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RE: 1944 July 28 - 8/1/2015 2:51:31 PM

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Thanks. Daito Shoto can also be shut down by B-29 so no naval bombardments are wasted when they are needed most at Okinawa.

Waste of B29s I think.

How many combat B29 squadrons do you have in striking range of the Empire? What are their sizes in planes?

That would only be a one day or two day mission.

Here is all of them, including new arrivals on their way to the front. IIRC there are none currently on rail transit.

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RE: 1944 July 28 - 8/1/2015 3:08:34 PM

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Thanks so much.

See the 498th 847th BS? 10 planes, good to go. Switch them over to night, and have them pick a 2nd tier city that you have recon on and see what they can do at 7K or 8K depending upon guns there.

Given the crushing levels of troops cut off, you may think about targeting his vehicles? Conversely, you may want to simply start fires, or target his plane factories. Up to you really, but how about a night test?

Or send a squadron to the far west to strike deep inside China.

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RE: 1944 July 28 - 8/1/2015 3:31:57 PM

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Thanks so much.

See the 498th 847th BS? 10 planes, good to go. That one plus the 870th are new arrivals not yet in combat (870th has 3 planes still in transit at Hawaii). Switch them over to night, and have them pick a 2nd tier city that you have recon on and see what they can do at 7K or 8K depending upon guns there. Not an HR, but I want to wait as long as possible before switching B-29 to night bombing or doing both night and day bombing. I've been thinking about two things on that point, one is commencing at least some night bombing on January 1, 1945 and the other is commencing night bombing when day bombing got just too costly. I forgot to mention that Singapore now has only a few fighters and some auxiliary types. I think the combination of racing up the coast of Indochina (now well over 100 fighters at Hanoi) plus the effectiveness of the first few raids on the Home Islands has prompted redeployment of fighters.

Given the crushing levels of troops cut off, you may think about targeting his vehicles? I thought about this but wasn't sure how effective destroying them would be? You suggest it so likely it would matter. Conversely, you may want to simply start fires Doing that so far., or target his plane factories. Have to sort out what to target. I have some work to do there. Up to you really, but how about a night test? See above. I'm not defeated on day strikes yet, but those were painful. I suspect that if the entire mob had flown on one day the losses (two day total = 49) would have been about 25 with possibly greater damage done. In hindsight I should have stood down the base that did not fly until the first base was ready again. I wanted to try it and see. I tried it and I saw!

Or send a squadron to the far west to strike deep inside China. I already hit what industry I could from India and Burma when the B-29 groups first arrived. With Quinhon the B-24 groups can get Hong Kong and Canton, but bringing back some B-29 to hit deeper is an option after that has been accomplished.

I figured I would start with Manpower strikes on the Home Islands because it would maximize the damage done, whereas targeting a specific factory would result in more bombs being clean misses. That's the impression I have of how it works, hope that's correct.

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RE: 1944 July 28 - 8/1/2015 3:52:02 PM

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Not sure if Chungking has been partially repaired or if I never finished it off for whatever reason. It can be hit by B-29-1 from Akyab (22 hexes), or by B-24 from Hanoi (14 hexes). There are also a number of LI and HI targets that can be hit from Hanoi.

Tourane, Hue, and Vinh are all 13 hexes from Hong Kong and so can serve as bases for fighter sweeps, which will be important to preserve the B-24 groups. After destroying the LI and HI at Hong Kong and Canton the B-24s can hit the airfields to try and get supply hits until they have bases to hit other LI and HI targets.

I have additional base forces a few days out from Uttaradit. When I have enough air support there the plan is to launch several squadrons of P-47/Thunderbolt, P-51, and P-38 from Uttaradit, Moulmein, and Quinhon to sweep the (presently) 123x fighters at Hanoi. This is a way of indirectly supporting the Hong Kong/Canton operation before the closer sweep bases are ready.

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RE: 1944 July 28 - 8/1/2015 4:06:07 PM

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Meant to add:

No more B-29-1 groups are listed to arrive.

There is one B-29B group arriving in 41 days. That is the night-specific model with very few guns, so I will definitely run night missions with that group as soon as it is available, although it won't get replacements until March of '45.

