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ACW AI v Waterloo AI - 12/24/2015 5:27:41 AM

Tony1961

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Although the Waterloo scenarios look great, I'm not finding them as satisfying to play as Gettysburg. The main reason, I think, is the AI doesn't seem to work as well. For example, the commanders are all suicidal and march blindly into the enemy lines. In Gettysburg, they have the sense to stop behind their lines. Stopping the Waterloo commanders requires a fair degree of micro-management.

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RE: ACW AI v Waterloo AI - 12/24/2015 7:17:36 AM

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not a tech support question, please move back to main, thanks mods

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RE: ACW AI v Waterloo AI - 12/24/2015 8:16:02 AM

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Have you read Mitra's series of guides on the WL AI? Its been improved a lot since Gettysburg and I find the opposite to be true! WL brigade commanders are more careful with their units to a large degree and you certainly don't see the weird effects you'd sometimes see in GB. Brigades deploy earlier and further from a late meeting with an enemy unlike in GB. Remember too that this is a different era and continent with a different style of combat. Napoleonic combat involved (generally speaking) more aggression and more attempts to drive an enemy off a position with a physical approach by battalions and squadrons and less with firepower.

Cavalry of course is all about physical contact (unless its about threat and presence) so you may see some cavalry commanders getting in the thick of it.

Is the issue showing up in a specific scenario or in sandbox? If so what OOB and map?

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RE: ACW AI v Waterloo AI - 12/28/2015 7:14:10 AM

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I see it in everything. I tell the unit where to go and the commander dutifully marches to that spot, usually right through enemy lines, and dies very quickly.

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RE: ACW AI v Waterloo AI - 12/28/2015 8:27:58 AM

Mr Digby

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Are you TC'ing him, or giving him a stance? If you TC him, he will because you have turned the AI off entirely.

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RE: ACW AI v Waterloo AI - 2/11/2016 3:21:30 PM

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I think the poster was talking about HIS units ia and not the enemy
ITs a very Micro managed type game... love it or hate it thats the direction this series is going ....
I was imagining this level of detail for a remake of Iron men and wooden ships...

CHARGE!!!

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RE: ACW AI v Waterloo AI - 2/11/2016 6:56:18 PM

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You can micro-manage if you want or not. I used to TC units a lot in Gettysburg but with Waterloo I trust the AI to be more sensible and find myself often not TCing any units or commanders, just giving them formations and stances. Its very satisfying to see your AI brigade go and kick the backside of another players brigade, who, from the way his general is galloping back and forth you know is TCing his troops ;)

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