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What happens in '45 - 3/17/2003 7:05:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's tough playing Japan. All you do is order a carrier from one city in Japan to another, and this is what happens...

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/01/45

Air attack on TF at 61,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 12

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 18
P-38J Lightning x 26
B-25J Mitchell x 19
B-24J Liberator x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke x 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N Warhawk x 1 destroyed
B-25J Mitchell x 1 destroyed
B-25J Mitchell x 6 damaged
B-24J Liberator x 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Aso, Bomb hits 1

And...

Air attack on TF at 61,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 11

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 4
P-38J Lightning x 4
B-25J Mitchell x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke x 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell x 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Aso

And...

Air attack on TF at 61,44

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 10

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 9
P-38J Lightning x 14
A-26B Invader x 11
B-24J Liberator x 3

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N Warhawk x 2 destroyed
A-26B Invader x 7 damaged
B-24J Liberator x 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Aso

And...


Sub attack at 61,44

Japanese Ships
CV Aso, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
SS Redfin



The poor Aso managed to survive, but this was quite disheartening.

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- 3/17/2003 7:33:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		P-40N Warhawk x 3 destroyed
A-26B Invader x 7 damaged
B-24J Liberator x 4 damaged
B-25J Mitchell x 1 destroyed
B-25J Mitchell x 9 damaged

In exchange for 4 planes destroyed, 20 dmg. Not much. The only option is to never let the USN planes be in range of coast of japan. Gotta hold new guinea and marianas no matter what. :)

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- 3/17/2003 7:50:04 AM   
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- 3/17/2003 8:59:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		If they allready have okinawa, it means you failed to hold the line in marianas/new guinea/etc.;)

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in 1945? - 3/17/2003 10:49:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Errr.... surely that should say 'P*47*N', not P40N Warhawk?

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- 3/17/2003 11:43:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't recall there ever being a P47N. The P40N was a later version of the redoubtable Warhawk and was still in use in 1945 (though I wouldn't want to use it to escort any valuable aircraft).

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- 3/17/2003 6:38:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Speaking of P-40's I saw one yesterday at a local airshow. Don't recall the model, but once I get the photos developed I should be able to tell. But oh man, did she sound great. They had her and a mark8 Spit doing runs over the field again and again, plus a wirraway and about 5 old texans. Nothing and I mean NOTHING beats the sound of a warbird!:cool:

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- 3/17/2003 6:47:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Raverdave
[B]Speaking of P-40's I saw one yesterday at a local airshow. Don't recall the model, but once I get the photos developed I should be able to tell. But oh man, did she sound great. They had her and a mark8 Spit doing runs over the field again and again, plus a wirraway and about 5 old texans. Nothing and I mean NOTHING beats the sound of a warbird!:cool: [/B][/QUOTE]

Oh I quite agree there with you Raverdane:) My father used to take me to airshows all over Europe when I was a kid, the ones in the UK are the best. Best memory was watching a B-17 fly....

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- 3/18/2003 6:29:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		You lucky bugger U2 ! There are no B-17s here in Oz:( so I have to content myself with watching the "Memphis Belle" over and over. There was supposed to be a CAC Boomerang, but she never made it down:( . The only LRB that we have here is the ol'd G for George which is a static display in the Australian war memorial, and a group whom are trying to re-build a B-24, but again, only as a static display.

It is amazing what you find in some places though. I have seen an ME163, an ME 262, and also a V-2, all war booty ! There is a museam close to me that has a Kittyhawk and a Beaufighter as static displays.

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Re: in 1945? - 3/26/2003 12:20:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by tohoku
[B]Errr.... surely that should say 'P*47*N', not P40N Warhawk? [/B][/QUOTE]

There was a P40N and a P47N.

P40N was the last major production model although latter designations were used for various modifications and such. Over 5000 were built.

P47N was the last model produced. Over 1500 of them and they served in the last year of the war in the Pacific escorting B-29s from Saipan to Japan.

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- 3/30/2003 11:59:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by U2
[B]Oh I quite agree there with you Raverdane:) My father used to take me to airshows all over Europe when I was a kid, the ones in the UK are the best. Best memory was watching a B-17 fly.... [/B][/QUOTE]

Hi U2,
Took my boy to an airshow at Luke AFB here in Phoenix just before the war. They had a Warhawk fly around. Too cool. But the best part was the Tora Tora Tora group. They had 2 A6M2's, 2 Vals and 2 Kates recreate the attack on PH. They did runs for about 15 min. Later they were parked and you could walk up to them. They also had a F117A in a resticted hangar. You could get to about 15 feet away before you hit the armed guards and signs saying deadly force is authorized... There was quite a crowd just in front of the sign.
A flying museum also here in town has a working B17G. We went to see it Memorial Day. We managed to get a spot on the grass at the end of the runway and got to see it take off right overhead. Ever since B17s have been my son's fav aircraft:) Couple weeks later went back and got a tour. That is one cramped airplane. I would have hated to be the tail gunner. I'll certainly never forget the sight of that B-17 take off.

Quark

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- 3/30/2003 6:26:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Quark
[B]We managed to get a spot on the grass at the end of the runway and got to see it take off right overhead. Ever since B17s have been my son's fav aircraft:)
Quark [/B][/QUOTE]


Ah mate ! That would have been pure magic!:cool:

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- 4/7/2003 4:27:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Don't know if its the same one but theres a B-17 that flys into Boeing Field here in Seattle from time to time. What a beauty.

