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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/3/2015 4:44:17 PM

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You say �Using that, in early 1944, I have few resources left in the Philippines.� So here I am confused. Do the resource centers keep producing or do they stop producing when you capture the base? If they are producing, are you just hauling them off faster than they are being produced? If they do not produce, is there a pile of resources there when you capture the base not shown on the mouse-over and that is what you have to haul?

For example, on Mindanao (subject to damage sustained) there are 40 resource centres and 20 LI factories. This produces 800 resources points per day of which 300 are used in LI to produce 20 supplies. This gives a net 500 resource points per day or about 180,000 per year.

Suppose I send a convoy with 30,000 supply out to Babeldoab. Then, rather than coming straight back, it can divert to Butuan where it can load up with 30,000 of these resources and take them back to Japan. This minimises burning fuel with an empty cargo hold. By consistently doing this I find most of the resources from the Philippines are sent home with no need to set-up regular convoys.

Resources accumulate on Sumatra, Java and Borneo because there is little need to send supply or troops there and the ports are busy with shipping oil/fuel home. However, the resources from the local area and the Philippines are easily enough for the Japanese industry.

Until the initial port improvements are complete, there won't be enough resources sent home but there are ample stockpiles to last this out. It took until August 1st 1942 for me to expand Fusan port to 8 but I probably didn't send as many engineers there as I could and I think there may be more engineers in scenario 2 than the scenario I played.

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/3/2015 11:06:50 PM

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OK, the numbers are starting to fall into place.

These are newbie questions and I should have paid more attention to this stuff during my sand-boxing but I was too busy learning how to move the military around (and having more fun, uhhum, *cough, cough* not that this isn't fun).

Thank you for your patience.

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Rio Bravo's AAR - "The War College"
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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/7/2015 6:26:46 AM

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Turn two is away so I will catch-up here and then go study cargo some more.

Fusan it is. I have sent all of the engineers in Korea and a few others there and a lot of tankers are headed there as Fusan set as their home port. I will send-in some more garrison soon.

obvert, I agree with no HI or LI expansion in the DEA and will study the areas you suggested. Also agree with infrastructure building and will look closely at that also.

Lowpe, I glanced at Captain Cruft's AAR and will try to finish it before Rio sends back the turn. A word about it.

When I first got this game besides playing with all of the little buttons, I started reading AARs and thinking how I wanted to play my game. Quixote's was about the third one and I told Rio one evening that the only true way for Japan to win this game was with Auto-Victory. I was looking forward to the computer flashing its screen, making bell sounds and announcing, �We have a winner here folks!� Quixote is extremely good but I thought that if I focused, studied hard and ate my spinach I could do that too. Then, while reading other AARs that were close to AV I saw how the poor Allied player was just reacting to prevent it and it did not look like fun. Then I read Mr. Kane vs. GJ and thought to myself, that is the way I want Japan to win.

Mr. Kane used a lot of air, Capt. Cruft is using a lot of air and the reason I am going to try to save and maximize my cargo is because, if you will pardon the technical language, I want a gazillion planes. I also want a lot of other stuff but more on that as we progress.

The Andamans, yes. Thank you for reminding me.

I hope CL Nagara is not one of the cruisers of which you are talking. That was the first ship I lost. Speaking of ships lost and Tracker. Tracker is set-up and regions imported and seems to be working. I know I should check the Tracker thread but I will throw it out hoping for a quick answer, no sunk ships are showing in Tracker. ??

I have three more major jobs to research and do after cargo. Shipping, pilot training, and leaders. For some reason I am just not looking forward to shipping but it must be done.

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Rio Bravo's AAR - "The War College"
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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/14/2015 10:05:27 AM

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Dec 8, 1941, Turn Two

A fairly uneventful turn.

Another big difference between playing the AI vs. PBEM. Vs the AI, the fourteen ship SCTF at Lubang (78,78, SW Luzon) usually has a turkey shot. This time nothing and Rio managed to sneak a lot of stuff into the Sulu Sea, (screen shot). I suspect it is because he used a lot of small TFs whereas the AI sends two or three large TFs. My landings at San Fernando usually go a lot better but we did not take it this time. A few more troops two days out so will defend until they land. I also have ships on the way to hex 81,76, the coastal hex just east of Cabanatuan. I took Vigan and Laoag the first turn with paras and moved some air to Vigan this turn.

It appears that Rio is bugging-out all over the map. I sank one xAKL in a TF coming out of Hong Kong full of troops and now I suspect that the empty Amphibious TF that the KB sank last turn south of Singers was going in to pick-up the troops there. This is good news and bad news. I will be able to take what I want on the cheep but when he returns, he will return LARGE. This is one result of playing without Auto-Victory as it gives him the luxury of time to form his assault his way. I think this will give us a more interesting end-game, hopefully not devastating for me. I think that I will instead need two gazillion fighters though.

