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OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 2:29:39 AM   
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I was thinking that getting her into a Montesorri school was a great idea.

Then I discovered it was some type of reading assignment rather than a history lesson about
the Southern Resource Area.



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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 2:43:27 AM   
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I was thinking that getting her into a Montesorri school was a great idea.

Then I discovered it was some type of reading assignment rather than a history lesson about
the Southern Resource Area.

warspite1

Don't worry, it gets better. I have been recently, and very gladly, helping my elder little warspite with her history homework; Weimar Republic, Hitler and Appeasement, Stalin Best thing is she is enjoying it too and so getting good grades - she even sat through the WWII in colour series!

It's really nice to actually be able to help - when I see her maths and physics homework I am totally non-plussed


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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 3:09:23 AM   
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Mine proudly brought home a perfect test score on the founding of the American Colonies. He thinks he's a 5th Grade history know-it-all!

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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 3:17:16 AM   
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I don't have kids, but I remember rolling my eyes at some of the things I saw in history class.

Same thing with science class. The school I went to for grades 6-8 was ranked the best in the Los Angeles area (it was a public school too), but my 8th grade science teacher was an idiot. I tried fighting her a few times, but it was pointless.

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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 3:30:47 AM   
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I don't have kids, but I remember rolling my eyes at some of the things I saw in history class.

Same thing with science class. The school I went to for grades 6-8 was ranked the best in the Los Angeles area (it was a public school too), but <bold>my 8th grade science teacher was an idiot</bold>. I tried fighting her a few times, but it was pointless.

Bill


We don't really care if she was an idiot, how hot was she? Never mind, you can't see it from a boy's point of view, but my 7th grade Social Studies teacher was smokin'

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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 3:40:56 AM   
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In looks I think she would be considered fairly attractive by most, but even then I found intelligence sexy. So she was not attractive to me.

(I know I'm weird)

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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 7:29:07 AM   
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I was thinking that getting her into a Montesorri school was a great idea.

Then I discovered it was some type of reading assignment rather than a history lesson about
the Southern Resource Area.

warspite1

Don't worry, it gets better. I have been recently, and very gladly, helping my elder little warspite with her history homework; Weimar Republic, Hitler and Appeasement, Stalin Best thing is she is enjoying it too and so getting good grades - she even sat through the WWII in colour series!

It's really nice to actually be able to help - when I see her maths and physics homework I am totally non-plussed


I'm glad that history classes are good on your side of the pond. Over here it frequently is revisionist heresy taught
completely without any context and commonly with any accuracy being purely coincidental.

I was lucky to have one good history teacher and another who was a great teacher, if not the most knowledgeable.

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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 7:32:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: wdolson

I don't have kids, but I remember rolling my eyes at some of the things I saw in history class.

Same thing with science class. The school I went to for grades 6-8 was ranked the best in the Los Angeles area (it was a public school too), but my 8th grade science teacher was an idiot. I tried fighting her a few times, but it was pointless.

Bill
warspite1

Yes, it is pointless - and fighting is not the way to settle differences

What makes it worse is that the teacher was female; makes yer proud does it - fighting a woman?

Shame on you wdolson
























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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 12:20:05 PM   
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Years ago, I got a graduate to train. He was from Hong Kong, one of the children of the HK Chinese who were terrified of the Chinese Communist takeover in 1999(?) and who had sent their children to various western countries, for an education and a safe haven. This kid did economics at university and came to me with a dilemma. The lecturer was BIG on state-sponsored industrial development and cited HK as one of the exemplars of this. This kid, whose father actually was the senior economic official in HK, knew this was BS. But he put it to me, should I get the top mark and parrot the rubbish the lecturer is putting out there, or should I tell her this is BS and fail? My advice was, get the degree and the job. Then tell the academics they are full of BS.

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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 12:41:45 PM   
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The revision of history is an awful thing, but the reality is that the history itself is written by the winners from their point of view. My best example to offer up would be the American Revolution. The majority of people in the colonies weren't for independence and without the French victory might have been impossible. Read a history book in the US that mentions these little tidbits.

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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 1:50:42 PM   
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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 1:52:43 PM   
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I don't have kids, but I remember rolling my eyes at some of the things I saw in history class.

Same thing with science class. The school I went to for grades 6-8 was ranked the best in the Los Angeles area (it was a public school too), but my 8th grade science teacher was an idiot. I tried fighting her a few times, but it was pointless.

