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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/22/2015 10:58:39 PM   
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GA Maxim Purkaev’s 13th Army supported by guards rifle corps of 1st Baltic Front which had now arrived north of the River Drut, forced back 255th Infantry Division of II Corps along with 112th and 129th Infantry Divisions, one of which at least assigned to Generallieutenant F Schultz LIII Corps. With this step complete, Chernyakhovsky was ready to drive his tank forces south to perform a link up with the 2nd and 3rd Shock Armies. Within hours, the T-34s of 5th Shock and 1st Guards Tank Armies were racing westwards from their staging areas.



GL KK Rokossovsky’s 5th Shock Army supported by A. Zhadov’s 10th Army of 3rd Belorussian Front drove back the 252nd Infantry Division of XII Corps Generaloberst H Recknagel, along with 267th Infantry Division of XX Corps and 88th Infantry Division of Generaloberst Traugott Herr’s LVI Panzer Corps.



While this last battle was being played out, frantic messages were being sent to the headquarters of German Army Group Center that enemy elements of what was believed to be 3rd Shock Army had advanced from Klichev and were in the process of linking up with Rokossovsky’s 5th Shock Army. The specter of encirclement and disaster loomed over the German forces still under orders to hold their positions along the Dnepr. Moreover, there were no longer any communications from the towns of Bobryusk and Osipovich, west of the Berezina and equally worse, the latter town some 80 miles west of the Dnepr!

11th Guards Army which had opened the attacks of 1st Baltic Front now were in at its conclusion, assisted by the timely arrival of Pavel Rotmistrov’s 1st Guards Tank Army. Together they drove back 30th Infantry Division of II Corps along with 252nd and 88th Infantry Divisions. The door on the Germans in the area of Mogilev along the Dnepr was slammed shut as Rotmistrov maneuvered his tank troops into the necessary blocking positions.



It had been expected by the STAVKA planners that if the Germans gave ground in the center before Bagration began, that it might be possible that a rearguard screen force left by them along the Dnepr might be surrounded and yield a pocket from 75,000-90,000 men. The reality was different. In fact, 250,000 were cut off. Nineteen infantry divisions. The 5th Panzer Division of Herr’s LVI Panzer Corps. And they were cut off by 20 miles of Soviet tank, cavalry and mechanized forces in highly defendable terrain.



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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/23/2015 8:31:13 AM   
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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/23/2015 11:40:33 PM   
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3rd Belorussian Front assaulted the Germans in the northern portion of the pocket this week while 2nd Belorussian smashed resistance in the southern portion. Total losses for the Germans within the pocket consisted of 238,633 men, (over 220,000 of whom were prisoners) 2,922 artillery and 265 armored vehicles. 90,000 of these prisoners were sent to Moscow to be paraded through the city streets. Soviet losses were 5,354 men, 80 artillery and 14 fighting vehicles. It was Tannenburg in reverse, one and a half times over. More Germans surrendered in the pocket during this one week than had done so in the entire three year campaign.

The bridgehead over the Berezina was still held by Bagramyan's forces at Bobryusk. The Germans predictably brought in reinforcements to plug the potential breach. Still, the significance of what had been accomplished was not lost on either side. A general offensive across the entire length of the front was now called for. It would be a week before 2nd and 3rd Belorussian could return to marching west as partisans continued their efforts in disrupting German rail, but the other fronts could now advance. The German armor had disappeared from the Baltic states and this area could now be cleared of what amounted to screening forces. In the south the entire Yuzhny Bug defensive line had been abandoned by Axis troops. An advance to the Carpathians was underway with the liberation of Proskurov and Rovno by troops of Vatutin's 1st Ukrainian and Meretskov's 2nd Ukrainian Fronts while farther south the road to Bessarabia was clear. A determined effort here could knock Rumania from the war.


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North



Center



Southern advance

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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/26/2015 2:37:53 AM   
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The Leningrad Front advances into Estonia while Minsk becomes a front line city. A general advance in the south also continues.










