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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/4/2015 3:21:56 AM

BBfanboy

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Even though the attack bombers missed Oi, the time spent fighting off the attack will cause her fires to grow - increasing the chance they can never be put out.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/4/2015 11:42:59 AM

Mundy

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It's nice that the IJN is pretty much neutered here.

Forgot to add that my new F6F squadron is also covering the raids, so this'll be their combat debut.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/4/2015 5:50:11 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mundy
It's nice that the IJN is pretty much neutered here.�

I don't think you can make that assumption. Yes you dealt the IJN a setback to their CL fleet but in doing so your navy was likewise weakened (and to a greater degree I would argue because BBs are worth more). If another IJN fleet comes here that would invalidate your argument and that could happen at any moment. But if you are able to really take control of the air you may convince CF that it's simply too dangerous to have combat ships near Ceylon.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/4/2015 7:23:08 PM

Mundy

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06 May 1943

So much for my air offensive.

Nobody decided to cooperate, and I got several smaller raids with minimal escorts. Maybe I should have swept also, but there's no guarantee that it would happen before the raids.

I'll try some big sweeps to see what happens. He has an awful lot of fighters there.

quote:

Morning Air attack on Colombo , at 29,48

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 35
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 73
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 13

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 21
Boomerang C-12 x 6
A-29 Hudson x 6
B-25C Mitchell x 11
P-38G Lightning x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 6 destroyed, 4 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed by flak
Boomerang C-12: 1 destroyed
A-29 Hudson: 3 destroyed
B-25C Mitchell: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-38G Lightning: 6 destroyed

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing from 9000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
9 x Blenheim IV bombing from 9000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x A-29 Hudson bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
253 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (13 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(13 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
5 planes vectored on to bombers
1st Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (16 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(16 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
16 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead
8 planes vectored on to bombers
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (7 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
11 planes vectored on to bombers
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (12 airborne, 24 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
16 planes vectored on to bombers
286 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (7 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
15 planes vectored on to bombers
66th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (4 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers

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Morning Air attack on Colombo , at 29,48

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 27
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 38
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 12

Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 3
Wellington Ic x 18
Wellington GR.VIII x 12
B-17F Fortress x 3
F4U-1 Corsair x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator II: 1 destroyed by flak
Wellington Ic: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged
Wellington GR.VIII: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-17F Fortress: 2 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington GR.VIII bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 250 lb GP Bomb
9 x Wellington Ic bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
253 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 14 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes
19 planes vectored on to bombers
66th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
11 planes vectored on to bombers
286 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
14 planes vectored on to bombers
1st Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers

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Morning Air attack on Colombo , at 29,48

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 22
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 24
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 12

Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 7
F6F-3 Hellcat x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator II: 3 damaged

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
253 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
14 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
10 planes vectored on to bombers
66th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
286 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 78 minutes
15 planes vectored on to bombers
1st Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers

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Morning Air attack on Colombo , at 29,48

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 21
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 17
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 7

Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington Ic: 7 destroyed

CAP engaged:
253 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
66th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
286 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (15 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
15 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 19000.
Raid is overhead
1st Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Raid is overhead
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Colombo , at 29,48

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 18
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 16
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 5

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 6
B-26B Marauder x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 3 destroyed

CAP engaged:
253 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
66th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
286 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
1st Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Colombo , at 29,48

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 17
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 14
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 5

Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 8
B-25D1 Mitchell x 12
P-38E Lightning x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17F Fortress: 2 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
P-38E Lightning: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
253 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
66th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 17000.
Raid is overhead
286 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
1st Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Colombo , at 29,48

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 10
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 10
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1

Allied aircraft
A-29 Hudson x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-29 Hudson: 3 destroyed

CAP engaged:
253 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
66th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
286 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
1st Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes

I'm wondering if putting all the planes under a common air HQ would help.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/4/2015 7:36:51 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mundy

06 May 1943

So much for my air offensive.

Nobody decided to cooperate, and I got several smaller raids with minimal escorts. Maybe I should have swept also, but there's no guarantee that it would happen before the raids.

I'll try some big sweeps to see what happens. He has an awful lot of fighters there.

In order to overcome these sorts of heavy air defenses I think you really need to get your cruisers involved to hit the airfield at night before your bombers come flying over. If it were me, I'd do something like 1 day of heavy fighter sweeps followed by a cruiser bombardment at night then a bomber attack. I think its a mistake to rely on sweeps the same day to clear out enemy fighters if you know they are there. Also, you could try using more night bombing when daylight raids are going to be too costly.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mundy
I'm wondering if putting all the planes under a common air HQ would help.

Yes, this will help a lot to coordinate your strikes better. Having a level 9 airbase to hold all your bombers will help as well.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/4/2015 10:38:35 PM

Mundy

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07 May 1943

They just keep fightin'

quote:

Night Naval bombardment of Cochin at 28,40 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 15 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed on ground
Wellington Ic: 12 damaged
Wellington Ic: 2 destroyed on ground
Mohawk IV: 11 damaged
Mohawk IV: 3 destroyed on ground
Martlet II: 6 damaged
Martlet II: 2 destroyed on ground
B-17F Fortress: 18 damaged
B-17F Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground
Beaufighter VIc: 5 damaged
A-20A1 Havoc: 13 damaged
A-20A1 Havoc: 1 destroyed on ground
P-38E Lightning: 46 damaged
P-38E Lightning: 6 destroyed on ground
Hurricane IIc Trop: 13 damaged
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed on ground
Catalina I: 12 damaged
Liberator II: 10 damaged
Liberator II: 1 destroyed on ground
Wellington GR.VIII: 6 damaged
F6F-3 Hellcat: 7 damaged
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed on ground
P-40K Warhawk: 7 damaged
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
F4U-1 Corsair: 16 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed on ground
Kittyhawk I: 2 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 1 destroyed on ground

69 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CL Yura
DD Shirayuki
DD Asagumo
DD Arashio
DD Oshio
DD Hagikaze

Allied Ships
BB Resolution, Shell hits 1, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
197 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Airbase hits 26
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 95

E7K2 Alf acting as spotter for CL Yura
CL Yura firing at Cochin Fortress
Cochin Fortress firing at CL Yura
DD Shirayuki firing at Cochin
Cochin Fortress firing at DD Asagumo
DD Asagumo firing at Cochin Fortress
DD Arashio firing at Cochin
DD Oshio firing at Cochin
DD Hagikaze firing at Cochin

It's hard to do anything about these, being as effing fast as they are. Within the next 3 days or so, I'll have Colombo smothered in subs.

I took another big bombardment at Suva today. This one hurt a bit.

What appears to be KB is sitting three hexes SE of Suva. My convoy from New Zealand is being routed westwards towards the Tahiti area to avoid this.

My Jugs are loading up for Suva, along with some B-25s at San Francisco. More supplies to. I'm also rebasing some xAKLs and subchasers from Pearl to Suva. From there, I can deal out some supply to my new satellite bases.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/5/2015 12:15:58 AM

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You really need inland bases for your long range aircraft. No sense leaving them on the coast to be hit by naval bombardment like that when they have the range to hit all of Ceylon from an inland base. What does the base situation look like in southern India?