It will be October before B-29-25 groups begin arriving. That plane has ranges of 31/38, as opposed to 28/35 for the B-29-1 currently in service. Saipan and Tinian will still be an extended range flight to the Home Islands, but all of Kyushu and all but the two northernmost bases on Honshu will be within range. That will be important to spread out the Empire's defenses.

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RE: 1944 July 28 - 8/1/2015 6:42:40 PM

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Nice to see a realistic Allied show at this point of the war. I'm not an AFB or JFB, just call me a realist in that I like to see some semblance to history. I think you can definitely say that you've done better than the real-life Allies at this date in the war against a very good Japanese opponent.

Have you considered just driving up the coast into China as your main effort? I haven't followed closely enough to determine what's left of the Combined fleet (I cite only for purposes of the HI assault), but it you were to take staging points in China and Taiwan, perhaps you could bypass Okinawa and base your B-29s on the mainland. It would certainly preserve the fleet from kamis until you need to invade Japan itself.

Needless to say, I think you may have found the weak point to the Japanese in this game. I'd argue the new Allied norm might entail hitting the DEI, jumping to Indochina and driving up into China. The historic strategy of Marianas, Iwo, Okinawa coupled with B29s smashing the empire doesn't work. Allied land units outclass Japanese at this stage, makes sense to me to exploit. You also starve the empire of resources by taking the mainland.

EDIT: Taiwan thought; I like the idea of taking the island as a precursor to Okinawa. Not an expert by any means, but I would imagine you could base a good number of air assets here. I still like the drive into China though.

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RE: 1944 July 28 - 8/1/2015 6:45:06 PM

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Did Mikuma survive?

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RE: 1944 July 28 - 8/1/2015 8:41:37 PM

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Did Mikuma survive?

Afloat when last seen.

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RE: 1944 July 28 - 8/1/2015 9:11:16 PM

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Nice to see a realistic Allied show at this point of the war. I'm not an AFB or JFB, just call me a realist in that I like to see some semblance to history. I think you can definitely say that you've done better than the real-life Allies at this date in the war against a very good Japanese opponent.

Have you considered just driving up the coast into China as your main effort? I haven't followed closely enough to determine what's left of the Combined fleet (I cite only for purposes of the HI assault), but it you were to take staging points in China and Taiwan, perhaps you could bypass Okinawa and base your B-29s on the mainland. It would certainly preserve the fleet from kamis until you need to invade Japan itself.

Needless to say, I think you may have found the weak point to the Japanese in this game. I'd argue the new Allied norm might entail hitting the DEI, jumping to Indochina and driving up into China. The historic strategy of Marianas, Iwo, Okinawa coupled with B29s smashing the empire doesn't work. Allied land units outclass Japanese at this stage, makes sense to me to exploit. You also starve the empire of resources by taking the mainland.

EDIT: Taiwan thought; I like the idea of taking the island as a precursor to Okinawa. Not an expert by any means, but I would imagine you could base a good number of air assets here. I still like the drive into China though.

Going back several turns/pages I laid out the broad strokes. Here is most of it in one place:
� Most of the SEAC ground strength will drive down the peninsula to Singapore.
� Most of the SWPac ground strength, along with the expatriate parts of the Chinese Army, will drive into China.
� SWPac will primarily focus on coastal regions.
� Chinese Army will primarily move inland.
� Ground elements of SoPac and PacAO that have so far been seconded to SEAC will form the nucleus of the Formosa invasion.
� B-24, and perhaps B-29, strikes will destroy LI and HI ahead of the advance to deny supply to the Empire.
� The Okinawa invasion forces are fully prepared, although not marshaled. Okinawa is the next major amphibious operation, awaiting repair and upgrade of various combat vessels.