I captured Kota Bharu and will put some fighters and Betties there next turn even though they probably won't fly for awhile due to runway damage. Some engineers there and more on the way. I want the Betties there to see if I can pick-off some shipping in the Straits of Malacca. I usually wait another day before sending the troops into Mersing but there appears to be no Force Z and not much Allied air so in they go next turn.

Rio managed to catch and sink my xAKL that the Boise mangled last turn, this time with the CA Houston. I have ships heading to Muri and Brunei and ships loading for Singawang and Palembang.

There is a lot of movement in China as well. A lot of arrows pointing west and north-west. I will give my China strategy in a few more days as I want to see a bit more of what is happening.

Just a note, I read Captain Cruft's AAR. Interesting concept and execution. Too bad it had to end prematurely,
I really enjoy reading AARs, just wish I had more time to do so. Hopefully after I get all of this production stuff dealt with I can get back to them more.

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El Lobo (J) vs Rio Bravo (A)
Rio Bravo's AAR - "The War College"
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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/14/2015 10:40:44 AM

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Production

This turn (2) I turned-off all of the planes, engines and R&D factories that I am not going to use immediately and expanded what I could and increased the supply required for each production base. Starting on turn three, supply was sufficient enough to increase all my factories to where I wanted.

Air Frames producing:

Fighters
A6M2 Zero
Ki-43-Ic Oscar

L. Bombers
G4M1 Betty
Ki-21-IIa Sally
Ki-48-Ib Lily
Ki-51 Sonia
Ki-49-Ia Helen

Float
E13A1 Jake

Recon
Ki-46-II Dinah

Patrol
H6K4 Mavis

TB
B5N2 Kate

Transport
Ki-57-I Topsy

DB
D3A1 Val

R&D Air:

Fighters
A6M2-N Rufe
A6M3 Zero
A6M5 Zero
A6M5d-S Zero
A7M2 Sam
A7M3-J Sam
J2M2 Jack
J2M5 Jack
J7W1 Shinden
N1K1-J George
N1K2-J George
Ki-43-IIb Oscar
Ki-44 Tojo
Ki-44-IIa Tojo
Ki-61-Ia Tony
Ki-61-Ic Tony
Ki-83
Ki-84a Frank
Ki-84b Frank
Ki-93-Ia
Ki-94-II
Ki-102a Randy
Ki-201 Karyu

Fighter-Bombers
Ki-45 KAIa Nick
Ki-45 KAIb Nick
Ki-102b Randy

Night Fighter
J1N1-S Irving

Level Bombers
G4M2 Betty
G4M2a Betty
G4M3a Betty
Ki-49-IIa Helen
Ki-67-Ia Peggy
Ki-67-Ib Peggy
P1Y1 Frances
P1Y2 Frances
Kikka

Recon
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah
D4Y1-C Judy

Patrol
H6K2-L Mavis
H8K1 Emily

TB
B6N1 Jill
B6N2 Jill
M6A1 Seiran

Transport
G4M1-L Betty
L2D2 Tabby
H8K2-L Emily
Ki-49-II KAI Helen
H6K2-L Mavis

Dive Bomb
D4Y1 Judy
D4Y2 Judy
E16A1 Paul

I still need to assign these A/C to a factory for R&D:

B6N2a Jill
D3A2 Val
E13A1b Jake
H6K5 Mavis
J1N1-Sa Irving
J2M3 Jack
Ki-43-IIa Oscar
Ki-44-IIb Tojo
Ki-44-IIc Tojo
Ki-46-III Dinah
Ki-49-IIb Helen
Ki-61-Ib Tony
Ki-84r Frank
N1K5-J George

When you look at it this way, that is a lot of lists, it looks like a lot of planes.

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/14/2015 10:42:15 AM

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Here is part of the spreadsheet that I did for resources, L.I. and H.I. for areas that want to capture, China not included.

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/14/2015 10:43:47 AM

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Here is the complete spreadsheet of oil, refineries and H.I. in the same areas, China not included. Could someone please take a quick look at these numbers to see if my math is correct? I am still a little confused but getting there I hope. Thanks.

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/20/2015 12:00:29 AM

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Dec 9, 1941, Turn Three

For the time being I have left my subs on computer control as I am not comfortable as how to use them yet and besides, I could not do much better than this.

ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 184,99

Japanese Ships
SS I-2

Allied Ships
BB Pennsylvania, Torpedo hits 1
DD Hull
DD Helm

But she paid the price.

Sub attack near Pearl Harbor at 184,99

Japanese Ships
SS I-2, hits 2

Sub attack near Lahaina at 185,104

Japanese Ships
SS I-4

Allied Ships
AO Neosho, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
DD Dale

The first TF landed at Mersing but it appears that Rio has bugged again as there are no enemy troops to greet us.

