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Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/4/2015 3:10:07 PM   
CapnDarwin


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Status: offline 		First off a Happy Easter to those of you celebrating the holiday. We were hoping to add tot he holiday goodness with a release of 2.09 this week, but we are still working on two last minute bugs. One seems to be fixed and now we are getting the proper unit types again for certain units. We are also addressing the lack of DS and CB fires when the FSCC is off. We have had a bit of success getting it to work once but then it fails to continue. Once Rob is back from his weekend we will see if it can be fixed or if we revert the code and ship out 2.09 with all the other fixes and tweaks and work the issue with the Artillery overhaul planned for 2.1.

Enjoy your weekend!

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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/4/2015 9:21:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Happy Easter to you and thanks for the update!

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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/13/2015 8:35:35 PM   
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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/13/2015 8:47:02 PM   
CapnDarwin


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Status: offline 		Trying to put it to bed tonight. We have a couple real "fun" bugs to deal with. We will review the items tonight and let folks know.

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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/13/2015 9:48:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Double Deuce

So what's the word . . .


What's the word.....BIRD is the word

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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/14/2015 8:32:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tazak


quote:

ORIGINAL: Double Deuce

So what's the word . . .


What's the word.....BIRD is the word


Wave your hands in the air
Like you don't care, glide by
The People as they start to look and stare.
Do you patch, do your patch quick
Mama, come on baby, tell me what's
The Word, ah – word up,
Everybody say when you hear the call
You got to get it underway,
Word up, it's the code word,
No matter where you say it,
You'll know that you'll be heard.

Now all you sucker. DV's
Who think you're fly
There's got to be a reason
And we know the reason why.
And act real cool
But you got to realise
That you're acting like fools.
If there's beta we can use it
We need to play.
We don't have that time
For psychological romance
No romance
No romance
No romance for me mama
Come on baby tell me what's the word.
Ah, word up,
Everybody say when you hear the call
You got to get it underway.


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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/14/2015 9:58:00 AM   
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it happened to be on TV at the time I was reading the thread :)

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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/14/2015 5:04:00 PM   
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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/15/2015 10:58:06 AM   
CapnDarwin


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Status: offline 		Yes there was. On our website. I'll post the what's new document up there again tonight and drop a link here as well.

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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/23/2015 10:34:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Capn Darwin

Yes there was. On our website. I'll post the what's new document up there again tonight and drop a link here as well.


Gents:

Please advise on the 2.09 update. Availability date?

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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/23/2015 1:06:51 PM   
Jagger2002

 

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Status: offline 		I hope to see a fix to unexecuted orders. I am noticing that problem too often. It can end a game quickly when a main force of tanks is lost because they just sit there when they should be retreating or don't take advantage of very limited smoke or the APCs lead instead of the tanks on coffee break. It is a relatively rare event but it does seem to happen at crucial points in the game. Or maybe it creates crucial points in the game.

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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/23/2015 2:28:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Jagger2002, do you have any specific examples with a save game that you can post in the tech support sub forum to help us isolate the issue? Are you plotting orders that don't happen? Are units delayed in moving compared to the next action time shown in the UDP? Sitting when they should retreat was tweaked again in the 2.09 update that should be coming out soon. It won't make everyone happy because some folks want units to fight and die in place and others want hit and run. That problem is a focus of the addition of SOPs for Southern Storm. Then players can set a fight or flight threshold.



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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/23/2015 2:46:19 PM   
Jagger2002

 

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Status: offline 		No, I haven't been saving examples because in reading, it appeared to be a known problem. The next one I see, I can make a save.

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Are you plotting orders that don't happen?
Basically orders appear to be delayed. Units may sit there for a turn or two or three beyond the expected command delay until the orders are executed. Each turn that they sit, the time to first plotted waypoint is the start of the turn regardless of distance to the first waypoint. Somewhere in tech support, I remember finding someone report this same bug.


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Are units delayed in moving compared to the next action time shown in the UDP?
Yes.


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Sitting when they should retreat was tweaked again in the 2.09 update that should be coming out soon.
It won't make everyone happy because some folks want units to fight and die in place and others want hit and run. That problem is a focus of the addition of SOPs for Southern Storm. Then players can set a fight or flight threshold.


