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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/19/2015 9:59:30 AM   
Rio Bravo


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Combat Report

for

June 1, 1942


The Red Sun Captures Kweilin:

Ground combat at Kweilin (76,54)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 19201 troops, 146 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 703

Defending force 980 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 13

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 596

Allied adjusted defense: 7

Japanese assault odds: 85 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kweilin !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), preparation(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Allied ground losses:
608 casualties reported
Squads: 32 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 25 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 15 (7 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
104th Division
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st RGC Route Brigade
23rd Army

Defending units:
86th Chinese Corps

Japanese Amphibious Assault Soebi-besar, Kangean, and Sepandjang:

Amphibious Assault at Soebi-besar (57,85)

TF 189 troops unloading over beach at Soebi-besar, 57,85

Japanese ground losses:
161 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (0 destroyed, 4 disabled)

17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 88th Nav Gd /1
17 troops of a SNLF Squad accidentally lost during unload of 88th Nav Gd /4
10 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 88th Nav Gd /5

And Kangean

Amphibious Assault at Kangean (59,105)

TF 307 troops unloading over beach at Kangean, 59,105

Japanese ground losses:
72 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

And Sepandjang

Amphibious Assault at Sepandjang (60,106)

TF 431 troops unloading over beach at Sepandjang, 60,106

Japanese ground losses:
135 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Japanese Shove Back Chinese Near Chihkiang:

Ground combat at 77,50 (near Chihkiang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 49158 troops, 575 guns, 72 vehicles, Assault Value = 1512

Defending force 7959 troops, 82 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 120

Japanese adjusted assault: 1141

Allied adjusted defense: 208

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
505 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 35 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
3162 casualties reported
Squads: 73 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 315 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 27 (20 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Units retreated 5

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
3rd Division
40th Division
57th Infantry Brigade
39th Division
55th Infantry Brigade
2nd RF Gun Battalion
1st JAAF AF Coy
2nd JAAF AF Coy
28th Mountain Gun Regiment
RGC Army
5th RF Gun Battalion
21st Mortar Battalion
8th Mountain Gun Regiment
67th JAAF AF Coy

Defending units:
10th Chinese Corps
74th Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
19th Group Army
29th Group Army
17th Chinese Base Force

Japanese Bombard Chinese Near Tienshui:

Ground combat at 81,39 (near Tienshui)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 42602 troops, 974 guns, 530 vehicles, Assault Value = 1106

Defending force 26177 troops, 89 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 660

Allied ground losses:
216 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
37th Division
7th Ind.Mixed Brigade
59th Infantry Brigade
14th Division
8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Field Artillery Regiment
13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
10th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
7th RF Gun Battalion
1st Mortar Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
6th RF Gun Battalion
26th Field Artillery Regiment
1st Ind. Field Artillery Regiment
5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
4th RF Gun Battalion
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
3rd RF Gun Battalion
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
12th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
7th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
4th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
11th Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
77th Chinese Corps
36th Chinese Corps
120th Red Chinese Division
71st Chinese Corps
129th Red Chinese Division
115th Red Chinese Division
13th Chinese Corps
79th Chinese Corps
6th War Area
14th Group Army
18th Group Army

Allies Remain Stubborn and Hold Ambon Yet Again!

Ground combat at Ambon (76,109)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 9268 troops, 84 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 243

Defending force 2709 troops, 32 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 31

Japanese adjusted assault: 99

Allied adjusted defense: 52

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
159 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
65th Brigade
5th Amphibious Brigade
9th Field AF Construction Battalion

Defending units:
Molukken Garrison Battalion
4th Coastal Gun Battalion
Ambon Base Force

Best Regards,

-Terry

_____________________________

"No one throws me my own guns and tells me to run. No one."

-Bret (James Coburn); The Magnificent Seven

(in reply to Rio Bravo)
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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/20/2015 11:06:48 PM   
Rio Bravo


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Combat Report

for

June 2, 1942


88th Naval Guard Captures Soebi-besar and 1st Sasebo SNLF Coy Captures Spandjang:

Ground combat at Soebi-besar (57,85)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 835 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 20

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 18

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 18 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese CAPTURE Soebi-besar !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker:

Assaulting units:
88th Naval Guard Unit

And 1st Sasebo SNLF Coy Captures Sepandjang

Ground combat at Sepandjang (60,106)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 473 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 9

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Sepandjang !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
1st Sasebo SNLF Coy

Japanese Hammer Back Chinese Near Chungking:

Ground combat at 91,38 (near Chengting)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10078 troops, 70 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 381

Defending force 8659 troops, 48 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 196

Japanese adjusted assault: 238

Allied adjusted defense: 103

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
163 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
2043 casualties reported
Squads: 118 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 183 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 16 (16 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 4

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
11th Indpt Infantry Regiment
56th Infantry Brigade
12th Indpt Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
35th Chinese Corps
83rd Chinese Corps
3rd Prov Chinese Corps
13th Group Army



_____________________________

"No one throws me my own guns and tells me to run. No one."

-Bret (James Coburn); The Magnificent Seven

(in reply to Rio Bravo)
Post #: 512
RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/21/2015 11:19:02 AM   
Rio Bravo


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Combat Report

for

June 3, 1942


News Flash: El Lobo invades Ceylon!

Japanese Finally Capture Ambon:

Ground combat at Ambon (76,109)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 9349 troops, 84 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 247

Defending force 2563 troops, 32 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 23

Japanese adjusted assault: 100

Allied adjusted defense: 46

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Ambon !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
125 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1615 casualties reported
Squads: 89 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 280 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 40 (40 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 3

Assaulting units:
65th Brigade
5th Amphibious Brigade
9th Field AF Construction Battalion

Defending units:
Molukken Garrison Battalion
4th Coastal Gun Battalion
Ambon Base Force

Japanese Battleship Bombards Trincomalee:

Night Naval bombardment of Trincomalee at 31,47 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

BB Hiei firing at Trincomalee Fortress

Trincomalee Fortress firing at BB Hiei

Japanese Amphibious Assualts Trincomalee:

Amphibious Assault at Trincomalee (31,47)

TF 272 troops unloading over beach at Trincomalee, 31,47

Japanese ground losses:
587 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 71 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 79 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 11 (0 destroyed, 11 disabled)

Japanese Destroys Chinese 10th Corps Near Chihkiang:

Ground combat at 77,50 (near Chihkiang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 49038 troops, 575 guns, 72 vehicles, Assault Value = 1503

Defending force 130 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 940

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 940 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker:

Allied ground losses:
179 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 36 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
39th Division
40th Division
3rd Division
57th Infantry Brigade
55th Infantry Brigade
5th RF Gun Battalion
2nd RF Gun Battalion
2nd JAAF AF Coy
RGC Army
21st Mortar Battalion
1st JAAF AF Coy
8th Mountain Gun Regiment
28th Mountain Gun Regiment
67th JAAF AF Coy

Defending units:
10th Chinese Corps

Japanese Shove Allies Back Near Palopo:

Ground combat at 68,103 (near Palopo)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4203 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 161

Defending force 638 troops, 9 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 10

Japanese adjusted assault: 149

Allied adjusted defense: 13

Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
282 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 20 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
10th Garrison Unit

Defending units:
Kendari Garrison Battalion
Kendari Base Force

Japanese Shove Chinese Back Near Bandjermasin:

Ground combat at 60,98 (near Bandjermasin)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3903 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 140

Defending force 535 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 20

Japanese adjusted assault: 63

Allied adjusted defense: 4

Japanese assault odds: 15 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
198 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
11th Garrison Unit

Defending units:
SE Borneo KNIL Battalion

Japanese Destroy Tarakan Base Force Near Tandjoengselor:

Ground combat at 67,93 (near Tandjoengselor)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1468 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 61

Defending force 129 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 59

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 59 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Allied ground losses:
136 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 26 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
85th Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
Tarakan Base Force

Trincomalee Coastal Guns Light Up Japanese Invasion Ships!