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/5/2015 12:45:45 AM

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They're there, and reasonably sized. They won't pull in squat for supply though.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/6/2015 1:59:29 AM

Mundy

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08 May 1943

Stupid @#*$# little ships.

quote:

Night Naval bombardment of Cochin at 28,40 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter VIc: 4 damaged
Beaufighter VIc: 1 destroyed on ground
Wellington GR.VIII: 1 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 9 damaged
P-38E Lightning: 22 damaged
P-38E Lightning: 2 destroyed on ground
Mohawk IV: 2 damaged
Martlet II: 1 damaged
F6F-3 Hellcat: 5 damaged
B-17F Fortress: 9 damaged
A-20A1 Havoc: 6 damaged
Liberator II: 2 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 4 damaged
Hurricane IIc Trop: 4 damaged
Catalina I: 2 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 damaged

47 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CL Yura
DD Shirayuki
DD Asagumo
DD Arashio, Shell hits 1
DD Oshio
DD Hagikaze

Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 22

E7K2 Alf acting as spotter for CL Yura
CL Yura firing at Cochin
Cochin Fortress firing at DD Shirayuki
DD Shirayuki firing at Cochin Fortress
DD Asagumo firing at Cochin
DD Arashio firing at Cochin Fortress
Cochin Fortress firing at DD Arashio
DD Oshio firing at Cochin
DD Hagikaze firing at Cochin

I've taken the rather extreme measure of spending the 1,000 PPs and converting this base to USN Pacific Ocean Area Command and then building about 20 PT boats there. I also upped a bunch of the boat captains. Maybe, I can reduce bombardment times, at least.

I did a random malice raid at Rabaul from Portland Roads. Some revenge anyway.

quote:

Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 16

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PB Fukui Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Kinu, Bomb hits 2, on fire
xAP Baikal Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
APD Yomogi, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Naka, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Port Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Port Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/6/2015 2:48:20 PM

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The new PT squadrons got an immediate workout. One of them anyway -- the other never engaged.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Cochin at 28,40, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Yura
DD Hagikaze
DD Oshio
DD Arashio
DD Asagumo
DD Shirayuki

Allied Ships
PT-119, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
PT-120, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-121, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-122, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-123, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-124
PT-125, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-126, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-127, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-128, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-142
PT-143, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Allied TF begins to get underway
Reduced sighting due to 17% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 17% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards
Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 2,000 yards
CL Yura engages PT-128 at 2,000 yards
PT-127 sunk by DD Oshio at 2,000 yards
PT-143 sunk by DD Oshio at 2,000 yards
PT-119 sunk by DD Oshio at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
PT-128 sunk by DD Shirayuki at 4,000 yards
PT-125 sunk by DD Asagumo at 4,000 yards
CL Yura engages PT-123 at 4,000 yards
PT-122 engages DD Oshio at 4,000 yards
PT-120 sunk by CL Yura at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
PT-126 sunk by DD Oshio at 6,000 yards
PT-123 sunk by DD Arashio at 6,000 yards
PT-122 sunk by CL Yura at 6,000 yards
PT-121 sunk by DD Shirayuki at 6,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Cochin at 28,40, Range 15,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Yura
DD Hagikaze
DD Oshio
DD Arashio
DD Asagumo
DD Shirayuki

Allied Ships
PT-124, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-142, Shell hits 2, and is sunk

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 21,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 21,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
Shinoda, Tarohachi crosses the 'T'
DD Shirayuki engages PT-124 at 15,000 yards
DD Hagikaze engages PT-124 at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
DD Asagumo engages PT-124 at 11,000 yards
PT-142 sunk by DD Hagikaze at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages PT-124 at 8,000 yards
DD Asagumo engages PT-124 at 8,000 yards
PT-124 sunk by DD Oshio at 8,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...

This must be the new, improved IJN, as it seemed that every shot hit. I'll keep throwing bodies at them if it comes to it. The following bombardment seemed lighter and shorter lasting than usual.

quote:

Night Naval bombardment of Cochin at 28,40

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Catalina I: 1 damaged
P-38E Lightning: 3 damaged
Wellington GR.VIII: 1 damaged
Martlet II: 2 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 damaged
Mohawk IV: 3 damaged
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Yura

Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 3

E7K2 Alf acting as spotter for CL Yura
CL Yura firing at Cochin

I'm sending a bunch of MLs and MGBs from Karachi over to serve as chaff to feed him. The Battleships will be out awhile, but I should have a bunch of cruisers ready within a few days, and I'll use them for guard duty. My CAP should deter the Betties.

Meanwhile, Madras has raised up a notch with his attention fixed on Cochin. Beauforts hit his transports two hexes from Trincomalee. I had fighters resting, which was a mistake. I lost some (replaced), but got one. All the air there is on alert, and we'll see if he decides to run the gauntlet.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Trincomalee at 33,47

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 3

Allied aircraft
Beaufort VIII x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort VIII: 5 destroyed

Japanese Ships
xAK Ryuyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Beaufort VIII launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp.

CAP engaged:
253 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead

Trincomalee had been empty, but I'm guessing he's moved air in there again. Probably no shipping there, though.

Intel Monkey had this to say:

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1943-05-08 6/25th Division is loaded on xAP Teia Maru moving to Palembang -
1943-05-08 7/25th Division is loaded on a Japanese TK moving to Palembang -

CF must have gotten wind of this somehow. Many of the units I scattered though Australia are still prepping for Sumatra, and I'm wondering if he got tipped off in the intel screen. I've never seen a firm reading by the Japanese here before, so I'm unsure.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/6/2015 7:40:07 PM

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CF must have gotten wind of this somehow. Many of the units I scattered though Australia are still prepping for Sumatra, and I'm wondering if he got tipped off in the intel screen. I've never seen a firm reading by the Japanese here before, so I'm unsure

Palembang is one of the most important bases the Japanese have in the entire map. It's only logical that eventually a full Japanese division would be based there. Especially with China being a footnote in history.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/6/2015 8:15:50 PM

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Are you able to mine Cochin and perhaps curtail the enemy bombardments that way?

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/6/2015 8:57:27 PM

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Are you able to mine Cochin and perhaps curtail the enemy bombardments that way?

Mining seems to have minimal effect on bombardments unless you can get over 300 of them. Lower numbers seem to be treated as closer to shore (amphib landings will hit some) but bombardment TFs usually stand off at least 4K yards, even when their stand-off distance is set to 0. Better to mine a hex he has to pass through.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/6/2015 10:38:35 PM

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Mines have been running short as of late. I've had a number of missions planting them at Colombo. Probably about six subs worth.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/8/2015 7:39:44 PM

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Last turn Cochin had a visit from a bunch of the Japanese heavy hitters making a sweep. Fortunately, my fighters were resting. He seemed to be more interested in any ships rather than the airfields, to little effect.

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Morning Air attack on Cochin , at 28,40

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 36

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 30000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Cochin , at 28,40

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 34

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
34 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Cochin , at 28,40

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 170 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 50 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 27

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 30000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Cochin , at 28,40

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 113 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 42
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 3 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Cochin , at 28,40

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
BB Resolution, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Cochin , at 28,40

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 3

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet *

Reinforcements have arrived in the form of 2 CAs, 1 CL and a CLAA (the Dutch one). That and the PTs should prove a deterrent, and I have enough fighters to probably keep the Betties away.

I see I need to reign in my Mitchells in Australia a bit.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Buna at 99,129

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 21
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 6

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
xAK Kinugawa Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAK Tenyo Maru
xAK Syoan Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
xAK Kinugasa Maru, Shell hits 2
xAK Kashii Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
AMC Kinryu Maru, Bomb hits 1
xAK Arimasan Maru
xAK Lisbon Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
7 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
13th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(21 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
21 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead
32nd Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Buna at 99,129

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 6
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Tenyo Maru
xAK Kinugasa Maru
xAK Lisbon Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level *
Naval Attack: 1 plane(s) with no ordnance
4 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
32nd Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 1000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 138 minutes
13th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 1000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes

They did a number on them, despite the CAP bleed from Port Moresby. I remember a thread in the War Room from a few months ago asking about fighter casualties from medium bombers. Well, the 25s did bag a pair. These are definitely "attack bombers" as they strafed on the way in, despite being set at 1,000 feet. Looks like all that training time paid off. This bunch flew from Cairns. I moved a squadron of 38Gs there to help with any future jaunts. One of those things I didn't think of before.

