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What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/1/2015 5:55:18 PM

vaalen

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Greetings.

I have been reading patch notes an dFAQs, but I still have these question.

What is solitaire mode>

Does the game have an AI opponent?

Any help will be appreciated.

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RE: What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/1/2015 6:20:47 PM

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Solitair mode is that you can play yourself. An AI isn't in the game at this point.

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RE: What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/1/2015 6:45:21 PM

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thank you, Peter.

Best, Vaalen

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RE: What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/1/2015 8:45:15 PM

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Solitair mode is that you can play yourself. An AI isn't in the game at this point.

Yes thank you Peter, at what point will the AI be in the game Peter?

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RE: What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/1/2015 9:46:20 PM

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One of the better ones is there now - the other "you" in Solitaire.

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RE: What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/5/2015 8:22:36 PM

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This is not only for this game of course. But, do you have any advice to play a solitaire game? I mean it happens on one side that you are doing a risky move hoping the other side won�t notice. How do you refrain yourself as the "other" side not to crush your enemy?

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RE: What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/5/2015 11:41:18 PM

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Makes for a better game. You only do reasonable things and take reasonable risks. I suppose you could set up some kind of die roll system to generate a less able opponent.

But there are so many die rolls in the game for weather, initiative and turn length, you are unlikely to ever play the same solitaire game twice in a row.

And you can experiment with Japan being aggressive in China, and/or the Pacific. Or maybe try attacking Russia. Or even just a passive strat bomb China campaign, hoping that US Entry will make only torpid progress. Likewise Russia can defend forward and risk a bad break on the garrison ratio and getting slaughtered, or defend back in the hinterlands, knowing Barb will come earlier in all likelihood. Or maybe try attacking Japan. For Germany/Italy the main strategies are: Barb 41, Barb 42, Close the Med, or try a Sitzkrieg. Or how about attack Spain and drive for Gibraltar as the weather towards the end of 1940 becomes your main enemy? For France, how long can you get them to hold out before the inevitable surrender or Vichyfication? And then will Free France be able to get some units built and contribute to the cause, or will it end up completely conquered? For CW and the USA, of course it's the old question they faced in real life - Germany or Japan first?

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RE: What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/8/2015 1:56:13 AM

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quote:

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Solitair mode is that you can play yourself. An AI isn't in the game at this point.

Yes thank you Peter, at what point will the AI be in the game Peter?

Bo

No date given, or at least, not one that I have seen. I too, am waiting for it ... my current opponent is LOUSY! No challenge at all. Can't even get the rules right yet! Sheesh!

And yes, I am still relegated to solitaire ..

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RE: What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/14/2015 9:19:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: Centuur

Solitair mode is that you can play yourself. An AI isn't in the game at this point.

Yes thank you Peter, at what point will the AI be in the game Peter?

Bo

No date given, or at least, not one that I have seen. I too, am waiting for it ... my current opponent is LOUSY! No challenge at all. Can't even get the rules right yet! Sheesh!

And yes, I am still relegated to solitaire ..

My dear PaxMondo I was being a little sarcastic with my friend Peter as we both know the answer to that one, tell your current opponet to bone up and read the pamphlet Annual 98, if you don't have it I will send it to you. Then you will be able to kick butt after reading it

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RE: What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/15/2015 12:40:23 AM

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I've found that when playing solitaire, there are many, many occasions where doing something is a 50/50 call. I simply flip a coin and go with the result. If there are three potential options, roll a die, with (1,2) being option one etc. It's fun and adds another layer of randomness to the game.

Cheers, Neilster

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RE: What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/15/2015 1:09:35 PM

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I've found that when playing solitaire, there are many, many occasions where doing something is a 50/50 call. I simply flip a coin and go with the result. If there are three potential options, roll a die, with (1,2) being option one etc. It's fun and adds another layer of randomness to the game.

Cheers, Neilster

Here's somebody with their head firmly screwed on!

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RE: What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/15/2015 4:58:15 PM

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I've found that when playing solitaire, there are many, many occasions where doing something is a 50/50 call. I simply flip a coin and go with the result. If there are three potential options, roll a die, with (1,2) being option one etc. It's fun and adds another layer of randomness to the game.

