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Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/3/2015 3:32:30 PM   
godochaos

 

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Status: offline 		I generally have a rule that I don't due my turn on Friday night when i'm getting my drink on, but my PBEM opponent and I have just been absolutely amazing at maintaining a furious pace of turns and I violated my rule in my zeal to churn out turns asap

So its early war(allies) and oh my precious I have saved up some awesome Lightnings and i'm ready to convert a squadron to Lightnings and I do. Huzzah!

The next day I look and the air unit I converted to Lightnings is gray restricted.... FUGGGGGGGGGG
hey no problem I can fix this! I have 24 P-26A's saved up in the pool i will just convert the squadron to P-26a and the Lightnings will go back in the pool- nope can't do it

I realize I squandered a bunch of Lightnings. I recently got swept at PM and lost 8 aircraft to his ZERO losses(no pun intended), those lightnings would have been really wonderful there!

Tell me your favorite drunken mistake move, come on there has to be someone out there as crazy as me who made the mistake of playing WitPAE drunk!
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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/3/2015 4:02:12 PM   
Feltan


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Status: offline 		At the risk of invoking a former US President's tag line, it all depends on what you mean by being "drunk."

Falling down sloppy drunk?  No way .... you can't play WITP-AE in any condition like that.  If you are wasted away in Margaretville you should play Monopoly with a hot chick; the consequences for going bankrupt well known by both participants.

However, if you are hinting at a mental state more like a Pink Floyd "Comfortably Numb" .... well, I think you could argue that is the condition when you SHOULD play WITP-AE.  Assuming you know the game well, there is a certain Zen characteristic to the rhythm of turns; there is holistic top-level perspective that needs to be maintained.  As I often poke my Allied PBEM partner ... there exists a mysticism about a well executed KB strike and rapid retreat into the fog-of-war hinterlands.

Sinking an enemy carrier, any carrier, deserved a good shot or two of Scotch.  Relish and savor the moment ... it doesn't get any better.

Contemplating the next three months of operations is best done with wine glass and a good bottle of Chardonnay next to the computer.

I am sure there are some avid WITP-AE players who would heartily disagree, but this game and moderate buzz from some too expensive brand of booze go hand-in-hand.

godchaos, your issues is one of quality and quantity .... leave the gallon jugs of Mad Dog 20/20 to 3rd person shooter players ... this game deserves a bit more respect!

Regards,
Feltan

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/3/2015 5:00:26 PM   
godochaos

 

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Status: offline 		I think I might have been drinking Miller Lite, I'm ashamed to say it.

I just need to move to a higher quality beer and then I won't ruin the war

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/3/2015 6:29:41 PM   
Lokasenna


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quote:

ORIGINAL: godochaos

I think I might have been drinking Miller Lite, I'm ashamed to say it.

I just need to move to a higher quality beer and then I won't ruin the war


As long as you were playing Beer Wizard (or Wizard Sticks? I can't remember what it's called), it's acceptable.

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/3/2015 6:36:47 PM   
HansBolter


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Status: offline 		I can't even consider imbibing while wargaming. Totally lose focus.

I get my attitude adjustment and total focus from a different category of mind alteration.....all one need do is consider that I was a teen in the '70s to get the drift.

My old wargame buddies had a name for games we played while drinking:

"Beer and Pretzels" games.

Risk probably leads this category.

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/3/2015 7:36:19 PM   
warspite1


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quote:

ORIGINAL: godochaos

I generally have a rule that I don't due my turn on Friday night when i'm getting my drink on, but my PBEM opponent and I have just been absolutely amazing at maintaining a furious pace of turns and I violated my rule in my zeal to churn out turns asap

So its early war(allies) and oh my precious I have saved up some awesome Lightnings and i'm ready to convert a squadron to Lightnings and I do. Huzzah!

The next day I look and the air unit I converted to Lightnings is gray restricted.... FUGGGGGGGGGG
hey no problem I can fix this! I have 24 P-26A's saved up in the pool i will just convert the squadron to P-26a and the Lightnings will go back in the pool- nope can't do it

I realize I squandered a bunch of Lightnings. I recently got swept at PM and lost 8 aircraft to his ZERO losses(no pun intended), those lightnings would have been really wonderful there!

Tell me your favorite drunken mistake move, come on there has to be someone out there as crazy as me who made the mistake of playing WitPAE drunk!
warspite1

I cannot play any game - unless its a true beer and crisps type game - while drinking alcohol.

