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RE: t45 end of turn south - 1/16/2016 3:06:05 PM   
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I tried one bombing raid on Polesti. My guys did not even want to fly.

What is the best Russian bomber for these long raids?


Probably IL-4



if you have any, the B-25s carry a better bombload as does the Pe-8 .. but the Pe-8s are real truck and supply hogs

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RE: t 41 Rumanian attack down south - 1/16/2016 4:13:00 PM   
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Clap v Malinosky.

Really



Well, your basic odds were less than 1:2 so if anything it's surprising the 2nd attack succeeded unless you did a much bigger attack


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t 46 Rumanian cav shattered - 1/18/2016 4:10:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have found that many units in supply are now shattering in lei of retreat.

Since the last beta. The beta started around these turns.




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t 47 Russian air defense - 1/18/2016 4:35:16 PM   
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t 47 Russian air interdiction - 1/18/2016 4:36:30 PM   
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t 48 german air - 1/18/2016 4:45:21 PM   
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t 48 german ground kia - 1/18/2016 4:46:55 PM   
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t 48 another shattered unit - 1/18/2016 4:48:31 PM   
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Pelton finally took the hex




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Turn 48 - 1/18/2016 4:56:00 PM   
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Turn 48 russian counterattack - 1/18/2016 4:59:08 PM   
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Turn 48 russian counterattack - 1/18/2016 5:02:30 PM   
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Kempf v. Ermenko




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Turn 48 russian counterattack - 1/18/2016 5:04:04 PM   
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750 tanks

Schmidt v. Roskonkowsky

Trying to rescue trapped units and hurt his tanks




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Turn 48 russian counterattack - 1/18/2016 5:06:04 PM   
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110 tanks

Vetinghuff v Bobkin

Not sure if the trapped units were saved. A little anticlimactic.




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Turn 48 russian counterattack - 1/18/2016 5:08:06 PM   
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Turn 49 German offensive continues - 1/18/2016 5:11:03 PM   
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Turn 49 German offensive continues - 1/18/2016 5:12:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here my flank troops end up being cut off with Germany committing all his armor. I think.

Thus the air supply bomber casualties explained




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RE: Turn 49 German offensive continues - 1/18/2016 6:25:54 PM   
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Turn 49 situation - 1/18/2016 7:35:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		At least I now know where his tanks are, thus other sectors can continue attacking.

Also, this is the strongest Russian army I have ever had and at points I can counterattack with good localized power.

German army has not had it easy here.

What shall I do now was the question.

and ......

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49 save troops - 1/18/2016 7:36:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		I attacked with good Cav and open up a supply route near south part of the pocket.

His tanks now have long MP.




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t49 Rommell Think - 1/18/2016 7:41:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Then I study the situation.

I start attacking the area about 6,7 hexes east of Kursk and low and behold we find......

And open avenue to go deep behind lines, attack airbases and maybe....

This was a key battle to opening the large hole.

His Hq was OKH. What's up with that. Kluge is no good in the field.




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t49 Rommell Think part 2 - 1/18/2016 7:44:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Now I start thinking: can I cut off his tank force with a deep running tank corp.

Can I attack north out of the pocket and seal the pocket or south with a tank which would be a hasty attack.

Who would get sacrificed for the motherland. You can see two tank corp with 50 mp waiting to move.

I decide to go......




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RE: t49 Rommell Think part 2 - 1/18/2016 8:44:34 PM   
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RE: t49 Rommell Think part 2 - 1/18/2016 10:52:28 PM   
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Now I start thinking: can I cut off his tank force with a deep running tank corp.

Can I attack north out of the pocket and seal the pocket or south with a tank which would be a hasty attack.

Who would get sacrificed for the motherland. You can see two tank corp with 50 mp waiting to move.

I decide to go......

...


good move, I agree that its sometimes worth chucking away an early Tank Corps for the disruption and chaos they can cause behind the lines, I think some German players forget how easy it is to get them to 50MP and its that mobility that is the real benefit not their weak combat value

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RE: t49 Rommell Think part 2 - 1/18/2016 11:20:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Looks like HQs and airbases on the menu.

One of the ways the real 2nd Battle of Kharkov could have went.

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RE: t45 end of turn south - 1/19/2016 1:16:00 AM   
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What you wouldn't give for a fueled up 86+ morale mobile division in that situation. A quick drive around Kursk and half the Luftwaffe would become scrap metal :)
You need balls of steel and talent to play like this and get away with it. Good luck.

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RE: t45 end of turn south - 1/19/2016 8:39:04 AM   
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RE: t45 end of turn south - 1/20/2016 1:05:03 PM   
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I will try to be more careful.................

I reckon there is a good chance of isolating Pelton's armour in turn as well as having a bit of a rampage in his nether regions

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RE: t45 end of turn south - 1/21/2016 10:31:37 PM   
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Why am I not enjoying seeing this I will try to be more careful.................


You must be seeing a mirage as our game is certainly not going to end up like this match.

So silly!

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t49 The battle - 1/21/2016 10:33:46 PM   
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t49 The battle result - 1/21/2016 10:37:03 PM   
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Keubler v Galinin






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