Mehring
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Well all the other Germans I have faced quit or surrendered in 1941/1942 if that says anything about the game balance...a bad 1941 is game over for the German player period right now. I dont agree with everything Pelton says as im sure you can see if you read our different AARs on the game. He does have some valid points tho.
If as the German player you cant capture any real industry and cant capture Leningrad, be at the gates of moscow, capture Tula, stalino, Kharkov.....its pretty much game over in 1941. Even if you achieve all of the above which Pelton did in our game you still are most likely going to lose unless the Soviet player really messes up 1942......
The last two patches balance wise seem to have basically made playing Soviets easy mode and playing Germans extreme hard mode for most players IMO. Cause even decent German play will still get you defeated before 1945 in most cases.
I'm sure Pelton has plenty of valid points but that doesn't absolve other people from the need to sift these from the copious twaddle that accompanies them. I have only played two games as Axis in the last couple of years. I won one, which ran to spring 1943 and I'm, dare I say it, winning the second, now in summer 1943. In both I face massive Soviet OoBs but in the current one particularly, also a proportionately even more inflated Axis OoB. Though I'd like to, I do not attribute this entirely to my own superlative play. As Pelton will agree, but AFAIK only when talking about the Russians, losses are too low. They are too low for the Germans particularly, very much so, that in spite of the high attack losses they suffer after 1941.
I don't agree about the Russian having to mess up anything. The Germans have a CV mobility and concentration which do not figure in Pelton's rather primitive mathematical justifications for self-pity. There is always a weak spot in the Russian line. The ART for the Axis player is to create or find it, then exploit it. War is ART not lowly common sense maths.
< Message edited by Mehring -- 2/21/2016 8:44:24 PM >
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RE: Public Beta v1.08.08 now available - 
I think it's now mostly about personal definition of balance... which means capturing Moscow and Leningrad in 1941 for German players. If they would be patient enough and prepared to endure the entire war during which Germans were on recieving end longer than the other way round, there would be less drama on the forum. There are important fixes to replacement system coming in next patch that will allow Germans to maintain higher CV throughout the war. We'll see how it works. We can always return to earlier morale tables, because I'm not in the camp that thinks the cadre (pre war) Red Army was better than what came after it, and it was testers including Pelton that voted in favour of returning to the at start 50 NM for the Soviets. I would gladly see it go away.
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