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Is this beta patch solid? - 1/18/2015 1:52:06 PM

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I just bought the game last month and have played the Port Moresby scenario both ways against the AI. I even let the AI's play the entire campaign game to see how the AI's stacked up but was disappointed. I'm getting ready to play both sides in the campaign game and am wondering if it's safe to start with this public beta or just wait and start with the official update and wait until the public beta becomes official.

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RE: Is this beta patch solid? - 1/18/2015 3:52:01 PM

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I just bought the game last month and have played the Port Moresby scenario both ways against the AI. I even let the AI's play the entire campaign game to see how the AI's stacked up but was disappointed. I'm getting ready to play both sides in the campaign game and am wondering if it's safe to start with this public beta or just wait and start with the official update and wait until the public beta becomes official.

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The 'Beta' is as official as it gets. It is quite possible that there will not be another 'official'release. You have the release notes to refer to for what has changed in each version. You can look there to see where there have been bug fixes and where there have been improvements (sometimes both). The Beta has many fixes of bugs found in the last official. Notice that the most recent Beta was issued in August of 2014, plenty of time for reports of new bugs introduced by the Beta.

The Beta is more solid than the last 'official' release.

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RE: Is this beta patch solid? - 1/18/2015 3:54:33 PM

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BTW, this thread is for Tracker, which is an independent add-on for AE, not for AE itself!

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CTD - 1/26/2015 3:48:08 AM

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Been running Tracker without a hitch until today. Every time I try to load a turn, I get a CTD. Any thoughts on what might be the cause? Thanks.

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RE: CTD - 1/26/2015 10:20:59 AM

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Been running Tracker without a hitch until today. Every time I try to load a turn, I get a CTD. Any thoughts on what might be the cause? Thanks.

Any error messages shown?

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RE: CTD - 1/26/2015 10:35:09 AM

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Been running Tracker without a hitch until today. Every time I try to load a turn, I get a CTD. Any thoughts on what might be the cause? Thanks.

Any error messages shown?

Just that Java has stopped working.

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RE: CTD - 1/27/2015 12:01:39 AM

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Been running Tracker without a hitch until today. Every time I try to load a turn, I get a CTD. Any thoughts on what might be the cause? Thanks.

Any error messages shown?

Just that Java has stopped working.

Found the problem. The latest Java build somehow got installed, which apparently decided not to play nice with my trusty JRE6.

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RE: CTD - 1/27/2015 12:54:16 AM

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Be advised that the latest Java patch will uninstall Java 6 if you let it (it is selected to do so by default). You should be OK without Java 6 officially 'installed', as long as you have it in a folder somewhere and edit your Tracker .bat file to point to it. Best thing is to make a complete copy of the Java 6 folder just so you have it in case it gets uninstalled later.

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RE: CTD - 1/27/2015 4:53:19 PM

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Be advised that the latest Java patch will uninstall Java 6 if you let it (it is selected to do so by default). You should be OK without Java 6 officially 'installed', as long as you have it in a folder somewhere and edit your Tracker .bat file to point to it. Best thing is to make a complete copy of the Java 6 folder just so you have it in case it gets uninstalled later.

That's the way I've had it for the past year. Java 7 is the "installed" version with Java 6 in a separate folder. Both seemed to get along with each other. The latest version of Java 8 didn't uninstall Java 6, but obviously wasn't letting it work properly. Tracker could launch, but no new turns could be added.

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Tracker Question - 1/28/2015 9:02:08 PM

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witpqs,
Sorry I mistook this thread for the one for the latest public beta. Oops. Thanks for the info on the latest public beta being more solid than the last official update. I'm trying to figure out what Tracker is and if it's worth trying out. It looks like some kind of database or spreadsheet interface/maker. Do you need any other programs to operate with Tracker or will it run independently?

One weakness of the Ops Reports is that it doesn't show us construction completion of items like fortification levels. If many are constructed on one turn it can be quite a challenge to remember them all. Does Tracker track these kind of turn based reports that don't end up in the Ops Reports? That would probably be the only use I'd want for Tracker.

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RE: Tracker Question - 1/28/2015 9:19:57 PM

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witpqs,
Sorry I mistook this thread for the one for the latest public beta. Oops. Thanks for the info on the latest public beta being more solid than the last official update. I'm trying to figure out what Tracker is and if it's worth trying out. It looks like some kind of database or spreadsheet interface/maker. Do you need any other programs to operate with Tracker or will it run independently?

