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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/13/2015 1:08:43 PM   
thomasharvey


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Status: offline 		I had to flee even damaged Japanese carriers and surface units. I was greatly relieved they withdrew. The allies can not challenge Japanese naval power. Even with damaged ships, the Japanese still have surface power and their Bettys which can blast away any of my ships. I lost 4 destroyers in a single blast deep in my rear in an earlier turn because of them.

For the next few months it is up to my ground troops and a few aircraft to try and slow down the Japanese advances.

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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/13/2015 4:45:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Okie dokie........new turn, new moves from Tom. I dropped some paratroops in Malaya for all the good they will do. I'm hoping
I can cut off the supply to some of those Allied units and make the take-down easier. I may have to split them up and spread
them out behind the Allied lines.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/13/2015 4:56:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm moving south across the Stanley Owens mountains just to the north of Port Moresby. Also, I've captured one of the Allied
airfields adjacent to PM and I'm planning on some light bombing and maybe some naval bombardment to take PM down.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/13/2015 9:43:48 PM   
larryfulkerson


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Status: offline 		I've discovered that the new naval rules allow a new way for ships to destroy aircraft units. I had a ship adjacent to an
Allied airfield that had planes on it that evidently intercepted the ship when I moved it one hex south still adjacent to
the airfield and when the ship had a chance to bombard in the intercept process, it destroyed the two aircraft units.

I'm going to have to remember this technique.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/14/2015 6:32:23 AM   
larryfulkerson


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Status: offline 		New moves from Tom, new turn. Here's how Malaya looks now. I've cut off the northern Allied group now to get some
paratroopers on the road to Singapore on the southern group. To cut their supply off. I've got to rake together enough
ships to bombard Singapore when I finally get some land units in position to assault finally.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/14/2015 10:07:11 AM   
larryfulkerson


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Status: offline 		I landed at Padang on Sumatra and captured the place. I divided the land unit into parts and captured a nearby airfield
and hope to capture another next turn. I'm going to need some more boots on the ground to clear the terrain of any
enemy units however.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/14/2015 10:43:46 AM   
larryfulkerson


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Status: offline 		Here's Malaya after all the combat results are done.
Slow progress is being made.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/15/2015 12:35:24 AM   
larryfulkerson


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Status: offline 		This is south China now. We're still battling back and forth trading blows and pushing and shoving. Still no
operational advantage for the Japs yet. Maybe I need more people yet.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/15/2015 12:56:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		That old airfield bombardment trick worked again. Just ignore all the intercepts and drive adjacent to the airfield and when it
intercepts one more time the ship bombards and the aircraft go bye bye. I'm wondering why the Wildcats survived?




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/15/2015 2:44:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is northern China now. I've just about reached the point where I can just contain all the Chinese troops. I don't have enough
people on the ground to overpower them but I'm protecting the railroad and that's something.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/15/2015 2:59:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is what Malaya and Sumatra look like now. I'm still mixing mopping-up with assaulting attacks. The northern end of
Sumatra is my next short term goal.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/15/2015 3:36:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		I found a bunch of Allied ships on the West side of India. This is another reason I need to advance into Burma and India, my Nells
can almost reach them as it is. Just a bit more range or just a bit closer to the ships and I can start bombarding.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/15/2015 3:50:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I found a Betty / Nell unit that could be moved into a better position and then had the range to do an airstrike on those Allied
ships found above and got two of the CV's and some of the DD's. And the planes that were riding on the CV's. Now another
stike is in order to get the rest of the ships. But I made a three-dot attack and the readiness might not be there for another
strike.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/15/2015 5:39:31 AM   
thomasharvey


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Status: offline 		Disaster to lose the last carriers I have in the Pacific. Now I have zero. I have lost a total of 8 now.

The next carrier will not arrive for another 20 turns. I will have to set up better defenses to protect the balance of the fleets. I have plenty of BBs but they are useless in the era of the bomber. Billy Mitchell was right!


