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ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen

I liked sneaking around in the grass, climb up to lookout towers, and snipe stuff. Operation Flashpoint feels like real damn war with teammates and all. I hope everyone here knows it or Armed Assault at least by name. If not, go look up those on YouTube.

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ORIGINAL: Trugrit

I’ve dusted off my copy of the original “Far Cry” and have been playing it for several days
While my WITPAE opponent has been away.

The AI enemy mercenaries are the best I’ve ever seen in a FPS.

With a real good computer and graphics card the jungle at max is a near religious experience.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/far-cry-10th-anniversary-retrospective/1100-6420000/

I recommend the FCAM mod:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/13520/discussions/0/617320628148392846/

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ORIGINAL: wings7

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ORIGINAL: Trugrit

I’ve dusted off my copy of the original “Far Cry” and have been playing it for several days
While my WITPAE opponent has been away.

The AI enemy mercenaries are the best I’ve ever seen in a FPS.

With a real good computer and graphics card the jungle at max is a near religious experience.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/far-cry-10th-anniversary-retrospective/1100-6420000/

I recommend the FCAM mod:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/13520/discussions/0/617320628148392846/

Far Cry and the CryEngine really put FPS on the gaming map! 16 years later this game is still a blast to play and the AI is quite good!

Patrick

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ORIGINAL: jamus34

I think the first FC is what got FPS gaming out of the rut back then. Unfortunately it lead to the downfall of one of my favorite genres (space shooters) Freespace 2 to this day is one of my top 5 games and #1 space shooter, even if the graphics are looking dated.

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ORIGINAL: invernomuto

The only FPS I tried recently are Arma3 and Red Orchestra 2 (+ Pacific Expansion). They're simulation of real war, with realistic ballistic and accurate wounds modelling (player has no "energy", usually is one shot one kill) and expecially for Red Orchestra 2, they're damned fun.

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ORIGINAL: chemkid


do ARMA and RO(2) count as FPS?! i mean S = Shooter?! ARMA is advertised as 'Infantry Simulator' and RO feels very much the same. IMHO, if these two count as FPS i'd like to say RO is great stuff but as far as video'games' go these are no 'games' anymore!

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ORIGINAL: chemkid

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ORIGINAL: invernomuto

The only FPS I tried recently are Arma3 and Red Orchestra 2 (+ Pacific Expansion). They're simulation of real war, with realistic ballistic and accurate wounds modelling (player has no "energy", usually is one shot one kill) and expecially for Red Orchestra 2, they're damned fun.

do ARMA and RO(2) count as FPS?! i mean S = Shooter?! ARMA is advertised as 'Infantry Simulator' and RO feels very much the same. IMHO, if these two count as FPS i'd like to say RO is great stuff but as far as video'games' go these are no 'games' anymore!

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ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen

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ORIGINAL: chemkid

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ORIGINAL: invernomuto

The only FPS I tried recently are Arma3 and Red Orchestra 2 (+ Pacific Expansion). They're simulation of real war, with realistic ballistic and accurate wounds modelling (player has no "energy", usually is one shot one kill) and expecially for Red Orchestra 2, they're damned fun.

do ARMA and RO(2) count as FPS?! i mean S = Shooter?! ARMA is advertised as 'Infantry Simulator' and RO feels very much the same. IMHO, if these two count as FPS i'd like to say RO is great stuff but as far as video'games' go these are no 'games' anymore!

Could same argument be said about WitP & sequels? What about flight sims like Microsoft Flight Simulator, Falcon 4, and IL-2 Sturmovik?

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ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen

This video raises a point about first person shooters that were and what they are now. I have to admit, he has a point. To sum it up: older FPS games were mazes with hidden secrets and locked doors; new games move on tracks. That apply for most of the (single player) FPS games, not for Operation Flashpoint, Armed Assault and Unreal Tournament.

I have played FPS games from each category. Doom, Duke Nukem 3D, and Shadow Warrior were fun games. And then came Call of Duty, Halo, and Doom 3. Difference is clear. Project IGI and Chrome are excellent games on their own rights: I liked sneaking around in the grass, climb up to lookout towers, and snipe stuff. Operation Flashpoint feels like real damn war with teammates and all. I hope everyone here knows it or Armed Assault at least by name. If not, go look up those on YouTube.

But what about games like Call of Duty, Medal of Honor, Halo, and Doom 3? In first 2 Dooms there wasn't clear direction where to go. Player had to wander around and hit the fire button until he came across locked door, then had to go back to look for key cards. Doom 2 even has vast open spaces, part of a town with streets and buildings and the likes. Comes Doom 3, and it is mostly just corridors and small rooms. And there aren't many different ways to go. Enemies are tougher, point for that (I think). Same applies to Halo franchise, though corridors on it are wide and rooms are large. Both enough so to drive with a tank around them. Fun on its own right when done right. Newest Doom under work seems to be part on this, and I hope they get it right. Call of Duty (the first anyway) didn't get it right for me, but marketing department managed to make it sell.

