fouth at your para drop 2.

Ok the hole area is shut down, one thing learnt in WitE rails area key you do not need bombers to cut rails and you have to have a set to win as WA's from what I am seeing.

The landing that cut the rails can be pulled they are just there to cut rails with ZoC, but if he reaction is slow you got the hole dam area and the frontage is to big for him to contain.




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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/15/2015 1:27:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		You have started a manpower crunch of which he can never recover IF you surround troops and get them to surrender 1 or 2 regiments or divisions at a time.

He is off balance do not let him recover keep pounding. He really screwed up in Italy you have and opening finish him off.





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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/15/2015 1:29:20 AM   
Peltonx


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Status: offline 		I read allot of AAR's dealing with WitW and I have yet to see people push the system from the WA side.

You have allot of tools use them, be creative with what you have think out side the box.



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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/15/2015 1:51:45 AM   
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"J" and "K" are the only way, and yes, that rhymes. Here's my master plan, brought to you by courier from Corsica. Oh, I almost forgot. No para drops in Corsica or Sardinia to report, so far. I would be negligent if I didn't mention that you should recon, for several weeks before you decide where to actually land. Fly them in very poor weather if you have to, they signed up for it.





Huge problem bro with that, chance are he has a few 3-4 LARGE elite panzer divisions close to that.

If that was me on the German side you be in the North Sea swimming for England the 2nd turn.

A small landing like that will not survive. Its clear terrain you get creamed before you get fort lvls up or supplies build up on beaches. Landing are very weak the first 2 turn vs 20-30 CV GD/PD's.






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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 1/15/2015 1:54:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Once your Tank divisions are on Brittary he is toast, because you have depleted most of his best units in Italy or they are cut off and will keep depleting his replacements.

Once you grind down his units in Italy and near Brest some you can easly breakout and it be a smoke show after that unless I am missing something.

You got 1000"s of transports so u never run out of supplies after a breakout.

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