The second wave landed at San Fernando so we will DA next turn.

I have started expanding key ports and forts at the H.I. I am also trying to catch-up and get ahead of my HQ and aviation support requirements.

Production

I doubled the L.I. at Fusan as previously discussed and also to help it become a bigger cargo sink. There are twelve tankers there with a few more on the way. One of them is loading, very slowly. I have placed the a/c I want to R&D in factories.

Change of plans.

Some background. One day well over a year ago Rio was showing me his cool new computer war game and encouraged me to read some of the stuff called AARs on the game's website. He was reading Bullwinkle58 (A) vs. 1EyedJacks (J) where Bullwinkle was able to establish a Fortress Palembang. I read it also, but knowing very little about the game, a lot of stuff meant very little to me and I practically wore-out my google maps looking-up all these strange names and where they were.

Fast forward. Three days ago I was getting tired of doing production stuff and decided I needed a break so I started reading obvert's �The Elephant Vanishes.� About half-way down page four, this sinking feeling came over me. Rio knows the value of Palembang and I could be in the same situation as obvert. So a nervous two days and I get back the turn and see the screen-shot below. Four APDs at Pbang. Bringing troops in or taking troops out? My Pbang invasion TF is still loading at Shanghai.

Fortunately I am not in the same predicament as obvert was at the time as I have an intact four CV TF sitting eleven hexes from Pbang and in the same hex are four amphibious TF ready to land at Mersing. I also have the Ryujo newly loaded with zeros sitting four hexes north of Muri with two amphibious TFs ready to go in next turn.

So next turn I am sending the six DMSs sitting at Mersing into PBang and TF 11 which is four CLs and three DDs will sit at hex 49,90, the channel into Pbang, to try to block any further entrance or egress. I am shifting the CV TF down a bit to provide air cover and TF 5 with its two BBs some CLs and DDs will drop down a little further to provide protection from any Allied SCTFs in the area. I will diverted two of the amphibious TF from the Mersing invasion with about 250 AV to escorted by TF 11 into Pbang the turn after next depending on what the DMSs find. I will bring the Ryujo group over and try to take Singkawang with it.

Hopefully if he is moving in he does not have too much there yet. I think that I should have focused more on this earlier anyway, my inexperience showing. Any other key areas that I am over-looking?

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/20/2015 1:13:42 AM

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There's no way the Allies have APDs at Palembang on Dec 9th. If the Allies have any right now, they are USN ones way on the other side of the Pacific. I really don't think fortress Palembang is feasible if you take Singapore early like you are doing now. Has any Allied player pulled off a successful fortress Palembang after a successful Japanese landing at Mersing? I would only be concerned about Palembang in a game where the Japanese put Singapore and the DEI on a lower priority.

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/20/2015 6:41:43 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sangeli

There's no way the Allies have APDs at Palembang on Dec 9th. If the Allies have any right now, they are USN ones way on the other side of the Pacific. I really don't think fortress Palembang is feasible if you take Singapore early like you are doing now. Has any Allied player pulled off a successful fortress Palembang after a successful Japanese landing at Mersing? I would only be concerned about Palembang in a game where the Japanese put Singapore and the DEI on a lower priority.

Thank you for your input Sangeli.

I am very ignorant concerning what the Allies have so your insight is valuable to me. I am just going by the mouse-over. What do you think they are?

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/20/2015 3:52:30 PM

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The Dutch start the game with a four destroyer TF nearby. It is probably those ships.

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/23/2015 9:06:41 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Amoral

The Dutch start the game with a four destroyer TF nearby. It is probably those ships.

Now you tell me! * laughing *

Yes DDs, and they were and some mean ones too.

Dec 10, 1941, Turn Four

Day Time Surface Combat, near Palembang at 48,91, Range 15,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DMS W-1, Shell hits 2
DMS W-5, Shell hits 3
DMS W-6, Shell hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage (sunk later)
DMS W-9, Shell hits 5, heavy fires (probably won't make it)
DMS W-10, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DMS W-11, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage (probably won't make it)

Allied Ships
DD Vampire, Shell hits 1
DD Vendetta, Shell hits 1
AM Ballarat, Shell hits 17, and is sunk
AM Toowoomba, Shell hits 12, and is sunk

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/23/2015 9:28:11 AM

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Dec 10, 1941, Turn Four

My computer controlled subs strike again.

Submarine attack near Eureka at 214,67

Japanese Ships
SS I-26

Allied Ships
xAKL Susana, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

xAKL Susana is sighted by SS I-26
SS I-26 launches 4 torpedoes at xAKL Susana

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And later.

ASW attack near Eureka at 214,67

Japanese Ships
SS I-26

Allied Ships
DD Kane

SS I-26 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Kane

I have to keep track of this ballsy commander.

