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Some new buildings - 3/7/2003 9:48:28 AM   
tracer


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Status: offline 		After adding in a big pack from Rocking Harry, there's currently over 100 new buildings that will be included in the next H2H patch. I'll also make the updated SHP's available to those with v7.1 who wish to use them.

Here's a screencap I grabbed while testing some out today: [URL=http://home.cfl.rr.com/lagoon/img/RR_11.gif]http://home.cfl.rr.com/lagoon/img/RR_11.gif[/URL]

Panzer Leo said the release is still a few weeks away, so I'll keep making and adding new buildings until then. Harry mentioned he has some special terrain icons he hopes to have finished by then also.

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- 3/7/2003 12:21:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		*Great* news. This sounds like something to be anxious for. ;)

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- 3/7/2003 12:52:52 PM   
tracer


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Status: offline 		I'll try to post some collages or examples this weekend. Here's one of the 'docks' you suggested: [IMG]http://home.cfl.rr.com/lagoon/img/dock2.gif[/IMG]

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- 3/7/2003 9:04:42 PM   
Redleg


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Status: offline 		I can see that dock sitting on the shoreline in Malta very nicely.
Thanks a lot! It looks great.

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- 3/8/2003 12:19:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		here´s some Ter90z4 stuff that I have finished already. It´s mostly externalized shapes from other SPWAW files that now can be used in a different way: shellholes (to workaround shellhole terrain limit), rubble (taken from the Icon.shp files, now for use with the Map Editors), barb wire ( again..taken from Icon.shp files. I added a horizontal version), foxholes (taken from Icon.shp files. Two additional variations added) and Trenchline graphics (in fact a darkened version of the gully tiles)

Drop the file into the SHP folder and just overwrite the old Ter90z4 file. Currently the Ter90 files are unused so you won´t loose anything!;)

In SPWAW map editor the Ter90 stuff is accessed with the tilde ´~´ key! with "SHIFT-!" then you can acces the single shapes and are to be put on map with a left mouse click right after. This also locks this shape for further use. (´z´key)

As said, just the z4 stuff is finished, so when you see the green blobs, hit the ´+´key for max zoom in and you can see the new graphics.;)

The Ter90 shapes will be placed (by SPWAW) in layer 6 and this sis the layer where trees are normally. So when you place a new Ter90 shape it will overwrite tree graphics when there is some in the hex. The tree attributes are preserved though.

Ter90 shapes can be placed beneath buildings, otherwise they are put ontop of most other graphics.

I plan to add a couple more new trees to this file, in particular alley trees and some that look more mediterranean than the ones we have now.

If you´re interested to see what you can do with the Ter90 shapes, have a look at this thread:

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33665&perpage=15&pagenumber=2

see my last posting and attached little scenario.

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Re: Some new buildings - 3/8/2003 12:23:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by tracer
[B]After adding in a big pack from Rocking Harry, there's currently over 100 new buildings that will be included in the next H2H patch. I'll also make the updated SHP's available to those with v7.1 who wish to use them.

Here's a screencap I grabbed while testing some out today: [URL=http://home.cfl.rr.com/lagoon/img/RR_11.gif]http://home.cfl.rr.com/lagoon/img/RR_11.gif[/URL]

Panzer Leo said the release is still a few weeks away, so I'll keep making and adding new buildings until then. Harry mentioned he has some special terrain icons he hopes to have finished by then also. [/B][/QUOTE]

great railroad stuff tracer! :cool: any progress with the roadblocks??

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- 3/8/2003 5:58:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Very cool, I look forward to using them.

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Re: Re: Some new buildings - 3/11/2003 6:37:16 AM   
tracer


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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by RockinHarry
[B]great railroad stuff tracer! :cool: any progress with the roadblocks?? [/B][/QUOTE]

You were right about the original roadblocks I made: too large, and since they were classified as stone buildings, too tall. I put these new ones in the wooden building category (height 5) and created smaller icons: [IMG]http://home.cfl.rr.com/lagoon/img/roadblocks2.jpg[/IMG]

After placing the structure, add some dragon's teeth. This way the defender gains some cover from the wooden building, and the attacker can use engineers to clear it. Then to complete the removal the attacker can collapse the structure either with engineers or by crashing an AFV into it.

If your scenario calls for a non-removable roadblock just add a very large amount of dragon's teeth.

If you can think of any immprovements please pass them along.

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- 3/11/2003 6:53:39 AM   
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- 3/11/2003 7:13:59 AM   
tracer


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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Redleg
[B]Double plus good, Tracer:D [/B][/QUOTE]

Good deal...I'll go ahead and create the other facings and zoom levels. But I'm gonna miss my original 'Sanford & Son' junkyard roadblock. :D
[IMG]http://home.cfl.rr.com/lagoon/img/RB_5.jpg[/IMG]

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- 3/12/2003 12:02:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by tracer
[B]Good deal...I'll go ahead and create the other facings and zoom levels. But I'm gonna miss my original 'Sanford & Son' junkyard roadblock. :D
[IMG]http://home.cfl.rr.com/lagoon/img/RB_5.jpg[/IMG] [/B][/QUOTE]

well...why not leaving it in then?? :D As said...when not using it as a roadblock, I would have good use for it as some kind of industrial storage area (or something like that).
We have enough space in the shape files to get all that stuff in and you even can inflate the files to include some 200 single shapes!:)

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- 3/13/2003 7:13:56 AM   
tracer


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Status: offline 		Good idea...I [I]will[/I] move it to the wooden building category though. No one would believe a 30 foot high 'pile of junk'. :D

Now that you mentioned it, how can the files be 'inflated'? While browsing thru the SPWW2 SHP's I noticed one had 204 (!) icons...is this limited to single'hex icons?