Some comments on your points/questions/suggestions above (in no particular order).
� Walter is a very tough opponent! And aggressive. I might well have secured the center of China but he... just... kept... coming!
� 'China main effort... bypass Okinawa... base B-29s on the mainland' - The big problem with this approach to getting B-29 bases closer to the Home Islands is that it will (IMO) take too long.
� 'the new Allied norm might entail hitting the DEI, jumping to Indochina and driving up into China.' - I think others have done this. I'm not even sure that the drive mostly through the DEI (and sort of less "into" if you see my meaning) is new. The course of every game is unique, and it worked out well in this game. The best way to phrase this is in terms of time. If the Allies' advance were later than I was able to start, or started much farther back, then the choices would be much harder and the opposition stiffer (newer Imperial aircraft, etc.). Many AARs show an Allied player struggling at this point or later with getting their B-29s into range of Japan. If I were in that situation I doubt I could have afforded the resources to effect trapping the Empire's more forward Asian armies. Hitting and/or cutting off the DEI is definitely a key strategy that the Japanese player must defend against. BTW, just remember that HI generated in the DEI can be used by factories anywhere on the map because it just goes straight into a global pool.
� 'Taiwan thought; I like the idea of taking the island as a precursor to Okinawa.' - Maybe in another game, but here the Formosa forces have just begun preparing and have a long way to go while the Okinawa forces are fully prepared. Just a consequence of the Formosa plan being purely a opportunistic decision on my part. It was not part of the plan earlier.
� I figure that Okinawa plus the drive up the coast of China will pull defenders away from Formosa, if that hasn't already happened.

I'm sure I left out a lot!

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1944 July 30 - 8/4/2015 5:28:48 AM

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1944 July 30

The Empire captured:

The Allies captured:

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:

There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:
Saumlaki

Imperial Naval Bombardments at:

Allied Naval Bombardments at:

Our subs are so bored they are considering moving to another AAR.

Quiet in China.

Mostly maneuvering for the SEAC forces advancing. Two more Imperial units crossed the river SE of Chiang Mai and had to shock attack.

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Ground combat at 59,54 (near Chiang Mai)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 11594 troops, 125 guns, 65 vehicles, Assault Value = 344

Defending force 2939 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 119

Japanese adjusted assault: 76

Allied adjusted defense: 652

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 8

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
2522 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 200 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 19 (2 destroyed, 17 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
100 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
14th Division
146th Infantry Regiment
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
14th LRP Brigade

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Th 14th is holding without working up a sweat. Due to the horrible nature of the road (rail bed) in that area the other units are moving up at a snail's pace but I am sure they will be in time.

One of our attacks in the wilderness went well, the other was stymied.

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Ground combat at 63,59 (near Vinh)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 702 troops, 3 guns, 130 vehicles, Assault Value = 69

Defending force 1352 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10

Allied adjusted assault: 59

Japanese adjusted defense: 13

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
370 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
775th Tank Battalion

Defending units:
52nd JNAF AF Unit

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Ground combat at 62,58 (near Udon Thani)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 552 troops, 3 guns, 82 vehicles, Assault Value = 49

Defending force 1582 troops, 11 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 9

Allied adjusted assault: 39

Japanese adjusted defense: 25

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
640th Tank Destroyer Battalion

Defending units:
4th Naval Construction Battalion
41st JAAF AF Bn

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It will be several days before the armor and infantry moving by truck arrives at Udon Thani, organizes, then moves to support their attack. The TD Bn will continue attacking in the meantime. The 775th (nearer to Vinh) was bombed ineffectively by Vals from Hanoi.

Operations continue slowly at Dili and Ternate. Movement continues on Borneo (toward Bandjermasin, Miri, and Beaufort). Saumlaki will be seized tomorrow. Today is D-2 for Ulithi.

I disbanded some B-29 groups that withdraw in October to get the group count down, and of course the planes help to fill out other groups. Started checking ranges from Moulmein. Size 9 with lots of air support to spare, maybe I can hit a bunch of LI (and some HI) farther behind the lines in China with B-29s when the B-24s hit Hong Kong.

One is still on fire.

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RE: 1944 July 30 - 8/4/2015 5:29:30 AM

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Damage is still slowly piling up at Osaka/Kyoto.

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RE: 1944 July 30 - 8/4/2015 5:29:53 AM

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RE: 1944 July 30 - 8/4/2015 5:30:20 AM

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Indochina, et al.

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RE: 1944 July 30 - 8/4/2015 6:27:39 PM

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At 87 System/46 Float/65 Fires Breton is not going to make it unless you can afford to assign a couple of cruisers to help firefighting and even then they will need a miracle. Better put lifejackets on those Hellcats and push them over the side ...

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RE: 1944 July 30 - 8/4/2015 6:55:45 PM

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At 87 System/46 Float/65 Fires Breton is not going to make it unless you can afford to assign a couple of cruisers to help firefighting and even then they will need a miracle. Better put lifejackets on those Hellcats and push them over the side ...