One weakness of the Ops Reports is that it doesn't show us construction completion of items like fortification levels. If many are constructed on one turn it can be quite a challenge to remember them all. Does Tracker track these kind of turn based reports that don't end up in the Ops Reports? That would probably be the only use I'd want for Tracker.

Omnius

Tracker is a wonderful play aid. The Alerts page in Tracker is, all by itself worth its weight in gold.

Tracker requires 32-bit Java 6. Look back in this Tracker thread for screen pics on where to find it and how to install it. The guys might have copied that to the tracker web site but I'm not sure.

Java has moved beyond version 7 and is now on version 8. They will, for security reasons, try (offer) to uninstall Java 6 if they find it on your system. You have to install it to get the files all broken out on your system, but you can then uninstall it and install the newer version. The key is to make sure - after you install Java 6 - that you make a copy of the Java 6 folder (the whole tree) and put it in a safe place. You can then point your .bat file that runs Tracker to that place so it finds the version of java that it needs. That has all been spelled out in the prior posts that you should find.

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RE: Tracker Question - 1/29/2015 2:21:21 PM

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witpqs,
Since I don't do Jivea I won't bother with Tracker. I'll just keep track of things from inside the game. You didn't answer my most important question as to whether Tracker tracks messages we see as the turn progresses, like when and where fortification levels are reached, rather than what's only in the Ops or SigInt reports.

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RE: Tracker Question - 1/29/2015 5:56:10 PM

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Only the game itself works during the turn. All of the various play aids help when you are giving orders. All but one of the play aids digest report files. Tracker is the exception, because the Tracker guys signed a non-disclosure agreement and got special permission, they read the save game itself. Obviously Tracker can also read report files.

Tracker's Alerts include things that can be seen in the report files (in a much more convenient format), and things that are not in the report files. Such as when an LCU that has been moving finally reaches its destination. That one alone saves a ton of extra player-mouse clicking (in my experience it works 99.5% of the time, missing one here and there). There are other examples.

Read the Tracker web site. Look at some AAR's and you will see various screen pics from and references to Tracker. It is obviously not required, but it is a great aid in a campaign game.

Hope that helps.

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RE: Tracker Question - 1/30/2015 12:24:02 AM

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Howdy! I'm having some difficulty getting Tracker working. I'm sure I've screwed up something obvious, but I can't figure it out.

Here is what I get running the bat after installation:

And here is my witptracker.properties contents:

# WitPTracker AE properties file
# Directory of the game
Dir=[C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition]
# Type of game. 0=AI, 1=PBEM
GameType=[1]
# Side you are playing. 0=Japan, 1=Allies
Side=[0]
# Password. Only needed for PBEM
Password=[Sydney]
# Name of the base save file
SaveFile=[wpae011.pws]
# Mode the program will look for save files.
#   0 = just in the local folder
#   1 = just in the game folder: [Dir]/SAVE
#   2 = local and then if not found there, the game folder
SaveMode=[2]
# Text to put in the header of the main window
Header=[wpae011]
# Turn cycle (days per turn). 1 or 2 are supported
TurnCycle=[1]

Any help would be very much appreciated.

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RE: Tracker Question - 1/30/2015 10:44:09 PM

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witpqs,
Since I don't do Jivea I won't bother with Tracker. I'll just keep track of things from inside the game. You didn't answer my most important question as to whether Tracker tracks messages we see as the turn progresses, like when and where fortification levels are reached, rather than what's only in the Ops or SigInt reports.

Omnius

The current release reads and saves the SigInt reports. The next release (whenever that happens) will read and save the Operations reports.

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RE: Tracker Question - 1/30/2015 10:45:44 PM

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Howdy! I'm having some difficulty getting Tracker working. I'm sure I've screwed up something obvious, but I can't figure it out.

Here is what I get running the bat after installation:

[...]

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Try copying the pwsdll.dll file from the Beta2 folder of the game on top of what comes with WitPTracker, remove the trackerdb files and then try running again.

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Thanks - 2/1/2015 4:13:31 PM

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floydg,
Thanks for the answer on Tracker. While it looks helpful I wonder how much time one must spend outside of the game to read the Tracker info? I just made a production spreadsheet in my MacBookPro laptop to aid in aircraft & engine production and how many HI points those will consume. I may make a spreadsheet for each side to track some things and be able to consult spreadsheet at the same time I'm looking at the game screen.

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RE: Thanks - 2/1/2015 5:35:57 PM

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I use AE in windowed mode and easily switch back and forth between AE and other applications during the orders phase, such as: Tracker, Notepadd++ (text editor to view all four turn reports plus write the AAR post plus sometimes take notes), Intel Monkey, Libre Office spreadsheet application, Paint.net (to mark up screen pics taken with Greenshot), and sometimes others.