The sad fact is I am crap at games anyway - without making things worse by being under the influence.

I see it as - if I play games sober I am like the German Army. I will lose eventually even if I manage to play decently for a time.

If I drink I am like the French Army 1940.




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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/3/2015 8:01:06 PM   
nashvillen


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Status: offline 		The hardest drink I do is Diet Dr. Pepper. So, I can't really blame any bad moves on being under the achifluence of ichihol. (Just say it out loud and think about it).

Although, I have seen some great play by others in traditional map and card board counters after the consumption of a few adult beverages.

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/3/2015 8:15:44 PM   
godochaos

 

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Status: offline 		It is possible that Friday nite that I might have been enjoying some of natures rich bounty also, ummm but I can't remember

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/3/2015 9:38:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: godochaos

It is possible that Friday nite that I might have been enjoying some of natures rich bounty also, ummm but I can't remember


The Devil's Lettuce?

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/3/2015 9:39:25 PM   
Bullwinkle58


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Status: offline 		Can't play AE while drinking. The buttons are too small.

I load up Kerbal Space Program and see how many ways I can kill Jebidiah.



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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/4/2015 6:29:09 AM   
JocMeister

 

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Status: offline 		Hah, I always do my turns on Friday and Saturday while in various degrees of intoxication!

Probably made a lot of stupid mistakes but who cares? As long as you enjoy yourself and have fun.

Havn´t killed poor Jeb in a couple of weeks now. Perhaps its time to do so!

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/4/2015 10:11:06 AM   
Skygge


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Status: offline 		If some important Naval encounter is possible, or I know some important attack will go in, I have a large shoot of
Fernet Branca ready.
Either to celebrate succes or to wash down the failure.

Then there are the Friday or Saturday night when you get home from whatever and think yourself capable of doing
a turn, which can turn out to be another wrong evaluation made that day.




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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/4/2015 11:47:10 AM   
chemkid

 

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/4/2015 9:28:22 PM   
Rio Bravo


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Status: offline 		I think I manage things fairly well with four or five scotch on the rocks over a couple hours or longer.

Now then, weed! Well, I instantly find myself getting all these fetishes like, falling in love with the DD named Trout because I enjoy trout fishing or spacing out for hours over Va'vu dreaming about grass skirts tempting me to give up working for a living and WITPAE for the sun, waves, sand, and coconut massages.

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/4/2015 10:09:26 PM   
jmalter

 

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Status: offline 		Playing against the AI, one always has the option of rolling back the turn, in the event of severe impairment. Like when I recently 'forgot' to set my fine CA group to follow the lead CV TF as it withdrew, & they were left to remain on station in Betty-infested waters. Major oops, I took a mulligan on that turn.

But I've had many fine hours of escapist pleasure, messing about w/ AE, multiple refills of Chardonnay box-wine over soda&ice, music of choice drowning out the AE soundtrack. Lately it's been Miles Davis, but it could as well be Mozart or Psych Furs that aid my next clickfest thru the USArmy pilot assignments.

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/4/2015 10:22:32 PM   
Encircled


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Status: offline 		Good job I haven't a turn in my in box, as I'm three sheets to the wind tonight!

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/5/2015 4:52:00 AM   
sanch

 

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Status: offline 		Well I just sank 2, maybe 3 Allied CV's, so I had to have a glass of JD on the rocks. Great stuff! (Wasp (maybe), Lex and Hermes).

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/5/2015 9:37:56 AM   
obvert


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Status: offline 		Ahh, this is a topic I can relate too!

Not sure I've screwed the pooch because of drinking while playing AE, but there have definitely been times when I got home after a good several at the pub and fallen asleep on the couch with the unfinished turn still open! (Usually when the wife's out of town).

As for normal practice, I'll most often pour a good scotch or bourbon. One or two loosens things up and makes me remember to try things that are fun because this is a game! I'll report back if this causes serious problems in the future.

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/5/2015 9:49:23 AM   
Barb


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Status: offline 		Glass or two of some fine wine to WITPAE couldnt hurt... But I wouldnt play WITPAE with a whole bottle.

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/5/2015 10:04:16 AM   
Rafid

 

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Status: offline 		This section from another thread instantly came to my mind

quote:

ORIGINAL: Symon

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
I blame drunkenness at Dev HQ.