I was thinking the same thing...

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RE: 1944 July 30 - 8/4/2015 7:39:48 PM

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At 87 System/46 Float/65 Fires Breton is not going to make it unless you can afford to assign a couple of cruisers to help firefighting and even then they will need a miracle. Better put lifejackets on those Hellcats and push them over the side ...

I was thinking the same thing...

It's in port!

Brunei, size 3. No naval support there. Crossing my fingers is all.

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1944 July 31 - 8/5/2015 6:51:44 PM

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1944 July 31

The Empire captured:

The Allies captured:
Saumlaki

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:

There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:

Imperial Naval Bombardments at:

Allied Naval Bombardments at:
Allied Ships Bombarding Dili
Allied Ships Bombarding Peleliu

Our subs saw action! One unsuccessfully attacked a surface combat TF in the South China Sea. Another sub in the Straits of Malacca got an xAK but was pounded brutally for the success.

Quiet in China.

The Empire conducted a recon bombardment across the river from Chiang Mai.

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Ground combat at 59,54 (near Chiang Mai)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 210 troops, 21 guns, 20 vehicles, Assault Value = 148

Defending force 2868 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 108

Assaulting units:
14th Division
146th Infantry Regiment
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
14th LRP Brigade

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Our units continue to maneuver to achieve final encirclement of several units and pockets of units. Armour has caught Imperial units north of Ayuthia and will attack tomorrow to retreat them into that city. Our armoured car unit on the road from Taung Gyi, always faster on the road than the infantry, has caught up to the enemy. However only one unit is seen instead of two, so they will attack alone to maximize the pressure. They should have friends in hex the day after tomorrow.

The attack north of Udon Thani is wearing away at the Japanese there. The TD Bn does need to rest tomorrow, though.

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Ground combat at 62,58 (near Udon Thani)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 528 troops, 3 guns, 82 vehicles, Assault Value = 46

Defending force 1530 troops, 11 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 10

Allied adjusted assault: 36

Japanese adjusted defense: 29

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
87 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled

Assaulting units:
640th Tank Destroyer Battalion

Defending units:
4th Naval Construction Battalion
41st JAAF AF Bn

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North of Hue will finally see an attack tomorrow. A TD Bn is in position near Vinh so that retreat from near Hue will be allowed tomorrow, but the day after the TD Bn will cut the road. A Tank Rgt that participates in tomorrow's attack will race NW after the attack to cut off the only other land hex while the main force pursues and destroys the retreating Imperials when they are finally fixed in place. There is at least one Imperial unit unit south from Vinh but the TD Bn coupled with air strikes already underway should hold them off long enough. We now have a Tank Rgt at Siem Reap and will seize the city shortly. Tomorrow a TD Bn (just released from loan to SEAC) will arrive at Chanthaburi on coast of the gulf of Siam. Those events mean that over at Battambang the only retreat left open will be along the road toward Ayuthia, so our forces there will attack tomorrow.

An IJN surface combat TF sortied from Singapore and ran into Allied air from Jesselton.

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Sub attack near Groot Natoena at 57,84

Japanese Ships
CA Tone
CL Kuma
DD Yudachi
DD Akebono
DD Fubuki

Allied Ships
SS Bashaw, hits 6

SS Bashaw launches 4 torpedoes at CA Tone
Bashaw bottoming out ....
DD Akebono attacking submerged sub ....
DD Fubuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Akebono fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akebono fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akebono fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akebono fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akebono fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Groot Natoena at 60,84

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 69 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 15
SBD-5 Dauntless x 32

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 15 damaged
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CL Kuma, Bomb hits 2
DD Yudachi, Bomb hits 1
CA Tone, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
16 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CA Tone

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Groot Natoena at 60,84

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Allied aircraft
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 17

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Wakaba
CA Tone
CL Kuma

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
9 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Groot Natoena at 60,84

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 57 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Allied aircraft
TBF-1 Avenger x 18

Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 5 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Tone, on fire
CL Kuma, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp.

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A naval bombardment by the entire extant Dutch surface combat fleet made a difference at Dili.

