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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/5/2015 9:05:46 AM   
marion61

 

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Status: offline 		I've been on the "under the weather" list, so don't take my silence as apathy. My opinion still holds. Don't bother invading in France unless you find a lot of resistance in southern France. Just continue to push southwest and take Marseilles and then turn north. This will force a withdrawal from the Atlantic coast ports and if he stands put, put together another invasion behind him in northern France.

There's no need to risk another invasion since your already almost in France. I'd have one cooking in England in case you need it, and it will be ready when you do need it. Just figure out what and where your going to be in another 9 to 10 turns which is how long it takes to launch an invasion from a lvl 6 or higher port with 2 divisions. You can't attack much further east, and all those units are wasted over there, imo. You will also resolve your supply issues taking Toulon and Marseilles.

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/5/2015 2:12:12 PM   
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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/5/2015 3:20:31 PM   
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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/5/2015 4:12:57 PM   
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Gawds, this is a fun read. May be time to buy me a new game


Go get it!

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/5/2015 5:10:30 PM   
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Gawds, this is a fun read. May be time to buy me a new game

Glad you enjoy it!

It is a fun game

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/5/2015 8:26:53 PM   
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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/5/2015 8:34:20 PM   
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I can lead you to the "Well of Wisdom", but I can't make you drink from it.


No kiddin! do you know what people throw in that hole?!?

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/5/2015 11:09:40 PM   
marion61

 

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/7/2015 11:54:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Some discussion of VPs in other threads, here are mine so far with AWG. As of Turn 55.
As far as I can tell I have nearly all of the vweps vaporized, but maybe I need some better recon over the v factories?




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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/7/2015 12:50:27 PM   
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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/7/2015 12:54:40 PM   
JocMeister

 

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Status: offline 		Yupp, you need to keep recon up to see if they are repaired. Lost a bunch of VPs to the same thing in my AI game before realizing it.

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/7/2015 1:35:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I believe you need to hit the V-weapon sites as well as the V-weapon factories back in Germany to get full points, I only see the V-weapon launchers listed in your screenshot.

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/7/2015 4:28:10 PM   
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I believe you need to hit the V-weapon sites as well as the V-weapon factories back in Germany to get full points, I only see the V-weapon launchers listed in your screenshot.

v wep factories are shaded on the right side

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/7/2015 4:38:34 PM   
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I believe you need to hit the V-weapon sites as well as the V-weapon factories back in Germany to get full points, I only see the V-weapon launchers listed in your screenshot.

v wep factories are shaded on the right side


Missed that. I'm easily distracted by bright shiny objects....

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/17/2015 2:05:25 PM   
Baelfiin


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Status: offline 		Crunch my way through one hex of the mountains with no problem. German Manpower has been devastated.
Supplies to the point are getting very very low . . . .




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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/17/2015 2:21:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 43 the weather gets bad and the Germans launch a counterattack to remind me that the war is not yet over. . .
Supply situation not improving. Air transport cannot keep up with demand on the point.




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The Logistics Phase is like Black Magic and Voodoo all rolled into one.

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/17/2015 2:30:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Out of curiosity, what is your truck pool? Is it straining to keep up, and it doesn't look like the RR engineers are keeping up. But that's normal considering the terrain you've been in. Your doing great tho, and yes Corsica is still secure!

One suggestion. I'm betting most of those units are high, on fatigue. If he restocked his units, you can expect to be kicked around some if he attacks vigorously. Just be careful.

< Message edited by meklore61 -- 2/17/2015 3:33:39 PM >

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/17/2015 3:04:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		More logistical difficulties plus bad weather halt the allies in place. German resistance starts to get serious as I approach the border of the Reich.

Meklore, motor pool is in the upper right hand corner of previous screenshot. I keep meaning to try to figure out what the numbers mean but I keep getting distracted.




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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/17/2015 3:46:36 PM   
Baelfiin


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Status: offline 		Turn 45 the airforce gets back into the war.

However my troops do not have the juice to make much progress.
Germans are showing up in droves now as well.




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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/17/2015 4:51:14 PM   
marion61

 

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Status: offline 		Put some rail depots above and around the PO River to help supply flow from those ports on the West coast. You'll always receive more supply over there than on the East Coast. Milan could use one, and close to the front would help.

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/17/2015 5:21:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		They are not yet connected to the Rail net yet, but I will as soon as I can. They wont have anything to do with getting freight into those eastern ports though.

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/17/2015 6:48:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Only thing I can think keeping you from getting supply to those ports is just the distance, and how many cargo ships you have, and how many are being used trying to keep just the West Coast supplied. I'd check my cargo ships and see how many were in use last turn to see if your just using them up supplying two coast. That's my best advice, and still no paratroopers on Corsica to report!

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/18/2015 5:24:24 AM   
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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/18/2015 5:31:44 AM   
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Some discussion of VPs in other threads, here are mine so far with AWG. As of Turn 55.
As far as I can tell I have nearly all of the vweps vaporized, but maybe I need some better recon over the v factories?



I see all the VW-Launch sites as well as the factories to almost 100% damaged: where are those -12 VPs for V-Weapons from ?

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/18/2015 6:23:28 AM   
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His photo reconnaissance is out of date. The factories are repaired, but he hasn't got the pictures to prove it.

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/18/2015 8:21:31 AM   
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His photo reconnaissance is out of date. The factories are repaired, but he hasn't got the pictures to prove it.

That is exactly correct 8)

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/18/2015 10:01:11 PM   
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In otherwords, he is in denial

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/18/2015 10:38:07 PM   
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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/18/2015 10:45:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is that close to 5000 bombers over Germany in a week?

That pretty impressive.

What's going on in France?

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RE: INVADE? Need advice.... - 2/18/2015 10:50:17 PM   
Baelfiin


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Allies can finally bring all of their numbers to bear.

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