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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/15/2015 6:10:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here's some of my losses so far:




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/15/2015 12:03:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here's the face of Malaya now. I'm having trouble cutting the Allies off from their supply but the fighting continues. The supply
level seems okie dokie but my units are slow re-gaining their supply level(s). I think I may need another HQ unit present.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/16/2015 4:01:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is the T23 face of northern China. I'm trying to get a mop-up operation started but my targets keep backing out to safety.
I can't quite get a surround going. But fighting continues.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/16/2015 4:07:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here's Malaya now. I'm slowing down in my attacking because of the low supply situation. But the advance continues. I don't
expect any quick take down here.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/16/2015 4:37:46 AM   
larryfulkerson


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Status: offline 		And my first assault on Port Moresby goes pretty well. Some Allied engineers evaporated. That's a good sign.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/16/2015 4:12:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here's what northern China looks like now. Actually I guess that's Mongolia, north of northern China. Anyway, I'm finally beginning
to bring this episode to a close. I'm clearing out north of the river and I'm going to dispatch some units to do the trek to the west
and south and the rest of them I guess I'll send east and south.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/16/2015 7:53:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Allies are leaping across the river and streaming into my front lines. I don't have a reserve so this is a serious breech and
could spell trouble.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/17/2015 4:19:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Um........I'm not sure I've found a bug......it may be a feature. Let me tell you what I'm seeing and you decide. My Japanese
troops aren't recovering very much supply from one turn to the next and I'm wondering if the supply stockpile value is at fault.
I'm not seeing much supply on the ground and I'm wondering if there's some kind of supply dip that comes with Storms. I
think we're in the middle of Storms.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/17/2015 4:24:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		The south China advance is stalled. I'm not getting anywhere very fast. When I break the divisions down into Brigades the
resulting brigades don't have enough combat power to be perswasive. Best that happens is that they hold their own.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/17/2015 4:30:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		And another thing: The advance in the Pillippines has stalled. There's just isn't enough supply to boost the readiness high
enough to attack.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/17/2015 4:40:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		In a previous turn the Allies came streaming across the river from Burma and I've only just now put the stopper in
the bottle. The Allies have the firepower to break my cordon however, so I'm still holding my breath.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/17/2015 7:07:50 AM   
larryfulkerson


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Status: offline 		Here's Tom's reply via email:

The supply is intentionally set low for everyone until the allies get better later. But for the Japanese it does not get better. The Chinese have permanent low supply, almost none, due to the long Burma road and flying in supply. Further, the jungle and other terrain make it very difficult to get any supply very far. The dirt and mud roads nearly everywhere are poor for supply and the forces involved have limited supply ability when off a good supply location.

In the historical taking of Singapore, the Japanese had very poor supply and were lucky the British surrendered as they were in worse shape than the British who surrendered.

In the last scenario when I was the Japanese I brought in all the engineers into Malaya to repair the rail line down to Singapore before I started the attack. I also let the units sit for several turns as the supply improved as the rail line got closer. The Japanese take a while to repair rails but they get the job done. They are very good at setting up a crossing over a major river. The supply that way is nil due to terrain.

The rails in China can give the Japanese a big advantage in supply if you have an offensive from your rail heads. Once you go into the bush your supply is nearly gone. That is true for all sides. On islands it does not matter since the islands are very small.

The Japanese supply was very poor and got worse as time went on. The allies improve over time but not in China. The Chinese are really limited to holding, not attacking.

This is at least my approach to the subject. Time works against the Japanese. Once you go on to the defensive and just dig in, eventually all the defenders rest up and are ready on the islands. In all other areas you had better get the rails fixed and get your units close to it if they need supply. Long offensives are not something the Japanese can supply. You can get a little more supply if you do not move units by rail, sea or air in a given turn. In Malaya there is no rail for the Japanese and no supply point either. You either take Singapore quickly if the Allies do not defend it or you build the rail lines down to it. Singapore is a long way away from a supply source without repaired rail lines.

The other thing- what does sea interdiction due to supply? Anything? Or does it reduce supply some how like normal interdiction. There has been a lot of allied sea interdiction so far.

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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/17/2015 7:13:32 AM   
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The other thing- what does sea interdiction due to supply? Anything? Or does it reduce supply some how like normal interdiction. There has been a lot of allied sea interdiction so far.

That's a good question. I'm not sure myself. We'll have to conduct some tests or something.

EDIT: Here's northern China now. I've cleared it out and now I'm racing to get into the rear areas of the Chinese army.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/17/2015 10:50:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Allies have gotten some engineers onto the river to ferry across troops that are threatening to outflank all my guys and
get into my rear areas. There's not much in the way of Japanese troops to prevent it too. This looks like another front has
opened up. Tom is going to make some hay out of this.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/17/2015 11:01:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Singapore is still a problem. My guys are too tired to attack and the ships are too worn out to bombard and the Allies
are still holding out. At least the railroad is built all the way down to Singapore.




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RE: Playtest of Pacific at War 3 25 14 - 1/17/2015 11:08:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		There's another setback in northern China. Allied partisans have busted the bridge over the river so there's no easy way
to get into northern China now. I'm going to have to get some engineers up there post haste and repair that bridge. I
should have planned for that ahead of time.




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