Pre-Invasion action off Trincomalee (31,47) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

123 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
DD Yukaze, Shell hits 5, on fire
xAK Brisbane Maru, Shell hits 1
DD Isonami
xAK Arimasan Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
xAK Katuragi Maru, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Syozui Maru
PB Nanrei Maru
PB Kenan Maru
PB Kunitu Maru
PB Hakkaisan Maru
PB Bunzan Maru
AK Yamasimo Maru

Japanese ground losses:
186 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

DD Yukaze firing at Trincomalee Fortress
Trincomalee Fortress firing at DD Yukaze
6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAK Brisbane Maru at 6,000 yards
DD Yukaze firing to suppress enemy battery at 6,000 yards
6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAK Arimasan Maru at 6,000 yards
DD Yukaze firing to suppress enemy battery at 6,000 yards
6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAK Katuragi Maru at 6,000 yards
DD Yukaze firing to suppress enemy battery at 6,000 yards
PB Syozui Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Nanrei Maru fired at enemy guns
PB Kenan Maru fired at enemy guns
PB Kunitu Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Hakkaisan Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Bunzan Maru fired at enemy guns
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards

Allies Hold Their Ground Near Makassar!

Ground combat at 65,105 (near Makassar)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1222 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 42

Defending force 639 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 17

Japanese adjusted assault: 19

Allied adjusted defense: 11

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
73 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
16th Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
Makassar Garrison Battalion

Allies Bommbard Japanese at Trincomalee!

Ground combat at Trincomalee (31,47)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7104 troops, 71 guns, 45 vehicles, Assault Value = 141

Defending force 2513 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 68

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
Trincomalee Fortress
99th Indian Brigade

Defending units:
143rd Infantry Regiment

Best Regard,

-Terry

_____________________________

"No one throws me my own guns and tells me to run. No one."

-Bret (James Coburn); The Magnificent Seven

(in reply to Rio Bravo)
Post #: 513
RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/24/2015 5:38:15 AM   
Rio Bravo


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A Sad Day

for

El Lobo


Yesterday, El Lobo found his dog (Samson) dead.

El Lobo isn't sure what caused Samson's death, but he suspects that someone poisoned Samson.

El Lobo loved that dog.

I suspect that right now El Lobo feels much like completing a turn 180 and sending it to me. Accordingly, it might be a couple days before we get back into the war.

Rest in Peace Samson.

Best Regards,

-Terry

< Message edited by Rio Bravo -- 12/24/2015 6:39:02 AM >

_____________________________

"No one throws me my own guns and tells me to run. No one."

-Bret (James Coburn); The Magnificent Seven

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/25/2015 2:01:24 PM   
Rio Bravo


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Question

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The War College


Opening Note

El Lobo has landed at Trincomalee and three BBs with two APDs are two hexes away from Colombo.

Intelligence suggests that El Lobo doesn't have any Carriers nearby (Allied Subs and Allied Aircraft have not spotted any Japanese Carriers).

I have all Dutch Subs very close and they are closing in on the task forces at Trincomalee and the one close to Colombo.

I have also formed 4 separate Carrier Fleets and one Surface Bombardment Fleet in Bombay and they are headed toward Ceylon in an effort to intercept his task forces and destroy them.

Present Settings for Aircraft

I want to inflict as much damage as possible (the reason I have set the Bombers altitude so low).

The following Task Forces are set with Reaction at 3. All five Task Forces are moving together (i.e., traveling in the same hex together).

Right now the Torpedo Bombers are set at 2,000 feet with a range of three.

Fighters are set for 50% Escort and 50% CAP; all flying at 15,000 feet with range of three.

The Question

What are your recommended settings for Carrier Aircraft; the torpedo bombers and fighters?

Best Regards,

-Terry

_____________________________

"No one throws me my own guns and tells me to run. No one."

-Bret (James Coburn); The Magnificent Seven

(in reply to Rio Bravo)
Post #: 515
RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/25/2015 2:03:15 PM   
Rio Bravo


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rio Bravo

A Sad Day

for

El Lobo


Yesterday, El Lobo found his dog (Samson) dead.

El Lobo isn't sure what caused Samson's death, but he suspects that someone poisoned Samson.

El Lobo loved that dog.

I suspect that right now El Lobo doesn't feel much like completing a turn 180 and sending it to me. Accordingly, it might be a couple days before we get back into the war.

Rest in Peace Samson.

Best Regards,

-Terry



_____________________________

"No one throws me my own guns and tells me to run. No one."

-Bret (James Coburn); The Magnificent Seven

(in reply to Rio Bravo)
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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/25/2015 4:22:19 PM   
BBfanboy


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Status: offline 		Altitude depends on many things including weather.

TBs I always send in as low as possible (1000 feet) to decrease detection time and (assuming most CAP will be high to get the "bounce") to avoid most of the CAP.

DBs have their best accuracy making a DB attack which must start between 10,000 and 19,000 feet. I almost always use 10,000 .... however, if weather is poor causing a low cloud ceiling (overcast, or any rain condition) I send them level bombing at 3000 or 4000 feet. Early on Japanese AA is poor.

2 engine LBs go in at 4000 feet to avoid light AA but still have a good chance of getting hits. I would not send them after the BB group where their bombs will be ineffective. Have a sweep or two go into the target hex since any escort with the LB will be too low to defend much.

HBs can fend for themselves better but need to be low enough to get hits. Go down to 6000 feet if house rules allow, otherwise use the usual 10000 foot lower limit.

I doubt very much that such an invasion and SCTF have no carrier support. Check the D/L on you subs - if they are all high in an area that is where the enemy CVs are. Your Op Report may also list sightings of CV type aircraft.

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/26/2015 3:05:53 AM   
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Combat Report

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June 4, 1942


Japanese Amphibious Assault at Great Nicobar:

Amphibious Assault at Great Nicobar (43,66)

TF 169 troops unloading over beach at Great Nicobar, 43,66

Japanese ground losses:
217 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost in surf during unload of 44th Nav Gd
6 troops of a SNLF HMG Squad lost overboard during unload of 44th Nav Gd /3

Japanese Land More Troops at Trincomalee:

Amphibious Assault at Trincomalee (31,47)

TF 279 troops unloading over beach at Trincomalee, 31,47

Japanese ground losses:
297 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost in surf during unload of 4th Div
19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 4th Div /3
19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad accidentally lost during unload of 4th Div /4

Japanese Attack Chinese at Sining:

Ground combat at Sining (80,32)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4265 troops, 2 guns, 504 vehicles, Assault Value = 369

Defending force 10711 troops, 64 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 195

Japanese adjusted assault: 151

Allied adjusted defense: 238

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 24 (2 destroyed, 22 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1309 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 101 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 52 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled

Assaulting units:
10th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
5th Armored Car Co
8th Recon Regiment
12th Tank Regiment
11th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
27th Chinese Corps
82nd Chinese Corps
34th Separate Brigade
303rd Brigade
8th War Area
19th Chinese Base Force
8th Chinese Base Force
21st Chinese Base Force

Japanese Shove Allies Back Near Makassar:

Ground combat at 65,105 (near Makassar)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1233 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 42

Defending force 592 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10

Japanese adjusted assault: 17

Allied adjusted defense: 5

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), morale(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
229 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
16th Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
Makassar Garrison Battalion

Trincomalee Coastal Guns Lay Waste to Some Japanese!

