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RE: TGW AAR - 3/31/2015 1:53:40 PM   
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Progress is moving along nicely in the south, I was planning on moving a Panzer Korps down here to assist, but maybe we'll see how the Allies manage with just the 13th Army Korps first and some seige arty.




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RE: TGW AAR - 3/31/2015 9:33:43 PM   
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See next post for damaged aircraft on both sides... lol

6 Soviet bomber wings.. ouch
2 German air fleets defend, one was a bomber group.




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RE: TGW AAR - 3/31/2015 9:36:45 PM   
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Damn... Look at the number of Soviet bombers in this attack. Hard to believe that there's an airfield left.. lol

I'm just glad that I had a Me-110 air fleet at the field, and ofc, AA unit on 3 dot defense.. hehe






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RE: TGW AAR - 3/31/2015 10:04:44 PM   
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Engaged aircraft and losses..

Damn... Look at the number of Soviet bombers in this attack. Hard to believe that there's an airfield left.. lol

I'm just glad that I had a Me-110 air fleet at the field, and ofc, AA unit on 3 dot defense.. hehe



Wow.........is that the kind of attack from Elmer that I can look forward to? D'oh. Hey Comm. V dude I've got good news and bad news.
The good news is the Soviets stop making any more IL-4's in another year or so. And the bad news is that the
Soviets are making 75 new ones each turn. You may have to do a bunch of airfield
attacks to find and kill them all.




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RE: TGW AAR - 4/1/2015 2:39:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		New equipment hitting the battlefield with the 6th Panzer Division refit...

dun dun dun.. too bad there's not more rolling out to the field.

Excited to get the beast on the field of battle.




6th Panzer and the rest of the 41st PzK may need to get redeployed to AGS for the advance to Stalingrad in the spring of 1943... Forces are assembling to strike at the heart of Russia, take the city named after the leader, that's surely to demoralize them completely....


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RE: TGW AAR - 4/1/2015 3:03:16 AM   
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Assault into the Crimea is moving along well, Soviet troops have been encircled and are being eliminated slowly. The 13th AK has reinforced the Italian troops who had taken lead on the drive to Sevastopol.




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RE: TGW AAR - 4/1/2015 3:19:37 AM   
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3 main jump off points as labeled below on the map. Left and right flanks will be held using the river Don as a natural defensive barrier. Infantry AK's will hold the river defense at locations where forging is possible, that way it will help stretch out the attackers effectiveness and lengthen the line.

Panzer Korps will take lead followed by additional Army Korps. First Rostov needs to be taken and the bridge destroyed to prevent attack from Soviet troops railing up from the south. Mobile forces will race forward to cut of soviet troops from retreating back across the River Don.

Operation is scheduled to commence the first week of March, providing the spring rains stay light and the ground is solid.






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RE: TGW AAR - 4/1/2015 4:08:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		I wish you fair winds and good luck and all that but are you aware of the trap at Stalingrad? There's cliffs all
around the city so you have to enter the city by road and if the Soviets blow the bridge across the Don then
you would have to repair the bridge while under fire and or go around and cross the bridge from the
east side. I must have spun my wheels for at least a month game time before I found the magic to take the
city.

EDIT: OOOooops It's not the Don I'm thinking of. What the name of that river that runs right next to or
through the city itself. That one.

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RE: TGW AAR - 4/1/2015 1:15:42 PM   
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I wish you fair winds and good luck and all that but are you aware of the trap at Stalingrad? There's cliffs all
around the city so you have to enter the city by road and if the Soviets blow the bridge across the Don then
you would have to repair the bridge while under fire and or go around and cross the bridge from the
east side. I must have spun my wheels for at least a month game time before I found the magic to take the
city.

EDIT: OOOooops It's not the Don I'm thinking of. What the name of that river that runs right next to or
through the city itself. That one.


I had to google it to find it.. Looks like it's called the "Wolga".. lol

And thanks for the details on capturing the city. I will keep that in mind when I hit the city.