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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/26/2015 4:46:30 AM   
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Estonia appears to have been abandoned by the Germans. Leningrad Front advances without contact there. In Latvia, 2nd and 3rd Baltic Fronts follow a retreating foe.

Maksim Purkaev's 13th Army routs a defending security regiment from Minsk, and the capital of Belarus is liberated after over three years of occupation.

In the south, the Lvov Sandomierz Strategic Offensive is underway, with the goal of taking the fight west to Lvov and then northwest over the River Vistula. At this point Vatutin's 1st Ukrainian Front is north of Konev's 1st Belorussian Front. Vatutin will advance his armies to the west, while Konev advances northwest, eventually reversing their respective positions in order that the three Belorussian fronts are grouped together.

In the Tarnopol-Stanislav-Chernovtsy region the 2nd Ukrainian, 4th Ukrainian, and North Caucasus Fronts are ordered to seize the towns of Stryi, Delyatin and Suceava which are towns along rail lines leading through the Carpathian Mountains. This will prevent the enemy from easily reinforcing the line across the Carpathians.

In the far south, the area east of the River Prut is largely cleared.


Through Estonia



Latvia and Lithuania



Minsk liberated!



Lvov Offensive



To the Carpathians



Clearing Bessarabia



ground losses



air losses



leaders listed by victories


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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/26/2015 4:08:02 PM   
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Little to report outside of the far south as the general advance continues across the entire front.

Red Army troops are over the River Prut in strength. The Rumanians are no doubt wavering at this stage.


Strategic overview north



Strategic overview center



Strategic overview south



Over the Prut

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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/26/2015 8:17:56 PM   
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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/26/2015 9:49:44 PM   
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I could make it The Marshal Kulik Memoirs, I suppose. But he's about as dead as Zhukov at least career-wise.

Pavlov's Postings? I'll have to think about it.

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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/26/2015 10:01:58 PM   
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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/26/2015 11:53:55 PM   
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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/27/2015 3:03:28 AM   
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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/28/2015 4:11:47 AM   
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Soviet intelligence reports that certain German officers attempted and failed to eliminate their supreme leader. Meanwhile Rumania totters on the verge of collapse as the Red Army cavalrymen of 8th Guards Army have surrounded much of Rumania's army.



Troops of 3rd Belorussian Front are now only 20 miles from East Prussia.



The Lvov Offensive continues. Now only 20 miles to this important objective.



5th Mechanized Corps of 5th Guards Tank army finds one of the rail lines through the Carpathian Mountains virtually unguarded so it attempts to force its way through.



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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/28/2015 10:30:06 PM   
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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/28/2015 10:53:26 PM   
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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/29/2015 4:33:34 PM   
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Leningrad Front has only the port of Kuressare on the island of Saaremaa to liberate before Estonia is free. Riga is liberated as a lone security regiment is driven back.

Troops of the 1st Baltic Front have the honor to be the first to enter East Prussia.

In the south, a major Axis pullback makes the surrounding of Lvov and Stanislav simple task for the Red Army.

The attempted crossing of the Carpathians by 5th Guards tank Army has been thwarted by the arrival of two German divisions.

In Rumania, a period of quiet has largely replaced the sound of the guns. The Rumanian government sees there is no longer any point in fighting along side the Axis and surrenders. Her armies are to be quickly reorganized largely under Soviet leadership.


Estonia



Riga



Into East Prussia



Lvov



Stanislav



Rumania



OOB now over 11 million

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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/31/2015 3:32:59 AM   
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The Red Army continues to surge forward in mid-summer. Third Belorussian Front to date has focused it's advance due west according to STAVKA directives. Comrade Stalin now insists it is time to accelerate the timetable for the re-occupation of the remaining territory in Latvia, Lithuania and the easternmost part of East Prussia now abandoned by the Germans. He orders General Armii Chernyakhovsky to send 1st Guards Tank Army and 1st Shock Army in the northwest direction to seize Insterburg, Tilsit and the port of Memel. This will facilitate the advance of Marshal Timoshenko's 3rd Baltic Front to the west.