Pre-Invasion action off Trincomalee (31,47)

106 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Suyozai Maru
PB Tatebu Maru
PB Kashiwa Maru
PB Higashiyama Maru
PB Toyotu Maru
PB Tomitu Maru
PB Kamitsu Maru
PB Eiko Maru
DD Sanae
xAP Kashima Maru

Japanese ground losses:
114 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

PB Suyozai Maru fired at enemy guns
PB Tatebu Maru fired at enemy guns
PB Kashiwa Maru fired at enemy guns
PB Higashiyama Maru fired at enemy guns
PB Toyotu Maru fired at enemy guns
PB Tomitu Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Kamitsu Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Eiko Maru fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards

Allies Bombard Japanese at Trincomalee!

Ground combat at Trincomalee (31,47)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7104 troops, 71 guns, 45 vehicles, Assault Value = 141

Defending force 3104 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 92

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
Trincomalee Fortress
99th Indian Brigade

Defending units:
143rd Infantry Regiment
4th Div /2

Best Regards,

-Terry

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Altitude depends on many things including weather.

TBs I always send in as low as possible (1000 feet) to decrease detection time and (assuming most CAP will be high to get the "bounce") to avoid most of the CAP.

DBs have their best accuracy making a DB attack which must start between 10,000 and 19,000 feet. I almost always use 10,000 .... however, if weather is poor causing a low cloud ceiling (overcast, or any rain condition) I send them level bombing at 3000 or 4000 feet. Early on Japanese AA is poor.

2 engine LBs go in at 4000 feet to avoid light AA but still have a good chance of getting hits. I would not send them after the BB group where their bombs will be ineffective. Have a sweep or two go into the target hex since any escort with the LB will be too low to defend much.

HBs can fend for themselves better but need to be low enough to get hits. Go down to 6000 feet if house rules allow, otherwise use the usual 10000 foot lower limit.

I doubt very much that such an invasion and SCTF have no carrier support. Check the D/L on you subs - if they are all high in an area that is where the enemy CVs are. Your Op Report may also list sightings of CV type aircraft.


BBfanboy-

Thank you for your recommendations regarding settings for Carrier Aircraft.

The Allies still haven't spotted any enemy Carriers near Ceylon, but now I am a tad concerned!

I may have to rethink sending the British Carriers and Surface Fleet down to Ceylon. I don't think I could stomach losing the Prince of Whales, Repulse, Houston, and Danae.

This is going to be a tough call.

Best Regards,

-Terry

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Status: offline 		If you can stay NW of Ceylon while launching your carrier aircraft and no sign of KB or MKB, you should be all right. 9 hexes is max range for Kate/Jill bombers and too far for Vals (and, I believe, Judys). Zeros can go to 14 hexes with drop tanks.

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

If you can stay NW of Ceylon while launching your carrier aircraft and no sign of KB or MKB, you should be all right. 9 hexes is max range for Kate/Jill bombers and too far for Vals (and, I believe, Judys). Zeros can go to 14 hexes with drop tanks.



BBfanboy-

A Japanese Surface Combat Task Force is about three hexes northeast of colombo and another about three hexes southeast of trincomalee.

I still don't see any Japanese Carriers.

The four British Carriers now have their aircraft set pursuant to your recommendations and are 7 hexes south of Bombay heading toward Colombo along with the Prince of Whales Surface Combat Fleet.

I may still decide to turn them around for fear of the damn Japanese Carriers being somewhere close by.

Best Regards,

-Terry



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Combat Report

for

June 5, 1942


Japanese Carriers (the Suryu, Hiryu, Shokaku, and Zuikaku) are off the coast of Ceylon. One Allied Mitchel Bomber Squadron was given orders to bomb the Japanese ground troops that landed at Trincomalee. Japanese Zeros intercepted the Allied Bombers: destroyed 2, damaged 6, and the bombers didn't bomb the Japanese ground troops. The four British Carrier fleets and the Prince of Whales Surface Combat fleet are South of Bombay steaming for the Ceylon Area. The War College will meet and decide whether the Allied fleets continue toward Ceylon to intercept the enemy or turn around and head back to Bombay.

Japanese Amphibious Assault Bara:

Amphibious Assault at Bara (74,107)

TF 342 troops unloading over beach at Bara, 74,107

Japanese ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)

17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost overboard during unload of 18th Nav Gd /3
17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 18th Nav Gd /3

Japanese Bombard Chinese Near Tienshui:

Ground combat at 81,39 (near Tienshui)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 61754 troops, 1161 guns, 583 vehicles, Assault Value = 1740

Defending force 25614 troops, 76 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 633

Allied ground losses:
318 casualties reported
Squads: 25 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
7th Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st Ind.Mixed Brigade
37th Division
10th Division
59th Infantry Brigade
14th Division
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
12th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
10th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
1st Ind. Field Artillery Regiment
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
4th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
26th Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
15th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd RF Gun Battalion
8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
4th RF Gun Battalion
1st Field Artillery Regiment
1st Mortar Battalion
7th RF Gun Battalion
7th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
6th RF Gun Battalion
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
11th Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
115th Red Chinese Division
120th Red Chinese Division
13th Chinese Corps
129th Red Chinese Division
71st Chinese Corps
77th Chinese Corps
36th Chinese Corps
79th Chinese Corps
14th Group Army
6th War Area
18th Group Army

Japanese Submarine SS I-10 Heavily Damages xAK Taiyin Off Colombo:

Submarine attack near Colombo at 27,49

Japanese Ships
SS I-10

Allied Ships
xAK Tai Yin, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

xAK Tai Yin is sighted by SS I-10
SS I-10 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Tai Yin

Japanese Submarine SS RO-63 Hammers xAK Tai Yin Again:

Submarine attack near Colombo at 27,49

Japanese Ships
SS RO-63

Allied Ships
xAK Tai Yin, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

xAK Tai Yin is sighted by SS RO-63
SS RO-63 launches 2 torpedoes

Japanese Carriers Launch Zeros to Intercept Mitchell Bombers Near Trincomalee:

Morning Air attack on 143rd Infantry Regiment, at 31,47 (Trincomalee)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 2000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead

Also attacking 4th Div /2 ...
Also attacking 143rd Infantry Regiment ...

Trincomalee Coastal Guns Hammer Japanese Transports!

Invasion Support action off Trincomalee (31,47) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

62 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
DD Sanae
PB Suyozai Maru
PB Tatebu Maru
PB Kashiwa Maru
PB Higashiyama Maru
PB Toyotu Maru
PB Tomitu Maru
PB Kamitsu Maru
PB Eiko Maru
xAP Kashima Maru

Japanese ground losses:
51 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Trincomalee Fortress firing at DD Sanae
DD Sanae firing at Trincomalee Fortress
PB Suyozai Maru fired at enemy guns
PB Tatebu Maru fired at enemy guns
PB Kashiwa Maru fired at enemy guns
PB Higashiyama Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Toyotu Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Tomitu Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Kamitsu Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Eiko Maru fired at enemy guns
DD Sanae fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards

And Again!