Bill


I graduated from HS in the LAUSD myself, Bill. Whereabouts for you? Because unless you name *my* school (the best in the LAUSD), I'll have cause to dispute the verity of your alma mater's excellence.

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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 2:41:07 PM   
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I went to a good school but had a silly history teacher argue that the IJN sailed around the north of Russia to help the Germans halt the evacuation at Dunkirk. This same genius argued that Trafalgar was not a decisive victory because many of the captured Franco-Spanish ships sunk in a storm afterward. Wow.

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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 2:51:42 PM   
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I went to a good school but had a silly history teacher argue that the IJN sailed around the north of Russia to help the Germans halt the evacuation at Dunkirk. This same genius argued that Trafalgar was not a decisive victory because many of the captured Franco-Spanish ships sunk in a storm afterward. Wow.






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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 3:12:31 PM   
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Here the latest argument about history in schools have been that out history books are gender unequal because fewer women are mentioned by name than men. This lead the school minister to take action and demand gender equality in our history books.

At the same time my sisters son was asked when was WWI, and he answered 1914 to 1918. The history teacher declared this wrong and said that WWI was between '14 and '19.

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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 3:17:59 PM   
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Just a bit of Cold-Water reality check here...
There is no such thing as the Southern Resource Area outside this forum ...as this quick Google should illustrate.

However, there really was a Dutch East Indies

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I was thinking that getting her into a Montesorri school was a great idea.

Then I discovered it was some type of reading assignment rather than a history lesson about
the Southern Resource Area.





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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 4:01:47 PM   
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The revision of history is an awful thing, but the reality is that the history itself is written by the winners from their point of view. My best example to offer up would be the American Revolution. The majority of people in the colonies weren't for independence and without the French victory might have been impossible. Read a history book in the US that mentions these little tidbits.


The Empire would have gotten sick of it eventually. One third wanted out, one third didn't and the other third didn't give a flip.

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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 4:02:36 PM   
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I went to a good school but had a silly history teacher argue that the IJN sailed around the north of Russia to help the Germans halt the evacuation at Dunkirk. This same genius argued that Trafalgar was not a decisive victory because many of the captured Franco-Spanish ships sunk in a storm afterward. Wow.
warspite1

To be fair to your teacher, he may have been thinking of Nelson's original plan of basing the fleet, not off Trafalgar, but Alaska. See below from about 0:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clM1i88s-7Q


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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 4:09:55 PM   
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I went to a good school but had a silly history teacher argue that the IJN sailed around the north of Russia to help the Germans halt the evacuation at Dunkirk. This same genius argued that Trafalgar was not a decisive victory because many of the captured Franco-Spanish ships sunk in a storm afterward. Wow.


I had some substitute science teacher (a black one) tell us that the melanin in the skin protects the skin by reflecting sunlight. !?!?? Back to hot teachers - I had a black female math teacher in fifth grade and one time she slapped me hard. Didn't do any good. I should've got her to do it again until it did.

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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 4:10:23 PM   
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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 4:17:29 PM   
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I went to a good school but had a silly history teacher argue that the IJN sailed around the north of Russia to help the Germans halt the evacuation at Dunkirk. This same genius argued that Trafalgar was not a decisive victory because many of the captured Franco-Spanish ships sunk in a storm afterward. Wow.

Wow. Frightening.

The teacher's IQ squared is still a single digit number.

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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 4:33:59 PM   
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This is Totally Off-Topic, and my apologies, But that notwithstanding...

The sentiment stated and endlessly repeated below visa-vi the popular support for the American Revolution, seems to originated from a misquote and misreading of Adams, now enshrined as truth through repetition for the last century....
http://www.independent.org/publications/article.asp?id=1398


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The revision of history is an awful thing, but the reality is that the history itself is written by the winners from their point of view. My best example to offer up would be the American Revolution. The majority of people in the colonies weren't for independence and without the French victory might have been impossible. Read a history book in the US that mentions these little tidbits.


The Empire would have gotten sick of it eventually. One third wanted out, one third didn't and the other third didn't give a flip.



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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 6:55:54 PM   
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Very good essay for a number of reasons. All should read...

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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/5/2015 11:22:29 PM   
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Much to my misfortune I read my daughters paper on Christopher Columbus. Turns out he was thought of as a failure in Spain, a poor leader, and even worse navigator. Once he mistakenly found the New World, thinking he was in India, he proceeded to enslave and willfully commit mass murder upon the indigenous population.

I asked her why she thought that the US celebrates Columbus Day and she had no idea. We did some more research during Christmas break.