My carriers, battleships and assault transports at Sydney are enroute to Pearl, via New Zealand. If KB spots them and makes a move, I'll probably let them. This is three fleet carriers and 8 CVEs, so there's *LOTS* of CAP present. 3 CVs and one CVE are fully stocked with F6Fs, too. One of the CVE TFs is taking the lead, and the rest are following. Should the worst happen, the accompanying BBs will probably siphon some off, too.

My TF from New Zealand is unloading at Savaii, dropping supplies and dive bombers. I should have an interlocking grid up before too long.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/8/2015 11:39:09 PM

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My carriers, battleships and assault transports at Sydney are enroute to Pearl, via New Zealand. If KB spots them and makes a move, I'll probably let them. This is three fleet carriers and 8 CVEs, so there's *LOTS* of CAP present. 3 CVs and one CVE are fully stocked with F6Fs, too. One of the CVE TFs is taking the lead, and the rest are following. Should the worst happen, the accompanying BBs will probably siphon some off, too.

In my current game I had a battle where I concentrated 5 CVs, 11 CVEs, and 15 BB/BC against a 7 CV strong KB in Dec 42. Like you I thought that heavy CAP from my CVEs would give me the edge. I was wrong. Yes my heavy CAP/AA took down around ~250 IJN planes but at the end of the day 7/11 CVEs would sink and 2/5 CVs were crippled while the damage to the Japanese fleet was rather minor. My slow BBs being in a separate TF than my CVs or CVEs meant they contributed absolutely nothing to the battle as the Japanese didn't target them at all. The only thing that saved me was the fact that the Japanese had fuel problems after 2 days of full speed and a night charge of my fast capital ships managed to sink some ships to even out the losses. And you have even fewer CV/CVEs than I did and the KB could have more CVs than I faced as well; it's not a battle you want to fight.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/9/2015 7:13:35 AM

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On the other hand, in a prior game, three USN CV wiped out KB while covering an invasion, losing only one. There's lots of variables at play, with many out of one's control.

I've been on the wrong side of luck in this game, so I don't want to push it. I'm still sore about not splattering KB with my battleships earlier.

Everyone's moving via the New Zealand route, and nobody's been spotted, so all's well so far. I'm uncertain what kind of reach his search planes at Noumea have.

I need more fighters in the Samoa area. I have roughly half a dozen SBD squadrons there, but the escorts available won't cut it if he makes a move. My fight at Ceylon is highlighting that nicely. When the Jugs arrive, things should improve. I have two B-24 squadrons there, which I plan to ship out. I need the ramp space. More base forces and Seabees are also loading up. I'm thinking about getting a network built up near Tahiti, but I'm wondering if that's desperate overkill.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/9/2015 10:02:23 PM

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What a day...

First thing: P-40K + George = disaster.

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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 34

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 10 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
51st FG/26th FS with P-40K Warhawk (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 10 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 97 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 25
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 39

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 10 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Vengeance I: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 30

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
23 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
51st FG/26th FS with P-40K Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes

CF seems to have switched focus to Madras. The bombers came from the east, so it remains to be seen if he's starting a serious offensive here or if it's just our tit for tat raids.

My -1P Liberators have been starting to check out what's on the Jimas. Paramushiro-Jima appears to have 10,660 troops there, as well as a good sized fighter squadron present. Some assorted ships are in harbor, too. I'll be moving down the line to check each one out. It is a bit rich for what I've got I've got in the area (about a division worth).

I've been losing track of time. Essex arrived in Balboa today. Once she's on map, I'll send a bunch of destroyers to escort he into Pearl. In the next 2.5 months, one Essex and three Independence CV/CVLs will be showing up at Panama. Probably 2-3 more fleet ships before year's end, which means I can't go hog wild yet.

Over the next four days, two more fulled up P-47 squadrons arrive in Eastern USA. Two more of P-38Gs will also arrive in Charter Towers. After the Madras bashing, I'll be flipping USAAF squadrons in India to Jugs as fast as possible. It looks like must of my Suva disbandees will be arriving in San Fran in 10 days.

The lead CVE TF leading the carrier mob got spotted by a Glen and are at 1/1 detection level. I did splash the Glen. They're 10 hexes NW of New Zealand. His carriers are about 4 hexes S of Suva apparently heading west. They're basically just standing off the island at this point. No idea if he'll give chase or not. If he heads this way, I'll hide within the USN/USMC air umbrella I have at NZ.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/9/2015 10:29:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mundy
First thing: P-40K + George = disaster.

What do your pilots look like? I think part of the issue is insufficient numbers of planes you have on CAP. Surely you have some other short ranged interceptors that can't find work outside of guarding bases like this?

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ORIGINAL: Mundy
My -1P Liberators have been starting to check out what's on the Jimas. Paramushiro-Jima appears to have 10,660 troops there, as well as a good sized fighter squadron present. Some assorted ships are in harbor, too. I'll be moving down the line to check each one out. It is a bit rich for what I've got I've got in the area (about a division worth).

I've mentioned before that I think that the Kuriles could be the key to victory for you. You've been pushed back many places but not the NorPac. But if you go after it it requires a complete dedicated effort on your part and you'd need to shift a lot of resources out here.

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ORIGINAL: Mundy
The lead CVE TF leading the carrier mob got spotted by a Glen and are at 1/1 detection level. I did splash the Glen. They're 10 hexes NW of New Zealand. His carriers are about 4 hexes S of Suva apparently heading west. They're basically just standing off the island at this point. No idea if he'll give chase or not. If he heads this way, I'll hide within the USN/USMC air umbrella I have at NZ.

Hiding under an air umbrella isn't the way to go. Even with some LBA those CVEs will get crushed. Best bet is to escape in the open ocean and get that detection down. KB can't attack a target it can't find. Until early 44 that's the best defense you have against the KB.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/10/2015 1:22:33 PM

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I'm not sure offhand what the skills were and will check later. They' weren't raw. With my training regimen, the pools are filled with 60+ pilots. I've only sent 1-2 aces stateside for training at this stage. A neat thing was at Panama, I requested a veteran for Essex's fighters and was able to assign McCampbell, keeping things historic.

I've a division in San Francisco which is only days away from being bought out. I can think about dedicating them to the north. Flipping Cochin to a USN command cost a thousand points, so I have to make that up.

I was reviewing Japanese losses. "Officially", Yamato and Haruna are sunk, which is wrong. Haruna is dead as a side effect from the KB ambush earlier. I believe both Yamashiros are gone, which should replace the Yamato stat.

Hopefully, he'll lose contact with my carriers, since I killed the floatplane. Moving at CVE speed keeps the progress slow. The CVE TF leading the bunch is set to max react with a very aggressive admiral in charge -- my thought being that if he comes at me, I want to close the distance quickly. All my carrier mishaps involved getting struck at max range with little ability to retaliate. To review, I have two 4 CVE TFs, one 3 CV group (two fast battleships and a CLAA are with these), and the remaining BBs, with heavy escort in the last bunch. One of the CVEs flipped to Hellcats before everyone departed, so hopefully they'll get healed up fairly quickly. Probably 6 days to get everyone up. 4 large F6F squadrons can only help things.