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My SCTFs finally caught some of his fleeing TFs. I like these results.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Iba at 75,73, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Natsugumo
DD Minegumo
DD Asagumo

Allied Ships
xAKL Yat Shing, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
175 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 8 (6 destroyed, 2 disabled)

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Iba at 75,73, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Natsugumo
DD Minegumo
DD Asagumo

Allied Ships
xAK Hinsang, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Munlock, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
1185 casualties reported
Squads: 46 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 44 destroyed, 38 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 12 (12 destroyed, 0 disabled)

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We took Mersing unopposed. I'm not sure what Rio's strategy is here but it will allow me to get to Singers a day earlier. Nest turn I will send three armored regiments to the east to cut-off any further troops coming down and start moving to Johore Bahru.

The only air action worth noting.

Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet

Like most everything else, it seems that his air has bugged-out also.

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A little bit of revenge.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
B5N2 Kate x 9
D3A1 Val x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Vendetta, Bomb hits 1, on fire
ML No. 311
DD Vampire
ML No. 310

And a bit more.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
HDML 1063, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
HDML 1062, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
ML No. 310, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
ML No. 311, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

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Another Gold Star to the Devs.

When I was doing all my sand-boxing I had all my Preferences set to minimum so I could speed through the replays, so, I had never heard Tokyo Rose before although I had read about her in other AARs. She came on after the last attack and of course according to her I sunk half of the US Navy. Cracked me up.

If the Devs had not included her in the game I doubt anyone would have given it a second thought. But here it is again, a nice little attention to detail.

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We took San Fernando this turn. Again I like the results.

Ground combat at San Fernando (80,74)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 19802 troops, 172 guns, 185 vehicles, Assault Value = 586

Defending force 2869 troops, 60 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 96

Japanese adjusted assault: 495

Allied adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 165 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE San Fernando !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
106 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1378 casualties reported
Squads: 100 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 23 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 32 (32 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Production

I started converting some of my ships but it is a tedious process so will take awhile. Also started replacing all of my Glens with Jakes.

Turn five is off.

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Rio Bravo's AAR - "The War College"
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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/24/2015 2:56:19 PM

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Dec 11, 1941, Turn Five

A couple of days ago I was complaining because TF 14 near Lubang (78,78), did not get its usual turkey-shoot. Well they have made-up for it.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Balabac at 71,82, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Ashigara
CL Natori
CL Kuma
DD Yamagumo
DD Satsuki
DD Minazuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Nagatsuki
DD Asakaze

Allied Ships
xAK Fatshan, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
xAK Hanyang, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
948 casualties reported
Squads: 93 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 19 (19 destroyed, 0 disabled)

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Balabac at 71,82, Range 7,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Ashigara
CL Natori
CL Kuma
DD Yamagumo
DD Satsuki
DD Minazuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Nagatsuki
DD Asakaze

Allied Ships
xAK Bennevis, Shell hits 36, and is sunk
xAK Ming Sang, Shell hits 15, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
795 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 61 destroyed, 65 disabled
Engineers: 13 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 24 (17 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Balabac at 71,82, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Ashigara
CL Natori
CL Kuma
DD Yamagumo
DD Satsuki
DD Minazuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Nagatsuki
DD Asakaze

Allied Ships
xAK Nanning, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Haraldsvang, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
xAK Hai Lee, Shell hits 14, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
1170 casualties reported
Squads: 51 destroyed, 53 disabled
Non Combat: 66 destroyed, 58 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 13 (11 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 16 (14 destroyed, 2 disabled)

They are out of toorps and are on their way to San Fernando to re-arm and then they will head to Davao for some invasion support.

Rio stated in an email that between yesterday and today I had sunk all of his TFs evacuating Hong Kong.

I had debated weather or not to send the DMSs hit by the two mean DDs at Pbang yesterday to Mersing where I have some naval support or to just leave them at Pbang. Since I did not know at the time what was at Pbang or how long it would take to capture it, I decided to send them to Mersing, and walked them right into this.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Palembang at 49,90, Range 7,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DMS W-1, Shell hits 3, on fire
DMS W-5, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DMS W-9, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
DMS W-10, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
DMS W-11, Shell hits 5, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Vampire, Shell hits 1

I am going to leave my subs on computer control the rest of the game.

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Sub attack near Pearl Harbor at 189,89

Japanese Ships
SS I-2

Allied Ships
CL Helena, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
DMS Zane
DD MacDonough
DD Dewey
DD Farragut

I am bombing and sweeping all over Malaya and P.I. and this is about all the air combat there was.

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Morning Air attack on Iba , at 78,75

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 5 destroyed

CAP engaged:
Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)

We landed at Pbang with a little cost.