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RE: TGW AAR - 4/1/2015 3:06:45 PM   
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Lots of destroyed aircraft, still lots operational.. Never ending battle.




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RE: TGW AAR - 4/3/2015 1:32:28 AM   
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Operations to take the Crimea are pretty much finished up. Soviet troops have been forced back into Sevastopol and now the siege begins.

The Italian forces have been tasked with holding this part of the theater. All other forces are being withdrawn to assist with the push to Stalingrad.




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RE: TGW AAR - 4/3/2015 2:27:49 AM   
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Rostov has been taken, and the bridges south have been destroyed along with the airfield cleared out. German forces will maintain defensive positions on the north side of the river and hold in place. Small gains have been made early here, with no really resistance, probes continue to be pushed forward. The right flank has been secured, and the left is being extended.






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RE: TGW AAR - 4/3/2015 3:06:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Tigers in the 6. Panzer-Division? I suppose the Tiger abteilungen are consolidated within the Pz Divisions because of the scenario scale?

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RE: TGW AAR - 4/3/2015 3:12:57 AM   
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Tigers in the 6. Panzer-Division? I suppose the Tiger abteilungen are consolidated within the Pz Divisions because of the scenario scale?

Um.........we'd have to ask Steve Sill for the definative answer of course but from what Steve has told me, unless I misunderstood
or missed a memo it's a rule of thumb for Steve, the less the number of units the better. He's nixed the HQ's for the Divisions for
example. Those are abstracted. So yeah, I'm guessing you're right.

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RE: TGW AAR - 4/3/2015 3:13:58 AM   
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While securing the left flank, there was a bit of an incursion by elements of the 5th Guards Tank Army; 5th Guards Calvary Division, 5th and 7th Tank division. Pushed the 170th Infantry division back and broke up the division. A bit of confusion is going on with this strong of an attack across the river. SS LAH has just returned from France with a full refit, this division was railed into the battle zone, and will be added to the forces repelling this incursion. 3rd Panzer was also diverted to this battlezone for panzer support.






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RE: TGW AAR - 4/3/2015 7:11:28 AM   
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Tigers in the 6. Panzer-Division? I suppose the Tiger abteilungen are consolidated within the Pz Divisions because of the scenario scale?

Um.........we'd have to ask Steve Sill for the definative answer of course but from what Steve has told me, unless I misunderstood
or missed a memo it's a rule of thumb for Steve, the less the number of units the better. He's nixed the HQ's for the Divisions for
example. Those are abstracted. So yeah, I'm guessing you're right.


Tiger I Abteilungs are included in the Panzer divisions when they are refit. Tiger II Abteilungs are separate units.

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RE: TGW AAR - 4/3/2015 1:22:38 PM   
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Tigers in the 6. Panzer-Division? I suppose the Tiger abteilungen are consolidated within the Pz Divisions because of the scenario scale?

Um.........we'd have to ask Steve Sill for the definative answer of course but from what Steve has told me, unless I misunderstood
or missed a memo it's a rule of thumb for Steve, the less the number of units the better. He's nixed the HQ's for the Divisions for
example. Those are abstracted. So yeah, I'm guessing you're right.


Tiger I Abteilungs are included in the Panzer divisions when they are refit. Tiger II Abteilungs are separate units.


Thanks Steve, seemed the simple answer.. And, no, I was not complaining about having Tigers... Me likey!

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RE: TGW AAR - 4/3/2015 3:50:10 PM   
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Tigers in the 6. Panzer-Division? I suppose the Tiger abteilungen are consolidated within the Pz Divisions because of the scenario scale?

Um.........we'd have to ask Steve Sill for the definative answer of course but from what Steve has told me, unless I misunderstood
or missed a memo it's a rule of thumb for Steve, the less the number of units the better. He's nixed the HQ's for the Divisions for
example. Those are abstracted. So yeah, I'm guessing you're right.


