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Nimitz to PH - 8/12/2015 8:13:09 PM   
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RayYoung
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Status: offline 		How does one go about getting Chester to replace Kimmel?

I see he is in San Diego but I can't seem to access him as a replacement.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.
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RE: Nimitz to PH - 8/12/2015 8:41:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Go to Pacific Fleet HQscreen and click on Adm. Kimmel's name. This should bring up the list of available commanders, probably sorted by land skill. Click on Naval Skill to sort that way and scroll to the top of the list. Nimitz will be somewhere up there. Select him and hit OK, IF you are willing to pay the PP (150?) it will cost to replace Kimmel.

EDIT: PS - I am not sure if there is a delay in Nimitz' availability. IRL it was several weeks after Dec. 7th before Nimitz was named as replacement.

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RE: Nimitz to PH - 8/12/2015 8:48:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		If Nimitz is already assigned to a different HQ you will have to change that HQ's leader to free him up.

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RE: Nimitz to PH - 8/12/2015 8:54:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is in the Pacific Fleet HQ, right?

What will that 150pp by you by replacing Kimmel? How much does the overall commander of the Pacific Fleet affect what you are doing?

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RE: Nimitz to PH - 8/12/2015 9:12:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: nashvillen

This is in the Pacific Fleet HQ, right?

What will that 150pp by you by replacing Kimmel? How much does the overall commander of the Pacific Fleet affect what you are doing?


Objectively you are quite correct, not replacing Kimmel is probably the smart thing to do.

I do it anyway. It just doesn't feel right to me to have Chester anyplace but in charge of Pacific Fleet HQ.

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RE: Nimitz to PH - 8/12/2015 9:35:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Feltan


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ORIGINAL: nashvillen

This is in the Pacific Fleet HQ, right?

What will that 150pp by you by replacing Kimmel? How much does the overall commander of the Pacific Fleet affect what you are doing?


Objectively you are quite correct, not replacing Kimmel is probably the smart thing to do.

I do it anyway. It just doesn't feel right to me to have Chester anyplace but in charge of Pacific Fleet HQ.

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I always replace K with N too. But I'm not sure it's meaningless. The devs have never fully revealed what each of the leader stats does down in the weeds. Most especially for the top-level commands. There's a lot of forum "I know" lore about leaders and how to select them by stat category, but there really is very little reliable info from them what's seen the code, all the way back to WITP.

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RE: Nimitz to PH - 8/13/2015 3:04:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for all the replies.

It is early in the campaign and nobody else is on the list with Kimmel so I can't choose anyone at this point. Maybe it is a timing thing. Also, I don't have the political points anyway.

I went back to the saved game immediately after Dec. 7th and he wasn't there to choose either.

However, I have restarted so many time I have lost track. I recall in one of my attempts I was actually able to do the swap. It was just curious to me that it was missing.

So, perhaps it is a historical timing situation.

Anyway, I appreciate all the replies. Thanks again

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RE: Nimitz to PH - 8/13/2015 3:47:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's strange that Nimitz is already assigned somewhere.

Usually he is unassigned and available at game start.

I too routinely give him command of the Pacific and retire Kimmel.

It takes me a few weeks longer than historically to assign him the command since the 150 PPs are a valuable commodity at game start.

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RE: Nimitz to PH - 8/13/2015 4:41:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you don't have enough PP, he won't show up in the list. Wait until you have enough (I think it is 150), and you should see him.

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RE: Nimitz to PH - 8/13/2015 6:02:20 PM   
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It's strange that Nimitz is already assigned somewhere.

Usually he is unassigned and available at game start.

I too routinely give him command of the Pacific and retire Kimmel.

It takes me a few weeks longer than historically to assign him the command since the 150 PPs are a valuable commodity at game start.


Yeah, he shouldn't be at SD unless the OP put him there and didn't realize it.

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RE: Nimitz to PH - 8/13/2015 6:26:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I had never replaced Kimmel either but Bullwinkle makes a good point. It's hard to believe that the programmers would put in routines to cover weather in each hex twice per day and totally ignore the overall HQ command. My next turn is going to see Nimitz in Pearl!

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RE: Nimitz to PH - 8/13/2015 7:37:57 PM   
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I had never replaced Kimmel either but Bullwinkle makes a good point. It's hard to believe that the programmers would put in routines to cover weather in each hex twice per day and totally ignore the overall HQ command. My next turn is going to see Nimitz in Pearl!


The effort to create WITPAE was massive involving several teams that each focused on separate tasks.

Apparently the command structure took a back seat to other efforts and never got finished to the degree many of us would have liked before they had to wrap up the effort and publish the game.

It is what it is and most of us hard core devotees have learned to accept it.

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RE: Nimitz to PH - 8/13/2015 10:39:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Since the disasters of Dec 7th/Dec 8th (and Dec 10th) are essentially hard coded it is incredible to me that anyone would consider even the tiniest political cost to replacing Kimmel to have any political ramifications. In the movie "Tora Tora Tora" a spent bullet hits Kimmel and he mutters "It would have been merciful if it had killed me" seems to sum up the political cost of getting rid of him.

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RE: Nimitz to PH - 8/15/2015 11:59:44 PM   
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Since the disasters of Dec 7th/Dec 8th (and Dec 10th) are essentially hard coded it is incredible to me that anyone would consider even the tiniest political cost to replacing Kimmel to have any political ramifications. In the movie "Tora Tora Tora" a spent bullet hits Kimmel and he mutters "It would have been merciful if it had killed me" seems to sum up the political cost of getting rid of him.


Spence what are you suggesting???

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RE: Nimitz to PH - 8/16/2015 11:28:18 AM   
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PacFleet is a command HQ, not a naval HQ. As such Kimmel is a big mistake to leave in place. You want a strong commander, Nimitz is a good choice.

Command HQ's give huge bonus to ground attack, will arm bombers, can supply torps, add replacements to LCU's, just to name a few things. They are amoung the most important units in the game. Put your best overall commanders there.


EDIT: Someone above notes that we don't know exactly what leader stats do what and that is true. However, I do make sure that my Command HQ leaders have good ground, leadership, admin, and inspiration which Chester does.
Until the Amphib HQ's arrive, a well prepped command HQ in range makes all the difference in amphib operations. And for IJ since they never get Amphib HQ's, it is the only way to run an amphib op once the landing bonus expires.
At least that is my experience. YMMV.

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RE: Nimitz to PH - 8/16/2015 11:59:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		H.B.,

I hear you on the lack of development time. On the other hand, to the extent that they did get to it, the 150 PP is cheap insurance to make sure the better leader is in place.

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RE: Nimitz to PH - 8/17/2015 11:56:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I end up putting Nimitz in PH, it just doesn't feel right to not do it. But I agree with Hans, I need those 150 PP's elsewhere early on.

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