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RE: Thanks - 2/3/2015 4:23:03 PM

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I'm having a problem with tracker only loading the odd-day turn in my 2 days a turn campaign against the AI. This started at T150 and has been continuing into T159 now.

The error reads something like "asigint_420505 contains only 1 day while the game is set to 2" or something, but I stupidly closed cmd.exe before I took notes. Looks like I can still manually load the textfiles into tracker though.

e: Looks like this was already reported a couple of pages ago

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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.0 - 2/20/2015 12:26:22 AM

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Is there a different place to download Java 6? Oracle requires an account and is no longer available to the public. :(

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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.0 - 2/20/2015 1:10:16 AM

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Is there a different place to download Java 6? Oracle requires an account and is no longer available to the public. :(

Look at the Tracker website, in particular at this page:
https://sites.google.com/site/witptracker/java6

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RE: Is this beta patch solid? - 2/20/2015 7:43:55 PM

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Needed to create a new account on Oracle. Worked fine. I thought the accounts were for dev only. Thx

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RE: Is this beta patch solid? - 2/20/2015 7:54:01 PM

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I have no idea why you would need an account for that. Maybe some new, evil plot to take over the world? But I digress.

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RE: Is this beta patch solid? - 2/21/2015 4:16:27 PM

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I have no idea why you would need an account for that. Maybe some new, evil plot to take over the world? But I digress.

Oracle is starting to get cranky about supporting old Java releases, to include Java 6:

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Only developers and Enterprise administrators should download these releases.

Downloading these releases requires an oracle.com account. If you don't have an oracle.com account you can use the links on the top of this page to learn more about it and register for one for free.

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Java 7 Status - 2/24/2015 12:16:27 AM

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All -

A little update on support for Java 7 (and Java 8).

Michael M was able to build a new pwsdll.dll file that didn't depend on Java 6 and my initial tests show that it works fine. I'll do some more testing, but it looks promising.

Floyd

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RE: Java 7 Status - 2/24/2015 1:45:47 AM

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A great news, good luck with that!

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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.0.1 Available - 3/7/2015 5:31:11 PM

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Hi there,

Tried to installthe tracker but no joy.......getting an the error below?
says there is an issue with the save (wpae005.pws).....this is a clean install of WitP AE.
Any guidance would be great as I love the WitP game but feel this is really hard to get my head round?

Windows 7 64bit

Also uninstalled and reinstalled on to C drive.

C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\WitPTracker AE Release 1.9.
2>"C:\jre6-Tracker\bin\java" -Xms384m -Xmx512m -jar "WitPTracker.jar" nomap
Initializing WitP Tracker AE database.
ERROR: Save game file "C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\WitP
Tracker AE Release 1.9.2\wpae005.pws" could not be opened.
ERROR: Problem with save game file. Exiting.

C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\WitPTracker AE Release 1.9.
2>pause
Press any key to continue . . .

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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.0.1 Available - 3/7/2015 6:26:24 PM

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Hi there,

Tried to installthe tracker but no joy.......getting an the error below?
says there is an issue with the save (wpae005.pws).....this is a clean install of WitP AE.
Any guidance would be great as I love the WitP game but feel this is really hard to get my head round?

Windows 7 64bit

Also uninstalled and reinstalled on to C drive.

C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\WitPTracker AE Release 1.9.
2>"C:\jre6-Tracker\bin\java" -Xms384m -Xmx512m -jar "WitPTracker.jar" nomap
Initializing WitP Tracker AE database.
ERROR: Save game file "C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\WitP
Tracker AE Release 1.9.2\wpae005.pws" could not be opened.
ERROR: Problem with save game file. Exiting.

C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\WitPTracker AE Release 1.9.
2>pause
Press any key to continue . . .

Simple question: is there a wpae005.pws file in this folder?

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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.0.1 Available - 3/7/2015 6:32:50 PM

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Cheers for rapid response.......
Simple answer........no.....I had the game all setup on a D: drive. Then I noticed the ERROR below with the path in bold

This is the path of the game before the uninstall and then re-install on to the C: drive D:\Games\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition

I've done a search for that save game.......just in case and nothing.....???

ERROR: Save game file "C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\WitP
Tracker AE Release 1.9.2\wpae005.pws" could not be opened.
ERROR: Problem with save game file. Exiting.

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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.0.1 Available - 3/7/2015 6:36:15 PM

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Please read this carefully: https://sites.google.com/site/witptracker/set-up

You need to point the witptracker.properties to where the save files are.

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