Tiger I Abteilungs are included in the Panzer divisions when they are refit. Tiger II Abteilungs are separate units.


Thanks for the clarification.

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RE: TGW AAR - 4/3/2015 4:12:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		On the topic of refits, 16th PzGr Division refit is taking a long time in my opinion.. but, I am also doing a refit on SS Wiking PzGr division and 6th Panzer division.

I'm thinking that the 16th PzGr is taking second seat to both of the other divisions undergoing refit, as well as the replacements going out to the front.

16th PzGr Division - part of 1st Panzer group (refit started November 8th, 1942) - 0/50 trucks
SS Wiking PzGr Diviosn - part of XIV Pzk (refit started November 15th, 1942) - 42/276 trucks
6th Panzer Division - part of XLI Pzk (refit started December 6th, 1942) - 15/60 trucks

Steve, can you confirm or deny that the 16th PzGr Divison is lower on the priority list for equipment? 16th PzGr has been sitting in Berlin since November 8th,1942 and it's now January 17th, 1943. As you can see from the picture below, they haven't gotten any truck replacements yet. Which I find odd.

Moving forward, I'm thinking that I will only refit one division at a time, to keep from spreading out the limited equipment replacements and holding up the return to the field.




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RE: TGW AAR - 4/3/2015 8:31:04 PM   
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Steve, can you confirm or deny that the 16th PzGr Divison is lower on the priority list for equipment? 16th PzGr has been sitting in Berlin since November 8th,1942 and it's now January 17th, 1943. As you can see from the picture below, they haven't gotten any truck replacements yet. Which I find odd.

Moving forward, I'm thinking that I will only refit one division at a time, to keep from spreading out the limited equipment replacements and holding up the return to the field.

Yo Commander V dude: Check your inventory and see if you have any trucks on hand. I see where we're making only 60 new ones
each turn and if you're losing them faster than that you might just be almost out of trucks. I'm only on turn 60 and haven't really exposed a lot of my trucks to combat yet and so I've got 3K+ of them but I'd be curious to know how many you got.

EDIT: Also, I wanted to say that the idea of spreading out the refits of the Panzers is a really really good idea. I did 6 divisions at
the same time in a previous game and I don't remember ever seeing them again. D'oh.





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RE: TGW AAR - 4/3/2015 9:00:55 PM   
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The Pz and PzGr Div's have the same priority, SS units have higher.

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RE: TGW AAR - 4/3/2015 9:07:31 PM   
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I'm thinking that I will only refit one division at a time, to keep from spreading out the limited equipment replacements and holding up the return to the field.


That is the way it was intended, as that is what happened historically. Of course, when the units are disbanded there is no way to guarantee that equipment goes back to the same unit. And if at least 66% of the 1st Line is not given by the engine, then the unit will not come back. I suspect that is why when a bunch are refit at the same time, it takes them longer to return.

Units usually were out for months refitting, and except for the SS rarely were units brought all the way up to TO&E. So it seems like it it working as intended. It might take some getting used to, but we've used the same system for D21 for years.

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RE: TGW AAR - 4/3/2015 9:49:09 PM   
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Steve, can you confirm or deny that the 16th PzGr Divison is lower on the priority list for equipment? 16th PzGr has been sitting in Berlin since November 8th,1942 and it's now January 17th, 1943. As you can see from the picture below, they haven't gotten any truck replacements yet. Which I find odd.

Moving forward, I'm thinking that I will only refit one division at a time, to keep from spreading out the limited equipment replacements and holding up the return to the field.

Yo Commander V dude: Check your inventory and see if you have any trucks on hand. I see where we're making only 60 new ones
each turn and if you're losing them faster than that you might just be almost out of trucks. I'm only on turn 60 and haven't really exposed a lot of my trucks to combat yet and so I've got 3K+ of them but I'd be curious to know how many you got.