Invasion Support action off Trincomalee (31,47)

51 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Suyozai Maru
PB Tatebu Maru
PB Kashiwa Maru
PB Higashiyama Maru
PB Toyotu Maru
PB Tomitu Maru
PB Kamitsu Maru
PB Eiko Maru
xAP Kashima Maru
DD Sanae

Japanese ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

PB Suyozai Maru fired at enemy guns
PB Tatebu Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Kashiwa Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Higashiyama Maru fired at enemy guns
PB Toyotu Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Tomitu Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Kamitsu Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Eiko Maru fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards

And Once Again!

Invasion Support action off Trincomalee (31,47)

48 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Suyozai Maru
PB Tatebu Maru
PB Kashiwa Maru
PB Higashiyama Maru
PB Toyotu Maru
PB Tomitu Maru
PB Kamitsu Maru
PB Eiko Maru
xAP Kashima Maru
DMS W-1
DD Sanae

Japanese ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

PB Suyozai Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Tatebu Maru fired at enemy guns
PB Kashiwa Maru fired at enemy guns
PB Higashiyama Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Toyotu Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Tomitu Maru fired at enemy guns
PB Kamitsu Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Eiko Maru fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards

And One Last time; This Time Hammering Japanese Transports!

Invasion Support action off Trincomalee (31,47)

60 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAK Azuma Maru, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DMS W-1
xAP Hakone Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Kashima Maru
DD Sanae

Japanese ground losses:
65 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAK Azuma Maru at 10,000 yards
DMS W-1 firing to suppress enemy battery at 10,000 yards
6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAP Hakone Maru at 10,000 yards
DMS W-1 firing to suppress enemy battery at 10,000 yards
6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAP Hakone Maru at 10,000 yards
DMS W-1 firing to suppress enemy battery at 10,000 yards
DMS W-1 fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards

Allies Bombard Japanese at Trincomalee!

Ground combat at Trincomalee (31,47)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7096 troops, 71 guns, 45 vehicles, Assault Value = 141

Defending force 5380 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 177

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
Trincomalee Fortress
99th Indian Brigade

Defending units:
143rd Infantry Regiment
4th Div /2

Best Regards,

-Terry

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Ground Forces and Aircraft Deployment
June 5, 1942


Outpost Early Warning Bases

Note: If the Japanese invade and threaten any of these Early Warning Bases, the ground forces and aircraft garrisoned will quickly move to the Whyalla-Brisbane Line or points South thereof.

Darwin

Port Capacity: 3 (41%)
Airfield Capacity: 3 (82%)
Fortifications: 2 (73%)

Supply: 9,769
Fuel: 7,597

Total Aircraft: 14

Ground Forces:

CD Emery Point Fort

Total Assault Strength: 27


Katherine

Port Capacity: 0
Airfield Capacity: 4 (24%)
Fortifications: 3 (29%)

Supply: 2,135
Fuel: 0

Total Aircraft: 2

Ground Forces:

ENG 10 Patl RAAF Wing
ENG NW Aus Aviation Rgt
ENG NW Aus BF
ENG 1 Fgtr. RAAF Wing
INF 211 NAOU Det.
CD A/B Battery Heavy Cst. AA

Total Assault Strength: 57

Tennant Creek

Port Capacity: 0
Airfield Capacity: 1 (59%)
Fortifications: 2 (14%)

Supply: 129
Fuel: 0

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

ENG Tennant Creek RAAF BF

Total Assault Strength: 6

Alice Springs

Port Capacity: 0
Airfield Capacity: 4
Fortifications: 4 (11%)

Supply: 2,152
Fuel: 0

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

ENG 11 RAAF BF
INF 19 Aus Bn
ENG 2 RAN BF
ENG Darwin RAAF BF
ENG Derby RAN BF
ENG Katherine RAAF BF
HQc Northern Territory
ENG Wyndham RAAF BF
ENG Broome RAN BF (2 hexes North in route to Alice Springs)

Total Assault Strength: 87

Geraldton

Port Capacity: 1 (61%)
Airfield Capacity: 2 (91%)
Fortifications: 2 (60%)

Supply: 144
Fuel: 1,009

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

CD Geraldton Fort

Total Assault Strength: 9

Perth

Port Capacity: 5
Airfield Capacity: 4
Fortifications: 3 (34%)

Supply: 1,091
Fuel: 0

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

CD Freemantle Fort

Total Assault Strength: 27

Kalgoorlie

Port Capacity: 0
Airfield Capacity: 1
Fortifications: 2 (49%)

Supply: 105
Fuel: 0

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

ENG Carnavon RAN BF

Total Assault Strength: 3

Albany

Port Capacity: 3 (36%)
Airfield Capacity: 1 (60%)
Fortifications: 2 (49%)

Supply: 90
Fuel: 3,009

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

CD Princess Royal Fort

Total Assault Strength: 9

Ceduna

Port Capacity: 1
Airfield Capacity: 1
Fortifications: 3 (59%)

Supply: 426
Fuel: 1,009

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

ENG 17 RAAF BF

Total Assault Strength: 6

Main Defensive Position Bases

Whyalla

Port Capacity: 2
Airfield Capacity: 1
Fortifications: 3 (3%)

Supply: 1,134
Fuel: 2,003

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

INF 13 Australian Bde
ENG 4 RAAF BF

Total Assault Strength: 136

Port Augusta

Port Capacity: 3
Airfield Capacity: 3
Fortifications: 4 (10%)

Supply: 2,495
Fuel: 3,002

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

ENG 12 RAAF BF
INF 3 Australian Bde
CD 7 RAA Cst Art Rgt
ENG Geraldton RAN BF
ENG RAAF OUT Augusta
HQc III Australian

Total Assault Strength: 145

Broken Hill

Port Capacity: 0
Airfield Capacity: 2
Fortifications: 3 (80%)

Supply: 1,702
Fuel: 0

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

ENG 4 RAN BF
ENG 5 RAAF BF
INF 6 Aus Cav Bde

Total Assault Strength: 116

Bourke

Port Capacity: 0
Airfield Capacity: 1
Fortifications: 3 (21%)

Supply: 1,168
Fuel: 0

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:
ENG 13 RAAF BF
ENG 1 RAAF BF
ARM 4 Aus Cav Bde

Total Assault Strength: 115

Toowoomba

Port Capacity: 0
Airfield Capacity: 3
Fortifications: 3 (70%)

Supply: 1,593
Fuel: 0

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

ARM 3 Army Tank Bde
ENG 6 RAN BF

Total Assault Strength: 111

Brisbane

Port Capacity: 5
Airfield Capacity: 5
Fortifications: 4 (6%)

Supply: 3,421
Fuel: 4,935

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

INF 11 Australian Bde
INF 7 Australian Bde
ENG Bowen RAN BF
CD Brisbane Fort
HQc II Australian
ENG Rockhampton RAN BF
ENG Brisbane BF

Total Assault Strength: 217

Adelaide

Port Capacity: 5
Airfield Capacity: 5
Fortifications: 3 (77%)

Supply: 1,893
Fuel: 838

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

INF 6 Australian Bde
CD Largs Fort
ENG RAAF OUT Adelaide
Total Assault Strength: 121

Mildura

Port Capacity: 0
Airfield Capacity: 1
Fortifications: 3 (5%)

Supply: 628
Fuel: 0

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

INF 39 Aus Bn
ENG 3 RAAF BF
INF 53 Aus Bn

Total Assault Strength: 90

Roto

Port Capacity: 0
Airfield Capacity: 0 (75%)
Fortifications: 2 (7%)

Supply: 2,137
Fuel: 0

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

INF 14 Australian Bde
INF 44 Aus Bn
ENG Albany RAN BF
ART 2/16 Field Rgt
INF 8 Australian Bde