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- 3/13/2003 11:49:31 PM   
RockinHarry


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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by tracer
[B]Good idea...I [I]will[/I] move it to the wooden building category though. No one would believe a 30 foot high 'pile of junk'. :D

Now that you mentioned it, how can the files be 'inflated'? While browsing thru the SPWW2 SHP's I noticed one had 204 (!) icons...is this limited to single'hex icons? [/B][/QUOTE]

I´ve not yet tried with multihex buildings, but I managed to inflate shape files to 200 by simply adding shapes at the end of file by function with same name in shape edit: "Add shape to end of file" right most button in ShapeEdit IIRC.
Just try and let us know whether you hit any limit, adding shapes! :eek:
Could be that the actual limit would be 256 shapes in a file..maybe even 512. Need to try.

BTW: As mentioned earlier you also can create completely new shape files or use unused shape file numbers. For example Ter91 or Ter92. Off course you can´t directly access them within SPWAW editor, but I managed to use these new files from within Freds WaWMap and Shape Editor. Later in the game, SPWAW had no troubles referncing to the new files.

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- 3/14/2003 1:40:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Great work guys looks great.

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- 3/14/2003 7:54:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Understandable patience, guys! Looks very fine!

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- 3/14/2003 8:17:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		What's a rough guess as to when this stuff might be available to SPWAW scenario designers?

I have a good "Capture-the-General" raid in mind that needs a roadblock to make it work...

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- 3/15/2003 9:50:11 AM   
tracer


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Status: offline 		With a tailwind, the icon files could be finished comfortably within 2 weeks. Unfortunately, Panzer Leo has the uneviable task of playing jugde-and-jury in the never ending 'OOB wars'. Once he has those ironed out he'll make the final descision as to when to release the patch. IMO he's batted .1000 so far when its comes to releasing these things 'when they're ready', and I trust the same will be true with this one.

Look at it this way: we'll keep adding new icons till he tells us its time to 'show our cards'. ;)

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- 3/15/2003 10:02:55 AM   
tracer


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Status: offline 		I read in another thread that Panzer Leo may also want to include some scenarios featuring the new graphics, so it looks like the files will need to be available for designers before the final patch release. I'll send a progress report to Rockin Harry and see if we can't come up with a tight estimate on when the icons will be ready.

I had some beers after work, and I'm gonna regret this, but....April 1st. :eek:

Looks like I'll have a lot of Photoshop'ing and ShpEd'ing this weekend.

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- 3/16/2003 12:39:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by tracer
[B]I read in another thread that Panzer Leo may also want to include some scenarios featuring the new graphics, so it looks like the files will need to be available for designers before the final patch release. I'll send a progress report to Rockin Harry and see if we can't come up with a tight estimate on when the icons will be ready.

I had some beers after work, and I'm gonna regret this, but....April 1st. :eek:

Looks like I'll have a lot of Photoshop'ing and ShpEd'ing this weekend. [/B][/QUOTE]

the stuff that I´m currently working on probably is best used for WW1 scenarios, thus I started working on one that I´ll send to Panzer Leo for H2H patch release.
Working on shapes for Ter90 is now my primary task and I think I should have the stuff finished just in time (next1-2 weeks).:)

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- 3/16/2003 4:15:16 AM   
tracer


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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by RockinHarry
[B]the stuff that I´m currently working on probably is best used for WW1 scenarios, thus I started working on one that I´ll send to Panzer Leo for H2H patch release.
Working on shapes for Ter90 is now my primary task and I think I should have the stuff finished just in time (next1-2 weeks).:) [/B][/QUOTE]

Sounds great Harry; I just sent you a .zip with some icons for the Ter90 file. They're mostly 'scenario-specific' icons that designers could find useful, here's an example: [IMG]http://home.cfl.rr.com/lagoon/img/air5_z4.jpg[/IMG]

By putting them in the Ter90 file they won't appear as structures; one possible use is placing them on victory hexes as 'objectives'.

If this sparks any ideas (from anybody!) for other icons, please pass them along.

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- 3/18/2003 7:50:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		I finished a PDF file showing what is yet finished and what can be done with the Ter90 shapes. Unfortunately it´s too large to be attached to this posting. Here´s a link instead that needs to be "right clicked" and "save target as"!

[URL=http://geocities.com/rockinharry/SPWAW/TER90-File-Content.zip]Ter90 PDF file link[/URL]

[COLOR=red]Remember! Right mouse button click, then "save target" as! A single left mouse button click on link does NOT work![/COLOR]

Feedback and ideas highly welcome!:)

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