And you would be right Don Bowen likes single malt and so do I. I sent him the best bottle of Scotlands finest I could find when we were working with that development nonsense.
Oh, yeah; we are serious drunks. And we miss some things, out of the thousand and one things we had to contend with. I've seen that one. It's a minor blivet on a big plate. If you really want it fixed, we can do. But be very careful about how we do it.

Ciao. JWE


Sounds to me, as you are playing the game the way it was meant to be played.

Also if JWE stops by, please change back to your old avatar - it seems so much more appropriate for this thread.

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/5/2015 11:10:54 AM   
LargeSlowTarget


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Status: offline 		I may play even worse when I'm sober .


The real problem for me is drowsiness - due to RL contraints I often have to play late at night in order to squeeze out a PBEM turn - and it is hard to concentrate at 2am! So in case my opponent is wondering why the timestamp of the combat replay file and of the save file differ by 8 hours - that's not a sign of thorough planning!





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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/5/2015 1:07:26 PM   
Lecivius


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Status: offline 		I'm always in a state of massive confusion. Booze just gives me an excuse

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/5/2015 1:39:22 PM   
chemkid

 

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/5/2015 4:41:02 PM   
obvert


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget

I may play even worse when I'm sober .


The real problem for me is drowsiness - due to RL contraints I often have to play late at night in order to squeeze out a PBEM turn - and it is hard to concentrate at 2am! So in case my opponent is wondering why the timestamp of the combat replay file and of the save file differ by 8 hours - that's not a sign of thorough planning!




Shhhhhhhhh! Don't reveal the secret!

Sometimes I rerun the turn near the end of my work to see the replay one last time, then I finish the turn, so the timestamp is like a 10 minute difference even though I've spent 3 hours on the turn. Other times I also fall asleep (after drinks) and it's 8 hours when I spent 20 minutes on the game.

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/6/2015 6:45:49 AM   
rustysi


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Feltan

At the risk of invoking a former US President's tag line, it all depends on what you mean by being "drunk."

Falling down sloppy drunk?  No way .... you can't play WITP-AE in any condition like that.  If you are wasted away in Margaretville you should play Monopoly with a hot chick; the consequences for going bankrupt well known by both participants.

However, if you are hinting at a mental state more like a Pink Floyd "Comfortably Numb" .... well, I think you could argue that is the condition when you SHOULD play WITP-AE.  Assuming you know the game well, there is a certain Zen characteristic to the rhythm of turns; there is holistic top-level perspective that needs to be maintained.  As I often poke my Allied PBEM partner ... there exists a mysticism about a well executed KB strike and rapid retreat into the fog-of-war hinterlands.

Sinking an enemy carrier, any carrier, deserved a good shot or two of Scotch.  Relish and savor the moment ... it doesn't get any better.

Contemplating the next three months of operations is best done with wine glass and a good bottle of Chardonnay next to the computer.

I am sure there are some avid WITP-AE players who would heartily disagree, but this game and moderate buzz from some too expensive brand of booze go hand-in-hand.

godchaos, your issues is one of quality and quantity .... leave the gallon jugs of Mad Dog 20/20 to 3rd person shooter players ... this game deserves a bit more respect!

Regards,
Feltan


Well said!!!


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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/6/2015 12:01:58 PM   
nardiajn

 

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Status: offline 		good thread !!!
I played my turn last night after a bottle of vino :)

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/6/2015 2:03:19 PM   
LargeSlowTarget


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Status: offline 		The theory of Godochaos is discredited. I have tested doing a turn without having a drink - and promptly lost Yamashiro and two DDs to a cruiser SAG. I should have known better! Granted, the same result may have occurred with a drink - but such losses hurt less when the brain is numb...

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/6/2015 2:46:20 PM   
stormdeth


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Status: offline 		This game is challenging enough for me sober, tipsy or drunk....no way for me.

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/6/2015 5:23:42 PM   
btd64


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Status: offline 		I started a PBEM last december after I suffered a major concussion at work. I made moves I didn't remember and made quite a few mistakes. Still recovering from the game mistakes and happy to say some high quality meds are finally helping with the memory.....GP

But I do sit down with a glass of some fine scotch on the rocks and do my turns. On days off that is ....GP

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RE: Do not play WitPAE while drunk! - 6/6/2015 7:53:54 PM   
rustysi


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quote:

But I do sit down with a glass of some fine scotch on the rocks


I prefer mine neat.

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