What are your opinions about the matter?

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ORIGINAL: aaatoysandmore

I haven't found a single FPS I liked then or now.

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ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus


I guess saying we like FPS might be an anathema on these forums

The evolution of this genre is clear: from mazes to an "open", utter realistic world.

I played Wolfenstein, Doom and Doom 2 in the 90s. I loved them, especially Doom 2. Then in the 2000s a big surprise: the first Stalker! No mazes anymore, a "real", oneiric world with amazing graphics, sounds and atmosphere. And of course the hilarious Left 4 Dead

Now I plan to get me a proper gaming computer. I never paid attention to video cards, always had low or standard quality and you need High quality to play the most demanding FPS

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ORIGINAL: wings7

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ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus


I guess saying we like FPS might be an anathema on these forums

The evolution of this genre is clear: from mazes to an "open", utter realistic world.

I played Wolfenstein, Doom and Doom 2 in the 90s. I loved them, especially Doom 2. Then in the 2000s a big surprise: the first Stalker! No mazes anymore, a "real", oneiric world with amazing graphics, sounds and atmosphere. And of course the hilarious Left 4 Dead

Now I plan to get me a proper gaming computer. I never paid attention to video cards, always had low or standard quality and you need High quality to play the most demanding FPS

I think there are many closet FPS gamers here...it's time to come out of the closet! You can be a Strategy/Wargamer and a FPS gamer also! (I like alot of different game genre's, the key is quality and play ability for me) I too am purchasing more of a proper gaming computer in the near future!

Patrick

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ORIGINAL: H Gilmer

I still like the WW2 ones the best.

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ORIGINAL: VPaulus

@bairdlander
That's off-topic. Please don't troll.

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ORIGINAL: aaatoysandmore

I haven't found a single FPS I liked then or now. The closest game I can stomach is Mount and Blade Warband and that isn't a shooter though it plays like one.

Are there any of them where "friendly fire" doesn't hurt you? That's a big reason I don't play them. especially online. Little kids think it's funny to go around shooting their own teammates. Maybe older people also with kids minds.

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ORIGINAL: **budd**

Some of my favorites from days gone past are Halflife, F.E.A.R., Farcry, Call of Juarez, Serious Sam and of course all the really oldies i.e Doom, Quake, Wolfenstein, Duke Nukem, Heretic, Blood, Decent, probably a lot more i'm forgetting.

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ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

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ORIGINAL: H Gilmer

I still like the WW2 ones the best.

I only have played one multiplayer game: Wolfenstein Enemy Territory. WW2. I can't tell you how much much I liked it. Charging like a crazy buffalo with the flamethrower. So many big big big laughs!

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ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

The evolution of this genre is clear: from mazes to an "open", utter realistic world.

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ORIGINAL: **budd**

I've been an FPS'er since way back. Came from 3rd person adventure games, you know the quest series. Once i loaded up that wolfenstein shareware disk from what ever that magazine was i was hooked. Played every FPS i could get my hands on back then, it just seemed awesome. Played FPS before i even knew about computer wargames. Did a bit of multiplayer FPS back in the day with clans with Quake, TFC and DOD, wasn't easy on dialup. Don't do much of the multiplayer FPS these days for various reasons, the knuckleheadedness of online players is one and the time commitment is another. You have to spend a bit of time with a game to get up to snuff. It can be a rewarding game experience with a bunch of like minded players. I have a new computer so i can catch up on some FPS goodness i missed, there's quite a few in my steam backlog i've been waiting to play, Rage, stalker series, newer Farcry's. I put the open world FPS's in a different category, there just a different mood for me. Nothing like a well done FPS on rails with a good environment and a bit of tactical choice in your approach, plus they actually end. I'm not talking DOOM 3 on rails type, i still haven't finished that one. Some of my favorites from days gone past are Halflife, F.E.A.R., Farcry, Call of Juarez, Serious Sam and of course all the really oldies i.e Doom, Quake, Wolfenstein, Duke Nukem, Heretic, Blood, Decent, probably a lot more i'm forgetting. One thing that didn't bother me back then but drives me to rage quit some FPS now is the old lock you in a room with a bunch of bad guys/things and you ain't getting out until everything is dead, O did i forget to mention you'll be low health and not have much ammo. the control the difficulty through keeping you low on health and without ammo is something i'm not a big fan of these days, not too mention a checkpoint system.I'll usually have one FPS going as a change of pace to my wargaming, currently playing Extraction point a DLC to the original F.E.A.R. Nothing closet about my enjoyment of FPS games, I'll play whatever is fun for me.