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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 10/10/2013 11:09:07 PM   
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I have a couple of the older Tamiya 1/350 kits. They are older kits, so you don't get the eye popping detail from the new high pressure molds, but for the era, they are probably the best in the scale, and they are well priced.

Dragon's kits are also nice and cover a few of the American CVL's and many different U.S. Destroyer classes.


I agree, despite the age of the Tamiya BB kits they still stand up well. I have the old Yamato, Bismarck and KGV kits. I also bought photo-etch detail sets for all three to improve the detail but even without it they would still be great looking models.

I have the Dragon Independence and you are spot on, detail looks great. I paid $140 for it.

I went a little nuts in Vancouver this year at a hobby shop I go to that has a 25% sale every year. I bought a 1:400 Anniversary Titanic (Academy), 1:350 Italian BB Roma (Trumpeter), Japanese BB Kongo (Hasegawa or Fujimi I can't remember) and 1:700 ships of the CV Franklin and Hancock I believe (Trumpeter).

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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 10/11/2013 12:24:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you want hollow gun barrels for the old Tamiya kits, you can buy some aftermarket and they would look just as good as the new mold kits. In the end you would probably still have more money left in your pocket. I think the price of the Yamato jumped from around $50 to almost $200. What could they do to quadruple the value?

Edit: BTW, Squadron has a sale on big kits right now - http://www.squadron.com/category-s/2949.htm?searching=Y&sort=2&cat=2949&show=300&page=1

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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 10/11/2013 1:00:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is there anyone in UK in the market to make me a New Jersey in some sort of display box on a diaroma of sea?
Its for a business client in China , suggest 1/700 or similar. right price for good work.

Please PM me gingerdragon@btconnect.com

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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 10/11/2013 1:50:54 PM   
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I have the Dragon Independence and you are spot on, detail looks great. I paid $140 for it.


I lucked out with mine. I had been hemming and hawing for months between Independence and Gambier Bay, until I checked Freetime's clearance page and Independence was $90 at the time. Made that choice easy at the time. I still want a CVE, though. Dragon also has the Princeton kit, and I think the gun galleries and such are a bit different, so it's not just a clone of the other kit.

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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 10/12/2013 5:43:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi, these pics were courtesy of my opponent. I believe they are 1/700 but could be larger.






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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 10/12/2013 5:44:02 AM   
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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 10/12/2013 5:44:41 AM   
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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 10/12/2013 6:17:06 AM   
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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 11/12/2013 2:20:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		My other project mostly finished. I need a few railings on the upper decks and the rigging to do, but I'll get to that whenever.

USS Benson.





I was going to work on my 1/350 Dreadnought, but I got my 1/700 Arizona in the mail and couldn't resist. I usually struggle with "braille scale", but this one seems to be going alright. I got a wood deck for it, and it looks pretty amazing. My plan for this one is a Pearl Harbor diorama, with her, Vestal and a couple quays in a peaceful little scene.



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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 11/12/2013 5:36:44 PM   
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That is magnificent work!

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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 11/12/2013 7:18:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Those battle pics are amazing. I aspire to do something smaller (Naval Battle of Guadalcanal, the CAs vs. Kongos one) for a coffee table someday.

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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 5/19/2015 11:01:24 PM   
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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 5/19/2015 11:02:00 PM   
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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 5/19/2015 11:02:49 PM   
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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 5/20/2015 4:45:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Fabulous work there Mundy. Thanks for posting. Great encouragement to keep myself occupied in this hobby.

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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 5/20/2015 11:47:28 AM   
Mundy


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Status: offline 		I did go through burnout now and then.  It wasn't an easy build.  Not a fault of the kit itself, as it's well detailed.  The instructions weren't well organized, and it was easy to lose track of where I was and miss parts.

I tried to capture this look, with the Measure 11 poking through the Measure 22.



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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 5/20/2015 11:52:24 AM   
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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 5/20/2015 12:02:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I like your detail work on the bows Mundy. I must make time to build models... no need to worry about burn out.

A diverse collection you have there HB.

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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 5/20/2015 12:38:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dad had a hobby shop across from the main gate of Tech High School (Indianapolis)in the early fifties once he returned from Korea. My brother and I were involved with all the models from then till maybe 15 years ago?
Renwal, Palmer Plastics, Aurora, Revell, Monogram, Airfix, Hawk, AMT, Pyro, Frog, Tamiya, Hasegawa, Bowser, Athearn, built everything they ever made up to maybe the mid sixties..

At 1/700 scale, the color difference is not really going to be noticeable, but just for fun, you CAN make a difference by painting your model and then giving it a "wash" using india ink and wiping it off.
You can also dilute the ink with a bit of water for weathering models.