In the south, the Lvov-Sandomierz Offensive continues as 1st Belorussian and 1st Ukrainian Fronts head for the Vistula. This in turn should force the Germans to abandon their positions along the River Bug opposing 2nd Ukrainian Front.

The Transcaucasus Front under General Polkovnik Kirponos begins its movement north through the Transylvanian Alps with our new Rumanian allies.











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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/31/2015 4:26:25 AM   
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38th Rifle Corps of Leningrad Front's 28th Army moves into the port of Kuressare which formally clears Estonia. In the area of the Courland Peninsula, 6th Cavalry Corps sweeps by the port of Liepaja and heads for the remaining Latvian port of Ventspils.

To the immediate south, 3rd Baltic Front makes considerable progress westwards, demonstrating Comrade Stalin's keen insight into military affairs (even if there are those in STAVKA that will not acknowledge it) .

In sun-baked Galicia, the Lvov-Sanomierz Offensive continues to gain ground. STAVKA has identified possible crossing points as our rifle corps continue their relentless march to the Vistula. Lublin is now a front line city.

Along the Carpathians, the Hungarians and Germans have brought up sufficient divisions to block immediate progress to the west. The North Caucasus Front of Marshal Shaposhnikov provides a partial screen of these forces, allowing General Armii Eremenko's 4th Ukrainian Front to move more easily to the north.

In the far south, first contact with Axis troops has been made by VII Rumanian Corps. Elsewhere movement continues through the Transylvanian Alps.


Courland



East Prussia



Lvov Sandomierz Offensive (numbers are the count of cross river hexes it can be attacked from, 3 being ideal)



Carpathians



Advancing through Transylvania



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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/31/2015 12:01:57 PM   
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a question for all the veterans, don't you think a 10 MILLION MEN RED ARMY is very Overkill!? does he have NO problems supplying such an Army? even the Allies must tremble in Fear of such a Force!

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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/31/2015 3:26:24 PM   
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Comrade Stalin does not have "overkill" in his vocabulary. Ten thousand guns firing at the enemy hex is good. Twenty thousand is better.

I could kick the OOB up to 12 million in theory by cutting back the tank forces and replacing it with mass infantry, but there is little point.


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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/31/2015 3:45:30 PM   
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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/31/2015 4:44:02 PM   
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RE: The Zhukov Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave redux - 12/31/2015 9:58:44 PM   
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RE: The Zhukov-less Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave... - 1/3/2016 4:52:47 AM   
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The capital of Prussia, Koenigsburg, is defended only by a single German division which is driven from the city.

The Germans abandon their positions on the River Bug and flee to the Vistula in the vicinity of Warsaw. 5th Shock Armies advances 60-70 miles this week to occupy the eastern bank of the Vistula opposite the Polish capital.

Farther south near Sandomierz, final preparations are made for the storming of the Vistula in this region by 1st Ukrainian and 1st Belorussian Fronts under Generals Vatutin and Konev. To their left, 2nd and 4th Ukrainian Fronts advance 30 miles to the west in the direction of Nowy Sacz. Directly to the south lies the strategic Dukla Pass, an area of rough terrain that separates the Tatra Mountains of Slovakia from the Carpathian Mountain Range of Hungary.

In Rumania, the armies continue to work their way through the Transylvanian Alps.












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RE: The Zhukov-less Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave... - 1/6/2016 12:13:49 PM   
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24-30 August 1944 (167th week of the war)

Fyodor Ivanovich Tolbukhin had commanded the 31st Army of the Kalinin Front in the early days of the war. In mid December 1942, General Maior Tolbukhin was transferred to the Stalingrad Front to assume command of the then 63rd Army. By mid March of 1943 he had been promoted to General Leitenant for his work in the Stalingrad area of operations. Three months later, the 63rd Army was awarded the title of the 6th Guards Army in recognition of the Stalingrad Offensive. Tolbukhin's 6th Guards Army fought well during the Summer 1943 campaign, and he was promoted to General Polkovnik in mid-November. During the drive to the Dnepr, his army continued to battle the Germans to such effect that in late March of 1944 he was promoted General Armii.