Total Assault Strength: 222

Tamworth

Port Capacity: 0
Airfield Capacity: 2
Fortifications: 3 (6%)

Supply: 1,109
Fuel: 0

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

ENG 14 RAAF BF
INF 29 Australian Bde

Total Assault Strength: 93

Wagga Wagga (Reactionary Force: 2nd Marine Division)

Port Capacity: 0
Airfield Capacity: 5 (38%)
Fortifications: 4 (69%)

Supply: 6,781
Fuel: 0

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

ART 109 Tank Attack Rgt
ENG 101 USN BF
ENG 118 USAAF BF (moving to Melbourne for transport to India)
ENG Raaf OUT Wagga Wagga
ENG 2 USMC Eng Rgt
INF 2 USMC Rgt
INF 2 USMC Raider Bn
INFp 2 USMC Parachute Bn
ART 2 USMC FA Bn
ART 2 USMC Def Bn
ARM 2 USMC Tank Bn
INF 8 USMC Rgt

Total Assault Strength: 520

Canberra

Port Capacity: 0
Airfield Capacity: 3
Fortifications: 3 (74%)

Supply: 1,500
Fuel: 0

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

INF 5 Australian Bde
ENG RAAF OUT Canberra

Total Assault Strength: 101

Bathurst (Reactionary Force: 1st Marine Division)

Port Capacity: 0
Airfield Capacity: 3 (36%)
Fortifications: 4 (22%)

Supply: 3,455
Fuel: 0

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

ENG Bundaberg RAN BF
ENG 102 Combat Eng Rgt
ENG 225 USN BF
HQc I US Amphibious Corps
ART 1 USMC Defense Bn
INF 1 USMC Raider Bn
ART 3 USMC Defense Bn
INF 3 USMC Raider Bn
ART 4 USMC Defense Bn

Total Assault Strength: 252

Portland

Port Capacity: 2
Airfield Capacity: 2
Fortifications: 3 (88%)

Supply: 1,580
Fuel: 2,002

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

ENG 16 RAAF BF
INF 2 Australian Bde
CD 6 RAA Cst Art Rgt

Total Assault Strength: 120

Geelong

Port Capacity: 1
Airfield Capacity: 3
Fortifications: 3 (2%)

Supply: 744
Fuel: 1,009

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

ENG 2 RAAF BF
INF 32 Aus Bn
INF 38 Aus Bn

Total Assault Strength: 90

Melbourne

Port Capacity: 7
Airfield Capacity: 8 (23%)
Fortifications: 3 (57%)

Supply: 239,056
Fuel: 11,369

Total Aircraft: 313

Ground Forces:

HQy 1 Aus Army
CD 2 RAA Cst Art Rgt
INF 4 Australian Bde
ENG RAAF OUT Melbourne

ART 131 FA Bn (moving to India)
ART 148 FA Bn (moving to India)
ART 21/22 Field Rgt (moving to India)
ART 223 FA Bn (moving to India)
ART 2 Medium Rgt (moving to India)
ART 147 FA Rgt (moving to India)
ART 2 Medium Rgt (moving to India)
AA 428 Cst AA Bn (moving to India)
CD 276 Cst AA Bn (moving to India)
ENG 1 RNZAF BF (moving to India)
INF A Coy/NG Rifles (moving to India)
INF C Coy/NG Rifles (moving to India)
INF C Coy/NG Rifles (moving to India)

Total Assault Strength: 137

Portsea

Port Capacity: 1
Airfield Capacity: 1
Fortifications: 3 (41%)

Supply: 907
Fuel: 1,001

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

INF 10 Australian Bde
CD Nepean Fort

Total Assault Strength: 89

Sale

Port Capacity: 2
Airfield Capacity: 2
Fortifications: 3 (14%)

Supply: 763
Fuel: 2,003

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

INF 15 Australian Bde

Total Assault Strength: 89

Port Kembla

Port Capacity: 3
Airfield Capacity: 3
Fortifications: 3 (11%)

Supply: 1,149
Fuel: 2,206

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

AA 4 Aus Lt AA Rgt
INF 9 Australian Bde
CD Battery Heavy Cst ART Rgt

Total Assault Strength: 91

Sydney

Port Capacity: 9
Airfield Capacity: 9
Fortifications: 4 (49%)

Supply: 1,376,987
Fuel: 1,068

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:

INF 1 Australian Bde
ENG 1 RAAF M/W Sqd
AA 2 Aus Heavy AA Rgt
CD 5 RAA Cst Art Rgt
HQ Australian Command
CD Banks Fort
CD North Fort
HQa RAAF Command
ENG RAAF OUT Sydney
AA 13 Aus Heavy AA Rgt
ENG 20th RAAF M/W Sqn
ENG 2 RAAF M/W Sqn
ENG 3 RAAF M/W Sqn
ENG 71 RAAF Wing
ENG 7 RAN BF

Total Assault Strength: 213

Newcastle

Port Capacity: 4
Airfield Capacity: 3
Fortifications: 3 (31%)

Supply: 1,334
Fuel: 2,008

Total Aircraft: 0

Ground Forces:
INF 18 Aus Bn
INF 41 Aus Bn
INF 45 Aus Bn
CD Newcastle Fort

Total Assault Strength: 142

USMC on Transport Task Forces In Route to Australia

ART 1 USMC FA Bn
INFp 1 USMC Parachute Bn
ARM 1 USMC Tank Bn
INF 5 USMC Rgt
INF 6 USMC Rgt
INF 7 USMC Rgt
End Note

Though I am pleased with the progression of the build-up of ports, airfields, and forts, Australia remains in a rather weak condition. The Marines in route to Australia need to pour in before the Japanese pour in.

Best Regards,

-Terry







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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/27/2015 4:15:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Brit CVs can't successfully engage that IJN TF. I would strip the torpedo planes and base them at the closest land base with some fighter support. You likely won't end up with the same numbers or level of co-ordination on attacks but they may at least scare the Japanese CVs away.

*just make sure the base is AirHQ/torpedo equipped!!

< Message edited by pontiouspilot -- 12/27/2015 5:19:47 PM >

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ORIGINAL: pontiouspilot

The Brit CVs can't successfully engage that IJN TF. I would strip the torpedo planes and base them at the closest land base with some fighter support. You likely won't end up with the same numbers or level of co-ordination on attacks but they may at least scare the Japanese CVs away.

*just make sure the base is AirHQ/torpedo equipped!!



pontiouspilot-

Thank you for responding.

Your fellow Canadian, BBfanboy has provided similar advice regarding the British Carriers not being a match for the Japanese Carriers spotted off the coast of Ceylon.

The British Carriers and Prince of Whales Combat surface fleets will do an about face and head for Abadon. If I feel safe enough, I will stop off and unload the aircraft at Bombay.

Best Regards,

-Terry

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/28/2015 11:05:49 AM   
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INDIA

USA FORCES

June 4, 1942


Opening Note

The following U. S. ground troops and aircraft are either in India, in route to India, or earmarked for India.

Considering El Lobo’s recent sinking of an entire Allied Transport Task Force (1 destroyer and 7 xAKs, 1 Base Force and 3 AA units) and his recent invasion of Ceylon, all Transport Task Forces are being rerouted to Diego Garcia, then North, and then East to Bombay. The route is much longer. I am hoping the new route will be safer.

The ground troops at Cape Town are waiting for Political Points to buy them out.