I believe the SBD-5 and early SB2Cs are coming online now. I think they're coming in at the 30-40 rate per month, so conversion will be protracted. I have over 100 SBD-3s in the pool, and I've started converting some of the Kingfisher squadrons over. I usually keep a tight control on what converts or doesn't convert, as I watch the pools fairly closely.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/10/2015 4:43:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mundy
I've a division in San Francisco which is only days away from being bought out.� I can think about dedicating them to the north.� Flipping Cochin to a USN command cost a thousand points, so I have to make that up.

I think you misunderstood the point I was trying to make. There is no sense having 2 or 3 divisions in the north. It's not enough to gain a foothold. You need 5+ divisions with a few division equivalents of other units if you want to do something up north. I don't think the Kuriles are an option for you until mid-44 unless you can defeat the KB before that. Better off sending that division somewhere else in the meantime. Check out the AAR of tiemanj vs Lowpe if you want to see a successful invasion in the north.

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ORIGINAL: Mundy
I was reviewing Japanese losses.� "Officially", Yamato and Haruna are sunk, which is wrong.� Haruna is dead as a side effect from the KB ambush earlier.� I believe both Yamashiros are gone, which should replace the Yamato stat.

I too have noticed that sometimes when I sink a ship of one type that it oftens lists another inaccurate ship. Pretty common to sink one BB then see another one as being sunk. I take it you haven't sunk any Japanese CV/CVL/CVE yet then?

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/10/2015 6:56:20 PM

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15 May 1943

Tense times.

KB is headed south, being 10 hexes SW of Suva. A sub took a shot at a CVE, and fortunately, the IJN suffers from duds too, now and then. I did pound the snot out of it afterwards. putting 5 soft fuel leaking hits and one good hard hit. Good ol' Benson...

His carriers are in two TFs. I don't know how trustworthy these numbers are, but the sightings claim a total of 220 fighters and 333 bombers between them. I took stock of what I have.

I have a total of 301 fighters, 150 of them Hellcats. All fleet CVs and two CVEs have them. My total bomber count is 189. Hellcats can escort the bombers as far as they need having 10 with tanks. If I can't fully stop his raid, he'll have a bear of a time with mine.

I won't be able to outrun them, so I'm moving them to a spot two hexes SW of Auckland. Fighters and bombers there are on alert. One USMC TBF and one SBD squadron are there, plus some of the weaker Kiwi stuff. 4 USAAF P-40 squadron and 2 RNZAF P-40 squadrons are also there. Plenty of search capacity between there and Pago Pago. My group leader on the leading CVE force has a naval skill of 80 and 80 aggression, with the reaction range maxed. If/when we meet, I want them to get close with none of this max range stuff. If we don't meet next turn they will for sure the next.

I'm rather tense about this right now. Either I will take serious lumps and have my carrier situation set back a year, or the Pacific will be effectively mine after this. I was tempted to charge forth, but I'd like the extra land based help at this point.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/10/2015 7:52:32 PM

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16 May 1943

Or maybe not...

KB has moved SE and is parked 14 hexes NE of Auckland. My guys are two hexes to the SW. He may be having a circumspect moment himself. Airplane count on the tooltip reads about the same as last turn.

Forgot to mention, another full squadron of Jugs arrive in the US. Preparing to ship out.

Cochin got swept this turn. It's been off-and-on again for the last few days, so I doubt anything serious is about to ramp up yet. My cruisers and destroyer there are about to bombard Colombo. They should make it in a turn, like he's done to me. His little ships are sitting there, so maybe I can finish the job.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/11/2015 10:00:34 PM

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18 May 1943

First things first.

I'm embarrassed to say I've lost both my RN battleships near Cochin. Their damaged state along with some aggressive subs did them in. The downside of going in short on destroyers. For what it's worth, 4 USN DDs are on the way from Cape Town to bolster things up on that end.

CF appears hesitant to take on my carriers with his extended KB. They're further NE than before and appear to be heading northwards. One CVTF has split off about six hexes away from the other, which could prove an opening. I imagine he's concerned about losing the war on the eastern half of the map in a day.

I've had a bunch of Kingfisher squadrons in Sydney. I've flipped about three to SBDs. I notice about 26 SB2Cs in the pool, so by the time everyone gets back, I may be able to flip a couple squadrons. Some Wildcat squadrons upgraded to Corsairs and Hellcats. I'll probably move them to Portland Roads and think about an air offensive against Port Moresby. An invasion is looking a little more feasible at this point.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/12/2015 7:26:46 PM

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I'm embarrassed to say I've lost both my RN battleships near Cochin. Their damaged state along with some aggressive subs did them in.

Yeowch.

What's the current victory point status?

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/12/2015 9:21:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock
Yeowch. What's the current victory point status?

I'll have to look next turn. He was well over the autovictory threshold.

19 May 1943

Day of Decision.

CF moved his fleet in. His carriers are currently three hexes NE of mine. Weather was the only thing in the way this turn.

It'll most likely get hairy next turn.

My escorting SCFT with the two slow battleships are going to run right up the line next turn at flank speed. Hopefully, I can get some cheap decisive hits in during the night. I've also put out a bunch of DMs, Transports and other chaff to enter the general area to serve as distracting targets. It happened in my prior game messing up KB's strikes, so any little edge helps.

One of my CVEs is suddenly in an Escort TF with a bunch of flt damage. No ideal how that happened, and I don't see anything on the previous day's report. A sub took a shot at Lex, but missed, so I know he has at least two in the area.

My subs nailed an E and two xAKs this turn. Better torpedoes.

At this point, I'd be content losing all my carriers there if KB was likewise demolished. Another CVE showed up at Tacoma this turn. IF KB gets smacked, I'm immediately kicking off the Gilberts operation, and I'll follow it up fairly quickly in the Marshalls.

It all hinges on next turn.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/12/2015 10:38:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mundy
It happened in my prior game messing up KB's strikes, so any little edge helps.

Usually helps if your CV fleet comes in undetected while there are other fleets there. That's when those distractions are very helpful. If your CVs are fully detected, however, they will be sure to see the bulk of the attacks. BBs seem to be the best distraction in my experience.

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ORIGINAL: Mundy
One of my CVEs is suddenly in an Escort TF with a bunch of flt damage. No ideal how that happened, and I don't see anything on the previous day's report.

Interesting! Usually on the ship it will say what gave it damage last but I have found that to be inaccurate (or sometimes just missing).

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At this point, I'd be content losing all my carriers there if KB was likewise demolished. Another CVE showed up at Tacoma this turn. IF KB gets smacked, I'm immediately kicking off the Gilberts operation, and I'll follow it up fairly quickly in the Marshalls.

Anything close to a 1 to 1 trade would be absolutely amazing for you! That being said, I'm pretty skeptical that's going to happen. CF has been trying to force this battle and you're about to give it to him. This might be the end of the USN fleet...guess we will have to wait.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/13/2015 12:58:58 AM

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A decisive battle... sorta.

