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Will this game be on sale around Christmas? - 11/14/2015 11:57:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Now, I hope I don't offend anyone with this question, but will this game be offered on sale around Christmas? I really would like to try it, but the current price is a bit steep for me.

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RE: Will this game be on sale around Christmas? - 11/14/2015 12:38:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have no inside information but the usual case for Matrix is to put most things on sale except new releases this year. Sale usually begins right after Thanksgiving and continues until the new year. Most things get around a 33% discount judging by years past with much older games getting discounted more. With quite a few of there games on steam this year curious to see the sale this year.

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RE: Will this game be on sale around Christmas? - 11/14/2015 1:40:31 PM   
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RE: Will this game be on sale around Christmas? - 11/14/2015 2:11:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Or buy it and know that you're getting your money's worth. I bought it in the first month of original release. I'm still playing it avidly.

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RE: Will this game be on sale around Christmas? - 11/14/2015 3:03:25 PM   
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Or buy it and know that you're getting your money's worth. I bought it in the first month of original release. I'm still playing it avidly.


aye, in terms of purchase cost/hours spent playing this is probably the cheapest game I have

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RE: Will this game be on sale around Christmas? - 11/14/2015 3:40:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks guys. Well, of the quality of this game I'm already convinced. Never seen a game with such good reviews.

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RE: Will this game be on sale around Christmas? - 11/14/2015 6:30:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: heliodorus04

Or buy it and know that you're getting your money's worth. I bought it in the first month of original release. I'm still playing it avidly.


aye, in terms of purchase cost/hours spent playing this is probably the cheapest game I have

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RE: Will this game be on sale around Christmas? - 11/14/2015 7:26:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		A long, long time ago I used to play TOAW (The Operational Art of Warfare). It was good, but not always very balanced. I hope this game is TOAW on steroids. When there is indeed a discount of 33 percent after Thanksgiving I will surely buy it.

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RE: Will this game be on sale around Christmas? - 11/15/2015 7:01:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		In the mean time perhaps you can tell me something about the game. How realistic is it? Is it for instance possible to realistically simulate the relief operation at Stalingrad or the fighting in Hungary? I'm a fan of alternate scenarios and I like to change some factors, like for instance one or two divisions more during operation Winter Storm or not attacking at Kursk, but defending. Is it possible to adjust 'reality' and see what happens then?

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RE: Will this game be on sale around Christmas? - 11/15/2015 7:15:16 AM   
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In the mean time perhaps you can tell me something about the game. How realistic is it? Is it for instance possible to realistically simulate the relief operation at Stalingrad or the fighting in Hungary? I'm a fan of alternate scenarios and I like to change some factors, like for instance one or two divisions more during operation Winter Storm or not attacking at Kursk, but defending. Is it possible to adjust 'reality' and see what happens then?


the game is hardwired in some respects. In particular the German OOB is keyed into historical arrivals and departures.

There was a deliberate design decision not to tie the players to historical errors. So there is no e-Stalin ordering stand fast orders or e-Hitler deciding on an offensive in the summer of 1943 etc. So yes you can explore, re-organise your armies as you want ... move Pzrs out of AGC either north or south (or both) - see what happens.

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RE: Will this game be on sale around Christmas? - 11/15/2015 10:11:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		And how does this game compare to the Panzer Campaign series? I must admit never have played those either, but can you give me your opinion please?

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RE: Will this game be on sale around Christmas? - 11/19/2015 2:11:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Loki100, what happens to units that were historically destroyed like the 6th army if they are not destroyed in the current game?

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RE: Will this game be on sale around Christmas? - 11/19/2015 3:31:38 PM   
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Loki100, what happens to units that were historically destroyed like the 6th army if they are not destroyed in the current game?


I think this has been the source of some controversy in the past.

My understanding is some units are removed as the Germans kept some of the rebuilt formations in the West. Others aren't (as they were returned to the Soviet Union). It maybe that some recent patches have made this a bit less of a hit on replacements etc.

In effect, you should end up with the same number of post-Stalingrad divisions as were deployed by mid-43. Obviously in most games its unlikely they will be destroyed and rebuilt but even so you will lose a few (those that never came back) to simulate reinforcement of France/Balkans etc.

But you may get a more coherent answer from someone who understands the German OOB better than I do.

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RE: Will this game be on sale around Christmas? - 11/20/2015 9:26:53 AM   
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