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Wall Street Journal 1942 Japan Strengths - 7/15/2015 2:23:07 PM   
bartrat


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Not a bad summation especially since it was written in 1942!

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RE: Wall Street Journal 1942 Japan Strengths - 7/15/2015 2:40:02 PM   
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http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/zero.pdf

Not a bad summation especially since it was written in 1942!


Nice find! Can you post the follow-on detailing Japanese military weaknesses as well?

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RE: Wall Street Journal 1942 Japan Strengths - 7/15/2015 3:08:27 PM   
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RE: Wall Street Journal 1942 Japan Strengths - 7/15/2015 3:40:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, considering the times a good article. A bit naive at times (I don't think the Canadian boots vs Japanese shoes made much of a difference..) but also reflected of the relative freedom of the American press at the time compared to other combatants. The article is thought out and really does not smack of propaganda or racial fear mongering. Of course it was the Times but still..

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RE: Wall Street Journal 1942 Japan Strengths - 7/15/2015 4:00:55 PM   
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RE: Wall Street Journal 1942 Japan Strengths - 7/15/2015 4:38:06 PM   
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Of course it was the Times but still..


Not to put too fine a point on it, but it was not the NYT, but rather the WSJ.

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RE: Wall Street Journal 1942 Japan Strengths - 7/15/2015 4:50:27 PM   
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Also naive to think that the US was refraining from espionage.




...which indicates that the US espionage efforts was, in fact, working as intended. A few critical gaps existed, but still... :)

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RE: Wall Street Journal 1942 Japan Strengths - 7/15/2015 7:09:44 PM   
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Also naive to think that the US was refraining from espionage.


Noticed that too. By September 1942, we had well and truly cracked most of their important naval codes. Better to keep the public in the dark than to proclaim this advance.

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RE: Wall Street Journal 1942 Japan Strengths - 7/15/2015 7:50:49 PM   
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Of course it was the Times but still..


Not to put too fine a point on it, but it was not the NYT, but rather the WSJ.



C'mon Chickenboy. You say 'not to put too fine a point on it' when you're about to hit someone over the head with an iron skillet. He made an easy mistake. I always make my mistakes difficult.

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RE: Wall Street Journal 1942 Japan Strengths - 7/15/2015 8:14:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Back in the '80s I decided to subscribe to a major newspaper. I decided to subscribe to two papers and figure out which to get long term. I knew the Washington Post would be good in certain categories I was interested in, but its coverage was relatively narrow. So I got the NYT and the WSJ coming to me for about 3 months. I was extremely favorably impressed by the WSJ. I thought it might be just like an expanded business section of the Post-Dispatch with some political op-eds by substantial writers. Science was an important qualifying category and the WSJ was superlative although being somewhat limited in graphics, especially color. I also considered taking a look at the Los Angeles Times but felt the news from it would be obsolete by the time I read it. In the end the NYT won because of its coverage of the arts (book reviews in particular) and well, the NYT crossword puzzle, which is like heroin to me. I haven't tried an issue of the WSJ since Murdoch bought it so I can't say what may have happened to it, just what I would suspect. As I understand the LA Times has fallen on hard times. I also looked at a few issues of the Christian Science Monitor and it was quite impressive also, but didn't make it to the finals.

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RE: Wall Street Journal 1942 Japan Strengths - 7/15/2015 9:41:05 PM   
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Hard to believe, at one point in life, the paper was the first thing I grabbed as soon as the coffee brewed.

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RE: Wall Street Journal 1942 Japan Strengths - 7/15/2015 10:29:16 PM   
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I haven't tried an issue of the WSJ since Murdoch bought it so I can't say what may have happened to it


I've subscribed for years. A superlative daily. None better for business and national daily news. The Economist is where I get my international bent. Great news magazine, but just too much to keep up with every single...flipping...magazine. I'm perpetually about 2-3 weeks behind.

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RE: Wall Street Journal 1942 Japan Strengths - 7/15/2015 11:30:36 PM   
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I don't think I've subscribed to an actual printed newspaper of any kind in almost 20 years.

Hard to believe, at one point in life, the paper was the first thing I grabbed as soon as the coffee brewed.

Regards,
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I've thought about subscribing to our local small town paper which comes out once a week. I thought it might keep us apprised of what's going on around here. There have been some interesting events that I only heard about after they happened. I had a subscription to the local paper in Seattle for several years, but I dropped it not long after getting online. I could get all the news I wanted from any source I wanted instantaneously and I didn't have to deal with getting rid of the newspapers afterwards. It is a minor drag when you have some use for newspaper, like to put under something, and there is none around, but I have stockpiled some packing paper from packages that usually fits the bill.

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RE: Wall Street Journal 1942 Japan Strengths - 7/16/2015 1:57:16 PM   
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Yes, considering the times a good article. A bit naive at times (I don't think the Canadian boots vs Japanese shoes made much of a difference..) b...


I have to agree that on the surface this sounds a bit naive.
But .... I remember being out at Camp Pendleton decades ago for Battalion field exercises (with the US Army NG - not Marines), and Charlie & Bravo companies of our battalion were assigned to attack us (Alpha) on our hilltop around midnight.
They had to descend a hill mass over a mile away (after dark) and cross a valley to get to the slope of the hill we were defending.

The point is, I was amazed that in the darkness and a mile away, they made enough clear movement noise that I could pinpoint their progress by hearing alone - all the way from their departure on their hilltop - to their arrival at the foot of our hill.

So- the point in this article of Canadians making noise - to their disadvantage - has the ring of truth in it to me...apocalyptic as it may sound.

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RE: Wall Street Journal 1942 Japan Strengths - 7/16/2015 2:22:45 PM   
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Of course it was the Times but still..


Not to put too fine a point on it, but it was not the NYT, but rather the WSJ.



C'mon Chickenboy. You say 'not to put too fine a point on it' when you're about to hit someone over the head with an iron skillet. He made an easy mistake. I always make my mistakes difficult.


Yeah, they guy is friggen brutal...


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RE: Wall Street Journal 1942 Japan Strengths - 7/17/2015 2:11:40 AM   
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RE: Wall Street Journal 1942 Japan Strengths - 7/17/2015 8:21:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was NOT able to find the other articles in his series on line. Would need a GOOD library with 1942-1943 issues of WSJ.

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RE: Wall Street Journal 1942 Japan Strengths - 7/18/2015 1:34:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		great WSJ article find Bartrat. The article was pretty spot on.

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