My comment was directed towards ordered retreats not executed in a timely manner rather than AI response to combat situations.


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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/23/2015 3:23:05 PM   
CapnDarwin


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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/24/2015 1:44:11 AM   
Jagger2002

 

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Status: offline 		Here is another type of order timing problem. The unit/s in the image below began executing their turn on the last turn without a problem. However on the current 1218 turn, the units are indicated as reaching waypoint 1 at 1218 even though they still must travel 7 hexes to reach waypoint 1. They will not reach waypoint 1 at 1218 considering the turn starts at 1218. And I do not trust the value of 1232 for reaching waypoint 2. Without trusting the arrival time at waypoint 2, I can't place smoke with confidence at waypoint 2. And those units will badly need smoke at waypoint 2. I have a game save of this turn if needed but IIRC, this problem has also been reported.


http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff116/Jagger_016/order%20problem.jpg


Odd, I don't seem to be able to insert an image into this message. The link above will take you to the image.

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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/24/2015 1:59:09 AM   
Jagger2002

 

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Status: offline 		I just ran the turn. According to the waypoint indicators, those units should have arrived at waypoint 1 at 1218 and waypoint 2 at 1232. Actual arrival times were waypoint 1=1235 and still had not reached waypoint 2 at 1242 which was the end of the turn. When this bug is there, the predicted arrival times are significantly off.

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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/24/2015 11:11:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mwest


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ORIGINAL: Capn Darwin

Yes there was. On our website. I'll post the what's new document up there again tonight and drop a link here as well.


Gents:

Please advise on the 2.09 update. Availability date?


Gents:

I'll bump my original post so it does not get lost in the shuffle of players reporting tech / bugs!


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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/24/2015 11:45:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		The update is with Matrix this week to get it all rolled up for releases (both matrix and steam). As soon as we here a fire date well let folks know.

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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/24/2015 11:48:38 AM   
CapnDarwin


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Status: offline 		Jagger2002, can you open a thread in tech support for you timing bug? We can better track it in there. Also see if you can get us a save file that shows the bug like you picture above. I know we have worked on that type of bug a lot and believe it to be dead, but you may have found a new case.

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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/24/2015 11:54:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Capn Darwin

The update is with Matrix this week to get it all rolled up for releases (both matrix and steam). As soon as we here a fire date well let folks know.


Hey Jim:

Thank you sir!



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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/24/2015 12:37:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Capn Darwin
I'll post the what's new document up there again tonight and drop a link here as well.


Could we see the What's New please?

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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/24/2015 1:26:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		I will try to remember to put that back up on the website tonight and post a link to it.

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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/25/2015 1:50:12 AM   
CapnDarwin


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Status: offline 		2.09 Update What's New Compilation Document

Get it while its hot!

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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/29/2015 7:36:55 AM   
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There's another thread lower down from someone who's worried about the First Strike scenariio being unbalanced. He was correctly informed that he's not "a dumbass", as he feared, but that several scenarios - including First Strike - have become unbalanced after having absorbed all the updates we've had in the last couple years. Once 2.09 comes out, the developer can get around to re-establishing equilibrium in the scenarios.
So, anyway, we're all waiting.

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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/29/2015 11:18:39 AM   
CapnDarwin


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Status: offline 		The update is in the Matrix queue right now. They package, we check, and they release. When they package is matter of release schedule on their end. As soon as we know, we will let you guys know.

Yes, as mentioned in the other thread, Steve will be looking at the scenarios over the next several weeks and we will post them when he is ready with them. The jury is still out on if that will be a bulk download or in bite sized bits.

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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/29/2015 6:58:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Any chance you can make the 2.09 update available on your website? In the Matrix queue could mean anything, maybe today or another week or a month.

I just bought Red Storm a few weeks back and it seems I just missed the opportunity to download the 2.09 beta before it was removed. And it sounds like it fixes the orders problem which has been my major frustration.

Or does anyone have the latest beta 2.09? If anyone could email me the file that would let me start playing again without the order frustration.

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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/29/2015 9:06:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Let me warn you that 2.09 beta had some bugs. I will see where we are this evening with the Matrix queue and chat with the team as well. Best I can do right now.

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RE: Happy Easter and a word on 2.09 - 4/30/2015 12:19:45 AM   
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