Cheers, Neilster

Here's somebody with their head firmly screwed on!

Did you have to post that about the Neilster, his ego is so large after that he might dive into the waters off of Hobart and take on a couple of Tasmanian sharks, barehanded of course

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RE: What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/16/2015 10:18:39 AM

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Did you have to post that about the Neilster, his ego is so large after that he might dive into the waters off of Hobart and take on a couple of Tasmanian sharks, barehanded of course

Unlikely. They're a bit big...and hungry.

Cheers, Neilster

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RE: What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/20/2015 2:03:11 AM

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OK, two years since release and still no AI, if one even expected?

Is solitaire mode basically what has been called 'hot seat', you are playing against yourself?

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RE: What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/20/2015 8:08:46 AM

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Is solitaire mode basically what has been called 'hot seat', you are playing against yourself?

Indeed.

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RE: What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/20/2015 5:21:05 PM

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I'm sorry I bought this without an AI. Playing against yourself, is like playing Tic Tac Toe.

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RE: What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/20/2015 5:33:37 PM

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Hot Seat and Solitaire are a little different. Hot Seat was designed for two people to play on the same computer (hence the name). Neither one has many bugs left to eradicate. Both can be played by two or more players using screen and mouse sharing programs. Both can be played by email but the game requires a great deal of interaction, so by email it could be a very slow process without some form of "standing orders" agreement between the players. With Hot Seat there is an attempt made to keep certain things that are supposed to be hidden from the other side, stay hidden. But essentially, either in-person or with screen sharing or via PBEM, it's an honor system with respect to those. Also, IIRC, only beta versions allow die rolls to be set if playing Hot Seat versus Solitaire.

Two-player NetPlay has really come a long way, but currently has more bugs than the other two modes mentioned, mostly in the naval phases of the game. Current efforts are focused on NetPlay as well as fixing any major bugs that are discovered.

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RE: What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/20/2015 6:43:59 PM

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I'm sorry I bought this without an AI. Playing against yourself, is like playing Tic Tac Toe.

Errrrr that is politically incorrect careful

I rarely win at tic tac toe

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RE: What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/26/2015 6:46:44 AM

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I am sorry I bought this game, too. There was a promise of an AI opponent, but so far there has been absolutely zero progress on it.

What a bunch of hooey the developers and Matrix Games told us when this game released.

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RE: What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/26/2015 7:26:38 PM

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I am sorry I bought this game, too. There was a promise of an AI opponent, but so far there has been absolutely zero progress on it.

What a bunch of hooey the developers and Matrix Games told us when this game released.

Hi jg glad you are still around and Merry Cristmas to you and your family. I know it would be a nicer xmas if netplay and the AI were up and running, the fact is they are not. But I am conviced [I think

] that as things stand right now the netplay must be finished before the AI, and all of the bugs that are still being seen must be elimated before Steve can even hope to start on an AI.

Nobody wants the AI more than I do, but right now if Steve could get these half maps out to the players it would be a big boost to players morale, they are very good scenarios, Fascist Tide and Day Of Infamy.

I am not a homeboy meaning I do not always agree with the way things have been run here in what should have priority but the powers that be understand things better than I do as I am not business oriented.

There is one thing that I am very comfortable with and that is we could not have a better advocate for MWIF than Steve, he is not rushing to his next great adventure game ala Gary Grigsby [not a dig, good programmer] this is it for Steve, it is his passion and he is dedicated to finishing this truly great game.

Matrix has been fair with Steve time wise even though the general public is a little or a lot miffed. How many games that you do not play anymore or still play that still need attention but those programmers have moved on and really it says to hell with all of you we are on to bigger and better games.

Steve will not do that, this is his game and god willing if he remains in decent health we will see this game finished. There is just too much pride here to call it quits, this is his baby and with the tender care this complicated game requires he will finish it.

Bo

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RE: What is solitaire mode> Is there a functioning AI? - 12/26/2015 11:42:56 PM

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Agreed. Steve is all in on this game and if anyone can do it, he can. I am glad ADG and Matrix are still on board as well. Grateful for these forums too. Thanks and keep up the good work.

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