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- 4/7/2003 5:05:46 AM   
Philwd

 

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Status: offline 		It could be. Its gone from May till Sept at airshows. Reminds me only 2 weeks left till it leaves. Should stop by once more this season.

Cheers,
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- 4/21/2003 6:09:13 AM   
Micah Goodman

 

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Status: offline 		For any of you who travel to Houston Texas there is the Lone Star Flight Museum located in Galveston (30 miles south of Houston) and they have a B-17, a P-38 and many other great birds. Several times a year I have seen B-17’s practicing around Ellington Field (located in south Houston) flying circular flight paths over the city. The museum is one of the best I have seen and has cheap ticket prices.

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- 4/21/2003 7:48:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		There's an outfit out of Texas that used to call itself the "Confederate Air Force," but decided that was socially incorrect in recent years, so now they are known as the "Commemorative Air Force." They maintain over 100 WWII vintage aircraft, including an A6M2, two D3As, an A-20, and other treasures. I saw them in Minneapolis, Minnesota a few years ago, and they put on a great show. If you ever get to see them, be sure to take advantage of the opportunity. One of their bits is a re-enactment of the Pearl Harbor attack with a few authentic Japanese aircraft (and some old U.S. junk, like AT-6s, painted up in IJN colors) staged in front of the audience area with planted fireworks going off in the supposed attack area. One of the highlights is their re-enactment of the landing of the B-17 that came in after the attack with its right landing gear up.

CHeck 'em out. Their Web site is [url]www.confederateairforce.org/[/url]

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- 4/21/2003 9:17:31 AM   
Micah Goodman

 

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Status: offline 		I had a friend that was in the CAF and they used to have jackets that said something along the lines of, “Confederate Air Force crew member if found unconscious revive with mint julep and send them south.” They had a Confederate flag and a U.S. flag displayed across the back similar to the old AVG jackets. In today’s PC society they no longer issue them. They are a great organization and most of them donate their time and money to help keep many old war birds flying. On a side note he told me that all of the Zero model airplanes used in the air shows are actually not original Zero’s. All of the original Zero’s were destroyed after the war. The ones seen today were made for the movie Tora, Tora, Tora. I was not sure if I believed him but if you ever get a chance to see one at an Air Show look at the engine, I have looked at three and all of them had Pratt and Whitney engines in them.

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- 4/21/2003 10:19:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes. I believe all the Zeros, Vals, and Kates are modified Texans, built for the movie Tora Tora Tora. I think they were also used for the 1970's TV show BaBa Blacksheep. A tell tale sign for the Zero are the shape of the wing. The mock-ups have swept back wings. I do believe I read there is one flyalbe authentic Zero in existance somewhere.

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- 4/22/2003 2:49:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		The local Olympic Air Museum has one of the Tora, Tora, Tora Zeros. I forget what airframe they said it was, but I believe that it was the Texan. These guys have a Warbird show every June and it is a joy to see all the old stuff come in. The prettiest plane last year was a gorgeous red (of course!)Yak-11.

I'll never forget the time I came out of the downtown post office to hear an unfamiliar roar overhead. Looking up, I was thrilled to see the B-17 "Nine-O-Nine" (I found out later, on visiting them) flying overhead towards our little air field. That year they also had a B-24, but technical problems prevented it from taking off on schedule, so I never got to see her fly.

I also recall seeing a warbird show in southeastern Florida (Melbourne?) where they had a mock bombing run by two B25s (plywood mock buildings in the center of the filed rigged with explosive charges). It was a little silly, but cool...

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- 4/22/2003 8:35:19 AM   
Micah Goodman

 

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Status: offline 		As there is only one flyable B-24 left it is a rare treat to see it fly. The last time I saw it was in the late eighties at an air show in Houston. At the time I saw the plane it was painted that pinkish tan color the USAAF used for planes based in North Africa. I do not recall the planes name.

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- 4/22/2003 8:47:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are a nominally flyable B24 and B29 at PASM (Pima Air and Space Museum) in Tucson. No one flys them, however, owing to the rarity of specimens in top repair.

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- 4/22/2003 10:00:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Evidently I live in a historical aircraftless part of the country. I saw a Stealth Fighter fly over my yard very low once, though.

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- 4/23/2003 3:16:49 AM   
Micah Goodman

 

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Status: offline 		My most memorable moment with an airplane occurred when I was stationed at Ft. Hood back in the mid 90’s. We were out playing our normal army games and all day an air force unit had been practicing air to ground attack maneuvers by buzzing our tanks and APC’s. Well being the gunner on an M1A1 Abrams I heard them but never saw them. Well at the end of the day me and a few other soldiers had to go pick up the land mines that had been used that day. Don’t worry these were training mines that were blocks of circular concrete painted blue. Well we took a break for lunch and were sitting on the side of a dirt road when we all looked up just in time to see a F-16 Falcon dive bomb us. I could actually see the pilots face and felt the heat from the exhaust of his jet as he pulled up because he was so low. Strangely enough the thing I remember thinking to my self at first was, “man those running lights are bright on that guy’s plane.”

It made me real glad the U.S. Air Force was on my side let me tell you!

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- 4/23/2003 8:40:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		I saw one of the handful of flyable F7F Tigercats at a local airshow a couple of summers ago. It was quite a performance - he kept it way down low and right over the runway (i.e., in perfect position for us gawking planewatchers in the crowd), and just beat the place up. He really aerobatted the heck outta that thing. IIRC, he got the biggest round of applause of the day when he eventually turned onto final (at least until the Harrier demonstration)(which really isn't playing fair, IMO).

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