The ships running interference did their job, and the Japanese wasted plenty of ammo on them.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Raoul Island at 125,183, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Shell hits 1
BB Mutsu
BB Ise
BB Hyuga
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
DD Natsushio, Shell hits 1
DD Hayashio
DD Asashio
DD Natsugumo
DD Wakaba
DD Isonami

Allied Ships
DM Breese
DM Pruitt, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DM Sicard
DM Gamble, Shell hits 6, and is sunk

Improved night sighting under 100% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 100% moonlight: 12,000 yards
Range closes to 23,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 23,000 yards
Range closes to 21,000 yards...
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 19,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 13,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
Yano, Hideo* crosses the 'T'
BB Nagato engages DM Gamble at 11,000 yards
BB Ise engages DM Sicard at 11,000 yards
BB Nagato engages DM Breese at 11,000 yards
CA Furutaka engages DM Gamble at 11,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages DM Gamble at 11,000 yards
DD Isonami engages DM Breese at 11,000 yards
DD Natsugumo engages DM Pruitt at 11,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DM Sicard at 11,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DM Sicard at 11,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DM Breese at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages DM Gamble at 10,000 yards
BB Ise engages DM Gamble at 10,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages DM Gamble at 10,000 yards
BB Nagato engages DM Breese at 10,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages DM Gamble at 10,000 yards
DD Isonami engages DM Sicard at 10,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DM Gamble at 10,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DM Gamble at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages DM Gamble at 7,000 yards
BB Ise engages DM Gamble at 7,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages DM Gamble at 7,000 yards
CA Furutaka engages DM Gamble at 7,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages DM Gamble at 7,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DM Breese at 7,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DM Sicard at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages DM Gamble at 6,000 yards
BB Nagato engages DM Sicard at 6,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages DM Pruitt at 6,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages DM Breese at 6,000 yards
DD Isonami engages DM Gamble at 6,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DM Gamble at 6,000 yards
DM Pruitt sunk by DD Asashio at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages DM Gamble at 9,000 yards
DM Gamble sunk by BB Ise at 9,000 yards
BB Nagato engages DM Breese at 9,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DM Breese at 9,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DM Breese at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
BB Nagato engages DM Sicard at 13,000 yards
BB Nagato engages DM Breese at 13,000 yards
DD Natsugumo engages DM Sicard at 13,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DM Sicard at 13,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Raoul Island at 124,183, Range 25,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Hiei, Shell hits 1
BB Kirishima
DD Uranami
DD Ayanami
DD Oboro
DD Katsutade, Shell hits 1
DD Satsukaze

Allied Ships
DM Breese, Shell hits 3
DM Sicard, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage

Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions: 30,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 25,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 25,000 yards
BB Hiei engages DM Sicard at 25,000 yards
Range closes to 22,000 yards
BB Kirishima engages DM Sicard at 22,000 yards
DD Katsutade engages DM Sicard at 22,000 yards
DD Uranami engages DM Breese at 22,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards
BB Kirishima engages DM Sicard at 20,000 yards
BB Hiei engages DM Sicard at 20,000 yards
BB Kongo engages DM Sicard at 20,000 yards
DD Satsukaze engages DM Breese at 20,000 yards
DD Katsutade engages DM Breese at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 19,000 yards
BB Kirishima engages DM Sicard at 19,000 yards
BB Hiei engages DM Breese at 19,000 yards
BB Kongo engages DM Breese at 19,000 yards
DD Oboro engages DM Breese at 19,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards
BB Kirishima engages DM Sicard at 17,000 yards
BB Hiei engages DM Breese at 17,000 yards
BB Kongo engages DM Sicard at 17,000 yards
DD Katsutade engages DM Sicard at 17,000 yards
DD Ayanami engages DM Breese at 17,000 yards
DD Uranami engages DM Breese at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 13,000 yards
BB Kirishima engages DM Sicard at 13,000 yards
BB Hiei engages DM Sicard at 13,000 yards
DD Oboro engages DM Breese at 13,000 yards
DD Ayanami engages DM Breese at 13,000 yards
DD Uranami engages DM Breese at 13,000 yards
Fultz, H.L. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range closes to 12,000 yards
BB Kirishima engages DM Sicard at 12,000 yards
BB Kirishima engages DM Breese at 12,000 yards
BB Kongo engages DM Sicard at 12,000 yards
DD Katsutade engages DM Sicard at 12,000 yards
DD Oboro engages DM Breese at 12,000 yards
DD Ayanami engages DM Breese at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
BB Kirishima engages DM Sicard at 9,000 yards
BB Hiei engages DM Breese at 9,000 yards
DD Satsukaze engages DM Breese at 9,000 yards
DD Katsutade engages DM Sicard at 9,000 yards
DD Oboro engages DM Sicard at 9,000 yards
DD Ayanami engages DM Breese at 9,000 yards
DD Uranami engages DM Breese at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
BB Kirishima engages DM Sicard at 10,000 yards
BB Kirishima engages DM Breese at 10,000 yards
DD Katsutade engages DM Breese at 10,000 yards
DD Ayanami engages DM Breese at 10,000 yards
DD Uranami engages DM Breese at 10,000 yards
Range increases to 15,000 yards
BB Kirishima engages DM Sicard at 15,000 yards
BB Kirishima engages DM Breese at 15,000 yards
DD Katsutade engages DM Sicard at 15,000 yards
DD Oboro engages DM Breese at 15,000 yards
DD Uranami engages DM Sicard at 15,000 yards
Range increases to 21,000 yards
BB Kirishima engages DM Sicard at 21,000 yards
BB Hiei engages DM Breese at 21,000 yards
BB Kongo engages DM Sicard at 21,000 yards
Range increases to 27,000 yards
Task forces break off...

My running of the slow battleships did pay off. They wound up in two big fights.

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Raoul Island at 124,184, Range 29,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CV Kaga, Shell hits 32, heavy fires, heavy damage
CV Junyo, Shell hits 2
CV Hiyo, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Ryujo, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVL Shoho, Shell hits 1
CVL Zuiho, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Ryuho, Shell hits 3, on fire
BB Yamato, Shell hits 3
CA Haguro, Shell hits 2
DD Makigumo
DD Makinami
DD Kiyonami, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Yukikaze, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Isokaze, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Nowaki, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
BB Nevada
BB Idaho, Shell hits 1
BB Mississippi, Shell hits 17, on fire
CA Vincennes, Shell hits 2
CA Wichita, Shell hits 1
CA Australia, Shell hits 1
CL Helena, Shell hits 2
CL Cleveland
DD Chevalier
DD Benham
DD Case, Shell hits 1
DD Conyngham
DD Shaw
DD Cushing, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Perkins
DD Flusser, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Tucker
DD Phelps, Shell hits 1
DD Clark
DD Dale, Shell hits 1
DD Nepal, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Van Galen
APD Stringham
APD Kilty

Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions: 30,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 29,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 29,000 yards
BB Nevada engages CV Kaga at 29,000 yards
Range closes to 28,000 yards
BB Idaho engages CV Kaga at 28,000 yards
BB Nevada engages CV Kaga at 28,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages CVL Ryujo at 28,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL Helena at 28,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages CA Haguro at 28,000 yards
Range closes to 25,000 yards
BB Nevada engages CV Hiyo at 25,000 yards
BB Nevada engages CV Kaga at 25,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages CVL Zuiho at 25,000 yards
CA Vincennes engages CV Kaga at 25,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages CVL Ryujo at 25,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB Idaho at 25,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages CA Haguro at 25,000 yards
Range closes to 23,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages CV Hiyo at 23,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages CV Kaga at 23,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CA Vincennes at 23,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages CVL Ryujo at 23,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB Mississippi at 23,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages DD Isokaze at 23,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages DD Makinami at 23,000 yards
Range closes to 22,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages CV Kaga at 22,000 yards
CA Australia engages CV Kaga at 22,000 yards
CA Wichita engages CV Kaga at 22,000 yards
Fuel storage explosion on CVL Ryujo
BB Mississippi engages CVL Ryujo at 22,000 yards
CL Helena engages CV Kaga at 22,000 yards
CA Haguro engages DD Van Galen at 22,000 yards
DD Isokaze engages DD Nepal at 22,000 yards
DD Kiyonami engages BB Mississippi at 22,000 yards
Range closes to 19,000 yards
BB Idaho engages CV Kaga at 19,000 yards
BB Nevada engages CV Kaga at 19,000 yards
CA Australia engages CV Kaga at 19,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages CVL Zuiho at 19,000 yards
CL Helena engages CV Kaga at 19,000 yards
CA Haguro engages BB Mississippi at 19,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages DD Nowaki at 19,000 yards
DD Isokaze engages BB Mississippi at 19,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages DD Yukikaze at 19,000 yards
DD Kiyonami engages BB Mississippi at 19,000 yards
DD Isokaze engages DD Cushing at 19,000 yards
DD Yukikaze engages DD Benham at 19,000 yards
DD Isokaze engages DD Chevalier at 19,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards
DD Cushing engages CV Kaga at 18,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages CVL Zuiho at 18,000 yards
CA Vincennes engages CV Kaga at 18,000 yards
CL Helena engages CV Kaga at 18,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CA Vincennes at 18,000 yards
DD Nowaki engages DD Case at 18,000 yards
DD Kiyonami engages DD Dale at 18,000 yards
DD Clark engages DD Nowaki at 18,000 yards
DD Makinami engages DD Tucker at 18,000 yards
DD Isokaze engages DD Flusser at 18,000 yards
DD Perkins engages DD Isokaze at 18,000 yards
DD Shaw engages DD Yukikaze at 18,000 yards
DD Conyngham engages DD Makinami at 18,000 yards
DD Isokaze engages DD Case at 18,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages CV Hiyo at 15,000 yards
BB Nevada engages CV Kaga at 15,000 yards
CA Wichita engages CA Haguro at 15,000 yards
CA Vincennes engages CV Kaga at 15,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages BB Yamato at 15,000 yards
DD Yukikaze engages DD Van Galen at 15,000 yards
DD Isokaze engages DD Dale at 15,000 yards
DD Case engages DD Kiyonami at 15,000 yards
DD Kiyonami engages DD Tucker at 15,000 yards
DD Makigumo engages DD Tucker at 15,000 yards
DD Isokaze engages DD Shaw at 15,000 yards
DD Case engages DD Kiyonami at 15,000 yards
APD Kilty engages CV Kaga at 15,000 yards
APD Stringham engages CV Kaga at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 14,000 yards
BB Idaho engages CV Junyo at 14,000 yards
BB Nevada engages CV Kaga at 14,000 yards
DD Tucker engages CVL Zuiho at 14,000 yards
CL Cleveland engages CV Kaga at 14,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages BB Yamato at 14,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages CA Haguro at 14,000 yards
DD Nowaki engages DD Nepal at 14,000 yards
DD Isokaze engages DD Flusser at 14,000 yards
DD Yukikaze engages DD Clark at 14,000 yards
DD Yukikaze engages DD Phelps at 14,000 yards
DD Cushing engages DD Makinami at 14,000 yards
DD Flusser engages DD Makigumo at 14,000 yards
DD Isokaze engages DD Perkins at 14,000 yards
DD Makigumo engages DD Shaw at 14,000 yards
DD Benham engages DD Nowaki at 14,000 yards
DD Makigumo engages DD Chevalier at 14,000 yards
APD Kilty engages CV Kaga at 14,000 yards
APD Stringham engages CV Kaga at 14,000 yards
Range closes to 13,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages CV Hiyo at 13,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages CV Junyo at 13,000 yards
BB Nevada engages CV Kaga at 13,000 yards
CA Australia engages CV Kaga at 13,000 yards
CA Wichita engages CV Kaga at 13,000 yards
CA Vincennes engages CA Haguro at 13,000 yards
DD Chevalier engages CVL Ryujo at 13,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages BB Yamato at 13,000 yards
CA Haguro engages BB Mississippi at 13,000 yards
DD Nepal engages DD Nowaki at 13,000 yards
DD Clark engages DD Nowaki at 13,000 yards
DD Kiyonami engages DD Phelps at 13,000 yards
DD Tucker engages DD Isokaze at 13,000 yards
DD Nowaki engages DD Flusser at 13,000 yards
DD Case engages DD Isokaze at 13,000 yards
DD Nowaki engages DD Chevalier at 13,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
Fuel storage explosion on CV Kaga
BB Idaho engages CV Kaga at 9,000 yards
DD Flusser engages CV Kaga at 9,000 yards
DD Phelps engages CVL Ryuho at 9,000 yards
CA Wichita engages CV Kaga at 9,000 yards
DD Shaw engages CVL Shoho at 9,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB Mississippi at 9,000 yards
CA Haguro engages DD Van Galen at 9,000 yards
DD Yukikaze engages DD Nepal at 9,000 yards
DD Yukikaze engages DD Dale at 9,000 yards
DD Yukikaze engages DD Cushing at 9,000 yards
DD Makinami engages DD Phelps at 9,000 yards
DD Makinami engages DD Tucker at 9,000 yards
DD Flusser engages DD Makinami at 9,000 yards
DD Shaw engages DD Yukikaze at 9,000 yards
DD Conyngham engages DD Isokaze at 9,000 yards
APD Stringham engages CV Kaga at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
DD Nepal engages CV Hiyo at 12,000 yards
Fuel storage explosion on CV Kaga
BB Idaho engages CV Kaga at 12,000 yards
BB Nevada engages CV Kaga at 12,000 yards
CA Australia engages CVL Ryuho at 12,000 yards
CA Wichita engages CVL Zuiho at 12,000 yards
CL Cleveland engages CV Kaga at 12,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL Helena at 12,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CA Australia at 12,000 yards
DD Nowaki engages DD Cushing at 12,000 yards
DD Yukikaze engages DD Dale at 12,000 yards
DD Isokaze engages DD Clark at 12,000 yards
DD Perkins engages DD Kiyonami at 12,000 yards
DD Tucker engages DD Makigumo at 12,000 yards
DD Flusser engages DD Makigumo at 12,000 yards
DD Yukikaze engages DD Conyngham at 12,000 yards
DD Makinami engages DD Case at 12,000 yards
DD Chevalier engages DD Isokaze at 12,000 yards
APD Kilty engages CV Hiyo at 12,000 yards
Range increases to 16,000 yards
DD Shaw engages CV Junyo at 16,000 yards
BB Nevada engages CV Kaga at 16,000 yards
BB Mississippi engages CVL Ryuho at 16,000 yards
CA Wichita engages CV Kaga at 16,000 yards
DD Perkins engages CVL Shoho at 16,000 yards
CL Cleveland engages CV Kaga at 16,000 yards
CL Helena engages CV Kaga at 16,000 yards
DD Makigumo engages DD Nepal at 16,000 yards
DD Cushing engages DD Isokaze at 16,000 yards
DD Clark engages DD Yukikaze at 16,000 yards
DD Isokaze engages DD Phelps at 16,000 yards
DD Nowaki engages DD Tucker at 16,000 yards
DD Dale engages DD Makigumo at 16,000 yards
DD Case engages DD Isokaze at 16,000 yards
Range increases to 19,000 yards
CV Hiyo , CV Junyo , CV Kaga ,
CVL Ryuho , CVL Zuiho , CVL Shoho ,
CVL Ryujo screened from combat
- escorted by DD Nowaki , DD Yukikaze , DD Kiyonami
BB Yamato engages BB Mississippi at 19,000 yards
BB Idaho engages CV Kaga at 19,000 yards
DD Isokaze engages DD Cushing at 19,000 yards
CA Wichita engages CV Kaga at 19,000 yards
CL Helena engages CV Kaga at 19,000 yards
DD Makigumo engages DD Tucker at 19,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Raoul Island at 124,184, Range 29,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Shell hits 13, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 1
BB Ise
BB Hyuga
CA Kinugasa, Shell hits 1
CA Furutaka, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Natsushio
DD Hayashio, Shell hits 1
DD Asashio
DD Natsugumo
DD Wakaba, Shell hits 1
DD Isonami