This semester they are reading the play Julius Caesar. I asked her what she knew about Caesar and she said it was unfortunate that he was killed before he could really get a start on life....Looks like we have a Spring break assignment.

I mourn for our young. The difference between the public school education that my youngest is getting and the Catholic School educations that her older siblings recieved is astonishing.

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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/6/2015 12:07:50 AM   
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I don't have kids, but I remember rolling my eyes at some of the things I saw in history class.

Same thing with science class. The school I went to for grades 6-8 was ranked the best in the Los Angeles area (it was a public school too), but my 8th grade science teacher was an idiot. I tried fighting her a few times, but it was pointless.

Bill


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I graduated from HS in the LAUSD myself, Bill. Whereabouts for you? Because unless you name *my* school (the best in the LAUSD), I'll have cause to dispute the verity of your alma mater's excellence.


It was a K-8 school (California doesn't tend to do the middle school thing, at least not So Cal) that was in LA County, but not the LA Unified School District. It was the Alhambra School District. My school was in the town next door, Monterey Park. The town had a huge Asian population (the highest percentage Asian in the US when I moved away) and those parents drove their kids and the school.

I started at a private Catholic school, but they had such severe discipline problems the education sucked. When the 5th grade teacher quit in tears around the Christmas break, I talked my parents into letting me go to the local public school. My mother was a mover and shaker in the parish. Her pulling me out set off a tidal wave of kids transferring.

6th grade in the new school was a wake up call for me. I had always been a top student in math, but suddenly I found myself a year behind. It wasn't until the middle of 7th grade that I started to catch up and move to the front of the pack again.

I went to a private high school that had a reputation for being tough academically (the school day was 8 hours long too). The first year was the "hit the wall" year for most students who cruised through primary school. Because I had already been through it from 6-8 grade, the first year wasn't that tough for me. It took some effort to get used to the long school day, and I hated the school. It was run like a prison. But academically I didn't find it that hard.

My high school had some pretty good teachers too (as well as some not so stellar). One of the history teachers had a rep for failing a lot of students. I found him to be hilariously funny and there was a lot of material to absorb, but I actually learned something new. I grew up in a household of history geeks, I picked up a lot from osmosis. It was rare that I learned something new in history class.

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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/6/2015 12:11:16 AM   
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I went to a good school but had a silly history teacher argue that the IJN sailed around the north of Russia to help the Germans halt the evacuation at Dunkirk. This same genius argued that Trafalgar was not a decisive victory because many of the captured Franco-Spanish ships sunk in a storm afterward. Wow.

wow, this will be a fun thread. I recall my 7th grade teacher telling the class the flying tigers fought with Chang against the communist in 1948. I also recall immediately raising my hand, getting her attention, and then correcting her in class that the flying tigers fought against the Japs in 41. And she told I was wrong in front of the class. So I shut up, waited till class was out, went to the librairy and brought her a book with the data.

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Looking at above post I am amazed I new what I was talking about in the 7th grade.


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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/6/2015 2:46:41 AM   
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My elder warspite's primary school teacher telling the class about how WWI started over Poland still takes some beating.

Not military related, but kind of following on from ndworl, I was told - with a straight face and deadly serious - by my economics teacher that with my right-of-centre views I might still have a chance of getting an o-level in the subject ..... no bias there then....


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RE: OT-Daughter's homework had something about SRA - 3/6/2015 3:22:37 AM   
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1965 high school world history.

Roman empire: Student to teacher:( not me)

" why was the roman army so good ".

Teacher to student:
" they have a good war machine "

Student to teacher:

" what kind of machine was it"

Teacher to student:

" I'm not sure it was probably some kind of crossbow "

Me to teacher:

"You're an idiot"

Me to the vice principal's office end of story.

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Much to my misfortune I read my daughters paper on Christopher Columbus. Turns out he was thought of as a failure in Spain, a poor leader, and even worse navigator. Once he mistakenly found the New World, thinking he was in India, he proceeded to enslave and willfully commit mass murder upon the indigenous population.

I asked her why she thought that the US celebrates Columbus Day and she had no idea. We did some more research during Christmas break.

This semester they are reading the play Julius Caesar. I asked her what she knew about Caesar and she said it was unfortunate that he was killed before he could really get a start on life....Looks like we have a Spring break assignment.

I mourn for our young. The difference between the public school education that my youngest is getting and the Catholic School educations that her older siblings recieved is astonishing.


Poor Julius, he was so young he had no time for... wait...



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