EDIT: Also, I wanted to say that the idea of spreading out the refits of the Panzers is a really really good idea. I did 6 divisions at
the same time in a previous game and I don't remember ever seeing them again. D'oh.





I'm in great shape with trucks on hand, and my per turn is down to a 23 rate in JAN43.




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RE: TGW AAR - 4/5/2015 8:26:58 PM   
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Rostov has been captured, and the defensive forces are set up to hold that sector. On the north side resistance is heavier, and will take a little longer to secure.






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RE: TGW AAR - 4/10/2015 3:08:15 PM   
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Air Fleet assignments -

AS missions - All Bf-109 squads(Forward airfields), All FW-190 squads(forward airfields), and All Me-110 squads(back from front lines helping defend bombers squads being attacked)
CS missions - None
Interdiction missions - All bomber aircraft (Located at second tier airfields back from front lines)








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RE: TGW AAR - 4/10/2015 3:26:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		I opted to test the airfield attack on a Soviet frontline airbase. Results were better than I expected.

Destroyed all 3 soviet air wings at the field during the second attack on the airfield.






I may have to increase my airfield attacks to reduce the Soviet Air dominance over the battlefield. Only drawback is that the bomber squads drop rapidly in readiness and supply with airfield attacks.

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RE: TGW AAR - 4/10/2015 3:30:30 PM   
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I opted to test the airfield attack on a Soviet frontline airbase. Results were better than I expected.

Destroyed all 3 soviet air wings at the field during the second attack on the airfield.

I may have to increase my airfield attacks to reduce the Soviet Air dominance over the battlefield.

I'm glad your results were good. I've noticed mixed results on airfield strikes and I think it's because some of them
are escorted and some are not. There IS a difference in the results of the strike ( BDA ) and losses. Keep track
will you, of the results of your airfield strikes because I'm curious to know how your airfield strikes come out.

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RE: TGW AAR - 4/10/2015 3:42:53 PM   
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I opted to test the airfield attack on a Soviet frontline airbase. Results were better than I expected.

Destroyed all 3 soviet air wings at the field during the second attack on the airfield.

I may have to increase my airfield attacks to reduce the Soviet Air dominance over the battlefield.

I'm glad your results were good. I've noticed mixed results on airfield strikes and I think it's because some of them
are escorted and some are not. There IS a difference in the results of the strike ( BDA ) and losses. Keep track
will you, of the results of your airfield strikes because I'm curious to know how your airfield strikes come out.


I think I may have gotten lucky, and as well, with the location of the strike. And, there was no Soviet response from fighters either. I will post additional strikes as I conduct them.







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RE: TGW AAR - 4/17/2015 4:12:50 AM   
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Haven't had really good time to play and post.. been busy with work and RL. But, have some time tonight, so I'm firing up the Panzers and gaining ground.

The push towards Stalingrad is ongoing. Strong Soviet units have started showing up along the left flank of the advancement. Yellow encircled area shows incursions by the Soviets. More Anti-Tank units are being railed into the area for support against the Red hordes...






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RE: TGW AAR - 4/17/2015 4:15:11 AM   
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I opted to test the airfield attack on a Soviet frontline airbase. Results were better than I expected.

Destroyed all 3 soviet air wings at the field during the second attack on the airfield.

I may have to increase my airfield attacks to reduce the Soviet Air dominance over the battlefield.

I'm glad your results were good. I've noticed mixed results on airfield strikes and I think it's because some of them
are escorted and some are not. There IS a difference in the results of the strike ( BDA ) and losses. Keep track
will you, of the results of your airfield strikes because I'm curious to know how your airfield strikes come out.


Completed another successful Airfield attack which destroyed 3 more Soviet Air groups. I saturated the area with fighter cover, and hammered the airfield with 6 bomber air groups. Soviet bombers had no chance. Didn't get a screen shot of the battle results, but Soviet's had 100% losses, and German's had 0% losses.

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