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Night Naval bombardment of Dili at 71,115

Allied Ships
CL De Ruyter
DD Van Ghent
DD Banckert
DD Van Nes
DD Witte de With
DD Evertsen
DD Piet Hein

Japanese ground losses:
88 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 29
Port hits 10
Port fuel hits 4
Port supply hits 1

CL De Ruyter firing at Dili
DD Van Ghent firing at 24th Nav Gsn Unit
DD Banckert firing at Dili
DD Van Nes firing at 24th Nav Gsn Unit
DD Witte de With firing at Dili
DD Evertsen firing at Dili
DD Piet Hein firing at Dili

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Ground combat at Dili (71,115)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4506 troops, 69 guns, 90 vehicles, Assault Value = 115

Defending force 5993 troops, 52 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 128

Japanese ground losses:
180 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
30th Australian Brigade
Provisional GMC Grp

Defending units:
2nd Recon Regiment
57th Infantry Regiment
24th Nav Gsn Unit
47th JNAF AF Unit

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The TF will rearm at Kendari coordinate their next bombardment with the next ground assault. An Ind Inf Coy captured Saumlaki; they will embark again and head for un-garrisoned Lautem to prevent retreat from Dili. The operation at Ternate continues, as do the three movements on Borneo. Tomorrow is D-Day for Ulithi.

Osaka/Kyoto.

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RE: 1944 July 31 - 8/5/2015 6:52:20 PM

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RE: 1944 July 31 - 8/5/2015 6:52:54 PM

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Indochina, at al. The RTA Rgt west of Bangkok has either withdrawn or fallen below the DL threshold. They were hit by Allied air strikes during the turn.

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RE: 1944 July 31 - 8/5/2015 6:53:16 PM

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CVE Breton.

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RE: 1944 July 31 - 8/5/2015 8:27:32 PM

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What does he have at Vinh? Any idea? Where the heck are they moving to...SE?

Judging by colors, it seems Indochina is yours with only token forces at Hanoi. Is that right?

Can you paradrop on Luangprabang? If in fact it is empty...perhaps strafe it for some better recon.

All those Allied troops heading south down the coast road!

Let loose the dogs of war! The center can't hold...argh, looks bleak for Japan here.

The Breton is still doomed without some naval support.

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1944 August 01 - 8/5/2015 9:53:17 PM

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1944 August 01

The Empire captured:

The Allies captured:
Siem Reap

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:

There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:
Ulithi

Imperial Naval Bombardments

Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Ulithi
Allied Ships Bombarding Ulithi
Allied Ships Bombarding Peleliu

Our subs took a much unneeded day off.

Quiet in China.

All the units north of Ayuthia have now been pushed back into that city. The attack on the Taung Gyi road went well.

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Ground combat at 57,60 (near Ayuthia)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5349 troops, 52 guns, 447 vehicles, Assault Value = 260

Defending force 219 troops, 6 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 256

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 256 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender:
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
141 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 21 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
150th RAC Regiment
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
268th Motorised Brigade
Gardner's Horse Regiment

Defending units:
82nd JAAF AF Bn

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Ground combat at 61,52 (near Chiang Mai)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 480 troops, 0 guns, 94 vehicles, Assault Value = 298

Defending force 620 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21

Allied adjusted assault: 51

Japanese adjusted defense: 40

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
51 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
16th Light Cavalry Regiment
200th Chinese Division

Defending units:
55th Cavalry Regiment

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One infantry unit moved up faster than anticipated, so they will attack with the armoured cars tomorrow. To the SE of Chiang Mai (across the river) the 17th Indian Division has joined up with the 14th LRP Bde and both will attack tomorrow with the B-24 groups striking in support. The objective is to drive the enemy back into Chiang Mai.

Battambang is a tougher target than anticipated. The Imperials on the coast are an endangered species.

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Ground combat at Battambang (58,65)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26613 troops, 360 guns, 380 vehicles, Assault Value = 867

Defending force 11407 troops, 124 guns, 88 vehicles, Assault Value = 194

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Allied adjusted assault: 336

Japanese adjusted defense: 219

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
409 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 44 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Guns lost 30 (4 destroyed, 26 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
293 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 15 (1 destroyed, 14 disabled)

Assaulting units:
2nd Australian Division
671th Tank Destroyer Battalion
32nd Infantry Division
4th Armoured Brigade

Defending units:
9th Division
20th AA Regiment
29th JNAF AF Unit
25th Army
26th Air Flotilla
59th JNAF AF Unit