TIP OF THE DAY:....cars these days lack chrome, but for the old farts amongst us who still have some...Never buy "chrome cleaner"..Instead, wrap up a ball of aluminum foil and rub it across your chrome bumpers..It will remove tarnish and rust, and is too soft to scratch chrome..
Commercial cleaners contain acid which is bad for the chrome and will force you to use their product more often..........

On bigger model cars, use an exacto knife and cut the chrome strips from your foil to glue to the sides of your model cars..A pencil may be used to get it into the details of the molded model body.



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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 5/20/2015 12:49:53 PM   
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There are specialty products around now that fill the needs of scratch built items like your chrome:

http://bare-metal.com/bare-metal-foil.html

Still, sometimes good old fashioned ingenuity triumphs.

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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 5/20/2015 12:52:51 PM   
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I like your detail work on the bows Mundy. I must make time to build models... no need to worry about burn out.

A diverse collection you have there HB.



I'm terrible at actually finishing.

I get half way through a kit and start another.

I have 5-7 projects going at any one time.

The function of a very short attention span I'm afraid.

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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 5/20/2015 1:16:44 PM   
Mundy


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Status: offline 		I have the attention span issue also.  Probably why I can never finish a Warhammer army.  New books keep coming out.

I'm going to give her the drybrush treatment to pop out some of the detail.  I like Citadel's foundation paints 'cause they pop out more.  For a bland monotone scheme like Ms.21 you tend to need to.

I've got the planes to do, but they're not too bad, despite the microscopic parts molded in brittle clear plastic.  I did put two in the hanger.

Not sure what's next.  The stash is pretty big.  I may work on my Necron army for awhile, as I've neglected it for awhile.  I do have a DD-805 USS Chevalier Gearing class with a big aftermarket set.  I also have a barely started Chikuma and Indianapolis.  It's a little early for a new Carrier.  I have a CV-2, CV-5, CV-13 and Gambier Bay waiting.  Lex would probably be the easiest one of the bunch.  I also have some 1/700 stuff for when I feel like doing a water base.

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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 5/20/2015 3:59:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I remember building model ships, making them water tight, launching them into my local lake, then throwing M-80's at them...

If only we had YouTube back then...

Good times...

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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 5/20/2015 8:16:28 PM   
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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 5/20/2015 9:17:59 PM   
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A few works in progress on my desk:







That is ALMOST as cluttered as my work desk.

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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 5/20/2015 11:50:40 PM   
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I remember building model ships, making them water tight, launching them into my local lake, then throwing M-80's at them...

If only we had YouTube back then...

Good times...


Nothing quite as satisfying as playing with M-80's!

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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 5/21/2015 12:10:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		My father was a professional photographer who did difficult color commercial work starting in the early 50s. He was also a model railroader back then and got into model aircraft in the 60s. When I was in high school we went to a model railroad convention and the guy who was going to do an airbrushing clinic didn't show up. The organizer overheard me telling my father he could do it and he got drafted. His advice was so popular he was booked into every model railroad convention in Southern California until we moved away from Los Angeles. As demonstrations of weathering he printed up some of his color photographs from the early 50s and they were almost more popular than his clinic. He never thought his work was all that valuable, so he didn't print any up to sell.

Anyway, one of his points was scaling color to the light conditions and scale of your subject. He points out that a steam locomotive is painted black, but out in the full sun, it is more of a dark gray. If you paint your model locomotive that will be seen under indoor lighting the same color, your going to lose a lot of detail in the inky blackness. Instead, mix a bit of white in to make it a dark gray and under indoor lighting the model will look more like the real thing in sunlight.

We did the same thing with camouflage. German aircraft often had the two tone green on the top sides, but if you paint a model with the authentic shades, you're not going to be able to tell the difference when your done under indoor lighting. I always lightened one of the greens to make more of a contrast under indoor lighting.

With a small subject like a 1/700 scale ship, you have two problems, it will be seen under weaker light than the original and it's such a small subject, the eye is going to blend similar colors. When putting to small patches of color next to one another, the eye will blend them together into one color if there is too little contrast between them. Instead if you make the contrast more pronounced, the colors will be more obvious to the eye.

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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 5/21/2015 2:56:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		I used to have a handy formula somewhere about what ratios to use in lightening paints, depending on the scale used. At 1/350, I don't do a lot, except to highlight panels (post-shading), whereas in 1/700 I'm more likely. I haven't experimented with pre-shading yet, like I normally do with aircraft. Yorktown would be a good candidate for this as heavy as the hull plating is molded on the hull.

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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 5/21/2015 7:10:41 AM   
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RE: Building 1/700 - 1/350 ships - 5/21/2015 9:52:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mundy, so its here that you try to rebuild your fleet? Can you build me a new Fuso?

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