Allied Ships
BB Nevada, Shell hits 1
BB Idaho, Shell hits 19, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA Vincennes, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
CA Wichita
CA Australia, Shell hits 2, heavy fires
CL Cleveland, Shell hits 1
DD Chevalier
DD Benham
DD Case
DD Conyngham
DD Shaw
DD Cushing, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
DD Perkins, Shell hits 1
DD Tucker
DD Phelps
DD Clark, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
DD Dale
DD Nepal, on fire
APD Stringham
APD Kilty

Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions: 30,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 29,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 29,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages BB Idaho at 29,000 yards
BB Ise engages BB Idaho at 29,000 yards
BB Nagato engages CA Australia at 29,000 yards
BB Nagato engages CA Wichita at 29,000 yards
BB Nagato engages CA Vincennes at 29,000 yards
BB Ise engages DD Clark at 29,000 yards
BB Idaho engages DD Natsushio at 29,000 yards
BB Ise engages DD Cushing at 29,000 yards
Range closes to 25,000 yards
BB Nagato engages BB Idaho at 25,000 yards
BB Nagato engages CA Australia at 25,000 yards
BB Nagato engages CA Wichita at 25,000 yards
BB Idaho engages CA Furutaka at 25,000 yards
BB Nagato engages CL Cleveland at 25,000 yards
BB Idaho engages DD Wakaba at 25,000 yards
BB Idaho engages DD Natsugumo at 25,000 yards
BB Nagato engages DD Cushing at 25,000 yards
BB Nagato engages DD Shaw at 25,000 yards
BB Ise engages DD Conyngham at 25,000 yards
Range closes to 22,000 yards
BB Idaho engages BB Hyuga at 22,000 yards
BB Nevada engages BB Nagato at 22,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages BB Idaho at 22,000 yards
BB Idaho engages BB Nagato at 22,000 yards
BB Idaho engages CA Furutaka at 22,000 yards
BB Nagato engages CL Cleveland at 22,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages APD Stringham at 22,000 yards
Range closes to 19,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages BB Idaho at 19,000 yards
BB Nagato engages BB Nevada at 19,000 yards
BB Idaho engages BB Mutsu at 19,000 yards
BB Idaho engages BB Nagato at 19,000 yards
BB Nagato engages CA Vincennes at 19,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages BB Idaho at 19,000 yards
DD Isonami engages DD Clark at 19,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Conyngham at 19,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Clark at 19,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Cushing at 19,000 yards
DD Shaw engages DD Wakaba at 19,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Conyngham at 19,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Benham at 19,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages BB Idaho at 15,000 yards
BB Nevada engages BB Nagato at 15,000 yards
BB Idaho engages BB Mutsu at 15,000 yards
BB Idaho engages BB Nagato at 15,000 yards
CA Furutaka engages BB Idaho at 15,000 yards
BB Nagato engages CL Cleveland at 15,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Nepal at 15,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Dale at 15,000 yards
DD Natsugumo engages DD Nepal at 15,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Conyngham at 15,000 yards
DD Perkins engages DD Hayashio at 15,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Perkins at 15,000 yards
DD Cushing engages DD Natsushio at 15,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Benham at 15,000 yards
DD Chevalier engages DD Wakaba at 15,000 yards
BB Nagato engages APD Kilty at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
BB Idaho engages BB Hyuga at 11,000 yards
BB Nagato engages BB Nevada at 11,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages BB Idaho at 11,000 yards
BB Idaho engages BB Nagato at 11,000 yards
CA Furutaka engages BB Idaho at 11,000 yards
BB Nagato engages CL Cleveland at 11,000 yards
Magazine explodes on DD Clark
DD Clark sunk by DD Isonami at 11,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Perkins at 11,000 yards
DD Natsugumo engages DD Benham at 11,000 yards
DD Perkins engages DD Natsushio at 11,000 yards
DD Isonami engages DD Shaw at 11,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Benham at 11,000 yards
DD Chevalier engages DD Natsugumo at 11,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages APD Stringham at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
BB Ise engages BB Idaho at 8,000 yards
BB Nagato engages CA Australia at 8,000 yards
CA Wichita engages CA Furutaka at 8,000 yards
BB Idaho engages CA Furutaka at 8,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Nepal at 8,000 yards
DD Isonami engages DD Phelps at 8,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Tucker at 8,000 yards
DD Cushing engages DD Hayashio at 8,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Perkins at 8,000 yards
DD Conyngham engages DD Natsushio at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
BB Idaho engages BB Hyuga at 13,000 yards
BB Nagato engages BB Nevada at 13,000 yards
BB Nagato engages CA Australia at 13,000 yards
BB Nagato engages CA Wichita at 13,000 yards
BB Idaho engages CA Furutaka at 13,000 yards
CA Furutaka engages CL Cleveland at 13,000 yards
DD Isonami engages DD Nepal at 13,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Dale at 13,000 yards
DD Natsugumo engages DD Nepal at 13,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Perkins at 13,000 yards
DD Shaw engages DD Wakaba at 13,000 yards
BB Nagato engages APD Kilty at 13,000 yards
CA Furutaka engages APD Stringham at 13,000 yards
Range increases to 18,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages BB Idaho at 18,000 yards
BB Ise engages BB Idaho at 18,000 yards
BB Nagato engages CA Australia at 18,000 yards
BB Nagato engages CA Wichita at 18,000 yards
BB Nagato engages CA Vincennes at 18,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Cleveland at 18,000 yards
DD Cushing engages DD Isonami at 18,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Benham at 18,000 yards
DD Natsugumo engages DD Phelps at 18,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Cushing at 18,000 yards
DD Conyngham engages DD Natsushio at 18,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Shaw at 18,000 yards
DD Conyngham engages DD Hayashio at 18,000 yards
Range increases to 22,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages BB Idaho at 22,000 yards
BB Idaho engages BB Ise at 22,000 yards
BB Nagato engages CA Wichita at 22,000 yards
BB Idaho engages CA Furutaka at 22,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages BB Idaho at 22,000 yards
BB Idaho engages DD Isonami at 22,000 yards
DD Natsugumo engages DD Phelps at 22,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages DD Shaw at 22,000 yards
BB Ise engages DD Conyngham at 22,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages DD Chevalier at 22,000 yards
Range increases to 24,000 yards
BB Idaho engages BB Hyuga at 24,000 yards
BB Nevada engages BB Ise at 24,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages BB Idaho at 24,000 yards
BB Idaho engages CA Furutaka at 24,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages DD Tucker at 24,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages DD Cushing at 24,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages DD Shaw at 24,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages DD Conyngham at 24,000 yards
BB Ise engages DD Benham at 24,000 yards
Range increases to 27,000 yards
BB Ise engages BB Idaho at 27,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages CA Australia at 27,000 yards
BB Idaho engages CA Furutaka at 27,000 yards
BB Idaho engages CA Kinugasa at 27,000 yards
BB Ise engages DD Dale at 27,000 yards
BB Ise engages DD Cushing at 27,000 yards
BB Ise engages DD Shaw at 27,000 yards
Task forces break off...