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Ground combat at 65,63 (near Hue)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12573 troops, 164 guns, 265 vehicles, Assault Value = 481

Defending force 1864 troops, 41 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 63

Allied adjusted assault: 370

Japanese adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 123 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), morale(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1041 casualties reported
Squads: 46 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 51 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 21 (13 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (7 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2/4th Armoured Regiment
23rd Australian Brigade
503rd Parachute Regiment
2/5th Armoured Regiment
22nd Australian Brigade

Defending units:
23rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
110th/B Division
2nd RF Gun Battalion

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They continue at Battambang tomorrow. The next attack north of Udon Thani is also tomorrow, as is an attack east of Ubon on that support unit trekking through the jungle.

The 3 movements on Borneo, the siege of Ternate, and the reduction of Dili continue. The landing at Ulithi was an unmitigated disaster.

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Night Naval bombardment of Ulithi at 98,97

Allied Ships
BB Colorado

Japanese ground losses:
117 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB Colorado
BB Colorado firing at 5th Infantry Regiment

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Night Naval bombardment of Ulithi at 98,97

Allied Ships
BB New Mexico

Port hits 9
Port supply hits 1

OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB New Mexico
BB New Mexico firing at Ulithi

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Pre-Invasion action off Ulithi (98,97)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

31 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
DD Barton
DD Dale
LCI-22
LCI-62

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

DD Barton firing at 5th Infantry Regiment
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards

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Amphibious Assault at Ulithi (98,97)

TF 179 troops unloading over beach at Ulithi, 98,97

Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Invasion Support action off Ulithi (98,97)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

21 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
DD Dale
LCI-22
DD Frazier
LCI-23
LCI-63

Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

DD Dale firing at 5th Infantry Regiment
DD Dale fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards

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Morning Air attack on 5th Infantry Regiment, at 98,97 (Ulithi)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-25D1 Mitchell x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 5th Infantry Regiment, at 98,97 (Ulithi)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 4
B-25G Mitchell x 3

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25G Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 5th Infantry Regiment, at 98,97 (Ulithi)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
TBF-1 Avenger x 17

Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 5th Infantry Regiment, at 98,97 (Ulithi)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 4
B-25G Mitchell x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25G Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 5th Infantry Regiment, at 98,97 (Ulithi)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Ulithi (98,97)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 3494 troops, 48 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 110

Defending force 4517 troops, 26 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 110

Allied adjusted assault: 0

Japanese adjusted defense: 22

Allied assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(-), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
916 casualties reported
Squads: 51 destroyed, 83 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 37 (2 destroyed, 35 disabled)

Assaulting units:
24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
5th Infantry Regiment
30th Ind Engineer Regiment

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We are ordering various destroyer and cruiser groups to make full speed to bombard tomorrow in the hope that plus air support will keep the Rgt from being wiped out. There are only supplies remaining afloat so those will continue to unload.

Indochina, et al.

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RE: 1944 August 01 - 8/5/2015 9:53:58 PM

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RE: 1944 August 01 - 8/5/2015 9:54:26 PM

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RE: 1944 August 01 - 8/5/2015 9:54:47 PM

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CVE Breton.

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RE: 1944 August 01 - 8/5/2015 9:55:08 PM

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Ulithi. I just replaced this CO with Colonel T. Shoji. I'm not sure if that's a good thing...

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RE: 1944 July 31 - 8/5/2015 10:08:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

What does he have at Vinh? Any idea?
More and more. >40,000 troops and more units. Looks like a strong point, not sure what the unit was moving north a short while ago - maybe just a unit there to plug the dike until stronger forces arrived.
Where the heck are they moving to...SE?
Maybe to keep open a door for the 3 (now 2) retreating units? Dunno.

Judging by colors, it seems Indochina is yours with only token forces at Hanoi. Is that right?
Not really. Loads of fighters and some bombers at Hanoi and additional air power at Lao Cai. Still more units moving through Lang Son heading toward battle!

Can you paradrop on Luangprabang? If in fact it is empty...perhaps strafe it for some better recon.
Maybe, but I want to retreat the units there from/through Viennetian (spelling is worng!). The armor will chase them (two Sherman tank Bns coming) while the two infantry divisions turn right and approach Vinh from the faster road (then cross country 1 hex).