I am presently working on putting together a comprehensive list of all ground troops and all aircraft deployed in India along with the Port, Aircraft, and Fort levels where such forces are presently garrisoned. I hope to have it for the War College within a week or so.

Aircraft

Tenth USAAF (175) Madras
II US Fighters (227) Hyderabad
V US Bombers (154) Hyderabad

Headquarter Units

Pacific Ocean Areas TF 408
SWP Command Ranchi
II US Fighter Command Hyderabad

Base Force Units

110 USA BF Ranchi
112 USA BF Raipur
134 USA BF TF 387
135 USA BF TF 158
138 USA BF TF 113
139 USA BF TF 224
113 USAAF BF Hyderabad
118 USAAF BF Wagga Wagga

Combat Engineer Units

19 Combat Eng. Rgt. Hyderabad
34 Combat Eng. Rgt. TF 284
102 Combat Eng. Rgt. Wagga Wagga

Construction Engineer Units

43 Construction Eng. Rgt. Raipur
46 Construction Eng. Rgt. Ranchi
47 Construction Eng. Rgt. Warangal

Aircraft Engineer Units

810 EAB Hyderabad
811 EAB Ranchi
32 Aviation BF RR to East Coast
33 Aviation BF TF 118

Naval Engineer Units

Bobcats TF 281
F Det. Port Service RR to Ranchi

CD Units

54 Cst. ART Rgt. RR to East Coast
276 Cst. ART Bn. Melbourne

AA Units

428 Cst. AA Bn. Melbourne
64 Cst. AA Rgt. TF 281
65 Cst. AA Rgt. Hyderabad
70 Cst. AA Rgt. Raipur
76 Cst. AA Rgt. RR to East Coast
78 Cst. AA Rgt. Raipur
86 Cst. AA Rgt. RR to East Coast
93 Cst. AA Rgt. TF 446
94 Cst. AA Rgt. TF 358
96 Cst. AA Rgt. RR to Warangal
97 Cst. AA Rgt. TF 358
205 Cst. AA Rgt. Ranchi
206 Cst. AA Rgt. Ranchi
208 Cst. AA Rgt. TF 358
214 Cst. AA Rgt. RR to East Coast
216 Cst. AA Rgt. Hyderabad
217 Cst. AA Rgt. Cape Town
251 Cst. AA Rgt. TF 281

Artillery Units

198 FA Bn. Hyderabad
131 FA Bn. Melbourne
148 FA Bn. Melbourne
205 FA Bn. TF 362
223 FA Bn. Melbourne
30 FA Rgt. Cape Town
40 FA Rgt. Cape Town
147 FA Rgt. Melbourne
168 FA Rgt. Cape Town
181 FA Rgt. Cape Town
183 FA Rgt. Cape Town
188 FA Rgt. Cape Town
21/22 FA Rgt. Melbourne
1 Medium Rgt. TF 322
2 Medium Rgt. Melbourne
109 Tank Attack Rgt. Wagga Wagga

Armor Infantry & Tank Units

159 Mot. Inf. Rgt. Hyderabad
193 Tank Bn. Raipur
754 Tank Bn. Ranchi
762 Tank Bn. TF 266
763 Tank Bn. TF 305

Armor Tank Destroyer Units

627 TD Bn. San Francisco
632 TD Bn. TF 176
637 TD Bn. RR to East Coast
641 Towed TD Bn. Ranchi

Infantry Units

87 Mountain Rgt. Capetown

24 Infantry Division

19 Inf. Rgt. RR to Warangal
21 Inf. Rgt. Warangal
34 Inf. Rgt. Warangal

25 Infantry Division Raipur

27 Infantry Division Cape Town

32 Infantry Division TF 109

40 Infantry Division

108 Inf. Rgt. Hyderabad
160 Inf. Rgt. TF 286
185 Inf. Rgt. TF 288

41 Infantry Division Cape Town

Americal Division Ranchi

Best Regards,

-Terry

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/28/2015 11:15:39 AM   
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Do you have the 6th, 7th OZ and 2nd, 18th British there as well?

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/28/2015 11:55:31 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Wow, you really piled on in India!

Do you have the 6th, 7th OZ and 2nd, 18th British there as well?


Jocke-

Yes.

I also bought out a heap of restricted Australian and New Zealand Armor. These armor units are in India along with the entire Burma Corps and Chinese that are growing (Chinese are presently at 3258 AV...resting and filling TOE).

I plan to push through China to Manchukuo and Korea.

Best Regards,

-Terry

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/28/2015 12:02:39 PM   
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Japanese in China
As of June 4, 1942


Opening Note

I was curious as to the forces El Lobo has dedicated to China. So, I read some of my AARs from April 1, 1942 through April 16, 1942, and then a few recent ones.

This is the list I came up with and I am sure there are more Japanese in China.

It is hard for me to believe that El Lobo has so many Infantry Divisions, Regiments, and Brigades in China!

Are any of you as surprised as I am by this formidable list?

1 Army
3 Army
5 Army
6 Army
11 Army
12 Army
13 Army
23 Army
RGC Army
Mongol Garrison Army

1 JAAF AF Coy
2 JAAF AF Coy
47 JAAF AF Bn
56 JAAF AF Bn
67 JAAF AF Coy
68 JAAF AF Coy
68 JAAF AF Bn

7 Ind. Eng Rgt
9 Ind. Eng Rgt
22 Ind. Eng Rgt
24 Ind. Eng Rgt

27 Electric Eng Rgt

1 Eng Rgt
2 Engineer Rgt
8 Engineer Rgt
26 Eng Rgt
28 Eng Rgt

45 Construction Co
46 Construction Co
49 Construction Co

45 Road Construction Co
46 Road Construction Bn
47 Road Construction Co
48 Road Construction Co
51 Road Construction Co
52 Road Construction Co

4 Garrison Unit

1st RGC Route Bde

3 Ching An Tui Bde

1 Ind. Mixed Bde
2 Ind. Mixed Bde
3 Ind. Mixed Bde
4 Ind. Mixed Bde
7 Ind. Mixed Bde
8 Ind. Mixed Bde
19 Ind. Mixed Bde

11 Ind. Inf Rgt
12 Ind. Inf Reg

55 Infantry Bde
56 Infantry Bde
57 Infantry Bde
59 Infantry Bde
61 Infantry Bde

102 Inf Rgt

1 Recon Rgt
8 Recon Rgt
26 Recon Rgt

12 RGC Temp Div

1 Calvary Bde
4 Calvary Bde
6 Mongol Calvary Div

3 Div
10 Div
12 Div
13 Div
14 Div
23 Div
24 Div
32 Div
34 Div
35 Div
36 Div
37 Div
39 Div
40 Div
41 Div
104 Div
116 Div

5 Armored Car

3 Tank Rgt
5 Tank Rgt
9 Tank Rgt
10 Tank Rgt
11 Tank Rgt
12 Tank Rgt
13 Tank Rgt
15 Tank Rgt
23 Tank Rgt

1 Mortar Bn
21 Mortar Bn

11 Ind. ART Mortar Bn
12 Ind. ART Mortar Bn
13 Ind. ART Mortar Bn


2 RF Gun Bn
3 RF Gun Bn
4 RF Gun Bn
5 RF Gun Bn
6 RF Gun Bn
7 RF Gun Bn

2 Ind. Mtn. Gun Rgt
4 Ind. Mtn. Gun Rgt
51 Ind. Mtn. Gun Bn
52 Ind. Mtn. Gun Bn

8 Mtn. Gun Rgt
28 Mtn. Gun Rgt

Botanko Hvy Gun Rgt
Tonei Hvy Gun Rgt

1 Ind. FA Rgt

1 Ind. Hvy ART Bn
4 Ind. Hvy Art Bn
5 Ind. Hvy ART Bn
6 Ind. Hvy ART Bn
7 Ind. Hvy ART Bn
8 Ind. Hvy ART Bn

15 Ind. Medium FA Rgt

2 Hvy ART Rgt
3 Hvy ART Rgt

1 FA Rgt
11 FA Rgt
26 FA Rgt

1 Medium FA Rgt
2 Medium FA Rgt
4 Medium FA Rgt
5 Medium FA Rgt
6 Medium FA Rgt
7 Medium FA Rgt
9 Medium FA Rgt
10 Medium FA Rgt
12 Medium FA Rgt
14 Medium FA Rgt
15 Medium FA Rgt
20 Medium FA Rgt
22 Medium FA Rgt