Mississippi ate about 3 18.1" hits, and one of the cruisers took another. This is what I wish my KB encounter was earlier in the game. Kaga's hosed. Two of her hits were fuel explosions. She ain't gonna make it back. Hiyo, Ryujo and Zuiho are also most likely dead, given IJA damage control. The second encounter was with his older battleships. I've seen most of mine are more likely to resist major hits than his did. Mississippi was beat up enough from the first fight that she separated and missed the second.

Then daylight came...

One thing to notice. If you have more than one TF in a hex, the strikes seem to transcend any target groups and hit the bunch as a whole, which is probably good for the defender.

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Gisborne at 122,187

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 50
B5N2 Kate x 24
B6N2 Jill x 7
D4Y1 Judy x 38

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 5 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 7 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 2 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 1 destroyed by flak
D4Y1 Judy: 5 damaged
D4Y1 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Lexington, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Pensacola, Bomb hits 3, on fire
CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
DD Stack

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
10 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
6 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet
8 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
5 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet
7 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
7 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
10 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet
14 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
2 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
3 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet
2 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
2 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet
7 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet
2 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VF-2 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 12 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes

quote:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Gisborne at 123,188

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D4Y1 Judy x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y1 Judy: 10 damaged
D4Y1 Judy: 3 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..

quote:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Gisborne at 121,187

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D4Y1 Judy x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AV Tangier, Bomb hits 2, on fire
TK British Princess, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AVD Mackinac, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK Fosna, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
AVD Hulbert, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Forbes Hauptmann, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AV Tangier
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK British Princess
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AVD Mackinac
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AVD Hulbert

quote:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Gisborne at 119,188

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 15

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2 Jill: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
SC-632
xAKL Kailua
AG Viti
TK Gulfbreeze

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

CAP engaged:
VF-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 13000.
Raid is overhead

quote:

Morning Air attack on TF, near Gisborne at 122,188

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 80
B5N2 Kate x 92
B6N2 Jill x 51
D4Y1 Judy x 148

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 77
F6F-3 Hellcat x 57

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 8 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 18 destroyed, 8 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 5 destroyed by flak
B6N2 Jill: 5 destroyed, 5 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 3 destroyed by flak
D4Y1 Judy: 17 destroyed, 17 damaged
D4Y1 Judy: 4 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 14 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB North Carolina, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CV Hornet, Bomb hits 2, on fire
CV Saratoga, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
CVE Long Island, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CVE Altamaha, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Sangamon, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CVE Chenango, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CVE Nassau, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
BB Indiana, Torpedo hits 1
CVE Copahee, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Prince William, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Nashville, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Gillespie
DD O'Bannon
CV Lexington
CA San Francisco
DD Mahan
DD Cummings
DD Wilson

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
19 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
3 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
13 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
5 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg GP Bomb
9 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
11 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
17 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
10 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
17 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
7 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
7 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg GP Bomb
15 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
14 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
1 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
2 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
2 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg GP Bomb
5 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
2 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
7 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg GP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
2 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
7 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
7 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg GP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg GP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VRF-2F with F4F-4 Wildcat (15 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
(18 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
15 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-3F with F4F-4 Wildcat (4 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
VRF-5F with F4F-4 Wildcat (8 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 2000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
VMF-111 with F4F-4 Wildcat (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-2 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
VF-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
VF-8 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
VF-35 with F4F-4 Wildcat (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 4 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-37 with F6F-3 Hellcat (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 7 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-1F with F4F-4 Wildcat (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 6 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers

Fuel storage explosion on CVE Long Island
Ammo storage explosion on CVE Altamaha
Ammo storage explosion on CVE Nassau
Ammo storage explosion on CVE Chenango
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Copahee
Ammo storage explosion on CVE Long Island
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Nassau
Fuel storage explosion on CVE Sangamon
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Sangamon
Ammo storage explosion on CVE Sangamon
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring a Long Island class CVE
Ammo storage explosion on CVE Sangamon
Fuel storage explosion on CVE Sangamon
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Hornet
Ammo storage explosion on CVE Prince William

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Gisborne at 122,188

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N1 Jill x 16

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 50
F6F-3 Hellcat x 45

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N1 Jill: 8 destroyed

No Allied losses

CAP engaged:
VF-2 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(11 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
VF-8 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes
VRF-2F with F4F-4 Wildcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(18 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 82 minutes
VRF-3F with F4F-4 Wildcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 68 minutes
VRF-5F with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
VF-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 68 minutes
VMF-111 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 97 minutes
VF-37 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
VRF-1F with F4F-4 Wildcat (3 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
VF-35 with F4F-4 Wildcat (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Gisborne at 122,188

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 17
B5N2 Kate x 30
B6N2 Jill x 11
D4Y1 Judy x 35

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 6 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
B6N2 Jill: 3 damaged
D4Y1 Judy: 20 damaged
D4Y1 Judy: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 13 destroyed
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 1 destroyed
SOC-1 Seagull: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB North Carolina, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Altamaha, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Gillespie
CL Honolulu
CV Saratoga, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
CVE Copahee, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk
CV Hornet, on fire
CL Nashville, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
BB Indiana, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk
DD Duncan
DD Radford, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
14 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
16 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
5 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
11 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
8 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
12 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..
Fuel storage explosion on CVE Altamaha
Ammo storage explosion on CVE Copahee
Ammo storage explosion on CVE Copahee
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Radford

My return strike.

quote:

Morning Air attack on TF, near Gisborne at 124,186

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 118

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 42
SBD-3 Dauntless x 29
TBF-1 Avenger x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak
TBF-1 Avenger: 3 destroyed
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu
CV Soryu

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
1 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp.
1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
11 planes vectored on to bombers
Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
Zuikaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
11 planes vectored on to bombers
Taiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
12 planes vectored on to bombers
Unryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
16 planes vectored on to bombers
Amagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
15 planes vectored on to bombers

The upsetting part is that less than one carrier's worth of my aircraft went after his ships. I should have given him the same treatment. This is outright bad luck on my end. I know there's the coordination issue with the USN, but at least they could have flown.

What happens next will probably depend on CF's move. Both of us have busted up ships all over the place. The lesser half of KB did get ravaged good. Most of my battleships here are in dire straits, and a number of them probably won't live out the next day. North Carolina can only make three knots. My fleet carriers are savable if they can reach port safely. Most of the air groups did recover in New Zealand. I have a bunch of fighters at Gisborne LRCAPping my carriers. I don't think I have any CVEs left. Most of his planes did go after them rather than the fleet ships, so I'm lucky they're in the state they're in. At Gisborne, I have a bunch of dive bombers and TBFs with an escort and they'll probably sortie if he pursues. I'm also gathering up all the survivors to hit back if they get the chance.

If my big carriers get away, I'll treat this as a victory.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/13/2015 1:32:39 AM

Sangeli

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Better than what I had feared! That BB charge at night saved the day for you. You did a fair amount of damage on that charge taking out the slower CV/CVL of the IJN. A couple of them could sink. Not the best ships of the IJN but once their aircraft are in the air they pack as much punch as any Japanese CV.

At this point what you need to do I think is get your CVs disbanded in a port with as much air cover as possible. I wouldn't even bother letting those DB/TB fly since you're unlikely to get through CAP and you really need those fighters protecting your crippled CVs. If you can get them disbanded they become a lot harder to sink.

FYI you should really think about changing your surface force composition. I think the main principle is grouping ships with similar ranges and speed so putting slow BBs with fast CAs isn't the best fleet composition. But hey they got the job done so what do I really know?

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 6/13/2015 3:19:47 AM

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I can't comment on tactics but that was a hell of a battle!

Quite a show for the spectators! Good luck with your damaged ships.

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