All those Allied troops heading south down the coast road! Let loose the dogs of war! The center can't hold...argh, looks bleak for Japan here.
The trapping of Imperial forces near Chiang Mai and near Bangkok/Battambang is certain. Troop movements seen on Java. Troop count at Singapore has grown to ~48k. Seems that Singapore and some part of the peninsula is being reinforced.

The Breton is still doomed without some naval support.
I know.

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RE: 1944 August 01 - 8/6/2015 2:49:27 AM

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

Ulithi. I just replaced this CO with Colonel T. Shoji. I'm not sure if that's a good thing...

(Aporogies to Cap Mandrake-san for bratent pragiarism)
What-ah make witpqs-san think not a good thing? Just because Shoji-san have thick grasses and speak with funny accent and have even tan auhh over - even in winter, not-ah mean he not great guy!

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1944 August 02 - 8/6/2015 2:53:32 AM

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1944 August 02

The Empire captured:

The Allies captured:
Chanthaburi

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:

There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:
Ulithi

Imperial Naval Bombardments

Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Ulithi
Allied Ships Bombarding Ulithi

Our subs had no encounters.

Quiet in China.

The attack on the road into Thailand from Burma went well and retreated the Imperial unit toward Chiang Mai, trapping them. Across the river from Chiang Mai our attack failed to push them back into the city, but another division has arrived and all three units will attack tomorrow.

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Ground combat at 59,54 (near Chiang Mai)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13968 troops, 165 guns, 79 vehicles, Assault Value = 614

Defending force 12086 troops, 152 guns, 79 vehicles, Assault Value = 169

Allied adjusted assault: 320

Japanese adjusted defense: 241

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
513 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 28 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
469 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 64 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Assaulting units:
23rd Indian Division
14th LRP Brigade
17th Indian Division

Defending units:
14th Division
146th Infantry Regiment
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment

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Ground combat at 61,52 (near Chiang Mai)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7136 troops, 11 guns, 94 vehicles, Assault Value = 372

Defending force 532 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12

Allied adjusted assault: 270

Japanese adjusted defense: 4

Allied assault odds: 67 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
277 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
1st Burma Brigade
209th Cmbt Engineer Battalion
16th Light Cavalry Regiment
200th Chinese Division

Defending units:
55th Cavalry Regiment

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The 25th Indian Div has caught most of the units routed from Mergui heading toward Prachuap Khiri Kahn and will attack them tomorrow.

Battambang held but was further reduced; the support unit was pushed back again; the two units north of Udon Thani held again.

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Ground combat at Battambang (58,65)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26399 troops, 360 guns, 380 vehicles, Assault Value = 886

Defending force 10879 troops, 120 guns, 88 vehicles, Assault Value = 152

Allied adjusted assault: 470

Japanese adjusted defense: 169

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1211 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 42 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 67 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Guns lost 20 (2 destroyed, 18 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
163 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Assaulting units:
671th Tank Destroyer Battalion
2/6th Armoured Regiment
32nd Infantry Division
2nd Australian Division
4th Armoured Brigade

Defending units:
9th Division
26th Air Flotilla
25th Army
20th AA Regiment
29th JNAF AF Unit
59th JNAF AF Unit

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Ground combat at 62,58 (near Udon Thani)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 540 troops, 3 guns, 82 vehicles, Assault Value = 46

Defending force 1622 troops, 10 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 11

Allied adjusted assault: 35

Japanese adjusted defense: 25

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
198 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
640th Tank Destroyer Battalion

Defending units:
4th Naval Construction Battalion
41st JAAF AF Bn

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Ground combat at 64,63 (near Hue)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4357 troops, 74 guns, 25 vehicles, Assault Value = 138

Defending force 689 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 65

Japanese adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 21 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
361 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 12 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
27th Australian Brigade

Defending units:
28th Air Flotilla

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We have another armoured Rgt at Battambang so in spite of the rising disruption of the other troops all will attack again tomorrow.

The troops on Ulithi auto-evacuated and are on their way to Guam for some ice cream. Bring on the Kiwi Bde in a few weeks. Lautem will be invaded by an Ind Coy tomorrow, so the troops at Dili will attack on the heels of an overnight bombardment by the Dutch Navy.

Indochina, et al. >43,000 troops at Vinh and another 4,800 in the unit just to the SE (probably a Rgt).