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Invasion Support action off Palembang (48,91)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

19 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
AK Hirokawa Maru, Shell hits 6
AK Tosan Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Shinonome
DD Shirakumo

75mm CD Gun Battery engaging AK Hirokawa Maru at 7,000 yards
75mm CD Gun battery firing at AK Tosan Maru

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Pre-Invasion action off Palembang (48,91) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

23 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
DD Murakumo, Shell hits 1
xAK Kyokko Maru
DD Asagiri

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Here is what we found. I may have done a little over-kill here if there was such a thing in war.

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 756 troops, 6 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 40

Defending force 11329 troops, 92 guns, 129 vehicles, Assault Value = 378

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

What he left at Hong Kong did not do well.

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Ground combat at Hong Kong (77,61)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 29095 troops, 408 guns, 218 vehicles, Assault Value = 896

Defending force 3022 troops, 94 guns, 45 vehicles, Assault Value = 52

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 763

Allied adjusted defense: 97

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Hong Kong !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
219 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
3531 casualties reported
Squads: 70 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 315 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 21 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 131 (131 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 60 (60 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

We had our first battle in China today, or the second if you count Hong Kong. I will detail this more when I discuss my China strategy. By looking at this one battle, some of you know it already.

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Ground combat at 89,40 (near Taiyuan)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28070 troops, 281 guns, 101 vehicles, Assault Value = 944

Defending force 4889 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 128

Japanese adjusted assault: 701

Allied adjusted defense: 64

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
607 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 50 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1770 casualties reported
Squads: 132 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 106 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 21 (21 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2

I will DA with this tomorrow but have two more TFs with about eighty more AV landing there tomorrow also.

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Ground combat at Singkawang (56,88)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 781 troops, 5 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 29

Defending force 1008 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 44

Assaulting units:
West Borneo KNIL Battalion
Singkawang Base Force

Defending units:
I/81st Naval Guard Unit
III/81st Naval Guard Unit

As soon as I capture Singkawang I will bring in some Betties and escort and start focusing on the oil.

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/27/2015 1:01:44 PM

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Dec 12, 1941, Turn Six

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Submarine attack near San Francisco at 216,70

Japanese Ships
SS I-26

Allied Ships
ACM Obstructor, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

ACM Obstructor is sighted by SS I-26
SS I-26 launches 2 torpedoes

There were no naval battles today.

Air combat was as minimal as last turn.

If it weren't for the following it would be an uneventful turn.

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 11011 troops, 68 guns, 110 vehicles, Assault Value = 382

Defending force 1417 troops, 25 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 40

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 328

Allied adjusted defense: 13

Japanese assault odds: 25 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Palembang !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

There was no damage to the oil or refineries. Time to bring in the tankers.

I noticed a couple of turns ago that when you capture a base you inherit the base modifiers that the previous owner had set. Rio had set all his ports and airfields to expand from the start where as I did the opposite. I have to make sure that I check the settings after capture to make sure they are what I want.

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Ground combat at Cagayan (79,89)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8385 troops, 91 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 268

Defending force 2482 troops, 4 guns, 50 vehicles, Assault Value = 50

Japanese adjusted assault: 196

Allied adjusted defense: 19

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Cagayan !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

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Ground combat at Guam (106,95)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6984 troops, 60 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 167

Defending force 771 troops, 0 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 10

Japanese adjusted assault: 70

Allied adjusted defense: 7

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Guam !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

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Ground combat at Singkawang (56,88)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1008 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 146

Defending force 950 troops, 11 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 30

Japanese adjusted assault: 29

Allied adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Singkawang !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 2 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/27/2015 1:12:37 PM

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CHINA

If I were playing the Allies I would send everything I could to Sian, Lanchow and Chungking and dig in for the duration. I do not know if Rio realizes the importance of Sian and Lanchow but I am going to attack as if he does.

There are six usable divisions in the Kaifeng area at the start of the game. From Manchukuo and Korea I am bringing in five more divisions, all of the artillery, all of the engineers that are not going to Fusan, all of the armor, and all of the bombers.

I will deploy the divisions like this.

The 37th and 41st which start at hex 90,40 west of Chengting will push west along the road to Sian.
The 10th starts in Kiamusze and will strat to Taiyuan and will follow them . The 110th which starts in Paoting will strat to Taiyuan and then move to where the 37th and 31st started and remain there to act as a rear guard and to attack Yenan later if needed.

The 35th that starts at Kaifeng will stay there until the area is well cleared.

The 32nd that starts at Suchow will move up to clear the tracks and end-up in Kaifeng. The 36th which starts in Tangshan will strat to Anyang.

The 12th, 24th, 14th, 23rd, the artillery, and the engineers will strat out of Manchukuo and Korea to Anyang. I chose Anyang because it is the closest base next to the RR crossing at Kaifeng that is clear all the way and I can start the strats on day one.

