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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

Naval Transport - by the rules - yes, although you'd end up in such a low sea box that the invasion odds would be very poor. Even the QE (the fastest TRS) would be in a sea box no higher than the 2 (only the 1 or zero, if the sea zone is not adjacent to port B). Also if the final sea zone is adjacent to Port B, why bother sailing through Port B and waste movement points and range? You can simply enter the sea zone, go to the highest sea box possible, and then embark the unit and later in the impulse invade with it. In any event the capability to move out, go to Port B and embark a unit there, and move onward - is currently not working in MWiF and resides on the bug list.

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ORIGINAL: juntoalmar

Hi Paul,

Thanks again. No, you understood exactly what I asked (embark and keep moving). But, as the manual says:

11.4.5 Embarking Units. [...] A TRS can embark organized units it starts the impulse stacked with, or it can embark them when it moves through the port they’re in.

Then, I understand I can:
1) move the TRS from port A to port B,
2) embark unit from port B
3) keep moving to a sea area

am I wrong? It maybe some language misunderstanding of mine, but when I read "move through" I understand the TRS can keep moving after moves in port B and embarks units.

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ORIGINAL: Orm

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ORIGINAL: juntoalmar

Hi Paul,

Thanks again. No, you understood exactly what I asked (embark and keep moving). But, as the manual says:

11.4.5 Embarking Units. [...] A TRS can embark organized units it starts the impulse stacked with, or it can embark them when it moves through the port they’re in.

Then, I understand I can:
1) move the TRS from port A to port B,
2) embark unit from port B
3) keep moving to a sea area

am I wrong? It maybe some language misunderstanding of mine, but when I read "move through" I understand the TRS can keep moving after moves in port B and embarks units.

This is allowed. (But, at the moment, it might be bugged)

There is a difference between embarking in port and embarking at sea.

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ORIGINAL: juntoalmar

Thanks. I thought I was doing something wrong or misunderstanding the rules. Is it worthy to notify to Steve or is it well known bug already?

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ORIGINAL: Joseignacio

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ORIGINAL: Orm

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ORIGINAL: juntoalmar

Hi Paul,

Thanks again. No, you understood exactly what I asked (embark and keep moving). But, as the manual says:

11.4.5 Embarking Units. [...] A TRS can embark organized units it starts the impulse stacked with, or it can embark them when it moves through the port they’re in.

Then, I understand I can:
1) move the TRS from port A to port B,
2) embark unit from port B
3) keep moving to a sea area

am I wrong? It maybe some language misunderstanding of mine, but when I read "move through" I understand the TRS can keep moving after moves in port B and embarks units.

This is allowed. (But, at the moment, it might be bugged)

There is a difference between embarking in port and embarking at sea.

+1 It's allowed to pick an organized unit in a port you are entering, and carry it with you.

This is not useful for invasions, as mentioned, cause if the invaded area is far, the level of the sea box you reach gets too low, and if it is close, usually (or always) the system that Paul writes in post #2, is better. However, it could be useful sometimes, like sending The Queens from Gibraltar, loading a unit that you don't really need there in Egypt and sending it to Greece or Yugoslavia.

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11.4.4 Naval movement restrictions
1. You can’t move naval units between Kiel and the North Sea if an enemy major power controls any of the hexes adjacent to the Kiel Canal.
2. You can’t move naval units between the Eastern Mediterranean and the Red Sea, or between Suez and the Eastern Mediterranean, if a major power you are at war with controls any of the hexes adjacent to the Suez Canal.
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Rough Seas (SiF/CliF option 75)
During the naval movement step (see 11.4) only, each light cruiser, destroyer flotilla, TRS, (CoiF option 76: ASW, tanker) or convoy (CoiF option 76: or tanker) point that moves into 1 or more sea areas in blizzard or storm has its movement allowance and range reduced by 1 this step (note that this may prevent the unit from entering its final sea area).

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Option 19: (In the presence of the enemy) It costs a surface naval unit 2 points of its movement allowance (not range) to enter a sea area that contains a CV (with a carrier plane), SCS or aircraft unit controlled by an unsurprised (see 15.) major power it is at war with. This does not apply (i.e. you pay normal costs) if, at the start of the impulse, the sea area contained a friendly:
ï CV with a carrier plane; or
ï SCS; or
ï aircraft unit.
It also doesn’t apply to a naval unit returning to base nor if the only enemy units attempting to slow you down are aircraft during storm or blizzard.

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ORIGINAL: Joseignacio

As for "In the "presence of the enemy", it would be ok, provided that the area with enemy units that fulfill the conditions was the Eastern Mediterranean.

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Option 19: (In the presence of the enemy) It costs a surface naval unit 2 points of its movement allowance (not range) to enter a sea area that contains a CV (with a carrier plane), SCS or aircraft unit controlled by an unsurprised (see 15.) major power it is at war with. This does not apply (i.e. you pay normal costs) if, at the start of the impulse, the sea area contained a friendly:
ï CV with a carrier plane; or
ï SCS; or
ï aircraft unit.
It also doesn’t apply to a naval unit returning to base nor if the only enemy units attempting to slow you down are aircraft during storm or blizzard.

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ORIGINAL: nilssone85

Hi
Here is another example.
I have a few American battleships on Malta. When I move them into the Italian coast they can only enter the 2nd box. Should be the third?
See attached save-game