Tolbukhin had been passed over for assignment to a front command mainly due to the need for expert commanders of rifle armies, of which there were few. He had accepted his situation without complaint as he now found himself in the hot summer of 1944 advancing in Galicia north of the Dukla Pass which served as the far left wing of Hungary's Carpathian Mountain defensive network.

On the 24th of August, Tolbukhin turned his army towards the pass and encountered surprisingly little resistance. Only two Hungarian divisions were assigned to this area, the 7th and 121st Divisions. Within two days, the Hungarians were forced from the Dukla Pass, and the entire 2nd Ukrainian Front quickly followed. With news of this success, Vasilevsky quickly gained Stalin's approval to supplement the advance with Pavel Rybalko's 4th Shock and Aleksei Rodin's 5th Guards Tank Armies. Hundreds of T-34s raced through the pass, over the River Tisa and across the eastern Hungarian plains. On August 29, the 4th Tank Corps of 5th Gds Tank Army captured the city of Nyiregyhasa. (enables the surrender threshold for Hungary. The escape routes of almost all the Axis forces in the Carpathians by way of the Hungarian rail network were soon severed.

Panic gripped Budapest. The Carpathian Mountains which were to have been a bulwark of defense against the Slavic hordes had been completely outflanked in the north. In the south, the Transcaucasus Front of General Kirponos was advancing to link up with Rodin's troops. The bulwark was about to become a giant trap, with almost the entire Hungarian Army and a half dozen German divisions threatened by encirclement.

To the north, and south of Warsaw, the Germans abandon the Vistula defense around Sandomierz, thus formally ending the Lvov Sandomierz Strategic Offensive. STAVKA planners now worked on the next phase in this area, the Vistula Oder Strategic Offensive



The Carpathian Line




The breakout




Rumania




Over the Vistula



OOB


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RE: The Zhukov-less Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave... - 1/6/2016 12:43:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		that breakout into Hungary looks like game set match....as it will remove basically an entire Axis Army to encirclement. An hasten the remainder of the hungarian armies exit from that game....plus expose a huge flank to the German MLR in Poland/Germany. That pass looks to have been one of the most critical in the game.

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RE: The Zhukov-less Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave... - 1/6/2016 1:10:32 PM   
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The three Baltic Fronts and 3rd Belorussian Front advance towards the northern Vistula. Once the limit of advance has been reached for the summer campaign, these forces will occupy positions on the east bank and tie down German divisions while the area south and west of Warsaw is cleared. The operations south of Warsaw are the beginning of the Southern Vistula Offensive, the first phase of the Vistula Oder Strategic Offensive. As the name implies, the STAVKA's strategic objective is to reach the banks of the River Oder.

In Hungary, the Eastern Hungarian Offensive progresses without difficulty as the encirclement is complete. Nine German divisions are included in the pockets both east and south. Recriminations and accusations of betrayal fly between Berlin and Budapest.


Vistula North



Vistula Oder Strategic Offensive



Eastern Hungarian Offensive

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RE: The Zhukov-less Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave... - 1/6/2016 6:51:49 PM   
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Congratulations!!

What about Tolbukhin's memoirs???

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RE: The Zhukov-less Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave... - 1/6/2016 7:28:56 PM   
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RE: The Zhukov-less Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave... - 1/6/2016 8:04:32 PM   
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I'd credit M60A3TTS with exerting a lot of pressure across the front, ever since he forced the Dneipr he's been causing serious problems for the Germans every turn

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RE: The Zhukov-less Memoirs - GC41-45 M60 vs smokindave... - 1/6/2016 8:25:44 PM   
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It's a very stressfull period.

Hold on Dave!

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