Once the five divs are at Anyang, they and all of the big artillery will push into the RR crossing and then to Loyang and route the units there. This will clear the RR in that area. Four of the five divs will move west, north-west up the little road to Sian and I will eventually end-up with eight or so divs and a few regiments at Sian. One div will move down to Chengchow to help the 32nd and then follow the other four if able.

The 32nd will move west into Chengchow and route the units there and then move down the RR towards Hankow clearing the RR as they go.

I have strated seven armor regiments to Kweisui where they clear the area and then move north then west along the brown road to Lanchow. Playing the AI this is usually enough to take Lanchow but if I have to I will bring up as many units from Sian as I need to do the job. I am going to use the rest of the armor to take care of those pesky little units that tend to pop-up out of nowhere.

Once Sian and Lanchow are secure, I will go straight for the throat at Chungking.

There are several other regiments and smaller units that will assist of course.

I will be heavily bombing the units that I am attacking or will soon attack. I am bombing the bases around Kaifeng now and will soon start bombing Sian. The aviation support that I need is just starting to arrive but it will take too long to get to Hankow where most of the aircraft is stationed because of the blocked RR. To ease that, I have moved a lot of a/c to Chengting, 92,40, where aviation support will arrive in a day or two. There is more than enough organic aviation support in area but I am shipping some from Pescadores to be used temporarily at Hankow until the RR is cleared. I tend to forget that Hankow has a port.

In the south I will be moving a div into Shanghai, the 17th from Soochow, to fill garrison due to the exit or the 21s and another, the 15th at Nanking, to Hangchow for later deployment.

As for the rest of China,my units will mostly just sit where they are until I am ready to deal with it as dictated by Rio's movements..

Rio knows that I am going for all of China and has stated that his goal will be to make it as expensive as possible for me. It appears at this time he is moving most of his units to the west and north-west. I suspect that he will get as many units into Chungking as possible. If he does that I will probably bomb the industry there as well.

In the far west I have units from Hanoi and Haiphong moving up to Kunming and I will try to capture Kunming and then Tsuyung to attempt to block any movements into Burma. This will be futile if he sends a lot but I will try and it may give him something to think about. If I have time I may try to airlift some more units there and bring in some bombers.

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/1/2015 7:33:00 AM

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Not much happening so I will combine these.

Dec 13 1941, Turn Seven

Chased the units that left Pbang and accidentally captured Praboemoelih.
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Ground combat at Praboemoelih (48,92)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 682 troops, 0 guns, 103 vehicles, Assault Value = 56

Defending force 876 troops, 13 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 8

Japanese adjusted assault: 38

Allied adjusted defense: 2

Japanese assault odds: 19 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Praboemoelih !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)

Allied ground losses:
578 casualties reported
Squads: 46 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 28 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 11 (10 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
1st Tank Regiment

Defending units:
So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion
Palembang Base Force

This will cut-off supply to the rest of the units on Mindanao.

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Ground combat at Zamboanga (75,89)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2402 troops, 19 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 139

Defending force 652 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 33

Japanese adjusted assault: 23

Allied adjusted defense: 7

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Zamboanga !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
326 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Dec 14, 1941, Turn Eight

I finally got to his a/c on the P.I. I will keep this up for awhile.

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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 98 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 17
Ki-27b Nate x 20
Ki-51 Sonia x 11

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 6 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 2 damaged
P-35A: 5 damaged
O-47A: 4 damaged

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7

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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 1 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 1 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 5

I am bombing units in China and have accumulated a lot of units in Anyang, see screen-shot. I am waiting for the combat units to unpack to start my attacks there.

I now have units at Johore Bahru but will wait for a little more AV before I attack. He has five units there.

In the P.I. I have units landing on the coastal hex east of Cabanatuan.

For the most part I am just waiting for stuff to get to where it is going.

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/7/2015 1:56:23 PM

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Dec 15, 1941, Turn Nine

Still not much happening.

Still bombing China and the P.I.

Dec 16, 1941, Turn Ten

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Sub attack near Lihue at 179,106

Japanese Ships
SS I-168

Allied Ships
xAKL Manini, Shell hits 26, heavy fires, heavy damage

xAKL Manini is sighted by SS I-168
SS I-168 attacking on the surface
SS I-168 low on gun ammo, Chiyoshima D. breaks off surface engagement and submerges

One of my mine sweepers did it the hard way.
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TF 176 encounters mine field at Hong Kong (77,61)

Japanese Ships
DMS W-16
DMS W-15
PB Yodozo Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Kyo Maru #13

51 mines cleared

These are the units that are pushing along the road from Chengting to Sian.
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Ground combat at 88,41 (near Kaoping)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28159 troops, 281 guns, 101 vehicles, Assault Value = 942

Defending force 7200 troops, 70 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 201

Japanese adjusted assault: 555

Allied adjusted defense: 79

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
638 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 54 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled

Allied ground losses:
3335 casualties reported
Squads: 118 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 48 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 9 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 22 (14 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Units retreated 3