Best Regards,

-Terry

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/28/2015 12:12:41 PM   
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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/28/2015 12:20:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

No surprise - China was the most populous country in the world even in the 1940s and even with poorly equipped/poorly trained soldiers, their numbers made them hard to conquer. Many of the IJA units listed appear to be artillery and tanks bought out from Manchukuo (at least we hope PP were paid for them).


BBfanboy-

Nope, El Lobo didn't have to pay Political Points for the Manchukuo troops.

El Lobo and I have only one House Rule, to witt: We are ignoring Victory Points to give us more freedom of choice as to what we want to do and to guarantee that we play the game to the bitter end!

Best Regards,

-Terry

< Message edited by Rio Bravo -- 12/28/2015 1:20:57 PM >

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/28/2015 12:55:41 PM   
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Jocke-

Yes.

I also bought out a heap of restricted Australian and New Zealand Armor. These armor units are in India along with the entire Burma Corps and Chinese that are growing (Chinese are presently at 3258 AV...resting and filling TOE).

I plan to push through China to Manchukuo and Korea.

Best Regards,

-Terry


Interesting tactic! Hard to pull off though. Especially if your opponent doesn´t have to pay PPs to move the Manchurian army into China to block you. Very good defensive terrain all the way!

You will have to take Rangoon (obviously) as well as Thailand. Supply won´t flow in enough numbers through the mountains. Not even sure the extra route though Thailand is enough. Not sure even this is enough though. When I went into China with 12k AV in 45 I couldn´t supply them properly until I was able to ship in supply from Luzon to Haiphong!

Just a word of caution regarding the supply.

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/28/2015 1:48:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rio Bravo
Jocke-

Yes.

I also bought out a heap of restricted Australian and New Zealand Armor. These armor units are in India along with the entire Burma Corps and Chinese that are growing (Chinese are presently at 3258 AV...resting and filling TOE).

I plan to push through China to Manchukuo and Korea.

Best Regards,

-Terry


Interesting tactic! Hard to pull off though. Especially if your opponent doesn´t have to pay PPs to move the Manchurian army into China to block you. Very good defensive terrain all the way!

You will have to take Rangoon (obviously) as well as Thailand. Supply won´t flow in enough numbers through the mountains. Not even sure the extra route though Thailand is enough. Not sure even this is enough though. When I went into China with 12k AV in 45 I couldn´t supply them properly until I was able to ship in supply from Luzon to Haiphong!

Just a word of caution regarding the supply.



Jocke-

Yes, a few war days ago the Allies began to move back into Burma. Approximately 1,000 AV with AA and armored units are heading to Akyab. Not sure exactly when I will make a full punch to take back all of Burma. However, it will definitely start no later than October 15, 1942.

Yes, Rangoon must be taken first. And, I have earmarked all transport aircraft in Australia and the U.S. to be bought out and shipped to India. I plan to fly lots of supply into China.

Still, as you point out, supplying the invading Allies in China is a huge problem.

I really don't want to invade Thailand or any part of Indochina. But, your point is well taken and it might be required to have any chance at supplying the Allies in China....at least until Operation Sea Shark hooks up with Hong Kong (a very long way off).

Best Regards,

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/29/2015 10:57:54 PM   
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El Lobo's Internet Is Down


As many of you may be aware, EL Lobo is an American ex-patriot living in Thailand with his lovely Thai wife.

I hadn't heard from him nor received a turn from him for a few days.

Last night, a friend of his phoned me to let me know that El Lobo's internet is down and that El Lobo wasn't sure when it would be back up.

So, for now, I'll use this time to try to learn more about the mechanics of the game and to think on strategy and tactics.

As soon as El Lobo sends me Turn 182, I will make the Allied move, return the turn to El Lobo, and wait for the combat report.

I hope each of you had a nice Christmas and hope more so that each of you stay safe over the New Year's Eve.

Best Regards,

-Terry

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/30/2015 10:41:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Terry asked in a PM if I would comment on his assessment of the enemy forces in China.

Unfortunately, while I have considerable experience and familiarity with the game structure and mechanics I have absolutely no experience playing a thinking opponent.

As most who are familiar with me know I do not have either the internet connection at home to facilitate or the time to commit to PBEM play and thus all of my experience is against the AI.

It is child's play to defeat the AI in China. In most games I have liberated 95% of China by the end of '42.

I'm currently playing a Focus Pacific scenario with the Soviets active from the start.

My game is in July '42 and the Soviets are barking at the door of a lightly defended Fusan with 29 enemy units piled up in the Port Arthur, the last Japanese bastion.

The Chinese are barking at the door to Shanghai while they and the Russians have surrounded Peking and invested Tientsin.

As you can see the 'play' in mainland Asia is far different against the AI and I really have nothing to contribute in the way of assessing enemy intentions there.

Sorry I can't be of more help Terry.



< Message edited by HansBolter -- 12/30/2015 11:42:42 AM >

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Terry asked in a PM if I would comment on his assessment of the enemy forces in China.

Unfortunately, while I have considerable experience and familiarity with the game structure and mechanics I have absolutely no experience playing a thinking opponent.

As most who are familiar with me know I do not have either the internet connection at home to facilitate or the time to commit to PBEM play and thus all of my experience is against the AI.

It is child's play to defeat the AI in China. In most games I have liberated 95% of China by the end of '42.

I'm currently playing a Focus Pacific scenario with the Soviets active from the start.

My game is in July '42 and the Soviets are barking at the door of a lightly defended Fusan with 29 enemy units piled up in the Port Arthur, the last Japanese bastion.

The Chinese are barking at the door to Shanghai while they and the Russians have surrounded Peking and invested Tientsin.

As you can see the 'play' in mainland Asia is far different against the AI and I really have nothing to contribute in the way of assessing enemy intentions there.

Sorry I can't be of more help Terry.




Hans-

Thank you for your response.

It sure seems like you are doing well in your AI game!

Hope you can get better internet so that I could watch your AAR!

Best Regards,

-Terry

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/30/2015 6:08:40 PM   
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Akyab

June 6, 1942


Opening Note

El Lobo's internet is up and he sent Turn 182.

