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ORIGINAL: Cohen
Complete conquest of France and then going east is not very smooth in my eyes - simply because it leaves Marocco, Algeria and Tunisia as places where the UK can go and use them as bases of operations in the Med.
Also the Italian push to close Suez is pretty moot the moment the W.Allies have Gibraltar to operate from as well.
The moment you go Greece and the Med is not closed you pratically give 10 CPs to UK - assuming they slip through the Italian Navy in the Med.
Even if Italy gets to Iraq and Persia - unless you are certain (and one can never be) that you'll link up from above with the Germans at Caucasus - you'll see the RN presence growing up over time in the Med (If UK chooses for a mediterranean policy as historically they did).
At this point the only "pro" you have of the complete conquest of France is that you have immediately +1 Factory and +1 Resource.
With Vichy you have added resources that can be shipped in France if Vichy has the convoys for (Algeria one and Senegal one) that, with the one in France, pairs well up with the total of 3 factories Vichy has (Marseille, Lyon, Vichy). Vichy will stock up BPs for Germany later on - and you get 1 oil from Iraq as well.
Japan - with Vichy on - can ask for French Indochina and even Madagascar. (At the expensive cost of US chits!)
Long in short - if you have no plans for Spain at all - Vichy seems better than a conquest of France.
OK, Vichy it is.
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ORIGINAL: Cohen
Which I am susprised about as you seem to have even built the Italian Marine (invasion of Gibraltar?) - but it is acting as regular INF in Lybia?
With the Italian DIV in Cyprus it would have been a nice threat to land anywhere behind the Brits (5 factors + 5 shore bombing = +21 against a 1 Strong notional!)
A landing at the Port Said hex would have closed the channel for both sides, ZoC'ed Suez port and all the brits suddenly OOS?
I could only get the marine to the 1 box in the East Med. However, I do have plans to put a transport in Tripoli so I can get the marine in the 3 box and, as you suggested, use the divsion in Cyprus for a flanking invasion of Egypt. I'll see if I can pull that off.
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ORIGINAL: Centuur
Agreed. The Italian builds support a "close the Med" policy before going into the USSR. It's a pity the MAR wasn't put into Cyprus. It's a great base for striking at Egypt.
Since the summer turn still hasn't ended, Germany should attack the cities of Vichy and Rouen this impulse and start racing two fast units south towards Toulouse and Marseilles. If there is another impulse, Lyon gets captured. All because there is now one French unit in Lyons.
I would go for Spain and Gibraltar next. Only if the turn ends and the French gets two units which they can put into Toulouse and maybe a third which should go into Lyons, Germany should probably go for Vichy instead.
Also, I don't like the evacuation of the BEF out of France. You could have decided to keep those units in France instead and evacuate them next turn. However, a good trick now would be to move those units in the naval RTB phase to the ports of Bordeaux and Bayonne (they are still at sea, I presume and can reach those ports? The BEF than becomes the first frontline for Germany to pass, if it wants to go to Gib. Churchill doesn't know Axis war plans and should act this way. It's also a good defensive position in Western Europe if Germany creates Vichy. And if he doesn't, than the French will still fight for their last "fortress", Toulouse.
Delays are everything for the Wallies, and if you can force Germany to keep valuable forces in France a couple of turns of longer, because there are some bloody Brits still on the continent, that's good. The defense of Moscow starts in France...
The BEF is still in the North Sea. Because of FTC limits I could only deploy Gort and his transport to Bordeaux or Bayonne during the RTB? Then next turn move another corps and division there. Is that what you think I should do?
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ORIGINAL: CentuurThe Balkans are a bad place to fight in, even with the superior Wehrmacht. Greece has a merchant navy which one should not give to the CW, except when the Med is closed and those ships can't get out of there. Otherwise, kill of Yugoslavia and let the Greeks stay neutral.
No Greece then. I will declare Vichy and then try to set up a flanking invasion of the British forces in Egypt.
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