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/7/2015 1:59:51 PM

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Dec 17, 1941, Turn Eleven

Another surface attack by one of my subs.
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Submarine attack near Coal Harbour at 204,50

Japanese Ships
SS I-3

Allied Ships
xAKL Mauna Ala, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage

xAKL Mauna Ala is sighted by SS I-3
SS I-3 attacking on the surface
SS I-3 low on gun ammo, Akashiba P. breaks off surface engagement and submerges

This is the start of my big China push to Sian. This cleared the RR intersection and these units and those following will go into Loyang. Units in Kaifieng will go into Chengchow..
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Ground combat at 88,43 (near Kaifeng)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 47387 troops, 414 guns, 180 vehicles, Assault Value = 1658

Defending force 4251 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 146

Japanese adjusted assault: 1551

Allied adjusted defense: 11

Japanese assault odds: 141 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
322 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1302 casualties reported
Squads: 132 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 55 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 45 (16 destroyed, 29 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Other action.
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Ground combat at Surigao (81,88)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 596 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 8

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Surigao !!!

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Ground combat at Singkep (49,87)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3507 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 122

Defending force 442 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 15

Japanese adjusted assault: 115

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 115 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Singkep !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 3 destroyed

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/7/2015 2:02:40 PM

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Dec 18, 1941, Turn Twelve

I am starting to get some traction in the P.I.
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Ground combat at Lingayen (79,75)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13489 troops, 131 guns, 83 vehicles, Assault Value = 425

Defending force 4929 troops, 127 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 150

Japanese adjusted assault: 329

Allied adjusted defense: 29

Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Lingayen !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
461 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled

Allied ground losses:
852 casualties reported
Squads: 146 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 102 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 70 (66 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 3

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Ground combat at Cabanatuan (80,76)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 16604 troops, 153 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 589

Defending force 2551 troops, 57 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 111

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 378

Allied adjusted defense: 9

Japanese assault odds: 42 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Cabanatuan !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
B-10B: 1 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
180 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1971 casualties reported
Squads: 40 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 68 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 32 (32 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/7/2015 2:59:11 PM

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Production

I am converting xAKs and xAKLs to PB's as per Mike Solli's �Once Again into the Breech.� I have about three-quarters of the ships to be converted in ports and went through the list keeping track of those that still need to get into port.

I am loading fuel at Pbang.

After a lot of consternation and research concerning pilot training I finally came to this conclusion.

Establish your training air groups.
Fill them up with pilots from the Replacement Pool.
Once trained to your goals, shove them into the Reserve Pool.
Repeat as necessary.

Here is a chart that I made for my own reference. Looks a lot more complicated than it really is.
Note, it is for moving pilots for training only, not the movement of pilots in non-training units. Please point-out any errors.

Note: Edited 2 Jul 15

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/8/2015 12:28:44 AM

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Can someone please tell me what is happening at Muri?

The mouse-over on Dec 7, 1941 shows Oil and Refinery at 150 (150). All of the other Oil and Refineries show their number and a zero on mouse-over, xxx (0), except Brunei next door which also has a number in parenthesis.

On Dec 19,1941 is shows 151 (150) for Oil and Refinery. Is Muri building or is this FOW?

I was about to pull the trigger on Muri but if it is building at his expense I will let it build-out before I take it.

Thanks.

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/10/2015 7:01:13 PM

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ORIGINAL: el lobo
Can someone please tell me what is happening at Muri?

Most certainly FOW, can't build new oil no matter what

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ORIGINAL: el lobo
After a lot of consternation and research concerning pilot training I finally came to this conclusion.

BTW, so many gamey things you can consider for your pilot training ;)
- Resize resizable IJN land-based CV/CS capable airgroups, using Akagi for F/DB/TB and Chitose/Chiyoda for floats. Gives you 81-sized and 24-sized units. Great for training and sweeping, bad for replacement airframes and pilot pools.
- Get all secondary FP airgroups off cruisers and resize them too into 24-sized units. They can happily take part in training your IJN fighter/bomber crews, do land-based ASW/Search duties all over the map etc. Later when some of CLs refit and can't carry their FPs any more you can resize those too.
- Use "Release pilot" button when transferring your pilots and never ever get an experience drop no matter the plane types
- Train IJN pilots on-map in those enlarged groups, instead of offmap, by forcing pilots into airgroups from training pools when replacement pool is already empty. They come with lower xp but it does not matter as they train way faster on map. Moreover, lower XP pilots are better for multiple skills training, as the latter slows down quite noticeably over 50+ xp.
- Build some obsolete airframes to fill the training groups, taking advantage of obsolete engines pools available (E8N2 Dave comes to mind). OK, this one is not gamey

Good luck!

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/11/2015 2:51:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: GetAssista

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ORIGINAL: el lobo
Can someone please tell me what is happening at Muri?

