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Disappearing Amphibious HQ & Other Strange Stuff - 6/1/2015 10:33:54 PM

Griefhead

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I have upgraded to 1.00.37 and started a campaign as Allied. On T8 my Italian mainland invasion was repulsed by the
Axis player and the two units routed back to Sicily. At the same time the Amphibious HQ just disappeared. It's not
listed as a destroyed unit and I don't think that the troop ships or men in the HQ were added to the killed
numbers. However I now have only 5 Amphibious HQ. Where oh where did my HQ go?

Secondly, I had prepared 3 invasion groups in England to land in France. One of them transported to England on T1
and two transported on T2. The first one would have been able to invade T10 and the other two would have been able
to invade T11. I moved them around to larger ports hoping that all of them would have been able to invade T10.
However of the three groups I lost invasion points by moving them. The groups now read 43/43/43 invasion points
in Liverpool, 44/24/14 points in Southampton, and 53/33/33 points in Portsmouth. Are you supposed to lose
invasion points if you move your units around?

The game is now saved on the server as Allied move T10.

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RE: Disappearing Amphibious HQ & Other Strange Stuff - 6/2/2015 12:35:14 AM

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Your amphib HQ probably took over 99 Damage and will show up in 8 turns back in Ireland or off of Liverpool. This would also tie into the obvious Axis pounding of your beach head and naval assets. The notification about your amphib HQ MAY be in the log file.

I have never lost points from moving amphib invasions around, but it has been awhile since I have done that so things may have changed.

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RE: Disappearing Amphibious HQ & Other Strange Stuff - 6/2/2015 7:24:52 AM

JamesM

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I have noticed the same thing when I left an amphibious HQ's too long on station helping bombard fortified hexes.

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RE: Disappearing Amphibious HQ & Other Strange Stuff - 6/2/2015 1:23:44 PM

Griefhead

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Carlkay is correct about the disappearing amphib HQ. I don't have any explanation for the drop in invasion points. I'm going to attempt to repeat my moves against the AI and see what happens. Thanks Carlkay.

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RE: Disappearing Amphibious HQ & Other Strange Stuff - 6/2/2015 4:09:56 PM

Griefhead

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I suppose I messed up somehow because I can't get it to repeat. In my trials, you don't lose points for switching harbors with your invasion groups.

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RE: Disappearing Amphibious HQ & Other Strange Stuff - 6/2/2015 4:16:29 PM

Joel Billings

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As others noted, the amphib HQ probably reached 99 damage and was removed for repairs.

If you are not in a port during the logistics phase, you will lose amphib points. So a transfer from Med to England or vice versa loses you amphib points:

16.6.3. Amphibious Preparation

APPs will be set to zero whenever a unit completes
an amphibious invasion or if the unit spends a logistics
phase not in a permanent port hex or not stacked with
an Amphibious HQ (moving from port to port will not
cause the loss of prep points). Note that as long as a unit
remains in a port in each logistics phase, it won�t lose
prep points. It checks only during the logistics phase that
it is in a port, and if not, that�s when it would lose prep
points. This is intentional. So prepping units can move
from one port to another as long as they end the turn
in a port with a prepping Amphibious HQ.

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RE: Disappearing Amphibious HQ & Other Strange Stuff - 6/2/2015 5:31:26 PM

Griefhead

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Thanks Joel. The mystery is solved to me.
BTW, since most people think the game favors the Axis; why not do away with the opening VP loss for the Allied.

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