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Radar warning for incoming raid, but no radar present o... - 11/5/2015 8:35:20 PM   
Zebedee


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Status: offline 		Hi guys,

really sorry for question, have tried searching but no joy.

My baby KB in an AI 're-learn the game' game is parked off the southern coast of Borneo. It's early March 1942. The Dutch have been futilely launching bombers against its CAP. A message keeps flashing up 'radar detects incoming raid'. It's definitely in response to the Dutch attacks on the TF. The problem is there is not a single radar set present on any ship. Visual Search only. The nearest land based unit is up in, erm, Bangkok and regions around there.

Is this just a glitch or am I missing something? If this has been discussed elsewhere, link to the thread is as good as a response. It's not hugely important but it's been the pebble in my shoe the past few days trying to figure it out.

Huge thanks in advance!
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RE: Radar warning for incoming raid, but no radar prese... - 11/5/2015 8:41:22 PM   
Terminus


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Status: offline 		"Visual Search" is a device of the type Radar.

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RE: Radar warning for incoming raid, but no radar prese... - 11/5/2015 8:42:02 PM   
Zebedee


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Status: offline 		Thank you Terminus. All is now clear. Appreciated. One less pebble :)

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RE: Radar warning for incoming raid, but no radar prese... - 11/5/2015 9:07:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Terminus

"Visual Search" is a device of the type Radar.


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RE: Radar warning for incoming raid, but no radar prese... - 11/6/2015 10:14:04 PM   
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RE: Radar warning for incoming raid, but no radar prese... - 11/9/2015 3:44:56 PM   
Amoral

 

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Status: offline 		Japanese AA regiments have "visual search" and "sound observer" devices, which are both treated as radar with really bad stats. Later in the war they get upgraded to actual radar sets with better detection range.

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RE: Radar warning for incoming raid, but no radar prese... - 11/9/2015 4:30:04 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		I have had Allied planes shot down by flak when no flak is present.

I have yet to have a ship shoot at the moon yet though.

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RE: Radar warning for incoming raid, but no radar prese... - 11/9/2015 6:41:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lowpe
I have had Allied planes shot down by flak when no flak is present.

That one is perfectly fine though. There were numerous occurencies during WWII of planes shot down by conventional firearms not specialized flak. And most of ground units in the game have those.
Surely this was reported to Air HQs as flak job, but technically it was not

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RE: Radar warning for incoming raid, but no radar prese... - 11/10/2015 6:13:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		1. What is difference btw a) a TF with one CV having a radar b) a TF with several radar sets present in a many ships ?

2. Does having a radar help AA accuracy in the game ?

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RE: Radar warning for incoming raid, but no radar prese... - 11/10/2015 6:17:10 PM   
Barb


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Status: offline 		1. Each radar set has its own rolls against incoming strikes. Some of the Radars are not so good (esp. the Jap ones) - so you want as many sets and with the biggest range - to get the best chances to detect the raid and get CAP up.
The same goes for surface radars

2. One can suppose that DL of the incoming strike can help AA - but I really do not know how it is implemented in code.

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RE: Radar warning for incoming raid, but no radar prese... - 11/11/2015 7:18:44 AM   
Rising-Sun


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Status: offline 		That is strange, I would have mention the same thing if I didn't have radar devices as well. Should have switch to visual til the technology comes up to that date.

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RE: Radar warning for incoming raid, but no radar prese... - 11/15/2015 4:37:21 PM   
Zebedee


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Status: offline 		It's just flavour text really at a tactical level, and made me curious what was going on to the extent of leaving carriers lingering under LBA for no real reason to try and figure it out. Not that the Zero pilots were complaining about it. Had forgotten about device types, been a few years since I opened up the editor. Pretty sure it'll have been posted about before but a decade on and I still find the search feature here very hit and miss.

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RE: Radar warning for incoming raid, but no radar prese... - 11/17/2015 2:29:42 AM   
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Pretty sure it'll have been posted about before but a decade on and I still find the search feature here very hit and miss.


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