Most certainly FOW, can't build new oil no matter what

Well GetAssista, that is exactly what I thought but take a look at this (below). I will monitor it and see what happens.

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ORIGINAL: el lobo
After a lot of consternation and research concerning pilot training I finally came to this conclusion.

BTW, so many gamey things you can consider for your pilot training ;)

Thanks for the tips on gaming, err, training. Some of those I knew and, ummm, may have already done. But pulling the secondary FP group, using the release button only, and forcing the pilots out of the replacement pool are new ones and, ummm, will probably do. Those are good tips and I can use all the help I can get.

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/11/2015 2:58:32 PM

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Dec 19, 1941, Turn Thirteen

We took Johore Bahru today. It will be four or five days until the rest of my AV get here so we will rest awhile.
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Ground combat at Johore Bahru (50,83)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 19589 troops, 196 guns, 340 vehicles, Assault Value = 607

Defending force 5091 troops, 72 guns, 88 vehicles, Assault Value = 121

Japanese adjusted assault: 351

Allied adjusted defense: 81

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Johore Bahru !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
608 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1412 casualties reported
Squads: 33 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 161 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 15 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 47 (39 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 44 (44 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 4
Units destroyed 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Dec 20, 1941, Turn Fourteen

Subs still on the computer.

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Submarine attack near Horn Island at 92,129

Japanese Ships
SS I-173

Allied Ships
xAK Bellerophon, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

xAK Bellerophon is sighted by SS I-173
SS I-173 launches 2 torpedoes

Rio has flown very little CAP here and I wonder why he hasn't pulled his bombers out.

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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 57 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 25
Ki-27b Nate x 9
Ki-51 Sonia x 11

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 6 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 1 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 2 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
O-47A: 2 damaged
O-47A: 1 destroyed on ground

And again.

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Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
O-47A: 1 destroyed on ground
P-35A: 2 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 3 damaged

Finally got a division to Davao

and,
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Ground combat at Pakhoi (72,58)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3574 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 125

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 64

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 64 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Pakhoi !!!

This is notable because of the amount of damage done. There was no Bombardment done other than the pre-landing. Who did it?

The Tojos arrived at Pbang today. Rio bombs it about every three days. Will be interesting to see how they do.

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/11/2015 3:03:58 PM

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Muri (special) starts the game with half of the potential oil wells in a damaged state to represent the future potential of oil at this location. If repairing the oil is "on" for Muri, it will repair one point of oil per turn as long as >10,000 supply is maintained at the base, consuming 1000 supply per point repaired. Engineers are not required for these repairs to take place. Most JFB dump tens of thosands of supply points at Muri to repair oil points.

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/12/2015 12:07:37 AM

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Muri (special) starts the game with half of the potential oil wells in a damaged state to represent the future potential of oil at this location. If repairing the oil is "on" for Muri, it will repair one point of oil per turn as long as >10,000 supply is maintained at the base, consuming 1000 supply per point repaired. Engineers are not required for these repairs to take place. Most JFB dump tens of thosands of supply points at Muri to repair oil points.

Thanks Simomsez. That is good to know.

(Just for the record, I did try to search this on the forum. You know how that goes.)

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/12/2015 2:30:41 PM

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Dec 21, 1941, Turn Fifteen

This is not very exciting but I think it is very significant to the war effort.

A convoy left Pbang today with four tankers full of fuel. I also had two tankers leave Fusan with fuel for the H.I. I have CS convoys for resources between Sachalin and Hokkaido and Hokkaido and the H.I. The convoy system is getting easier to understand now that I have real stuff to haul and a base line from which to adjust. I have to admire the players who have the experience and knowledge to set this up from turn one.

I am still bombing in China and killing them by the dozens.

We took Davao today.

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Ground combat at Davao (79,91)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12474 troops, 120 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 429

Defending force 408 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22

Japanese adjusted assault: 186

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 186 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Davao !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-4 Catalina: 9 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
423 casualties reported
Squads: 24 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

We also took Miri with a little loss of factories.

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/12/2015 2:55:13 PM

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Dec 22, 1941, Turn Sixteen

We took Brunei today.

While working on my next turn I noticed that a lot of my air units are getting higher fatigue numbers. Most of them have good avation suport but I need more.

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/13/2015 10:42:32 AM

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ORIGINAL: Simonsez

Muri (special) starts the game with half of the potential oil wells in a damaged state to represent the future potential of oil at this location. If repairing the oil is "on" for Muri, it will repair one point of oil per turn as long as >10,000 supply is maintained at the base, consuming 1000 supply per point repaired. Engineers are not required for these repairs to take place. Most JFB dump tens of thosands of supply points at Muri to repair oil points.

I found what I was looking for. I will repair the Oil but not the Refinery as the H.I. has excess Refinery.

Thanks again.

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