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Upgrade to "Universe" - 9/25/2015 3:33:41 PM   
nukkxx5058


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Status: offline 		Hi, I already have DW+ROTS+LEGENDS. (but not "shadows")

Is there a way to upgrade to "Universe" without having to purchase the whole expansive package ?

Also, it's not clear to me what main features exactly are added in "universe" ?

Thanks
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RE: Upgrade to "Universe" - 9/25/2015 3:39:23 PM   
nukkxx5058


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Status: offline 		Let me precise my question...

The presentation says:

New to Universe!

* The entire Distant Worlds series in one package!
* Comprehensive Modding and Customization Support:
* A new official storyline built using the new modding capabilities, covering the first war between the Freedom Alliance and the Shaktur Axis, in which you have access to the tech required to build your own planet destroyers, establish the Ancient Guardians and research and deploy the Xaraktor virus.

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This doesn't seem to be a big change !?

So, if I'm not interested in modding, should I buy it ? Or should I just upgrade to "shadows" (given the fact that I already have "legends" and to limit the cost ?

Thanks

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RE: Upgrade to "Universe" - 9/25/2015 5:35:35 PM   
Bingeling

 

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Status: offline 		The upgrade offer has expired ages ago.

Your options are:

1: Do Nothing
2: Upgrade to shadows
3: Buy Universe at full price
4: Wait for a sale of Universe

Universe has already been at 50% on Steam (and probably here).

To use the updated mods you need Universe, there are good ones like the AI mod. There is also quite a few nice changes done to universe after release, which is not for the most part available in Shadows (some may be, I did not pay attention). I would rate Universe quite a bit superior to Shadows (which in itself is a good upgrade from Legends).

I would consider to wishlist it on Steam and get a mail when it goes on sale.

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RE: Upgrade to "Universe" - 9/25/2015 8:27:30 PM   
nukkxx5058


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Status: offline 		OK. Thanks.
But what would "universe" offers me as compared to "shadows" appart the modding stuff which i'm not interested in ?
Thank you.

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RE: Upgrade to "Universe" - 9/25/2015 8:30:12 PM   
nukkxx5058


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ORIGINAL: Bingeling

Your options are:

1: Do Nothing
2: Upgrade to shadows
3: Buy Universe at full price
4: Wait for a sale of Universe


And yes, forgot to ask ... What would be your recommandation ?
Thx :-)

< Message edited by nukkxx -- 9/25/2015 9:31:36 PM >

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RE: Upgrade to "Universe" - 9/26/2015 1:00:03 AM   
PsyKoSnake


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Status: offline 		What Universe will offer you:

Icemanie AI Improvement mod ;)

Wait for a sale on Steam!
But you could pay the full price and you probably wont regret it.

< Message edited by PsyKoSnake -- 9/26/2015 2:01:55 AM >

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RE: Upgrade to "Universe" - 9/26/2015 4:45:42 AM   
nukkxx5058


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ORIGINAL: PsyKoSnake

What Universe will offer you:

Icemanie AI Improvement mod ;)

Wait for a sale on Steam!
But you could pay the full price and you probably wont regret it.


Sorry, I'm not sure I understand .... so basically, you are saying that the only one improvement in 'universe' is the AI ?

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RE: Upgrade to "Universe" - 9/26/2015 5:11:14 AM   
nukkxx5058


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ORIGINAL: PsyKoSnake

Wait for a sale on Steam!
But you could pay the full price and you probably wont regret it.


Again, I don't understand :-)
I can see it's already for sale on steam ... 55 euros.
So what did you mean ?
I'm probably going to buy it on Steam then.

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RE: Upgrade to "Universe" - 9/26/2015 5:19:05 AM   
nukkxx5058


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Status: offline 		OK, I couldn't resist.
Downloading on Steam :-))) ...

[*edit* ... and I'm more than happy to support the devs ]

< Message edited by nukkxx -- 9/26/2015 6:25:02 AM >

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RE: Upgrade to "Universe" - 9/26/2015 3:05:07 PM   
PsyKoSnake


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Status: offline 		Universe expansion was made to be able to mod the game.

It add some other thing, but modding is the major upgrade.

Play the game on extreme + Xtended Ai improvement mod from icemania and u will probably start to lose game.



< Message edited by PsyKoSnake -- 9/26/2015 4:37:32 PM >

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RE: Upgrade to "Universe" - 9/27/2015 3:10:43 AM   
nukkxx5058


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Status: offline 		And where do i find it ?
And how do I install it ?
Thx.

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RE: Upgrade to "Universe" - 9/27/2015 1:26:06 PM   
PsyKoSnake


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http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3616517

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RE: Upgrade to "Universe" - 9/29/2015 7:23:43 AM   
nukkxx5058


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Status: offline 		Thanks. Should I install this immediately or should I first train with the standard package ?

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RE: Upgrade to "Universe" - 9/29/2015 8:42:27 AM   
Bingeling

 

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Status: offline 		I suggest that you only switch once you think the base game is too easy. Extreme difficulty and AI mod is very much harder than the default game, and is based around the player doing the rather optimal choices at all times (at least at the early phases).

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RE: Upgrade to "Universe" - 9/29/2015 9:27:25 AM   
nukkxx5058


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Status: offline 		Thanks. :-)

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RE: Upgrade to "Universe" - 9/29/2015 10:05:36 AM   
Bingeling

 

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Status: offline 		There are other mods, though, that do not effect the AI too much. The Extended Universe, for instance, just adds a few races for more variety.

I would say that a new player don't need more variety until having actually seen the original races a few times, though.

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RE: Upgrade to "Universe" - 9/30/2015 10:37:33 PM   
b15h09

 

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Status: offline 		Hi, I have a question along this same vein. I currently own DW+ROTS+Legends+Shadows. Is there an upgrade path to Universe? From what I could tell, for the first week of Universe's release, it would have been $10 to upgrade, but I had no idea at the time. I'd basically just like to have this available through steam, and good mod support sounds nice as well. Would there be any available options to me other than paying full price for Universe, or waiting for a sale?

Thanks in advance

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RE: Upgrade to "Universe" - 10/1/2015 8:38:09 AM   
Bingeling

 

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Status: offline 		No there is nothing apart from full price or waiting for a sale.

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RE: Upgrade to "Universe" - 10/8/2015 8:49:51 PM   
mek42

 

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Status: offline 		Only allowing the upgrade coupon for a short period seems like a slap in the face to existing customers. I can see having the coupon applicable only to current non-sale pricing, but for it to be completely gone is not a sign of true customer appreciation.

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RE: Upgrade to "Universe" - 10/8/2015 9:02:18 PM   
Erik Rutins

 

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Status: offline 		To be fair, the upgrade offer lasted for months and as part of it, we e-mailed every single previous DW customer that we had any record of to inform them that the offer was available. Our hope was that everyone who wanted to upgrade would have plenty of time to do so. With all that said, I wish we had not allowed it to expire, but it was certainly not an attempt to slap anyone in the face. Once it had expired though, re-instating it would cause enough problems that we could not logistically make that happen. We have instead run promotions since then to make Universe periodically more affordable in the hopes that would help those customer who missed out on the upgrade offer.

Regards,

- Erik


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