Allies Move Into Burma

Commands: Eastern Army and ABDA Forces

Assault Value: 821

The following ground forces are moving toward Akyab or have arrived at Akyab:

Hex 56,42 (1 hex South of Chittagong)

14th British Brigade
2nd Indian Cst CD Art Regiment

Hex 55,43 (2 hexes South of Chittagong)

IV Indian Corps Headquarters
ABDA Headquarters
106th RAF Base Force
107th RAF Base Force
16th British Infantry Brigade
23rd British Infantry Brigade
26th Indian Infantry Brigade
Port Moresby Infantry Brigade
Gull Infantry Battalion
Lark Infantry Battalion
Sparrow Infantry Battlion
2/2nd Ind Infantry Company
NG Rifle Infantry B Company
8th Medium Art Regiment
95th Heavy AA Regiment

Hex 55,44 (1 hex North of Akyab)

B Squadron 3rd Hussars Armor Regiment

Akyab

45 Recoe Armor Regiment

End Note

I am sorely tempted to move III India Corps (899 AV with 4 AA, 1 Art, and ample Headquarters) from Calcutta to Rameree Island.

Best Regards,

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/30/2015 6:32:50 PM   
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June 6, 1942


Opening Note

The four British Carrier and Prince of Whales Surface Combat fleets have turned around and are heading back to Bombay to unload Carrier Aircraft.

Japanese at Trincomalee

The Japanese landing force indicates:

4,960 Troops
28 Guns
0 AFVs

The Allies at Trincomalee

99th Indian Brigade
Trincomalee Fort

Assault Value: 138
Port Level: 6
Air Level: 4
Fort Level 3 (74%)
Supply: 3,449

Japanese Ships

East of Ceylon:

7 ships sighted
4 BBs, 2 CLs, and 1 DD shown

South of Ceylon:

3 ships sighted
2 AMs shown

At Trincomalee:

6 ships sighted
1 PB and 1 xAP shown

Somewhere Close:

A four Carrier Task Force (exact location unknown)

End Note

Troop strength on Ceylon is very weak.

Best Regards,

-Terry




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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/30/2015 11:35:24 PM   
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Combat Report

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June 6, 1942


A busy day! A heavy price the Japanese are paying at Trincomalee!

Japanese Capture Bara:

Ground combat at Bara (74,107)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 765 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 6

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Bara !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
18th Naval Guard Unit

Japanese Shove Around Battered Chinese Near Kweiyang:

Ground combat at 76,50 (near Kweiyang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 44847 troops, 537 guns, 72 vehicles, Assault Value = 1474

Defending force 5369 troops, 67 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 73

Japanese adjusted assault: 1141

Allied adjusted defense: 52

Japanese assault odds: 21 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
183 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Allied ground losses:
3251 casualties reported
Squads: 130 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 114 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 56 (46 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Units retreated 5

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
3rd Division
40th Division
39th Division
55th Infantry Brigade
8th Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Mortar Battalion
28th Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd RF Gun Battalion
2nd JAAF AF Coy
1st JAAF AF Coy
5th RF Gun Battalion
RGC Army
67th JAAF AF Coy

Defending units:
74th Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
19th Group Army
29th Group Army
17th Chinese Base Force

Japanese Bombard Chinese Once Again Near Tienshui:

Ground combat at 81,39 (near Tienshui)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 61825 troops, 1161 guns, 583 vehicles, Assault Value = 1747

Defending force 25254 troops, 75 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 608

Allied ground losses:
241 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
7th Ind.Mixed Brigade
37th Division
10th Division
59th Infantry Brigade
1st Ind.Mixed Brigade
14th Division
1st Ind. Field Artillery Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
26th Field Artillery Regiment
12th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Field Artillery Regiment
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
4th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
7th RF Gun Battalion
1st Mortar Battalion
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
4th RF Gun Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd RF Gun Battalion
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
10th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
7th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
6th RF Gun Battalion
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
11th Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
13th Chinese Corps
77th Chinese Corps
71st Chinese Corps
129th Red Chinese Division
120th Red Chinese Division
36th Chinese Corps
79th Chinese Corps
14th Group Army
18th Group Army
6th War Area
115th Red Chinese Division

Japanese Shred Allied Aircraft Near Kweiyang:

Morning Air attack on 55th Infantry Brigade, at 76,50 , near Kweiyang

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 4

Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
H81-A3: 11 damaged
H81-A3: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x H81-A3 bombing from 100 feet
3 x H81-A3 bombing from 100 feet

CAP engaged:
66th I.F.Chutai with Ki-27b Nate (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead

Also attacking 3rd Division ...
Also attacking 40th Division ...
Also attacking 55th Infantry Brigade ...
Also attacking 40th Division ...

And Once Again

Morning Air attack on 55th Infantry Brigade, at 76,50 , near Kweiyang

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 2

Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
H81-A3: 3 damaged
H81-A3: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x H81-A3 bombing from 100 feet

CAP engaged:
66th I.F.Chutai with Ki-27b Nate (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 7000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 60 minutes

Trincomalee Coastal Guns Pulverize Japanese Transports!

Invasion Support action off Trincomalee (31,47)

66 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAP Kashima Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire
xAP Hakone Maru, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DMS W-1
DD Sanae

Japanese ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAP Kashima Maru at 8,000 yards
6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAP Hakone Maru at 8,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards

And Again

Invasion Support action off Trincomalee (31,47)

65 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAP Hakozaki Maru, Shell hits 9, on fire
xAP Kashima Maru, on fire
DMS W-1
DD Sanae

Japanese ground losses:
90 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAP Hakozaki Maru at 7,000 yards
6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAP Hakozaki Maru at 7,000 yards
6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAP Hakozaki Maru at 7,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards

And Once Again

Invasion Support action off Trincomalee (31,47)

47 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAP Kashima Maru, on fire
DMS W-1
DD Sanae

Japanese ground losses:
34 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards

And One Last Time

Invasion Support action off Trincomalee (31,47)

52 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAP Hakozaki Maru, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
DMS W-1
xAP Kashima Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Sanae

Japanese ground losses:
78 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAP Hakozaki Maru at 11,000 yards
6" Mk V/VII Gun Battery engaging xAP Hakozaki Maru at 11,000 yards
DMS W-1 fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards

Chinese Dig-In at Sining!

Ground combat at Sining (80,32)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5177 troops, 2 guns, 647 vehicles, Assault Value = 357

Defending force 9891 troops, 64 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 108

Japanese adjusted assault: 294

Allied adjusted defense: 169

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 14 (2 destroyed, 12 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1323 casualties reported
Squads: 73 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 50 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Guns lost 13 (2 destroyed, 11 disabled)

Assaulting units:
23rd Tank Regiment
12th Tank Regiment
8th Recon Regiment
5th Armored Car Co
10th Tank Regiment
11th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
27th Chinese Corps
82nd Chinese Corps
34th Separate Brigade
8th Chinese Base Force
19th Chinese Base Force
8th War Area
303rd Brigade
21st Chinese Base Force

Allies Bombard Japanese at Trincomalee!

Ground combat at Trincomalee (31,47)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7091 troops, 71 guns, 45 vehicles, Assault Value = 140

Defending force 6628 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 221

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
Trincomalee Fortress
99th Indian Brigade

Defending units:
4th Division
143rd Infantry Regiment

Best Regard,

-Terry

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"No one throws me my own guns and tells me to run. No one."

-Bret (James Coburn); The Magnificent Seven

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 12/30/2015 11:43:50 PM   
BBfanboy


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Status: offline 		You get lots of the HA81-A3 aircraft and later some old US fighters but you get very few Chinese pilots. Don't waste them by sending their fighters on bombing missions. You should be using them to try and CAP trap a few of the IJA bombers. It means shuttling your fighters around from base to base where there is a little supply but occasionally you will surprise him.

Re: the Trincomalee landings - the ship and troop losses shown in the report are not "a heavy price" for the numbers he has available. Mere pinprix (purposely misspelled to avoid the auto-censoring of common words!)

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